1zpresso ZP6 versus Kingrinder K6 (flavor battle)

[@icedchief]

One of the most underrated channels on yt

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@icedchief thank you so much! I hope we get more viewers in the future :)

[@mrricardo5595]

Keep it up! I have been enjoying the content. Kudos for the balance between accuracy in data gathering + subjectivity.

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@mrricardo5595 thank you! I appreciate that :)

[@NaufalA-w6g]

please do another with the timemore s3, still couldnt find more videos around it actually really enjoyed your calm videos and mostly your joyful personality but still bring depth in the reviews keep it up!

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@NaufalA-w6g aww, thanks man! Hehe

[@pororoproro]

Why don't you do a blind test? I enjoy watching your videos and thank you ❤

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@pororoproro wow thank you so much! I dont really see the point in doing a blind test with comparison videos - i want to be able to point out exactly the differences in both of the coffees :)

[@enfox]

Link to this grind size equivalency chart pls....

[@ericbaluya361]

Nothing better than a Suiren than a two Suiren 😅😅😅

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@ericbaluya361 hahaha! Thanks to one of my supporters here in the Ph - Kape Kalakal :)

[@ehi.matteo]

Please make a video about Timemore S3! Maybe vs Kingrinder K6.

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@ehi.matteo unfortunately i dont have an s3 :(

[@MadScientist7]

curious on this conversion chart you used in this video and where I can find it?

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@MadScientist7 im preparing my patreon so it'll be easier for people to download :)

[@halosemua2548]

Coversion chart link where? Thankyou

[@vs4544]

Look up Honest coffee guide grinds chart

[@alxgag3]

@@vs4544 As a K6 owner I dont think that chart is accurate. For example if you check with users that has used K6 for a while actually two turns (120clicks) is really nice for V60, sometimes going a bit courser can do miracles

[@EspressoHackers]

​@@vs4544​ that table is not accurate at all. If you see the table for K4 vs K6, it's exactly the same. ​I have both and I can tell you that you don't grind in the same click for any method. And this error is because that table is solely based on the change in microns per click and both K4 and K6 change 16 microns per click. What I wanted to know is the total brew time for both ZP6 and K6 in this test. I think a good way to compare is adjusting to the same brew time, and a second test, trying to get the same taste profile or as close as possible. The reason for the first test is getting a less biased comparison, and the second because the difference will be in particles distribution and in practical terms with any grinder will adjust to our taste, and then my doubt for any grinder is how close they can get to each flavor profile. If both meet the expectations, there's no much advantage to one or the other. You can also do a 3rd test: what's the best coffee you can get from each and compare. The problem in the 3rd is that each grinder will be better for one coffee than the other, however, you provide the answer to what's is the most I can get from each. And of course you can progress to a 4th test: what's the best for 3 profiles of coffee, e.g. a more caramel style, a fruity, and a floral, for example.

[@_ssarine]

I own a izpresso j-max but am considering another grinder strictly for filter. My main question is if you think buying another grinder, such as the kingrinder k6 is redundant or a step backwards to the j-max.

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@_ssarine well the zp6 is not a step backwards from the j series. In fact the j series may not be able to do what the zp6 can.

[@_ssarine]

@@darylbuenocoffee thanks, but what about the kingrinder k6?

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@_ssarine i can't really say if the k6 is a stepdown from jmax since i havent really explored a jmax before but knowing that it is an omni grinder too it might be a stepdown yes. I see 1zpresso brand as a more superior brand than kingrinder so if you have the top of thr line grinder from j series then it should be inferior to the k6 at all.

[@luiznascimento9873]

Construction wise, 1zpresso is more Premium, but K6 is a solid grinder. I would say that K6 between zp6 and J series , in terms of taste. You can make espresso with zp6 that is a Plus, but I you can go for K séries if you want something more Premium.

[@_ssarine]

@@luiznascimento9873 I agree that the quality and build of 1zpresso is high. I use my jmax for espresso, but want a more dedicated filter grinder. I’ve heard wonderful things about the K6, and at that price point it is tempting. I would like a comendante, but I don’t like bottom adjusters. I didn’t realize they were still selling the zp6. It is more than I had wanted to spend and I’ve heard it has high clarity, which I’m not sure that is what I am looking for.

[@moussaalonazi3289]

I want to know the site that compares the grind size. I have the same grinders ZP6 and K6. At the ZP6 point, you must go up to ratio 17. It is nice with light roasting. Thank you 🥰

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@moussaalonazi3289 i make my own charts because im not really happy with the conversions available online.

[@surrealchemist]

Wouldn’t it be nice if all grinders just used the same numbering system

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@surrealchemist i know right? But of course its their design so.....

[@alfaifyblog]

Thank you very much for this video. I had been waiting for it for a long time. Keep up the great work. You always have fantastic video ideas about coffee and comparisons. But I have a question about your comparison chart: How do you make it, and what tool do you use for comparing grinders and making this kind of chart? Thanks alot

[@darylbuenocoffee]

Wow! thank you so much! I appreciate that. Anyway for the charts i use the Gagne Tool, DiFluid particle analyzer together with the kruve Sifter and Brewler.

[@milanjurich1526]

How long did it take both coffees to drain? Seemed like it took longer for the K6 to drain. By the way … ZP6 Special owner here.

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@milanjurich1526 i cant really remember how long but my normal brews usually are around 3:20, the k6 didn't really take that much longer to drain. Its just that my first pour was on the zp6 thats why it drained out first.

[@alxgag3]

Can you please share the conversion chart? I tried the "send message on instagram" but that didnt work

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@alxgag3 yes if its you who messaged me just recently - the ios update messed up my phone and i cant access folders on my camera roll. Will message you soon through my computer

[@JuliusSP1]

Is the coffee washed? What are proposed tasting notes?

[@MyNameJim]

What is best grinder

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@MyNameJim there is no "best" grinder because all of the grinders have their fair share of strengths and weaknesses.

[@MyNameJim]

@@darylbuenocoffee is more expensive better in general?

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@MyNameJim of course this applies to all products not only in coffee. As they say "you get what you pay for" but it actually works in reverse. Since the cheaper ones are actually worse in some aspects there are certain ways to improve their quality specially in hand grinders. For example i have a series called slowfeed test and in that series i actually put grinders in a specific way of grinding to try and avoid certain aspects of the particle size distribution. May it be fines or boulders. I have 5 grinders now in that collection and im working on doing more as time goes by.

[@huihe953]

What's that green press you used to keep down the filter paper at 2:58? I've been looking for something like that for my Suiren as the v60 02 keeps sagging in an asymmetric fashion

[@azzarooni8532]

Don't need to buy a tool for everything in life. Look around your house for a little object that can do the same thing

[@darylbuenocoffee]

@@huihe953 its a negotiator from TWTOPSE for coonical drippers :)

[@huihe953]

@@azzarooni8532 What do you use? I've had my suiren for 6 months and don't have a solution. If you use a cheap and common household item, please share!

[@mistormusic]

@@huihe953 It's called a negotiator and are common for flat bed drippers mostly. I don't have the suiren but for my v60 filter, to get evenly placed on the sides of the dripper, I run it under the hot water tap. The pressure from the tap will make it stick to the walls. Maybe works with suiren. Give it a try!

[@Liberta_BR]

muy bueno, mr bueno!

[@darylbuenocoffee]

thank you!