2 สนทนาเรื่องชีวิตกับพระอาจารย์ชยสาโร ณ ฟีโนมีนา ตอนที่ 2

[@Borwornporn]

กราบนมัสการ พระคุณเจ้า ขอ อนุโมทนาบุญ ด้วย เจ้าค่ะ

[@Borwornporn]

พระสงฆ์สาวกของพระผู้มีพระภาคเจ้า ปฏิบัติดีแล้ว ข้าพเจ้านอบน้อมพระสงฆ์

[@minttobemean1290]

สาธุคับ. ชอบพระอาจารย์เทศมาก เข้าใจง่าย เข้าถึงได้คับอนุโมทนากับทีมงานด้วยน่ะคับ สาธุ สาธุ สาธุ

[@pmboonnimitra2883]

ท่านเข้าถึงธรรมโดยแท้ สาธุ สาธุ สาธุ

[@engserfchiangmai803]

Much thanks to Ajarn for your complete explanation for why we should eat " vegetarians:"! I have also been wondering why not many of our Buddhist teachers talk to lay followers about being kind to animals including homeless dogs and cats. Are we missing out on something very important in the way we expound the Buddha's teachings?

[@Borwornporn]

อันกบอยู่ใต้บัวบาน มัวแต่งุ่มง่ามไต่คลาน ตามโคลนตม ดมดินดาน มิเคยพบพานกลิ่นจงกล แมลงภู่อยู่ไพรไกลตา ยังอุตส่ามาเวียนวน เชยชมเกสรเสาวคนธ์ เคลียเคล้าจงกลร่าเริงรมย์ / กบใต้กอบัว / ขุนวิจิตรมาตรา

[@ปาณิสราโสภณ]

ค่ะ ใช่ค่ะมันคิดหลายสิ่งอย่าง เคลียด วิตกกังวล การนอนน้อย และโรคประจำตัวบางสิ่งบางอย่าง

[@demonzaaa]

ซาบซึ้ง : )

[@vendettaanarchist]

ข้างๆนั่นแฟนพี่ต่อเหรอ

[@joewoodistiller]

Attainment of sotapana and free from being born in 4 woeful existence. How one experience it? Entering magga phalla(disconnections of samsara existence) and emerge from magga phalla. The moment when it occure: My personnel experience while in vipasanna sitting meditation this occur and I will share to those who may find interesting. Vipasanna meditation on the moment of magga phalla and then return to samsara existence again on how it occur during that moment. From Samsara to magga phalla to samsara. 16 Vipasanna nanas or 16 mindfullness knowledge aroused while contemplating the breath explaination made simple. Nibanna is like walking up 16 stairs step to reach the top floor. One will start from the first stairs. Lifting the right foot stepping on the first stairs letting go of the left foot from the ground to let it step on the second staircase. Upon the second foot secure stepping on the second staircase one has to LET GO of the first staircase to use the right foot to step on the 3rd staircase until one reach the 16th stairs. Similar like from first samadhi to second samadhi to third samadhi to upeka. Similarly the practice of vipasanna apply the same way as like walking up the stairs till step 16th(16 vipasanna nanas) Upon reaching the top floor one can now take good rest in his room. One will have to return to the ground floor, the first step to begin now will be the last stair which is the 16th stairs. The way to decent is from the 16 to 15 to 14 stairs and so on. Similarly when one attaiment of magga(fruition) it is like one already on the highest step. After magga(path simile of the 16th stairs) it will reach phala(fruition simile as reaching the top floor) one is an enlighten being. Usual occurance after magga phalla, one will have to return to presant samsara conditions and that means like walking down the stair case start from the 16 steps to lower stairs. Similarly one who practice vipasanna and reach the highest path will need to return from the path back to this samsara existence. In this case he has to return from the magga phalla to continue to live in samsara until his balance karma energy are exhausted. So to say, one can realize very clearly these steps to magga phalla where the mind shuts down and he know when he is stepping down (start from the 16th) to return to mundane existence is similar to the simile of the 16 staircase walking up and walking down again. So one can know in this way one is a sotopana after nirodha(Ceesation of conciousness or concious shuts down) reaching magga phalla(mind now completely shuts down while in vipasanna sitting meditation) and nibanna(magga phalla is not a state of mind. It is out of human conciousness nothing in relation to mind and body and the buddha explain it in this way that nibanna simply is unborn, deathless and uncondition) No sufferring exist in NIBANNA. CONCLUSION: The 16 stairs we refer to the 16 vipasanna nanas: And after attainment when the mind shuts down you enter into nibanna(you will not know as you are momentarily already cut off your existence from Samsara) Now you are in nibanna(as conciousness already vanished at magga you do not know as already no existence conciousness) When after nibanna, you return to reawaken in this dream of existence in samsara and in the state of vipasanna samadhi, and here at this moment you still do not know you have return from nibanna to samsara dreams of existence as you are dwelling in strong state of samadhi where your mind now is filled with whole body pleasurable vibrating sensations and you are fully adsorption into it. This whole body pleasure sensation will gradually subside and you will now be in lower samadhi where your mind is bright(still in the mind state of samadhi) mind is free and relaxing no problems with regards to keep focusing on the breath as now what so ever on breath to watch rising falling all seem automatic.(in samadhi or in jhanna absobtion filled with whole body pleasurable sensations) At this moment the mind is free bright and peaceful just like driving with(in samadhi) Then suddenly there is occurance of recollection when one start to remember. One begin to remember there was a break in his sitting vipasanna meditation where the mind are suddenly shuts down. Here is very important and the most difficult to explain because this is the moment of the last truth of the 4 noble truth one has reach and now realised its taste. My attempt to explain it will be like telling a story that ends with possibily nobody will understand it. But that is the real story of the moment of reaching magga and phalla. When the moment the mind enter path or magga is 14th vipasanna nana and phalla 15 vipasanna nana it shuts down. No more existing in samsara existence so no more mind and thinking are stop. No thinking thus there no more mind. After that occurance is over, one will return from the top stair to walk down again from my simplified explaination on how one will see at that moment. He saw before and after and he remember it now as in his mind everythings is very clear. He now realise he has reach enlightment or he has attain to magga phala and the mind is now peaceful, happy and bright. The happiness feeling of that attainment can last numerous days.And all dhamma now aroused in one who is Ariya. He is now a SOTOPANNA. May this sharing be the road map for everyone and as the ariya of the past phrase it in this way they say 'WORTH IT' Wish everyone will strive one digently. Vipasanna the sure way leading to nibanna. The BUDDHA say this is the only way and no other way. And he say 'AHEPASIKO' Come friends and experience it yourself and you will know like I have known. And the last advise of LORD BUDDHA..... APAMADE SAMPADETA meaning Behold, O monks, this is my last advice to you. All component things in the world are changeable. They are not lasting. Work hard to gain your own salvation." Apamadesampadeta. BUDDHAM SARANAM GACCHAMI.