2 Stroke vs 4 Stroke 2019 Yamaha YZ250X and YZ250FX - Dirt Bike Magazine

The great debate. 2 Stroke vs 4 Stroke. Which is better in the offroad category? We were able to get our hands on both 2019 Yamaha 250s and put them head to head to figure out which one was king of offroad, especially in the GNCC style conditions of South Carolina. See what editor Ron Lawson has to say about each bike and where they stand when put up against each other on the same style terrain.
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[@127834]

I'm nearly 48 and the sound of the two stroke still makes me feel like a little kid with excitement 😃

[@SL4US]

Your still young my guy

[@thezoms9961]

Right its funny you mention that. My neighbors always said, "Aj don't start that shxt!🙅", when I bring out the four stroke. The moment I ride the two stroke which rips harder and louder in my opinion they,"😲😌🙌😏😚" as if I'm not even riding so I takes advantage and bang the power band especially 1st to 3rd still no yelling or"" Aj don't start that such!

[@psychoslingers8732]

41 and same here. I’ve never liked the sound of 4-strokes.

[@dctruckguy]

56 here. The smell of klotz is the best

[@virgillivingston8079]

I’m 40 and same damn thing. I just love the sound, smell and deliver. Reminds me of the old CR80. Even with myself and my fat ass friend we would haul ass on that little bike. It would run its ass off

[@03SilverMustangGT]

"The debate between 2 strokes and 4 strokes will go on" I'm so happy to hear that. We live in a time where we can enjoy both. They're both great bikes. I'd take the 2 stroke though.

[@frankcrawford416]

I am afraid if we keep comparing with the heavy bias to 4 strokes Yamaha may stop making the yz250 2 stroke. The 2 stroke can stand on its own.

[@kugangles9860]

@@frankcrawford416 Yeah good on Yamaha for having the balls to be the only Japanese company to still make 2 strokes.

[@eastbaymauiboy]

Hell yeah, I'd love the s*** out of both those bikes!. If I feel like less drama for the day, it's gonna be the four-stroke. If I'm fired up and feel like rippin hard, it's 2-stroke day!. Gimme Gimme Yammy!!

[@roosterr66]

2 strokes are banned in India and thats why I decided to immigrate to Canada. To get back on the 2 stroke again

[@No_Budget_No_Problem]

Exactly, we just live in a time where we can for the most part pick a favorite and go

[@mrczz6690]

4t predictable and boring. I’ve had both and will never go back, 2 stroke all the way. The throttle response, beautiful sound, and keeps you feeling alive - plain and simple......more fun to ride

[@markthomas7430]

"keeps you feeling alive" Couldn't agree more.

[@swagittarius1717]

Thanks im seeing which to buy

[@messiona]

“4t” is an oxymoron lmao

[@rafenatho5406]

Your biased toward 2 strokes because your old like me!! Grew up on them😁

[@derrickbruce1697]

I dont care how many times you rate or compare 2strokes to 4stroke I prefer a 2stroke any day

[@F4izzle]

Derrick Bruce cheers bud!

[@KEVIN-sd8fu]

Ridden both plenty of times. Always a bigger grin after the smoker. Now I own two of them.

[@spymaine89]

you have learned how to ''ride'' ''grasshopper'' teach us

[@whalesong999]

It would depend on the kind of riding your doing. For day in and day out on the street, it would be hard to beat an old 250cc BMW I once had with it's 16 horsepower. Later years, I had a wonderful Suzuki TS 250R that I commuted with back and forth to my job as a mechanic and service manager at a Kawasaki/Suzuki shop in N.Y. It was as stone reliable as the old Beemer but had the attendant problems of a simpler machine and, even with the great experimental oils supplied by Union Carbide for several years, the emissions and smoking were going to work against it. Motorcycling has had exciting years with technical advancements but really, when the satisfaction quotient depends on constant quests for horsepower, the sport and industry are going into the territory of diminishing returns and I see it happening now. They are falling over their own "progress" and they have lost their way.

[@spymaine89]

@@whalesong999 amen brother, marketing to egos has always been with us ,but it is much worse, maybe to much exposure to other egos. they forget the bike.

[@thatextrachromosometho7345]

Even during the early days of the supposedly "superior" 4-stroke craze I stayed true to my 2-stroke...gimme the YZ250X all day long!

[@Joelontugs]

Call me sensitive but it warms my heart yamaha stuck with the 2 stroke during that transition period where 2 strokes where phased out by others most forgot abt them but once they where almost all gone the guys who came up on 85s and 125s as i did went we miss 2strokes an yamaha has the market almost cornered which seems to be something most love

[@jamesleeson6680]

Yamaha started this 4 stroke Moto thing. I remember when 4 strokes didn't belong in Moto, then Doug Henry almost won on the YZ400. I thought would only be a phase but next thing I know, people bitch about not having electric start and men go into women's bathrooms.

[@dean8067]

If I'm not mistaken i saw something about them discontinuing their 2 stroke models for 2020 though

[@rovidbouski4022]

James, there are plenty of videos showing electric start failures and with no kickstart backup you are fucked

[@firefoxx8093]

I've got a 2018 KTM 300xc-w and that things absolutely RIPS lol. Love that bike...so light weight and powerful!

[@NEWiViAN]

Smoker for me!

[@gamingargamingar708]

One thing you will never get from a video. The truly amazing smell sound and feel of a two stroke aspecialy when the bike trys to throw you off the back like a bull! They are also about 1000 times more fun to work on and thats almost 1 half the fun.

[@gamingargamingar708]

Ane things for sure, weather its a four stroke or a two stroke Yamaha it always the best

[@mdd1963]

You don't know acceleration until you've ridden on built YZ400/490 bikes from yesteryear! Shift strategy? SHift as fast as you can, and it's likely still not fast enough...! Zero to-65-70 mph in what feels like 2-3 seconds... My Kawasaki GpZ1100 felt slow by comparison.

[@BM205]

Amen! Words simply cannot describe it! 😁

[@flyingfinnstarRacing]

100% agree. Riding a HondaCR 500 was an absolute beast, it felt like shifting up gears the acceleration kept increasing! I’ll never forget that bike

[@paulpence8895]

Cant imagine what a dream these are to ride. Was way back for me, 1974-90~, the technology today is amazing. Bob Hannah Rocks!!!

[@carolpreston2276]

hannah top so was brad lakey when he took on europe and won and was number one

[@KellerDidThat]

4t vs. 2t? Blondes vs. brunettes? Ford vs. Chevy? Why? Its best to have both and I do. My WR450 can do things my 250x can't and vice versa. I think it's great that there are so many options these days.

[@ImJustShadow.]

@@pghdave420 yeahhhhhhhh you can't stretch it that far quads are gay

[@ImJustShadow.]

@@pghdave420 yeahhhhhhhh you can't stretch it that far everyone knows quads shouldn't exist.

[@shogun678]

@@pghdave420 lol

[@frankcrawford416]

Why do you care if your 4 strokes can do things that your 2 stroke can't. You know the 2 stroke is a hoot.

[@ZSmith-yy4lv]

@@ImJustShadow. quads are for people who want to actually get work done every once in a while.

[@_Pymander]

I love both! But in north idaho with highish elevation the 4stroke is more reliable unless your 2stroke is tuned perfectly. But I risk it, 2 stroke all the way for me!

[@viciousviolet3783]

I’m a 2 stroke lover purely for the sound they just sound amazing ow and the smell lol

[@dennism103]

I think I'm falling for you Lexie?

[@JoseSanchez-wh1zb]

I'm new on this what do you recommend? 250 450 Honda or Yamaha 2 stroke or 4 stroke?

[@tweakah10]

Jose Sanchez 250 2 stroke is the best you wont regret it man👍🏻

[@tweakah10]

Jose Sanchez yz250x 2stroke

[@JoseSanchez-wh1zb]

@@tweakah10 can tell what's the range price on them for a ktm 250 cc 2008

[@cadwarrior]

life is short, try both, pick the one you like the most, or both, end of story, nobody cares...

[@douglasgreaves188]

Miss my 2 stroke. But 4 stroke lot more relaxed pulls up steep mud & loose rocks easier.

[@SunShine-ud6nk]

Why do people care so much like just pick what works for you!

[@GrowingDownUnder]

because they are the same people who think size matters, usually they are overcompensating because their ego won't let them ride 4 strokes

[@crunchytheclown9694]

@@GrowingDownUnder many modern views on what works better formed by marketing and propaganda, some of us were there when it happened. I do accept some people prefer 4 stroke dirt bikes and good for them but all things being equal they are slower and more expensive

[@trevor866]

@@crunchytheclown9694 more expensive? I can run hundreds of hours on a rebuild on my yz450f. Two strokes need top ends frequently to keep them moving. And any machining is virtually the same and 2 strokes suck back more fuel. I would say that cost is not much different.

[@crunchytheclown9694]

@@trevor866 as these motors evolve they have become more like each other in some ways, shorter life span and increased servicing in four strokes trying to achieve comparable power outputs, two stroke added complexity (power valve , fuel injection etc) The reality is both motors worked hard over a period of time the two stroke is still cheaper to maintain (set of ring and gaskets 60% of freshen ups ) and you still get the bonus of more power less weight. Each to their own happy riding

[@trevor866]

@@crunchytheclown9694 that's fair to say. I would agree that the two stroke is cheaper. But taking a good look into how technology has evolved in two strokes I'm not sure if the difference is enough to justify the love of two strokes over four strokes. Both are amazing bikes. I'm currently bring a 2008 yz450 back from the dead because the previous owner couldn't afford or couldn't be bothered to do the maintenance. I have about 1300 invested in the motor which in the grand scheme of things isn't too bad for a motor that was one or two rides away from being toast. I've seen comparable numbers with the modern two strokes. I sincerely hope that two and four strokes continue to improve. Both are awesome to ride.

[@Tammacazi10]

I used to have a KTM 250 exc 2-stroke and my brother used to have a yz 250f. We both liked the KTM better because of how smooth it was and how much power it had even at low rpms. 2-stroke all day long!

[@MrJimmyT]

2 stroke just rocks I write this before watching the video, the power surge is like a drug to me I was lucky enough to get a big wheel YZ80 for my 12th birthday after having a PW80 for about 5 years and its just the sound and smell I Fu**ing love it.

[@Eldofarmboy]

It’s all a matter of the rider’s preference. For example, a few years ago I took a 2 stroke 125 into the 450 class at my local track and claimed first for the season. The following season I rode a 450 and took 5th. Season after that I rode my buddy’s CR250 and was back on top. The reason is because I’m a 2 stroke rider. I like to just wring the bike’s neck and toss it around like a mountain bike. Not to mention the nasty snarling sound a 2 stroke makes. The brap of a 4 stroke is cool but the snarl is just sublime

[@Omegadoomship]

I own both a 2 stroke and 4 stroke dirt bikes. I will say that I prefer the 4 stroke for cruising and going on longer trail rides. But I definitely prefer the 2 stroke if I want to go fast and rip around on dirt tracks. Also the sound and smell of a 2 stroke is hard to beat.

[@dennism103]

Riding a 2 stroke dirt bike is one of the funnest things that I've done in my life

[@colbybarton3205]

same bro, I just started

[@jmoto7884]

Well said! Great video!

[@redneckracing8895]

Ride or Die 2 Strokes for life keep them smoking

[@CKing724]

Man I'm loving the comments on this! I love my Yz250x, wouldn't ride anything else!!

[@HeyDude93gt]

2 strokes are so much fun to ride. I’m glad I got my hands on an 04 CR250R several years ago

[@ligma6553]

Gee Smith are you sure

[@noahranker4133]

Gee Smith cause you fix them every ride

[@terrywilson1362]

I have the 19 yz250fx, and wouldn't trade it for nothing out there, love my 4stroke

[@adamthomas5156]

I love my 2019 yz250x my favorite race bike yet

[@100mphFastball]

"Most riders like the 2 stroke" well duh.

[@verbalwidget7267]

2 stroke the only way too go! Thanks Yamaha for still making them!

[@howardwoods342]

My 2021 yz 250x is freaking amazing, and with the upgrades I have on it will take it over any other bike any day. Love them 2 smokers

[@andrewtrombley1333]

Yup, i added XC apex head, boysen reeds, panthera e-start, smart carb, and power valve mod. Thing is amazing. her names Juniper :)

[@pauloaraujo1874]

2 T is good music for the ears and heart.

[@markmtbrider]

Wish I could afford both. The 250x for extreme enduro, tight single track, then fx for local xc race series. Plus I will still want a ride while the 4t is down for engine rebuilds....valves, cranks, pistons , timing chain and tensioner.......

[@craigloomis20]

I have a 250x but have always been a little envious of the looks of the fx.

[@jetdr]

2 stroke guy, but I will take either or. Actually have a 2 stroke yz250 that I made into a trail bike, flywheel weight, new pipe and took the front sprocket down 1 tooth. But I am looking at the yz450fx for my next ride.

[@TheLoydal]

Anything Yamaha wins in my book :) although I would love to see a yz125x type of bike. I ride a yz125 that's heavily modified for woods riding and I love it. Thanks for all of the great videos.

[@jordaanduplessis3024]

In south africa ive seen 125x in the last couple months

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

any yamaha even the 250 cant last 10 times more than any 530 ktm

[@grunx_1202]

Loydal yz125 have enought power to climb hills??? in slow riding?

[@TheLoydal]

Yeah it has enough power. It would be nice to have a wide ratio transmission. And if I lose momentum on a hill or make a mistake I have to use the clutch a lot, but it works. :) I think the lack of power at times is more than offset by it's light weight though. In my opinion.

[@grunx_1202]

Loydal so if i get 250 2t il have no problem

[@absolutetuber]

i just bought the 2022 yz450fx a couple of weeks ago.....so glorious.

[@krispewkrem3]

I could never pick one or the other. A 2 stroke is nearly impossible to stall through nasty slow stuff. It refuses to overheat. They’re so light and nimble and fun. And they’re fairly simple to maintain. And the 4 stroke feels comfier at steady speed and just buttery smooth. With momentum, they’re absolutely amazing. And 4 stroke wheelies are nice.

[@AnthonyGman]

Nothing NOTHING beats two stroke when it comes to fun and sound.

[@charlesabrownjr.2875]

Nice color on the four stroke 👍

[@dustinledford6150]

2strokes 4life💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸

[@timconnell9587]

2 stroke is the way to go. Just sold a wr450 which felt like a tank. Just wish Yamaha would discount the 2 stroke to compete with KTM.

[@andreasstefanou5898]

I prefer the Yamaha over rhe KTM easily. Way better suspension More fun and more reliable. The e start doesn't impress me much I like the kickstart

[@richierudd]

I had an extra 2015 YZ125 as a back up bike that I had for sale and I can tell you that many guys who were on KTM's specifically the 150 couldn't stand the suspension and wanted to trade their KTM for the YZ. Rather than discount the YZ; they need to come up with a updated frame like they did with the four strokes.

[@johnhewitt1096]

You paying for quality and reliability. Its well worth it

[@zane4964]

@@andreasstefanou5898 suspension is on par both are just as fun and reliable.

[@brianmorrison9066]

Yamaha is less than 8k Ktm is like 10k

[@Braselton21]

*I want Both* :D On the Track - 4Stroke In the Tress - 2Stroke

[@mp-mh3wf]

I'd take the 2 smoke funer to ride

[@bassfishingwiththeantichri2921]

I always wanted a kick stand.

[@shannonscott5788]

I live in S.C. an we love both worlds but at 40 years young I have crossed over to 4t and love my uncorked 2019 WR450. More then enough power for trails BUT @240lbs it's great knowing I have that little extra grunt to pull me through any conditions. #P.S. push start has me spoiled👌😁

[@richierudd]

I am a Yamaha guy but I would like to see an updated frame on the YZ125 and YZ250. It's really about time as it hasn't really changed since 2005 for the frame. Yamaha's four stroke bikes have the advancements in the frames and are more balanced.

[@sciewter]

I don't see it, they poured a tone of R&D into the yz just before the 4 T's took over. Sales = R&D $$'s. I love my yz250 but orange is calling my name

[@firemenonbikes]

I would so love them to take the YZ 2T range to the next level! The fact they are still selling them new gives me a glimour of hope!

[@sciewter]

I would love it, E-start update the engine and trans. I just think of everything they have l done in the past 8 years on 4 T's half of that has to be applicable to this platform.

[@richierudd]

I agree money should be spent on the 2 stroke platform and E-start would be great. I like the simplicity of two strokes; much easier on the wallet to maintain and rebuild.

[@quirinm.]

The yz250 simply is the perfect dirtbike, if you like carb and kickstart, there is nothing to improve. The ergonomics are perfect and the KYB SSS suspension is exactly the same as on 2024 Yamaha four strokes, i have ridden all sorts of ktms and i still prefer the yz250 because i prefer simplicity. If you can’t handle a kickstart and some vibration , you probably are too old to ride a dirtbike anyways. I have finished top 5 in about every local xc/woods race on my 250x competing with mainly ktm and husky. The only thing i don’t like is the cable clutch but i put a magura hymec on it.

[@thisseagamer8165]

Both are great bikes, some rides I would ride the 2 stroke, other longer rides the 4 stroke.

[@MrMetal4you]

2T for me!!!!!! But yamaha please update the yz250x for 2020...Thanks

[@tommillar7273]

MrMetal4you With e-start!!! 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@oimara9511]

@@tommillar7273 no please not! If you can't start a 2T with a Kickstarter stop riding!

[@dean8067]

As far as i heard they are discontinuing it for 2020 lol

[@woah_astro3867]

@@oimara9511 why wouldn't you want e start? I prefer to kick my bike but e start has saved my ass a few times

[@jahbay]

@@woah_astro3867 electric start adds weight and is completely unnecessary.

[@lamiyagraham9486]

The 2 stroke is such a beauty

[@Anything_With_An_Engine]

I owned 4 strokes my whole life. After years I finally had owned my dream bike a 2000 CR250R 2 stroke. I will never want a 4 stroke again. The 2 stroke just has this fun factor that keeps you on your toes with the power band. Hopefully someday I can be in a position to own another dirtbike and I will 100% be looking for a YZ250X

[@azpitbull]

I bought 2 new bikes on same day because i wanted best of both worlds. The WR450 and YZ-250X -each has their pros and cons. But I do agree with the video. The 4-stroke is more forgiving and handles really well. Bottom end -2stroke all day. But top end -you gotta go with mighty 4-stroke. She just keeps on picking up speed and its pretty fun. Oh and I ride in the desert and sea-level. THanks, great video -though it was made yrs ago.

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

Thanks for sharing

[@brandonespinoza111]

Just bought a 22 yz250x 4 months ago first time riding in 12+ years and the last bike I rode was a Honda 70 let’s just say it was the best thing I ever bought

[@ssbbmoto]

You should grenade both motors then compare the cost to repair them. I like 4 strokes but the cost and ease of maintenance and repair will always keep me on a 2 stroke.

[@rickymarkwalter8503]

I'm 55 and have rode since I was 2 I have an Indian 50 my parents got me when I was one , and as far as 2 vs 4 , both put a huge smile on my face any time I throw a leg over . The only gripe I have is with the electric starters!!!! The old saying " if you can't crank it you can't ride it " was a good thing .. now anyone who can mash a button can throw a leg over a 250 or god forbid a 450 and take off and that's bad ,because as y'all know neither is something to take for grantite (sp?) NO ONE who doesn't ride should jump on a 450 and just go , that's death on a stick mate !! So 2 or 4 strokes ROCK , but E.starters NOT SO MUCH !! RIDE ON !!

[@TravNasty520]

I just bought a 2017 YZ450FX and love it. I upgraded from a 2010 yz450f. Let me tell you I really like having electric start. It would be hard to go back to a bike that didn’t have it lol

[@timmosley9695]

I still remember when my friend let me ride his new 2 stroke Suzuki RM80 and I was hooked. From that point I only bought 2 stroke because the power will put a smile on your face. My last bike was a 85 CR500 before I got married and so I have been out of dirt biking for many years now, so its hard for me to believe that a 450 4T could out run a 500 2T from what the Honda salesman told me. I think he's BS'ing me.

[@tommax1626]

It might outrun the 2stroke but only on certain ground, cause the 4strokes are heavier on the ground and an even distribution in their power band. That holds only true for ground where you have bad traction like dirt. But else there would be no way, it is a day night difference between them. Thats why in many racing category's 2strokes compete against 4strokes with twice the amount of cubic.

[@Steve25g]

used to have an YZ250 , '83 I believe, but afterwards, remembering serial number, I tend to believe, it was a factory machine.. it was sooo powerfull. A 500 couldn't get away, it was said to have 65HP. Had to sell it, due to place restriction ( parents) , wanted to make it a streetlegal. The next owner starved it, to get it less powerfull, yet didn't end well, not for rider, not for bike :(

[@slawomirnawrot7239]

I rode both. Prefer 250x and that's what I got. Amazing bike.

[@F4izzle]

I almost bought the 250x but the Husky TE300 came with more feature out of the box. I do think the suspension is much better on the Yamaha.

[@jebediahnightlinger6357]

How do like the TE today?? I bought a 23' WR250 and love it but really want to try a TE!

[@RB-pr2ly]

I do own a 2019 YZ250FX and I love it, great bike. But I have to admit that there is something special with that two stroke that you can’t get with a four stroke. Just my two cents. :)

[@jamesc6137]

I live here in the south and have riden all over track and woods in these states. Best all around bike I ever had for fast woods tight woods nasty woods or motocross track was a bone stock 03 CR250R….that bike could do anything and fast.

[@easternyellowjacket276]

I'm amazed that the two stroke sounds quieter than the 4 stroke. That is the biggest surprise to me.

[@boygirlandadad5814]

4 strokers love the smell of my Bel Ray.

[@measydoesit289]

Can’t lie, I love how the 2 stroke sounds But the 4 stroke is bombproof! I had a Xr 100 4 stroke and it went for ages without ANY repairs AT ALL ALso had a YZ125 2 stroke and was constantly changing rings gaskets etc... I’d go 4 stroke these days personally But both are fun... Ride safe boys🤘

[@Hustler9g]

I've had a different experience. My yz250 went over 150 hours before a top end and my xr100 never seems to love life hahaha

[@measydoesit289]

Riley McKee Might just be a bit of luck involved My brother bought a transit connect for £4000 ...blew up 3 days later! I bought same model van for £750 Never cost me a penny?!... Luck of the draw I think 🤔 👍🏻

[@Hustler9g]

@@measydoesit289 proof these machines have a bit of soul. Everyone is different!

[@alexanderwillis77]

ikr i have an 81 xr100 4 stroke and it's great for a 40 year old bike

[@quirinm.]

Because your xr was a underpowered trail bike, i had a Kawasaki kmx 125 thas has an detuned kx 125 engine that does 24hp only and that bike lasted me 20.000 miles on a single piston. Your yz was a race bike and racing four strokes last maybe 3x as long as two strokes but when it comes to fixing them , it costs thousands

[@rlima123]

I love 2 stroke sound and oil smeeell!!!

[@neal2608]

I love my 2014 YZ250. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

[@grahamvandermark1348]

I rode both of these at a test ride day, and if anyone has questions I’ll be glad to answer... But if you ask what one is better, I have no answers for that, they are both fantastic..

[@labasrytas2876]

help me mate, 49 years old, looking for some light enduring pleasure riding- not going to get any results- just want to have fun - i do own 250 4t, but recently bought 125 2t- this bike feels so much lighter and more fun..i can controll it much better tan 4t.. but many people say that this bike is no good for enduring, also beginning??

[@sessiontelemetric5618]

Stacked side by side, the 4T looks sleeker but It’s like asking “blondes? Or brunette’s?” because both of these machines are sexy. I have a bit of a crush on the yZ250X but beauty will always be in the throttle of the beholder.

[@lishakalijee1190]

I have a 2 stroke yamaha at home, can't wait to ride it😅

[@endurotruckererniedesjardins]

Love my 2018 yz250. Only thing i dont like is the throttle. Compared to my 2007 kx250 it feels really easy to turn. In choppy terrian it blips real easy. Is there a stiffer spring out there i can put in my carb. Or any other tricks to make it feel more old school.. lol Ive been reading dirtbike mag since the 80s.

[@maverick2242]

The debate has been going on forever and it will forever, 2strokes don’t mind 4ts but 4t riders seem to constantly want to feel superior, I’d have both, if one the YZ250x though. Both look great,. Yamaha have done a great job with the FX, be good if you guys did a long term year review of both and compared costs of ownership.

[@owenarsenault5955]

Well said, 2st rider can usually ride 4st better than 4st ride 2st. They both have there places.

[@maverick2242]

Owen Arsenault no way mate we havent been trying to ban the 4t for the last 4 decades, we are secure in our 2t skins and not so sensitive to bike farting and sounding like tractors, it dosent bother us at all, but it bothers 4t riders that because they need twice the capacity just to compete if thats not insecurity I dont know what is and then to top it off only in the millenial age is fatter heavier been marketed and worse believed os better than lighter easier quicker handling no different with cars oh modern times. But hey I will always greet you on the track and trail and say nice bike dude. Its how us 2stroke Guys roll “we aint pretty he-s my brother!” 🤙happy trails.

[@dean8067]

Generally looking at comments, that's absolute bullshit. Even in this very comment section, all you find are people saying how useless 4 strokes are and how 2 strokes will always be superior, even insulting all 4 stroke riders just because of their choice of machine

[@hamish2202]

Maverick224 it will go until everything's electric

[@Mockle07]

Dean Grimsell - Was just about to say the same thing, it’s always 2t riders banging on about how much better they are 😴 I love both for different things, but some people are just so blinkered... it’s pretty pathetic.

[@scorpioscythe4577]

The only reason I like a 4 stroke mode is because of its sound. Man if you get a 450 Yamaha 4 stroke that thing is sexy sounding.

[@randomdude4669]

Cant beleive someone with a 2t superioriorty complex haven't responded saying they sound like farts and are crap

[@scorpioscythe4577]

Random Dude yeah me too lol

[@CG-11235spiral]

I love my 17 450fx... I learned on kx250 2t and I don’t understand how people can say 450’s are for putting around. Lmao they must not have ever pined one before. I put a fmf F4.1 on it and it sound awesome you are correct General!

[@scorpioscythe4577]

C G lucky! I’ve been learning on my little susuki drz 125. Even though it only goes 45 I love it lol. Next step for me is a 250.

[@spymaine89]

yes ''less power'' would find traction. up to ''rider to deliver ''2 stroke'' power , gently......

[@brockmiller3277]

I love my 250x

[@DennyBass]

brock miller I have a 17 250x. It’s so good. Try not to smile

[@tommillar7273]

brock miller Jelly.

[@matmuffin1]

In love with mine as well, it's the bike that makes some ktm boys jealous when they ride it

[@kirbstomped361]

Im sad i have a klx 110

[@jakethelittlesnake6258]

Not hating on the four stroke, but if you ride really rough enduro type stuff the two stroke definitely is the way to go there, basically the only racing left where the two stroke still dominates the podiums is hard enduro.

[@maverick2242]

JakeTheLittleSnake that’s because the are allowed to compete on equal footing, no bs rules to protect Japanese companies and the fact that the Euro off road brands are as up to date technology wise as they’re 4t counter parts, the Yamaha is held back on some ways being the only 250 2t that is a 5 Speed, the rest are 6 Speed, hydraulic clutch, e start, map switches TPI, adjustable power valves, Yamaha does good with what it is, but how many do you see in hard Enduro, a few but near almost all are European brands, also where 4t and 2 t complete together in Enduro GP which is not traditional as Enduro as it once was, 2t is also dominating. Juniors 125cc 2t - 2504t 2t 125s is leading and they have been dominating the 250fs, E1 - 250 Beta currently leader and won most rounds to date E2 the only class that is 4t only guess what a 4t leads that one. E3 250-2t - 300 2t up to 450 4t, dominated by 300 2t Beta again. Enduro GP overall lead by Beta 300 2t 4 class out of 5 lead by 2t in Enduro GP many special stages are basically Mx or GNCC style tracks mixed with Enduro courses to finish 2t is not dead that’s what MX wants you to believe on even footing and development it would be no contest.thats what they don’t want.

[@maverick2242]

I’m getting a ***** on it must be time for me to go ride my 2t🤪

[@maverick2242]

The ironic thing about the Calif and Honda how they pushed the 4t thing through on everyone with they’re fear and threats is that MX is the lure closed course competition it never had anything to worry about emission wise, yet the everyday weekend warrior where however many times more bikes are sold are used outside of a closed course is where the 2t has stayed the course proven itself time and time again, they’re were no politics and agendas that held back those sports why Hard Enduro emerged and is becoming the biggest baddest off road segment of all, it reaches everyone connects to everyone, MX and esspecially SX as become an elitist sport like all others sports dominated by politics and money esp TV coverage. The numbers get less each year u it’s sold, eventually Honda Suzuki will cry we don’t sell enough bikes to worry about MX, like they did with the 500 class, that’s the lie they will tell again, to justify their position. Unfortunately people will buy into that crap.

[@whalesong999]

With some reluctance I agree. I began riding enduros on Bultaco Matadors in the mid '60s and went on to medal in the Berkshire Intl. trials on OSSA and a Suzuki. The terrain was so incredibly demanding in most places and having to get off and pull a bike out of some muck or negotiating the side of a steep hill going across it diagonally, it would have been a huge chore with a 4t, especially if an engine is prone to stalling. The 2 strokes didn't and that was such a big key to them being a joy to ride though there were some Triumph 500 twins getting on well in the larger class. The entire course was laid out by a grand fellow, Al Eames, on a 500 Triumph.

[@mrgreen9388]

We have the same bs in MOTOGP 😣

[@mattcuddy814]

The four stroke seems to handle better, because it's slower. And heavier too. Try doing a quick top end on the four striker. When they finally mate a two stroke top end on a four stroke bottom end, with an intake injector, heaven.

[@brentlenning2156]

There is no debate the 4 stroke is king and will always be king.4 strokes are better all around bikes and that 4 stroke sound is way more awesome.im 55 years old been riding motorcycles all my life 4 strokes have been and will always be the bikes to own.

[@Arya-rv9gd]

Next 6 stroke

[@michaelklinge1857]

after the EPA outlaws 2 stokes we'll be wondering what's better 4 strokes or electric bikes nice comparison love yamahas 2 or 4 stroke thanks

[@acbarnard]

Ah, the two stroke sounds so good to an old guy like me.

[@montearcher7861]

One thing that is not a debate on which is better. To bring the “greener” four strokes on the market and make them competitive, more money had to be brought to the sport. Prices had to go up! As the four stroke technology got more complex the price had to increase. This in turn had to bring up the price for two strokes as well, other wise no one would buy four strokes. Since there was one power stroke to every other rotation of the motor (2 strokes 1 power stroke to one revolution), displacement compensation had to be use. 250 two strokes vs 400 four strokes. Then 440s then the 450. Then the four strokes could over take the two strokes. Along with the redesign of tracks more suitable for four strokes. In the golden days of dirt bikes you could buy your kid a race bike and it not cost what a street bike would cost. You could work on the two strokes yourself easily. Now four strokes are single cylinder Lamborghinis! Look at the pistons and the head design. I’m going to say top end technology. And still to this day we are arguing which is better? Well I want a Lamborghini too, but it better out preform all other cars. Can we have affordable fun back please?

[@AverageDaveVideos]

Sold my wr400f for a yz250 and hot damn what a difference, from bush pig to inferno. Grabbing a handful on the WR is ok, but do that on the YZ and she'll launch to the moon without you.

[@snkneo-geo933]

A YZF450 would blow your YZ250 away!

[@frankcrawford416]

I just love it that you stick to 2 strokes. They make me feel exillerating.

[@felixtigris1531]

4 stroke for supermoto and 2 stroke for motocross

[@thisseagamer8165]

Felix Tigris So a 450r is made for supermoto?

[@stripervince1]

2strokes rule. No comparison. The smell, the sound, the powerbands

[@ahmedkhalid7241]

4 strokes cuz it's 40°C outside and i like the ozone layer.

[@moontrekerben7801]

question here, didn't find anywhere if the x version has the electric stuff to put a light on??? Anyone has an answer?

[@stanleykania7184]

Bought a new 2018 yz250x and have to say that I have only one problem.. wish a had a more time to ride it.. mouth old and 4.5 hrs..

[@jamessavor4772]

2 strokes all the way. pls bring them back in supercross and motocross.

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Factories are making too much money off the 4 strokes because when they blow up, more money made for the factories and dealers, and more empty pockets for the people that buy the damn things.

[@nestserau]

@@carlatamanczyk3891 If you maintain your four-stroke it won't blow up. If you ride it until it blows up and then complain about reparation costs you shoot in your own foot. Also that's a myth that dealers earn big money on spare parts. If you do everything yourself they hardly earn anything at all.

[@rovidbouski4022]

Aleks, not true! 4 stroke bikes will be much more expensive to fix and are more complicated

[@nestserau]

@@rovidbouski4022 You need to maintain things, not ride until they break. Your bank account will say thank you to you. Now tell me fixing a TPI bike is less complicated than fixing a 4-stroke. What 2-stroke fans don't understand is that Japanese gave up on 2-strokes not because they wanted to make more money on parts, but because to make progress on 2-strokes like all the fans want, they would make it more complicated than a 4-stroke. And KTM has done just that! At this point a 250 cc 4-stroke makes equal power to a 250 cc 2-stroke, which just proves that the bet on 4-strokes was absolutely correct. You can as well say that it's more complex to fix an injector than a carburettor which can be true, but the truth is, you never have to fix an injector. It's more complex, but it just works. While I remember my farther always messing around with his carburettor. Yes, he could do that on his lap, but it was unreliable. I have never had a carbureted car or a motorcycle just for that reason. I want to ride, not sit in my garage doing "cheap" maintenance.

[@rovidbouski4022]

Aleks, more moving parts equals more maintenance. The reason they switched to 4 strokes is pollution. I dont care what you do to a 250 cc 4 stroke, its always less powerful than a 250 cc 2 stroke. And the 2 stroke is lighter

[@Isuckatgames]

I prefer 2 stroke but I don't like mixing gassolie. So I use 4 stroke

[@79gsonethousand]

powerband for life.

[@yessir7302]

Which would you recommend for sandy and rocky conditions?

[@leadhead7338]

Racers are probably gravitating towards 4 stroke due to less maintanance, but that goes both ways! A 2 stroke any one can rebuild, while the 4 strokes you gotta know more about the mechanics!

[@LifeWideOpen780]

Why no headlights

[@joseron523]

Kickstarted BA Electric says everything to me

[@CWalsh-pj9cp]

Is the 4 stroke a lot of power to handle or hang on to?

[@pholton3300]

Are there any differences from the 2018s???

[@JohnSmith-dj5gf]

Gotta have that two-stroke hit!!!

[@grunx_1202]

can i ride this 250 2 t in trails and street and bit on track????

[@MatthewCoco]

Thanks for sharing your opinions - really insightful - but 7mins of the same footage over and over? Get your camera guy working harder. Get those things dirty ;)

[@Logan-or5qw]

I'll take mine in a 2-$troke & see you guys behind me on the trail.

[@yamahaxs6501]

Just reinforcing what we all know. Yes, the four-stroke is probably a better overall bike, and especially for real racing. But, the two stroke will always be more fun.