2002 Gillig Low Floor - Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority Bus 2218 on Line 23

[@chrisblackstone5975]

If it was a fantom you were looking for? I have caught them on the 66 and the 72. Occasionally I will see one on the 73 as the 72 and 73 flip flop at basset terminal. I honestly like the new flyers as well as the gilligs from the fantoms to the low floor ones. I am not at all crazy about the gillig dyebrids that we have now. I have heard them and they sound in rough shape compared toe first series of articulated buses we got for the 22. I am referring to of course the D40LFS of course.

[@WestCoastElevators]

I have caught Phantoms on the 55, once on the 23, and I see them regularly running the 60. The D60LFs are pretty nice. The XDE60LFs are holding up alright, but I'm not really an Xcelsior fan.

[@WestCoastElevators]

Also, the Gillig Hybrids seem to be holding up alright to me. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kInYaneJqpijlZo

[@chrisblackstone5975]

In my previous comment I ment to refer to the new flyer D60LFsS. However next series of hybrids VTA buys they should seriously go for a 40 foot version of the ones they got for the 522 recently. The hybrid drive system on those is a much better system especially when you consider it shuts off the diesel if it doesn't need it.

[@WestCoastElevators]

I think the BAE HybriDrive (the system the New Flyer XDE60s have) is better than the Allison H 40 EP one that the majority of the Gillig Hybrids have. Not only does it shut the engine off when it isn't needed, it uses lithium batteries rather than NiMH. The newest Gillig Low Floor Hybrids, purchases VERY recently actually have the same BAE HybriDrive system as the NFI XDE60s.