2006 Barrows Guides Were Confusing

[@floppyj.burger5402]

The ring of wealth was pretty common to see in every pvm guide back in the day since everyone thought it increased the drop rate of all unique items

[@RandomGamer9]

That's interesting because that's what it does in rs3 but different luck rings work for more or less bosses

[@floppyj.burger5402]

@@RandomGamer9 yea it was so widely accepted that’s how it worked that jagex just changed it to work that way. It was broken when it was buffed. Had a bug that allowed crazy drop chances which essentially allowed clans to dupe money

[@floppyj.burger5402]

@@RandomGamer9 yea it was so widely accepted that’s how it worked that jagex just changed it to work that way. It was broken when it was buffed. Had a bug that allowed crazy drop chances which essentially allowed clans to dupe money

[@lstcwelder3930]

​@floppyj.burger5402 i thought that was how Jagex worded it back when it released. That it would increase your chances at a rare drop but they left out the word table.

[@nZoot]

Still remember that lmao. People were farming sigils at corp😂​@floppyj.burger5402

[@SimakSantana]

2006 barrows experience was being 10 years old walking all the way starting from varrock east bank, Trying to melee them and then dying and losing all your gear

[@drumline17]

Oh my god this unlocked some core memories for me. Barrows was BRUTAL back in 2006. We were all just idiot kids

[@aarons6935]

Good times

[@johnadams3153]

The era of this guide was pre GE and prayer potions were like 30k. you were rich if you could afford to bring more than 1 somewhere

[@trailstar1]

Nah, they were 6k. I still used to tele out and walk back from Varrock rather than use one because 6k was a lot then 😂

[@TheTolnoc]

Must have been pre-Isle of Souls? You can get a bunch of Ranarr there, and loot Snape Grass from the Fremennik area.

[@iwantmyfile5]

​@@TheTolnoc Isle of Souls wasn't added until late 2020

[@canes4ever162]

@@TheTolnocthis comment is golddddddddd

[@TheTolnoc]

@@iwantmyfile5 Oh, damn, it feels ancient.

[@sambible3492]

zybez guides hit different man

[@tappajaav]

Looking at old guides and the completely different approach towards the game, compared to present day(or even just last 10 years), puts in perspective the abundance of accurate information available on almost any topic you can think of, and many you can't. This was quite entertaining, thank you for sacrificing some of your time and sanity.

[@Dot2TheLock]

You had to refill every time you used the ectophile back in the day.

[@fr0zeNid]

ectophile💀

[@I_hunt_lolis]

Those damn ectophiles attracted to ectofuntus

[@AIIu_]

That used to be the case in early osrs too and even after they updated it to auto refill, you could still interrupt the filling animation on accident by moving until they changed that too

[@andrewrice9383]

At the time of release, there was no home teleport so if you didn’t have a teleport you either had to walk back or die or have someone teleport you out.

[@darkychao]

oh man, I did not realize just how long the gauntlets were best in slot. those things came out in 2002 and weren't supplanted until 2006 when RFD's barrows gloves just absolutely blew them out of the water, replacing their +2 strength/attack bonus with +12.

[@ezpzfakie]

i remember getting a guthan spear and sold it for 6m then buying a whip and a d med.

[@meabhmurphy9090]

One thing to factor in is that on-release prices would've been a lot higher than they are nowadays

[@I_hunt_lolis]

Yeah Guthans spear something like 7 mil back then

[@zaza5584]

I got a Karils bow day 1 and sold for 25m which was like 3 red phats

[@MrPartypooper]

"This method is probably slower than just taking the shortcut...plus it's probably a little bit faster"

[@aliendead7580]

This was before all the quality of life updates

[@ashryver3605]

I lived through these days. Ill take this era of low information gaming any fucking day over what we have now, being spoonfed by information and meta gaming and full explanation at the drop of a hat. Games were so much funner when you had to learn. The untamed wild west of a game.

[@Pabs-r2c]

Nah to be fair people still used guides religiously like Sal's Realm and Zybez. The only difference today is that these guides are actually accurate with real math behind everything whereas back then it was mostly written by people guessing

[@ashryver3605]

@@Pabs-r2c Ofc you still used them, but you were playing as they were being written and discovered. When you go and get into OSRS now, it's all done, the games already figured out, all the mechanics and inner workings are completely known and optimized

[@noodledkx545]

if you adjust for inflation at the time of the guide I imagine that bonds would be like 3-500k and almost any barrows item worth somewhere between like 2-3m or more for things like veracs for KQ, ahrims and karils. even at 2 chests an hour at min stats/gear thats a big payout back then for sure

[@devon12346]

bonds weren't a thing until 2013

[@christofferengevik8]

@@devon12346lol

[@belof449]

i know around 2006-7 dharoks axe was 1m, as that is what i bought it for and got scammed for selling it

[@noodledkx545]

@@devon12346 yeah i know.. I’m just using bonds as a reference because he did too

[@erickchristensen746]

As someone who lived during the 04+ era of Runescape the Barrows Items were extremely expensive back then. A single piece that wasn't Torag was worth upwards to 10m which doesn't sound much today but back then that was a large amount. And even then Torag pieces were still worth 1 to 2mil each. Dragon Chain was still around 40Mil itself during the minigame's release and the dragon med helm was also still roughly 20mil which was a super rare drop from barrows as well.

[@mylatahiri2572]

Great vid, I love the "following old guides" format

[@andriyu]

The Verac's armor method was really good back in the day. After completing a run I would teleport to my POH where I had an altar to recharge prayer and a Canifis portal. The run through the dungeon, across the bridge, and briefly through the swamp to the boat was the fastest way to get back to Barrows.

[@brodesseus3904]

This is pure gold lmao - we were so... silly back then and I miss those days dearly

[@LBYTACC123]

Slayer dart method was op af tho. Used to do lotttts of barrows with it

[@mirko241]

19:24 Damn one day straight and four drops, that's nearing profit levels that even modern 'scapers can't begin to comprehend

[@GwenisImmune]

this is exactly how i did it 😭 i kinda miss when nothing was optimized and we sorta just ran in and tried our best with whatever we had, it meant the stakes felt higher and it was more satisfying when you did actually manage to do something

[@gonxmaster]

I feel like you're giving your opinion based on your current 2024 knowledge and accesibility on information, where back in 2006 era was extremely scarse. I'm sure you didn't know most of the stuff back then either. Also, Barrows has undergone several changes since then, both during that period, and after the reboot in 2013. Still, nice video to look back on how the community used to offer advice to other players.

[@wierdoskill]

I remember being proud I felt like I could indefinitely stay at barrows with guthans. Biggest limiter was prayer which I think I would travel to burg to restock on. Gotta remember the price of some of the drops were insane. I think full guthans was 10m+ at one point with the spear itself being half the cost.

[@LBYTACC123]

Dh helm 10m i can remember lmao

[@KassettRS]

Thats sick, my dumb ass used to walk over to nature grotto to restore my prayer LMAO

[@tappajaav]

@@KassettRS You might've been one of five people in existence that actually used it to their benefit

[@derrickmeme1093]

obligatory subscribe for fellow osrs/melee head, been binging your videos all morning

[@xXmarsmannenXx]

No magic at all for barrows is crazy. Don't let the guys who wrote these back in the kitchen to cook.

[@KassettStudio]

Nahh Zbart99 fr ahead of their time with that Veracs strat

[@erickchristensen746]

The minigame was only 6 months old at the time with very limited useful gear and spells. People were still figuring it out what worked best and even then most people didn't even use Slayer Dart commonly until closer to 07. The times were different, we were all little kids(most of us anyways). It wasn't about speed and efficiency back then.

[@pickledokra2963]

​@erickchristensen746 yeah i remember literally nobody used slayer dart 😂

[@zbanul10]

Runes were low quantity and expensive then

[@Duckshoes1]

Running through the swammp area where the Juvenile Vyres are is new-ish when used in comparrison to the guide, they were added in 2006, whereas In Aid Of the Myrque was added in 2005, so the guide may very well have been created BEFORE those dangerous vyres were added, and it was just snails in that "safe" swamp route. Another thing to note is you mention how the puzzle may not have been a thing, I think it was just an oversight, 100% when I went to Barrows when it first released it had the puzzle. This was without a doubt in the game on launch. There's also the consideration that these drops were INSANELY RARE. Like I'm talking full guthans was 10m, DH was 7m, ahrims/karils was I think 3m? Guthans was by far the best for miles, and a whip was 3m as well. The loot, for its time, was great even with all those delays.

[@vampiricalchemist]

Bro did one run and decided to write a whole guide.😂

[@axesofebil]

Prayer flicking wasn't a thing back in the day, these guides were also all written by children. We were all in school doing this back in the day

[@k2a2l2]

bro making 75k an hour🔥

[@AnySPIDERPIG]

There is something truly beautiful about the arrogance of modern knowledge in a solved game on the modern Internet where there is a guide for literally everything juxtaposed to just whoever had the ability to get their guide posted somewhere haha

[@3SoccerPlayer3]

Prayer potions back in the day were 7k ea which is why they werent always used as much. Prices were different so if you had a time accurate pricing system it might make more sense.

[@golan586]

please keep doing content on old runescape guides they are hilarious

[@JDJReaver]

Back then, if you died, you lost everything except your 3 items and nobody used protect item all the time because we were all dumb kids. I could see not wanting to fuck around with things like staying around while screen shakes after Barrows to make sure of the outcome.

[@MrRandall171]

Seeing these comments about prayer pots being 30k are wild I'm so glad i made it to barrows just a bit before the G.e. was released. Selling those items on forums was brutally long sometimes or impossible. I just remember shouting Bank Sale trying to sell off my barrows pieces and never being able to get rid of Torag's hammers or Karil's coif

[@huuexx]

Amazing research my friend, thanks subbed

[@halfbean450]

I love this idea. Maybe try some other old content with old strats. I remember doing trio KQs with veracs back in the day lmao

[@Lollaksyotuube]

I like how innocent these guides were :)

[@turnkey_hole]

It's really funny to remember how little we actually knew for sure about mechanics. Most of them were totally opaque. And there was zero discussion with Jagex staff to ask questions. Almost everything was folk knowledge. And, of course, we didnt have the benefit of pooled stat knowledge and crowdsourcing

[@glacialdrumlin]

to this day, every time i see a dchain or ahrims i think about the old chainmail model and how much better it looked. 😢

[@Pan.95]

Honestly, that first guide was good for it's time, especially as an intro to barrows except for no prayer pots). One other very popular method I remember seeing was using a red/black salamander (whatever the best you could equip was), but that was in early 2007, should give a salamander run a try (black d'hide, salamander, melee wep in inv for skeleton kills for kc)

[@tappajaav]

Was diagonal salamandering with binds a thing back then? I was a total noob in 2007

[@wastedexperience]

with the ragnarok online music... loved that game as well

[@MainTopmastStaysail]

20:47 That player was also reading the first guide.

[@WeirdWAsian]

I used to use chaose gauntlets and fire bolt to do barrows, you could get away with 43 prayer and like 40 magic and still do it, for the time, very efficiently

[@Thecelestial1]

Prayer book could be activated to boost something or restore prayer points… I cant remember which.

[@TrollANIMU]

Prayer book can cure poison iirc

[@sqwop2773]

Loved the video, you should do this with old GWD guides as well

[@peterdmaster]

Thank you, this is very helpful

[@-tyhjaarpa]

4 chests per hour sounds about right to what it used to be back then. :D

[@Jorvalt]

For the travel method, I checked and fairy rings did not exist until over a year later. So, okay, the fairy ring to boat strat did not exist at the time. That would've been the fastest method besides once we got to OSRS where you had a arceeus teleport to Barrows.

[@fouryeartransform3042]

Method 1 to get there used to be meta... The context you observe it in is spoiled.

[@Soah1086]

as someone that played during that time, Karil really was a joke back then haha

[@ladle7188]

i love this.

[@Gravijahz]

WORLDS COLLIDE AND PEOPLE FADE, SEEKING GATES THROUGH TIMELINES WE'VE ALL PRAYED

[@theskulled4265]

This video was great!

[@Dripw]

very good video. underrated

[@PiikachUwU_OSRS]

I advise magic. If not, then melee, or ranged. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bigzem4696]

This video made me go do barrows

[@cjhubbard2388]

It there a reason you aren’t turning in the strange idol to the old guy on the mounds?

[@KassettRS]

haha not really, I did it once I was done with the tests ^^

[@tothepast]

Don't forget that the armor was very expensive

[@andrewrice9383]

I was there yesterday on an account without protection prayers so I flanking the crypt and running around without letting them attack me. I wonder what people thought about that.

[@jax775]

This is a great video.

[@thewolfin]

5:57 Apparently the ectophial didn't auto-refill until May 23rd, 2013... It sounds like he means you had to go downstairs all the way to fill it up at the slime pool, but the wiki doesn't say anything about that, and I don't remember it either.

[@KassettRS]

From how I remember it, you only had to use the vial on the fountain right by the teleport :3 I'm glad they changed it if you had to go all the way down to the pool though LMAO

[@SoftBreadSoft]

​​@@KassettRS you just had to use it on the fountain

[@DZ-X3]

If they ever sent you to the slime pool, that was changed early on. I've always refilled my phial from the ectofuntus, which is what the modern automatic mode does as well.

[@punk105]

I forgot to refill mine many times

[@andrewrice9383]

It was refilled right there where you teleported. Even after they made it automatic, you could still run away without filling it if you didn’t let it auto refill. I think since then, at least on RS3 they’ve made it where it forces it to refill even if you are spam clicking away. there were certainly a lot of quality of life limitations in the early game like that. No home teleport, no energy potions, not much teleportation jewelry, and if there was, it was much harder to obtain.

[@this_my_name9773]

wasn't flicking a core mechanic back in the day? i never played back then so idk. might be why they only recommend one prayer pot

[@fighisver]

No one really knew what prayer flicking or ticks were. Like sure, some people probably did it in desperate situations, but no one was doing it consistently. Also Barrows drains your prayer so flicking doesn't really matter anyway.

[@this_my_name9773]

@@fighisver true that, i forgot about all those prayer pots lol

[@ItsEveristo]

Back in the day, I used a similar setup to the Veracs method in this video. 😂

[@KassettRS]

legend

[@lololFloro]

Video popped up on my front page. Watched while i was driving home and it was very much entertaining! 😁

[@ougonce]

Don’t watch videos while driving what the fuck

[@Outwardpd]

That first guide was obviously made back when players were still expected to think for themselves. It wasn’t a step-by-step guide, it was a listing of information you need to figure out your own process. Felt very disingenuous to overlook that part and plug in the worst choices possible to make it look as dumb as possible. Too many players these days think a ‘guide’ has to be an exact layout of every action to perform each second lol. The wiki wasn’t really a thing back then, at best you’d have had runehq or tipit and they wouldn’t have had most of the info that guide had. For example they weren’t saying ‘kill them in this order’ they were just describing each brother to you and giving you ideas on how to fight them. A better execution of that guide would be using house teleports for canifis portal and altar. Both of which were cheap and easy to make even back then. Killing the brothers in a normal manner and bringing an emergency prayer pot but trying to avoid using it if possible.

[@aarons6935]

It's actually pronounced "my-reek- as confirmed by jamflex

[@PiikachUwU_OSRS]

Nope. My-er-key is correct.

[@Pabs-r2c]

Jesus Christ Barrows came out when i was in like 5th grade and just started the game not knowing shit about members stuff and barely into F2P

[@isakjohansson725]

new fav vid

[@leovalijarvi324]

Barrows is the original raid

[@Marc98338]

Bro there was so much nonesense about kc lol. I remember for months 13 kc was THE kc for best "luck" on items.

[@ryokuhasu9699]

Every guide more than a year old is outdated since the Barrows were changed by the introduction of elemental weaknesses lol

[@MaelZack]

Yeah there was way much limited quests and barely any good magical items.

[@bubbycoomer7892]

good video bro

[@leleco2]

Good times

[@I_hunt_lolis]

Woo nostalgic content exploding who would have thought Maybe more old stuff would be popular hint hint

[@reBORF]

maplestory

[@GClefCannon]

myreque is pronounced my-reek (pretend its french and say it with a snooty accent)

[@PiikachUwU_OSRS]

Nope. My-er-key is correct.

[@appahandler472]

This is the reason no one got anything done 😂

[@xXmarsmannenXx]

First

[@PiikachUwU_OSRS]

Tbf these guides were all written by 14yo's

[@SoftBreadSoft]

1:43 people used chaos gauntlets and fire bolt absolutely everywhere which is what I was thinking but the inv makes no sense

[@KassettStudio]

duuude the chaos gauntlet thing is so relatable, I used to think I was a genius for using them everywhere T_T