2009-2010 PBA GEICO Mark Roth Plastic Ball Championship Stepladder Finals

[@igoramaral95]

We need the plastic ball tournaments back. All of them were great shows

[@leebertie57]

I love it...it shows you who the best shotmakers are when they all use the same equipment.

[@flipper9038]

@@leebertie57 Also proves the old people saying "give people plastic and watch scores go down" are idiots lol.

[@leebertie57]

I am talking about using the same ball across the field...not specifically using plastic. But folks can definitely score well with plastic. They do not have to make as many adjustments.

[@doomusrlc]

@@leebertie57 I could see the ball companies having a fit over having to not rep their equipment on the show. Maybe if the PBA could make a rule that the bowlers can only use ball X for each company? Simple pancake weight ball and that's it for each one (i will note I have no clue if each company has a pancake weight heh). But I do agree I'd love to see this plastic ball tournament come back as a title event.

[@someguy2135]

Why did they stop? Anyone want to speculate?

[@BlkglasTheVette]

R.I.P. Mark. The bowling would will never be the same.

[@davidrogers0717]

So glad the PBA did this unique tournament to honor Mark while he was still with us.

[@leebertie57]

wow....Brian Ziesig beating the 2 greatest bowlers of our time to win his first title. Nerves of steel this guy has.

[@foxwolf316]

defeating a legend passed his prime barley, against a future star that's already at his prime, that's never been done before, or maybe it has been done before, but not an amateur bowler doing that, especially an amateur In his mid 30s, taking on 2 guys that are middle middle, with 1 guy already to his 50s, and one to his mid 20s, like that's crazy to do that, It's like the good bad and the ugly In a way, crazy even the way how it ended, like no way that can happen again, that's a million to 1 chance that will ever happen again, no way It can ever be done again.

[@dreman1970]

This really warmed my heart....not only because it was the local guy....but nostalgia....i grew up in babylon 5 min away from babylon bowl....bowled in the same league for 12 years in that very center....and i knew about half the people sitting in the crowd....what a moment....and oh yeah..to beat the greatest bowler ever and the greatest bowler at the time to win....priceless....

[@Hatsunex3]

bring back the plastic ball championship! most dramatic match that i have watched on pba

[@lylebarnard7447]

This was extremely fun to watch

[@TheeYoungJohnnyDepp]

This needs to be brought back. Such a good event. Just a fun time and fun to watch!

[@bobby_c7671]

Too bad most of the bowlers today consider it a gimmick tournament and wont compete in it. The lower scores might hurt thier fragile egos.

[@nyrambler23]

Rumor has it, the head pin Belmo left in the roll off is still in orbit over Babylon, NY

[@tobyga1929]

NYRambler bowled in Babylon the other day and yep that checks out

[@malypoohski]

BRING THIS BACK…the true test of a bowler

[@flipper9038]

1:13:51 oh how right randy was about 2 handed

[@someguy2135]

There were so many great story lines in this event. The legend who survived a stroke with the help of his wife. Spoilers below. The bowler with two bad knees and almost no approach but still advanced with a great score. The all time great pro giving the kids all they could handle. The two handed bowler revolutionizing the sport early in his career. And the home town favorite who left the PBA to finally get his first win as an amateur. If this was a movie, we wouldn't believe it. It reminded me of "Rudy."

[@louiscsanko3673]

ONE OF THE GREATEST TV FINALS MATCH IN MEMORY [ CONGRATS TO MR. ZEISIG ] GREAT MATCH, BOTH BOWLERS DESERVE A HUGE STANDING OVATION 👍👍👍

[@alexomc1667]

Last ball from the roll off and you can’t even see it 😂

[@someguy2135]

That was the only disappointing thing about watching this.

[@jblikesmen]

Ziesig beat the 2 best bowlers of all time back to back. Well deserved

[@nikitafilatov2319]

Belmo wasn't the best that time.

[@jamesbruzgis9476]

I was there! Long Island baby!

[@jedziegler1538]

Watching the tournament named after him in honor of Mark Roth today RIP

[@michaelkowalske1127]

I love using plastic balls I recently rolled my first sanctioned 300 with a purple tint clear rose plastic ball

[@Nerfgeek-ig1cy]

Wow, i havent hit my 300 game yet

[@GamingBelladonna229]

Ziesig’s daughter in the crowd is so cute when she’s rooting for her dad 😊

[@louiscsanko3673]

MARK ROTH=LEGEND

[@TheDirtyDetector]

He played in king pin

[@tonyr8443]

Real test in bowling skills, plastic ball bowling

[@NateCraven318]

I can hook a house ball pretty well, I just need to really roll off the side and lower the ball speed.

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

How? It strikes a ton if you're semi accurate and if you miss it's highly likely a single pin spare

[@krisherdown]

Nerves of steel. Got lucky at the end of his first match but stepped up at the very end.

[@lukusbequiet117]

Amazing, His son Kyle is in my Junior league. Brian is extremely nice and very good.

[@chriskelly509]

Need more plastic ball tournaments

[@iamwhatiam6075]

Love these. Need a golf tourney with the same clubs and tennis tourney with same racquets. Even if exhibition so they don't screw up their rankings. Be fun to watch and a true test of talent.

[@SweetTeeBag]

I have to say I just noticed this at 20:45. Machuga had sponsorship from both Storm and Brunswick on his jersey? Isn't that a conflict of interest?

[@jacobkaplan2798]

Boy belmo use to be a POWER player now in his older days he uses a lot more finesse and slower speeds. Crazy to see 22 mph 600+ revs in his younger days.

[@iconredesign]

He still does hat from time to time. Early on like you see here, he’s basically throwing a Norm Duke frozen rope and piping it at the 1-3 with twice the revs, but by circling the lane, he’s getting better entry angles for just the few extra pins that rocketed his career to outer space.

[@hunt4gs]

RIP Mark.

[@rishiaman2]

???

[@joejohn6987]

R.I.P. Mark Roth

[@SS--CAL]

Great bowling.

[@miiigoreng]

Impressive to watch plastic balls rolled at high levels, not just for spares

[@LeoThePrezPretlo]

Why they Local tv channels don't show bowling any more like in the 70s and 80s?

[@iOSandroid1]

Can someone explain about Storm and Brunswick logo on Mike Machuga’s tee?

[@iconredesign]

Sorawith He’s a free agent at the time I believe

[@AlBundy16]

I watched for 1:32:32, to watch some guy stand up and miss the clutch winning strike!!

[@rishiaman2]

ikr

[@chandlerb6728]

1:31:50 Stone 7 pin

[@skiprockjr.6881]

Being an amateur and beating Walter Ray Williams, Jr., and Jason Belmonte to win a title is Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson territory.

[@mpup54]

The PBA has ruined its image since then. Straight stepladder finals, nothing fancy. 4 games, title.

[@Krranski]

These shots seem to have a lot of hook on them with not even necessarily huge rev rate players (with obvious exceptions). Were they allowed to add grit to their balls? Seems like it would defeat the purpose if so, but would also be hard to enforce.

[@jibbernuts]

Matthew only half the normal oil volume was used and on a 43 foot pattern, the mids will break down pretty fast. Plastic will carry the oil from the mids to the back so the balls will begin hooking earlier as the day goes on. They can add grit if they want but playing that deep inside, it wouldn't help

[@Krranski]

@@jibbernuts Fair point, now that you mention the mids being dry and the carrydown, I recall this happening from my days in collegiate bowling when a few teams we played against intentionally did this to lower the scoring pace and confuse/frustrate the opposing teams following them on that pair. They still played a pretty direct line to the pocket, not daring to angle away from the headpin much, if at all. But still, it seemed like we started seeing the mids hook from the first few shots in the telecast, on what I assume was a a fresh application.

[@rishiaman2]

1:32:36 WHY

[@sportsfntc]

RIP Mark Roth

[@thomasmccarrick4169]

I feel like with the resurrection of urethane, we need a reactive reason championship

[@Bruh-qr9sy]

We need a new camera man lmao

[@suburbanhomejustin]

Lol fr some of the angles in the 2000s were horrible. Watch some of Danny Wiseman's shots, hes basically blocking the camera LOL

[@pamelacass9642]

No sound the last game. ;-(

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

Wrong

[@williamzander4732]

That two handed toss is weird but it works .Dont drill out the thumb tournament will be next .

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

🤡

[@inteRUSSting]

Garber's approach; If Lerch was on the PBA tour. 11:32

[@terminat1]

Lurch.

[@seanhawkins6727]

It's awful to watch

[@bobby_c7671]

I think its amazing. Im pretty sure hes had major back surgery and 2 knee replacements. Good for him!!!

[@andrewphillips2179]

there were some exciting finishes in the 1st, semi final, and title matches in the Geico Mark Roth Plastic Ball Championship

[@andrewphillips2179]

Walter Ray Williams Jr and Wayne Garber have bowled some excellent matches

[@bobcarty1433]

I would rather have the time of plastic and rubber. A 300 was a big deal because it didn't happen very often. When reactive balls came out it made a lot of bowlers better then they actually were. Now a 800 series brings a yawn because so many are throwing them.

[@railroad9929]

Biggest shot of the tournament, and all we see is the back of somebody's head.

[@linda1lee2]

See amazing flop at 15:30.

[@douglasharris5216]

Linda Lee ?

[@linda1lee2]

​@@douglasharris5216 The first showing of this deliberate flop actually started at 15:45.

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

@@linda1lee2 it was shown in the telecast that it actually happened on...

[@pamelacass9642]

It's a good little tournament. Leave Mallot out of it, since he whined so much.

[@brandonwilliams5563]

William's revenge on garber!

[@bobby_c7671]

I heard that Machuga was one of the most arrogant guys on the circuit. Can anyone confirm or deny it? Just curious....

[@Greg780]

I don’t know. I heard that he was one of the most vocal in condemning two-handed bowling as not being real bowling when Belmonte and Palermaa first came out on tour. Maybe it’s just rumors.

[@deborahnewman3390]

schematic

[@guitarzan5328]

Garber has the worst pre-shot routine and approach I have ever seen. How many steps did he take, eleven?? That's more than twice the standard, almost triple! But I guess if it works for him... 🤷

[@bowl4u]

I think they said he had a double knee replacement,,,,

[@mr.c1563]

Bowling used to be challenging. Now kids in junior league are throwing 300. That was almost unheard of back in the days of real wooden lanes and rubber balls. Technology once again ruining sports.

[@Ct-ml2ug]

Mr. C Technology getting better, and higher scores being bowled is ruining the sport? Cmon man accept change

[@mutated__donkey5840]

Someone’s salty that they’re bad at bowling with new technology

[@Joeyd123abc2]

ok boomer

[@jhamlin726]

Go cry elsewhere.

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

Boomer alert

[@ronaldleehorton5822]

This is shit . It's about hand and speed!

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

Learn how to bowl