200R4 vs. 700R4

Mad Dog Lou from Mad Dog Transmissions talks about the difference between a 200R4 and 700R4!

[@416shovel]

As soon as a shop owner calls it a 200R4, they've lost all credibility.

[@abolishwelfare]

theginacologist ... I thought the exact same thing. Art Carr built my 85 Monte Carlo SS’s 200 4r and I’ll put that up against anything this guy builds.

[@416shovel]

@Chris L Fake news. Yeah Rookie... that's me alright. gearstar.com/200-4r-transmission-the-holy-grail-of-power-fuel-efficiency

[@CrOmeBlueM1]

I made a comment about this on another of his videos and the channel owner posted a strike against me... all I did was speak the truth... must be some real honest people at this business.

[@terrencesmith7158]

🤣😅🤣

[@tequilamockingbird758]

Motorcycle?

[@alostorder]

200-4R's are absolutely NOT junk. Buy the performance rebuild kit and change the governor springs. Can be built stronger than the 700r4 and it does not cost that much money. I bought all my own parts and had a transmission shop install it and it will hold up to 500 plus horsepower.

[@ThePolomanking]

the 2004r is better than the 700r4 better gear spread, 2004r can handle more just check out extreme automatics they make the best 2004r in the country

[@PimpCoop]

This guy is blowing smoke up are butts!!! There is nothing wrong with a 200r4. The 700r4 and 200r4 are basically the same with little differences here and there. They cost about the same to do a good build of a 200r4 as a good 700r4. There are tons of guys with knowledge of how to build a 2004r. Just look at the Grand National guys or any gbody (Monte Carlo ss, El Camino, Malbiu ect..) a good amount use a 2004r trannies. Also the gears are better in a 200r4. Do some research and exit video NOW

[@gtsdesigns]

great info for those with Gbodys and 200r4s

[@noname_2465]

Got an 87 trans am with a 350 making about 350 horsepower bought a used 700r4 that i know is good but it is stock. What kind of upgrades can i do on a budget for this transmission to shift nice and be reliable behind 350 horsepower. The trans is stock designed for stock engine which in 1987 was a 305 making about 210 horsepower if even that

[@joefierro1872]

how you guys doing I just bought a 84 El Camino I need to identify my transmission I was told it's a 200r4 how can I identify it

[@vortecturbo]

Hey bud its a 2004r transmission btw it will Handle way more then a 700r4 when built

[@b.c6015]

Daniel's Speed and Performance monster transmission have a 1000hp/tq 700r4 and you say what to this?

[@abolishwelfare]

B.C .... I say call Art Carr or Extreme Automatics and they’ll both build 1,000 hp 200 4r’s.

[@jacktiller2308]

Love your yellow Vette

[@turtlesurfer29]

So glad I'm going with the 700r4! It will be in tomorrow..

[@atlride1]

Lou didnt want to work with me on my rebuild I call them like 4 or 5 times about the converter , that came with my level # 3 rebuild it was a bad converter , they told me I had to buy a new one . WHAT ??? so what do I do with the converter that I paid for, and how come they couldnt give me the right one for my set up.

[@davidmoore8741]

My 200r4 takes trans brake hits with the green tci fluid and a monster cooler and a manual electric lock up, had it singing to 8800 rpm with 411 gears in my 85 Monte ss. Reverse valve body aswell. Thing is a tank

[@jacktiller2308]

Love your yellow Vet

[@raheemhodges1881]

I have a 1984 Buick Regal 3.8 V6. It currently has the TH250C transmission 3speed no over drive, if I did my research right. I did a little more digging and saw that the 200r4 and the 700r4 is quite popular. I'm interested in putting either a for better gas mileage. Would either of these transmissions fit my V6? If so, what would be a good choice, the 200r4 or 700r4.

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello Raheem, go with the 700R4 a much better trouble free transmission. Call us at 770-781-0949 Maddogtransmissions.

[@Rusty_trombone62]

Unfortunately us Grand National guys are stuck with the 200r4 between the BRF valve body and the risk of dropping off boost. And having to replace the driveshaft. But I wanted a 700 it was just too risky but I got a stage 2 200r4 built 15 years ago and she still pulls hard even with a transbrake and 3400 stall converter. It broke me for months but well worth it. I didn’t know about you guys back then but I’m sure y’all build a great Turbo Regal transmission. If I ever need another build I’ll definitely contact y’all.

[@maddogtransmissions3125]

Thank you for your comment. We appreciate your interest in our transmissions and look forward to building you a bullet proof unit in the future should the need arise. Mad Dog Transmissions 770-781-0949

[@thangamajig]

If you go with the 700 r, you can run a 4:11 rear and the big stretch between 1 and 2 won't be as noticeable. A fella I know says the rpms at 65 mph is right around 2 grand.

[@theguywiththemost5330]

What's up Maddog. question. I have a Chevy 454 ss pick up. and it comes with a t400 tranny. I currently have it in the shop. and I'm undecided on which I want to put. either the 700 or the 200. I need my truck to swing and hit some corners hard. I love burning rubber. and feel the speed on the freeway. so which one would you recommend? thanks for the time

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello Antonio, go with the 700R4 all day long!!! Give us a call if you like 770-781-0949 Thanks MADDOGLOU.

[@crawford323]

I have a 1973 Corvette big block with a 3 speed automatic. I am not a racer but the high rpm at highway speeds with this wonderful engine is less than enjoyable and affordable. I have seen 200's placed in this c3 body but are there other options?

[@maddogtransmissions3125]

I would go with the 700R4. It's a much better build

[@TenThirtyTwo]

My v6 was in a 81 monte carlo and they put a 350 with a lockup converter on it instead of the 200r4. Why?

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello boss man, Please contact us for a professional consultation regarding your needs. If you prefer, we can call you personally, just e-mail us your phone number. You can call us, Monday through Sunday from 8 AM to 10 PM Eastern standard time, you will always get a live person. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone]

[@stephaniedouglas579]

Hey I drive a 79 Chevy Monte Carlo with a 200r4 recently got flooded and blown. I got my hands on a 700R4 how much work am I look at swap them out a lot of people tell me the crossmember the drive shaft in a flywheel. will I have to change all this

[@MichelLinschoten]

Don't think so they are almost identical

[@outlawtranny]

Thank you 1034 RWHP!!! super chareged with NOS!!!

[@foggiapainting]

Hello there Mad Dog. My 200r4 is slipping only when I floor it from 50 mph on up. If im going up an on-ramp my 283 will almost redline. What could this be?

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello R Sanchez, sounds like 4 gear is going out.Please contact us for a professional consultation regarding your needs You can call us and talk to a live person. Up until　10 PM　Eastern standard time ,　Monday　through　Sunday. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone　[phone]

[@kenlawrence5898]

Are the physical dimensions the same between the two?

[@stevrosssmearu5293]

hey looking at an 86 bonneville 305 v-8 only has 78000KMs on it pretty sure it has a 200r4 its a nice car and want to buy it but since its probably sat around alot do you think theres a lot of time left in it in normal driving thanks

[@maddogtransmissions3125]

It's really hard to say. I would be sure to find out how often and what kind of maintenance was done on it by previous owner. 78,000 miles is not a lot of miles at all considering it is a 1986. Yes, vehicles that sat for a lot of time do tend to have some build up. As far as the transmission is concerned if the fluid is still clean then they have more than likely kept up the maintenance. If regular maintenance was not done on a regular basis, we do not recommend that you change or flush the fluid. That will cause all of the old fluid to mix with the new detergent fluid and the material will come off of the clutches and bands and cause the transmission to fail. You can give us a call if you have more questions or need a better understanding, we are available until about 9-10 PM Eastern every night to answer your call. Mad Dog Transmissions 770-781-0949

[@curtthompson2787]

What about the 200'4R?

[@ChrisFrunkEDI]

Will a 200r4 be a direct fit to replace my 700r4 in my 89 Astor van 4.3l ?

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello Chris, just modify crossmamber. My Shop Phone is 770-781-0949 Maddogtransmissions.

[@oldstyleanalog6459]

thank u for ur valuable info.lesson learned on 4 of ur videos.u know what's up.any automatic tranny u recommend on rotary engine??

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello Ruben, we are in Atlanta GA 770-781-0949 thanks MaddogLOU.

[@ChrisFrunkEDI]

will a 460le be a direct replacement for my 700r4 in my 89 astro?any mods needed?

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello chris, the 4L60E will require a computer for it to shift get a 1994 or 95 4L60E, and it will bolt right up. You can call us, Monday through Sunday from 8 AM to 10 PM Eastern standard time, you will always get a live person. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone]

[@DonutGuard]

About how much space does an adapter plate add, and does adding one require any modification to the engine mounts and/or transmission mounting points? I'm putting a Pontiac 400 into a Third Gen Firebird.

[@outlawtranny]

Hello DonutGuard, call this number 1-800-350-2223. You can call us and talk to a live person. Up until 10 PM Eastern standard time , Monday through Sunday. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone]

[@christophercruz6131]

What better for my 68 chevelle inline 6 250 2004r or a 700r4 I don't want to used my powerglide transmission anymore

[@maddogtransmissions3125]

In my opinion a 700R4 would be better. There are a lot more aftermarket updates to accommodate horsepower.

[@cyrusvirus6928]

2004r is the same length as a powerglide and th350. Then find out if they make a tv cable geometry corrector bracket for your carb. Make sure tc is installed correctly and line pressures are good. Mine has an adjustable vacuum switch for the lock up and it’s great. You should install a temp gauge for it also.

[@codered5431]

But if money didnt matter. Which is better. Best build hi Qualitybuilds on both. Wich is better

[@stevesolo16]

Can a fully built 200r4 handle 800-900hp? Can that same trans handle a transbrake?

[@teeharris1493]

Steve Solo

[@teeharris1493]

Steve Solo yes a properly built 200 can handle 900 fly wheel horsepower and 850 ftlbs torque. I have a grand national that's been doing this for at least 100 passes.

[@williampalmer4739]

how much would it cost to build a 700 R4 to hold 650-700 horse

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello William, go with my L-4,700R4 on sale for $1695.00. Please contact us for a professional consultation regarding your needs. If you prefer, we can call you personally, just e-mail us your phone number. You can call us and talk to a live person. Up until 10 PM Eastern standard time , Monday through Sunday we can take your order over the phone. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone]

[@raheem8858]

Will a 700r4 mount up to a 84 Buick Regal 3.8 v6?

[@MadDogTransmissions]

Hello Raheem, you will need an adapter plate well worth it. Call us at 770-781-0949 at Maddogtransmissions.

[@1983samgonzalez]

I have a 83 oldsmobile cutlass supreme v6 3.8 I have been looking it up and will be doing a 700r4 conversation just for the overdrive I have a 200 and it's a 3 speed no overdrive kills me on the freeway and long drives I hate it I like low and slow but I want overdrive

[@enricogates5129]

if my cam is 510 lift what size stall do I need

[@MadDogTransmissions]

If it is a big block go with 2500 stall if it is a small block go with a 2800 to 3000 stall. Please contact us for a professional consultation regarding your needs. If you prefer, we can call you personally, just e-mail us your phone number. You can call us, Monday through Sunday from 8 AM to 10 PM Eastern standard time, you will always get a live person. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone]

[@jeffmathis3224]

+Lou Koulouvaris hea bro love your vidz.will the 700r4 work good for my 1987 monty SS?

[@MadDogTransmissions]

@turtlesurfer29 The 700R4 is the way to go much longer and have to price of a 200R4 we even converted them on the Buick grand nationals they had the same concern but love the in result Go 700R4. If you prefer, we can call you personally, just e-mail us your phone number. All our transmissions are very strong and reliable, and can be used for everyday driving. Extended warranties are also available. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone] Fax [phone]

[@ThePolomanking]

I have 2 monte carlo s a 87ss real ss with posi and stock 2004r I love this trans. also a 83 ls with a turbo 350 in the future I will be purchaseing a stage 1 2004r from extreme automatics. but my stock 2004r shifts and runs perfect gonna put away my future engine after the 350 is a orginal 400 that runs perfect im going to do a performace build on. only trans that will every go in my ss is the 200r4 they can be built to handle a 1000 hp plenty for most builds just my 2 cents

[@thomaswild9044]

+ThePolomanking , I went with your recommendation to go with the 22r4 for my old GTO. I just hope I'll be able to handle that tv cable stuff

[@MadDogTransmissions]

+thomas wild It's a piece of cake. If you have any questions just give us a call 770-781-0949. If you prefer, we can call you personally, just e-mail us your phone number. You can call us, Monday through Sunday from 8 AM to 10 PM Eastern standard time. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone]

[@UnderDog2V]

What's the name of the song playing in the background?

[@orielvalenzuela4403]

Walk in the Park - Sound Providers

[@khanta7769]

Don't know what he's talking about the 200 being a problem child? I think its quite the opposite, I never had a good experience with a 700 unit, in my opinion unless you're doing serious modifications to it the 700's are only good for vans and truck applications. More importantly he never addresses the question about the huge ratio drop between 1st and 2nd gear on the 700's, do you change that to a closer ratio? instead he only talks about making the tail and cross members fit. There's a thousand kits available for those conversions.

[@leam1966]

700 and 4l60 they have the 2:84 first just do that

[@1959nickd]

2004r not r4

[@trlprk]

This guy saying the 700 is better so that he can hoard all the 200-4r’s.

[@maddogtransmissions3125]

we don't even built the 2004R's.

[@MadDogTransmissions]

The 700R4 is the way to go much longer and have to price of a 200R4 we even converted them on the Buick grand nationals they had the same concern but love the in result Go 700R4. If you prefer, we can call you personally, just e-mail us your phone number. All our transmissions are very strong and reliable, and can be used for everyday driving. Extended warranties are also available. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone] Fax [phone]

[@punch_bowl_turd3005]

aside from price i understand the 200 to be a far superior trans.

[@cras.shockey1911]

You do not even know what the transmission is. It is a 200 4 r

[@thomasjefferson5727]

To all you nay sayers, start a shop, get recognition for your work, then go on youtube and refute this guys claim. If not, youre just a 15 year old 200r fan boy throwing keywords around.

[@angelcuriel4257]

700r4 are not that strong they only weigh about 125lbs 400hp max shift kit causes planets to brake sparg give they are good performers dont expect a warranty iether

[@MadDogTransmissions]

If you ever have any questions don't hesitate to call or e-mail us. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone] Fax [phone]

[@MadDogTransmissions]

@DukeNukem65 If you prefer, we can call you personally, just e-mail us your phone number. All our transmissions are very strong and reliable, and can be used for everyday driving. Extended warranties are also available. Thank You, "Mad Dog" Lou Mad Dog Transmissions Phone [phone] Fax [phone]

[@dafontenot]

This guy is reading from a piece of paper in front of his computer. What a fake.

[@MichelLinschoten]

He is not fake they are located in Alpharetta, GA, . HOWEVER they are expensive...

[@jonalarcon8564]

700 R4 is crap

[@davidlayton542]

I had a 87 MC SS and the 200 blew all the time. I hate that transmission.