2010 General election announced

[@doublebanana-de3dt]

What a treasure of a clip! Thank you for recording and keeping and sharing this!

[@GROMIT9]

The beginning of the next 13 years of chaos where we've ended up with 5 Tory Prime Ministers, 4 General Elections (including this one) an EU Referendum, the Covid Pandemic, the Cost of Living Crisis, the War in Ukraine, The Death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the second oh and the small matter of the ongoing Partygate scandal as well.

[@i__p]

Just to give a more neutral perspective- you cannot really blame Cameron or Tories for the fact that pandemic or War in Ukraine happened or the Queen died.

[@carlingblacklabel2864]

No fan of Tories or Cameron but it was hardly utopia before 2010, 2008 financial crisis, 7/7, Iraq war, 9/11, Kosovo, Bosnia, the Troubles, Thatcher, unemployment etc

[@GROMIT9]

@@i__p Unfrotnatly you can with the Pandemic because during that along came Partygate, War in Ukraine sparked the Cost of Living crisis and well, The Queen passing away happened during the shortest tenue for a PM (Liz Truss) on record so yes it does trace back to them actually.

[@jaexiusnem1267]

There’s also the wider non partygate Tory scandals which have consistently dominated the news & feel like they’ve been scheduled weekly over the past 3 years. And now there’s also the Palestine & Israel conflict to add to the long list of chaos.

[@louisbeerreviews8964]

14 years

[@RickPeake01]

And yet look at the state of the UK today... thanks to you guys. Bravo... 🎉

[@swire6984]

The fact people blame Labour for government policy of the last 14 years is pretty funny

[@RickPeake01]

@@swire6984 I understand why too... the last 14 years were tory just taking over where Labour left off... both parties are exactly the same coin... just different sides...

[@swire6984]

@@RickPeake01 definitely not… labour delivered much more substantive change than the tories under blair and brown

[@RickPeake01]

@swire6984 well Sir Starmer isn't Blair nor is he Brown, but he is a supporter and facilitator of cover ups just as Blair and brown were , not much change there,so know this, be them tory or Labour, both are just different faces of the same coin.

[@TomJohnson67]

55:06 He never said it would be good change, so I suppose he was right in a way.

[@universalthinker3807]

14 years later and the UK is in tatters, everything is broken and people (normal people) are the one's that have suffered the most. This Tory government that Cameron started with his austerity has been a cancerous tumour that's grown and now you see the end game everyday in this country.

[@A_Red_December]

How nice it was that politicians could talk outside without being heckled or assaulted. Lots of people complaining on here, but we get the politicians we deserve.

[@idiotsloveboxes]

28:53 The prime minister visited regular people in their homes! That’s so lovely. How’d that go?

[@applemask]

The last of England

[@Da1Dez]

The beginning of the end....

[@martindavis6115]

Had it been briefed in advance that Gordon Brown would be announcing the election on this date or did the announcent come out of the blue as was the case with Theresa May's announcement some 7 years later?

[@DBIVUK]

It was pretty much the last possible moment - the previous election was 5 May 2005. Once Brown had rejected an early election, the economic crash and the expenses scandal pretty much ruled out going any earlier.

[@martindavis6115]

​​@@DBIVUKThanks for your response

[@Da1Dez]

​​@@DBIVUKI thought Sunak was going to do similar thing, an unexpected decision to go for July.

[@ciaranmarsh255]

@@DBIVUK3 June 2010 was the last possible date

[@jamesgill8854]

Some interesting commentary circa 41:00 from the late Simon Hoggart re unexpected turning points in elections (he references the Sheffield rally in the 1992 election). I wonder how much Labour were impacted by Gordon Brown calling Gillian Duffy a “bigoted woman”. Had that mishap now happened, might Labour have gained more seats to put them in greater contention to form a coalition govt? (I think the odds on Labour winning outright in 2010 was always low). Open question.

[@joecurran2811]

I don't think it made that much difference tbh

[@beneaves8413]

Why do they have to call it I thought it is set in stone for the May like the next one (May 2029) after the 5 years

[@beneaves8413]

Didn’t know he had to call this one I thought it was already set to be 5 years after the last one

[@DBIVUK]

The five year limit applies to the length of a Parliament rather than the gap between elections. Had Brown not called an election, Parliament would have been dissolved on Tuesday 11 May 2010, and a general election held on 3 June. But local elections were happening on 6 May in many parts of England so Brown preferred to combine them with the general election.

[@beneaves8413]

@@DBIVUK can you explain more please? As I don’t understand the parliament time thing

[@beneaves8413]

So when did this 2024 parliament start? And when does it end if Stramer doesn’t call a election

[@DBIVUK]

@@beneaves8413 A general election happens so that it can choose the members of a new Parliament. When a new Parliament is summoned (see page 4 here privycouncil.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/2024-05-30-List-of-Business.pdf ), the date of its meeting is named; polling day in the election is set by the law so as to meet that date. The main thing that happens on the day a new Parliament is summoned is election of the Speaker. The Parliament Act 1911 then says that any Parliament will be dissolved automatically five years after it was summoned, so the Parliament summoned for 11 May 2005 would have been dissolved on 11 May 2010. The present Parliament was summoned to meet on 9 July 2024 so will be dissolved on 9 July 2029 if the King has not done so before then.

[@BossySwan]

Gordon Frown

[@tommiatkins3443]

Ahh...look at how great we are now after 13 years of Tories. The nation is United, safe, prosperous, kind, free of corruption and has had steady stable hands at the helm , driving us to the pinnacle of our global standing. Three cheers for Farage and Johnson! You have turned out country around and we can never go back to the hellscape of 2010.

[@Britonmapping]

What planet are you one?

[@applemask]

@@Britonmapping Planet sarcasm, I think. No other explanation makes sense.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

Farage had little to do with it.

[@GROMIT9]

@@johnnotrealname8168 He had everything to do with it! (re the referendum anyway!)

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@GROMIT9 Well obviously the referendum but he himself said Brexit has failed because his brand of it has not been implemented.

[@lc0597]

59:02

[@PeterRIGBY08]

I really liked Gordon Brown but he should’ve stayed as chancellor. Had Blair, stayed on for a fourth term, he’d have won it easily.

[@Trippeak]

😂

[@jameskvo]

War criminals rarely stay in office in democracies.

[@owentill]

I don’t know about that. Blair by this point had his fair share of Iraq war electoral issues, I think he’d have lost considering Iraq and the Great Recession but I do get your point, Brown was not the campaigner Blair was.

[@ciaranmarsh255]

@@Trippeak not funny

[@Trippeak]

@@ciaranmarsh255 🤣

[@beneaves8413]

Why do they have to call it I thought it is set in stone for the May like the next one (May 2029) after the 5 years

[@kimberley3813]

It was only set in stone while the Fixed Term Parliaments Act of 2011 was law, for the first Thursday in May of the fifth year after the previous election (the fourth year if the prior election had been held before the first Thursday in May, as to make it the fifth would have taken a parliament past 5 years.) However the 2015 election was the only election held on the date scheduled under that act; Theresa May called the 2017 election under a provision within it that stated that parliament would be dissolved early if two thirds of MPs voted in favour (this required 434 MPs, even more than Blair had in 1997.) In 2019, Boris Johnson (advised to do such by Dominic Cummings I believe) passed a bill stating that an election should be held not withstanding the provisions of the FTPA. That, as with any other change of law required only a simple majority, and it didn’t matter how many MPs abstained. Once that was done, the act was a waste of time as it could just be circumvented (fairer though I believe it was, even though the coalition’s primary intent had been to make it very difficult for an early election to be called unless both sides agreed on that) and Johnson’s administration repealed it.