2012 Yamaha R1 vs Yamaha R6 Test

[@cyclebeats69]

2019, these bikes are still sexy AF!

[@anthonydelgado2017]

CycleBeats damn right!

[@broscience4676]

@mister clean yep 2012 r6 moto edition myself just bought

[@futureofcarstube]

1999-2002 R6 is still sexy

[@insrtclevrnamehere]

who the hell has dirt at the entrance of a bike track?

[@devalkify]

@@Dranreb865 This is South-Africa not Europe....

[@maximilian1512]

@@devalkify you get the N pass

[@asheed5689]

@@maximilian1512 thanks nigga

[@ronwhite8503]

That explains the kph instead of mph...... bye.

[@johnathandoerty1021]

People who want to see riders slide their bike(s) into a wall... Better get MACO...

[@WiseFoolTrades]

When you took that helmet off I was expecting someone half your age!

[@girisagar64]

Wise Fool like a girl without makeuo

[@WiseFoolTrades]

sagar giri You're Nepalese right? I am too! Well by blood anyway haha

[@girisagar64]

Wise Fool brother was not expected that lol, jay nepal

[@WiseFoolTrades]

sagar giri Do you live in Nepal?

[@stejeranis]

That's experience my brother.

[@josephliptak]

I rode my R1 until I was 55 years old then sold it because my skill level wasn't as good as it was in my 20s. Nothing like the brute force power of an R1 banging thru the gears. I sure miss her and I've been getting the itch at 61 years of age to go out and buy another one even if I only park it in the living room and look at it while drinking beer on a recliner.

[@elca2475]

Did you get it?

[@hasandelgado7237]

Awesome man

[@Frank-sk7xb]

I am well over 60 now but would never give it up! Waiting for something faster to come out now!😊

[@fourrides3242]

Everyone here is family let’s goooooo!!!! The Yamaha sportbike squad!!! R6 R1?? Both baby!! Yamaha vs everyone !!

[@E85-M54-Power]

600 handles better and lighter around the tracks against a Liter bike.600 is more than enough for anything except drag, where the R1 will kill it. Bigger engine always wins in a straight line. I heard of people saying that there modified R6 is faster than the a stock R1, don't listen to that crap...big motor...big power.

[@Ihelpanytime]

600s handle easier but never faster lap times than a 1000... In fact, these vids on yt you see 600s passing litre bikes in the track is because the 1000cc rider is shitty, if a 1000 was ridden 100% and a 600 was ridden 100%, 1000s will always set faster lap times because they eat the straights. There is a big difference in the straight line between 1000s and 600s, but a small gap between 600s and 1000s around turns.

[@lancealbon46]

Sheridan Marais raced the 600cc Kawasaki and the 1000cc Kawasaki in the same year in the South African Championships a couple years back. He won both Championships that year. At Zwartkops race track outside Pretoria, which is a very tight track and well suited to the 600cc bikes, he was still faster on the 1000cc bike. Sheridan came 3rd in last years World SuperSport Championship on the Yamaha R6, so he's a very capable rider. So a racer with his skill, on both the 600cc and 1000cc bikes on the same "tight" track (not one with long straights to favor the bigger 1000cc bike) proved without a doubt that the 1000cc will be faster than a 600cc - period! However, take a good rider on the 600cc vs an average guy on a 1000cc and the results will be different with the 600cc winning. I've ridden both and find the 1000cc bike the better bike for me. Although currently I'm riding an 08' Kawasaki Z750 but I deeply regret selling my '05 Honda CBR1000RR which I bought new and sold after 40,000km ... having done track days on 5 different race tracks in South Africa, the Blade was epic!

[@raynic1173]

What were the lap time differences between the R6 and the R1???

[@raynic1173]

@mister clean did ask for probabilities, facts son, facts.

[@LudaWhis]

I upgraded from a 2000 Honda CBR F4 (which I loved) to a 2003 Yamaha R1 recently and I freaking love it, I have no issue with the weight it feels just a little heavier than my CBR and the power is AMAZING....great great bike.

[@americanwriter2533]

I have 2020 R6 & have just received 2022 R1 60th Anniversary Moto GP edition...Incredible machines! The R1 blew my mind!! All the best from the USA!🤩🇺🇸👍

[@REM44MAG]

The R6 has such a beautiful engine sound when opening it up with a full headers & carbon fiber canister exhaust. I'd go as far has to say it is the best sounding sportbike period. 600s are like the two strokes of the sportbike arena, you just can't live without that sound.

[@nickr2795]

Absolutely I’ve just bought a 2004 r6 yoshimura sings up to 16,000rpm

[@Roza_lifestyle]

one of the best videos on r6 and r1 out there! THANKS!!!

[@julionica]

7:07 the exact same thing I said when getting my R6, the R1 intimidates me for some reason, I have respect for the power any sportbike has. It's what keeps me alive I guess

[@arcadeclubaustralia5601]

Excellent video, excellent test, excellent comparison, Thank you.

[@PacoConfu71]

For my size, I would take the R1. Definitely more power than I need and will ever use, but the size works for me. Plus, add on the Toce exhaust system and you have one very awesome looking AND sounding bike!!

[@ИгроТестер-г7и]

ок бери р1 за 9000 евро

[@brandoloudly9457]

did you ever get an r1?

[@glock1inthetop45]

They the same size tho physically the r1 is heavier

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

they feel the same size tbh

[@robertoguarin4692]

​@@glock1inthetop45no son del mismo tamaño la r1 del 2012 al 2014 es de 830mm de altura la r6 es de 850mm sin contar que la r6 es más gorda y se dificulta más la llegada al piso para bajas estaturas

[@StefanKingdom]

Who said old guys can't ride a Sport Bike?

[@skarlatospanagiotis5000]

ΜΕ

[@fornicateu2]

@@skarlatospanagiotis5000 You'd be wrong then.

[@johntiedeman5264]

Stefan King im 58 and i have 1100s monster

[@voertsek8404]

I’m 59 Got a 2017 BMW 1000 RR & 2017 Honda 1000 SP2 . Kiss my Ass Suckers.

[@racingspirit272]

@@johntiedeman5264 I m 789 and I have nothing

[@TommyTwowheels]

I was going to go with the R6 but the reason I chose the R1 was the low end torque and not having to wind it up for the power like with the R6. Both are excellent bikes, though.

[@goku_killinit1179]

R6 with full exhaust system and power commander and im happy

[@SteveEberhardtr646]

the r6 n r1 are both amazing machines. I own a 05 rossi r6 and the thing dominates on mountain roads but with predictable power. The r1 is faster in a straight line for sure but my r6 on curves is puts a smile on my dial without the scary risk of crashing out one a bigger bike.I'm an older rider that likes to ride fast but safely. You young guys can have the short lived glory of bigger bikes n best lap times.

[@rickcontreras59]

Thank you that was up and close great information about both bikes the R1 and R6

[@MrWTFblackscreen]

Like Top Gear, but for bikes

[@fasihrai2900]

Hi

[@carl7249]

No brainer, both more fun than the wife! My neighbour may disagree!

[@seanmoore4653]

your neighbour has had ur wife then

[@niro56]

@@seanmoore4653 OP doesn't care because he's sure even if it did happen the neighbor wasn't happy with that either..

[@fionnfalk2681]

LOL

[@verdeboyo]

was hoping to pick up a used 2007 this weekend. Ive owned all the versions, except the new from 2009, and trust me they are all crazy fast. 2nd gear power wheelies are the norm! If you've never owned or ridden one - do it in this life time!

[@MaximIsABoss]

I started on the r6 a few years back when I was 16 and never had a problem. Never even got a speeding ticket yet! I agree that you should start on a bike you're more comfortable with, but I'm 6'4 and wanted to still get some power wheelies in :D

[@csplmr]

I'm a long time street superbiker & I rode a ninja 600 back in 1988. Anyway over the years I have had many bikes. And even though I am 6'1 I love the 600's for the handling & control, I can slide my R6 all over, and just feel so confident, I like going through the gears all the time to, makes it fun to ride.

[@andrear629]

Love Yamaha!❤ After many years, are still amazing!😍

[@dullen87]

Almost any decent bike does 0-100 in about 3-4 seconds, what matters after is the extra HP / Weight mostly.

[@BennyKeung4375]

Dulf Nordensvärd you can accelerate from 0-100 kph under 3 seconds if you have the technic,you just don't have the technic

[@Ihelpanytime]

Dulf Nordensvärd 600s: 0-200 in 9s, and 0-280 km/h in over 30 seconds. 1000s: 0-200 under 7s, and 0-300 km/h in under 18 seconds. 1000 >>>>>>>>>>>> 600

[@seaviper2738]

The main reason why I prefer the 1000 (despite being only 5 foot 7 & weighing around 140 lbs) is coz not having the capability to really push them is a buzz for me. I am still learning a couple of years after jumping up. I respect this thing & that makes me a safer rider. The litre still handles more or less as well it's just the torque that's scary (but fun at the same time). It takes a bit of getting used to but you'll soon find yourself never looking back. 600's are perfect track bikes imo

[@firebladegrowler2886]

The 600 class handles noticeably better but that's obvious. The difference with the litre is that the power kicks in way lower down. It's a completely different way of riding compared to the 600. Takes allot more getting used to. I prefer the litre. The extra torque makes it more bearable when riding through towns/cities and it's challenging to ride fast.

[@PWD65]

Exactly, when the 09 came out I really didn't like it, but now I absolutely love the way they look from 09 onwards.

[@3h0xr0]

This is the most awesome bike I ever had, love the big bang. And btw, Red Star in SA rocks too, wish i could fly down there every year

[@antonstanev6810]

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[@JordamusPrime]

I have a 2012 R6 and I love it! People say its shitty for road riding but I say it's fine. I have multiple friends with all sizes of the big 4 manufacturers and a few that ride Ducatis. We all agree that they are all superb works of art but all also have drawbacks. It comes down to preference. I'm 5'7" and weigh 150 so a R6 is perfect but my friend is 6'0" and weighs 230 and his CBR 929 is perfect for him. It's all what ya like. All are great bikes though and I'm just happy to have one!

[@さおり-i4u]

1:26 when you try to imitate alien voice on table fan

[@animexsenpai7909]

須田みずほ yes

[@ItsSneakyBeaky]

Who dislikes the bug eyes look of the R1? R6 all the way both looks and feel.

[@LouSkunt44]

+nVr new R1 looks so much better

[@usinkangkong]

+nVr I love the bug eyes look of the R1, also love the looks of Ninja Zx-6r 2007-2008 bug eyes look :D

[@nurarihy0n]

love the bug eyed look

[@notomar1555]

i love the cyclops face on gixxers

[@marciogomesdarochazankynn1523]

Cara muito top essas R1.. essas levantada aí foi show 👏👏👏

[@MrBLombardi]

i've had both the R6 and now a new R1. both are great bikes, but the R1 is more fun I think. The power is amazing. :)

[@walterkramp-holzwarth862]

Very good presentation, guys... Greetings from Germany near the french border.😇

[@FSAUDIOGUY]

We had a bike shop when Yamaha first came out with these bikes back in the late 70's. People were bending them up pretty regular. They had a nasty throttle habit, when you twisted it..it was nothing then all the rpm's suddenly wound up very quickly. Older folks were buying them and wrecking left and right. We stripped one down and got it through the quarter around 13.86 or so. For what it was it was it was a quick little bike. I cannot remember the model, been too long ago. Those were fun days, we spent every dime we had running from track to track every weekend!

[@FSAUDIOGUY]

YES! That was it and RD! There were fun! Cheers:)

[@CinelliBinelli]

07 R6 is my first bike, just had good self control and respected the bike and its power and knew knew the basics and had good throttle control. You can start on whatever you want, idiots starting on Supersports give it a bad rep. 600cc are not as scary as everyone claim it out to be. Be smart, ride safe bros

[@Shinnosuke02]

sometimes it really doesn't matter what bike you're using as long as you can handle it...but don't rush you're self on a big bike

[@hotdogy12345]

i love the r1

[@obadiahscave]

I'm glad someone has the responsibility to run fast on a track, instead of the open road.. having that great power, takes maturity.. and tracks are awesome places to run..

[@ManWithNoName.]

Great review, i'd take that R6 anyday

[@Dickie180]

Pick my red&white r1 up today ! Can not wait. had cbr 600 for 2yrs

[@WRIGHTAUSSIE]

so glad i bought one! have akrapovic pipes on and it makes it look so much better and sounds wicked. build number 662

[@PacoConfu71]

Yes, traction control limits the ability to wheelie, but as they mentioned in the video, you can turn the traction control completely off.

[@Motosapien46]

A few upgrades, PC3 (looking to upgrade to a 5 before dyno tune), Full Graves titanium with ex-up delete. It's advertised 180 bhp but I'm at 4500' elevation so it won't be quite that high. My buddy's GSXR is stock except for a shorty two brothers slip on. I think it kills his low end and that's why he lacks on the street roll on. Don't worry though, he passes me up on the street because he gets way crazy and cuts up the bike lane and such. LOL

[@akosig10c]

proud to be an Owner of both YAMAHA bikes I LOVE MY R1 and FZ8 For street all-around use :)

[@louielambretta389]

the exhaust at the back on not the side is bloody awesome

[@adaptiveagile]

Great video. I think I’d much prefer a 600 or 750 on the track. Messing around with almost 200 horses is a little intimidating. But the sounds of the crossplane R1 (sigh)...

[@seaviper2738]

I said the same thing until I rode and then brought a 1000 :) My advice is to never ride a litre because if you do...you'll want one. It's not about the top end speed as a 600 will quite easily do 160 mph. It's about the torque. Everything is smoother on the litre and the engine wears better as you're not having to thrash the throttle in order to get to the power. My engine fan hasn't come on once. This makes buying 2nd hand allot less risky as the chances of it being thrashed are next to none.

[@sriramprasath4397]

R1 looks good with those after market exhausts!

[@Rncfbnx]

That deep grumble is mind numbing. Sounds like a pissed off demon. That cross plane

[@christiewilson3312]

that R1 is gorgeous. red and white,nice colours. Im buying myself an R1 when im older. they are great bikes. I do like the R6's but ive got a thing for the R1.:)

[@orlando847]

Yes, it does, it gets pretty warm there.

[@TheMiniatureScenes]

R1 is the dream. Cosmetically I'd be liking the old light setup more so.

[@WeeDItsGood]

Still in love with Love my 07 R6

[@AithaKartik]

I love R6. If you have a budget to spend and looking for an exciting ride, R6 is the way to go. And 600cc is as good as it gets in city traffic.

[@wiseimmorto]

yup. Everytime I get on my R6, I ask myself if I'm living real life. ;P

[@tnguy93]

2:30 "...if you want the whole mouth full" LOLOLOL

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

the sound alone makes the r1 the winner, let alone all the extra tech, more power, and less cramped feel

[@Remo860]

Love the aggressive angle on the swing arm of the R6.

[@dilaila181]

I think I will always choose the R1 :)

[@eddy2922]

Both are really good bikes. I own a r1 2003 bought in 2009 and it's still very very durable. I'm using it at nearly any type of wheather.

[@sacredamex]

+Edwin Su Isnt it cold, when it's rainy or snowy? or just windy.

[@eddy2922]

+cheekycont Sometimes it is cold, special when the seats are cold. You have to avoid cystitis

[@julian117891]

+Edwin Su my seat heats up if i let it rev a bit ;)

[@Guds777]

I am thinking of buying a 2003 R1. I do have Kawasaki ZX-11 1993. So it will be fun to feel the difference.

[@lIlllllIIIllllllllll]

I still think the 2004 R1 is the best looking R1, hands down.

[@xmx2012]

I like the look of R1, but it's too damn expensive :( also R6 as well!

[@Bulgdoom]

That was actually one of those few bike reviews that were actually done well and enjoyable to watch

[@muertinix]

R1 for the win!

[@justinatnip]

I just bought this buy after getting rid of my cbr. This 2012 model is nasty. Im 6'3 and it fits great

[@hudsonja]

I have an 04 R1 and it's still way too fast for the street sometimes, it wheelies out of every turn if you get on it, and just about every rolling hill will loft the front wheel wil

[@CREighty9]

if you're riding in a straight line i think any of these bikes will be ok. but if you guys actually plan on tracking, the r6 is a beast. a few mods can keep up with any of the liter bikes on the big track

[@edicarbajal2575]

2012 model looks like an alien, still a beautiful machine

[@albertzek9798]

Both are awesome. But the yamaha r6 looks more comfortable and sexy.

[@TheGofreak]

Albert Zek the r6 is the most uncomfortable bike in the world between some older ducatis

[@timone1002]

unless your a pro racer, it really doesnt matter which bike you choose.... there all fast and all handle great, just get what you like

[@ryanj1802]

I owned a 2003 R6 and now a 2004 R1 Raven Edition, I loved my R6 as it was my first bike and I always wanted one...It was great light and fun and fast...Its very snappy and revs high, but upgrading to the R1 feels right at home, you swear your on the R6 but more manly feeling and longer gearing.....when driving around the neighborhood you can stay in first gear etc where with the R6 you would have to keep cycling gears just to get down the street, in my opinion The R1 Raven 04-06 is the best looking bike, and for beginners The R6 2003 model was a great bike but after getting used to the R1 its much better and much more power and in my opinion overall better bike, the R6 i could hit 260kms where the R1 I hit 300kms plus

[@WrightMotorsRV]

I think it's really a matter of who you are arguing this with, the R1 vs the R6. The R6 will have considerable less weight, so its going to be far more nimble around the corners. But in the straights, the R1 will dominate. So its really a mater of what you are looking for in a bike. If you live in an area with very little straight roads, you are better off with the R6. But out in the country or the western US states, go for the R1 hands down.

[@ironDsteele]

Mike Hunsaker Both will get you arrested in first gear

[@gregskonieczny8171]

Hello The Bike show team. Did you ever test Yamaha FJR 1300? I keen to know what’s your opinion. Cheers

[@Motosapien46]

I absolutely agree! I am talking straight line roll on accelleration, like on the freeway. As soon as you get into the corners it's just as much tallent as it is the bike. At our local track there is a guy riding a 1993 CBR900rr Fireblade (stock and street legal, not a track only bike) that is faster than most of the track only bikes just because of tallent! He has riden that same bike for a couple years just to prove wrong all those guys who say that their bikes are holding them back.

[@TheRealCFF]

The only thing I don't like about the '09 -'14 R1 are the headlights. They remind me of the Brain Bug in Starship Troopers. Well that and that generation of the R1 was kind of a bus. The soup to nuts revamping of the R1 that took place in 2015 was really needed; get it back to its track roots.

[@MicaNy]

i'm still pretty happy with my 600. i'm hoping to test ride the r1 this summer and a couple of other litre bike . but i don't think my feeling for the 600 will change . but i understand you somewhere .

[@sastavloger9459]

this model is looks like a real beast that is why only this model of r1 is my dream

[@650hpreventon]

wish i have 600, but its too pricy compare to 1000, because everyoje wants 600 so they can jack up the price. im talking about all used bikes.

[@pummyy]

agreed i get a used R1 for the same price as the r6 of same age

[@drxpsaucx4157]

It's a joke in England you pay the same for a used 125 as a 300/600

[@f34dave]

TCS? Isn't that on all bikes? Located in your right hand?

[@seaviper2738]

PS: Just be aware that once you test ride a 1000 cc bike, you will look at your 600 in a different way mate. That 600 will loose some of it's awe. This sounds like a crazy thing to say but they almost feel like 125's to me now. They feel revvy. My mate let me have a go on his R6 the other day and it felt crap (which they are not ofc).

[@simeon250]

Dude, i just did the same! I had Cbr 600 and GSXR 600, power Was Great and all, sold them. Try’d a R1, Holy it Was sick, Maybe 2 sick to buy, cause i had 2 years break from Racing bikes. So i got me a R6 yesterday , and i feel like its not The same. Did i buy The wrong bike, should i Get The R1 and just Get used to The power? Or drive R6 to The limits. But 1 day later i had to retur it, Was something wrong with The papers. Is this a sign? «Everything happends for a reason?» Now Im thinking about R1 :-O

[@takerfan4ever]

Both great bikes. R6 has better handling and feels smoother. R1 has more power and is faster.

[@touristguy87]

takerfan4ever thank you, Captain Obvious

[@takerfan4ever]

touristguy87 don't mention it!

[@willmorris12345]

Well done watching the video then repeating what he said

[@dadude7]

+Will Morris But why male models?

[@davesiu680]

however, i am not saying busa and zx14r are that slow in corners but compare to 1 liter class they are. in terms of their appeal and comfort they are not really a true sport bike but more like sport/touring.

[@kieranjames3036]

R1 looks so mean

[@beefcake3131]

LOL good choice. Dirt bikes are a shit load of fun too. I honestly think I have more fun on my dirt bike than street bike because there are no rules. Plus getting air borne is always a plus.

[@ironDsteele]

I'm on my 4th bike now and I just picked up a 2012 anniversary R6. I don't even think I'll get an R1 for my 5th one since I really don't race. It's just way more motorcycle than I can put it through safely and legally on the road.

[@650SOCITY]

I'm getting the dirtbike... thanks for saving my life

[@vali69]

Damn one of those with a toce exhaust and it sounds bonkers... would love to get one from this model generation as my first liter bike in the far future... cause hell ill rather want to learn how to properly ride on a small bike then move to a 600 like a zx6 or r6 then get this...

[@Matt-zi3vd]

please do more of these!

[@2cool0]

I REALLY like the design of the anivesary edition on the r6 and r1s this year!!!!

[@prynce77]

we can all agree the aggressive look on the r1 is so 😍

[@LiangHuBBB]

I got 1 question to anyone who owns the yamaha r6 2014 version the seat high doesnt look that high tbh but I know it is 2ft 9 inches = 85 cm I am just 5 ft 7 inches = 1,70 cm tall am I too short for the r6? will this bike give me trouble to stand with both feet on the ground or can I handle it with 1 foot easily?

[@HardDanceShuffler10]

go to a bikershop and try it out

[@eXQUiZiTMiMe]

if you still want the bike if your too short, invest in lowering the suspension

[@MVH198]

im 1.65 cm tall and i ride sometimes with the R1 of my dad, its no problem with one foot or on youre toos ;)

[@al-eg1xg]

i have the r6. im 5'5. my feet just barely touch the floor flat when i sit on it. sister is 5'7, friend 5'11 they both stand and reach the floor perfectly on it. the weight of the bike is something else though. as my first sport i was really taken by surprise..

[@Edward135i]

Why is everyone a Midget on here?

[@Shogun09R1]

Awesome! We have one of each and love our bikes equally.

[@billybobkeith9147]

A lot of people say that the R6 looks sleeker and sexier than the R1, but I personally like the looks of the R1 more. The front lights look more pronounced, and the body just looks more "muscular" to me. If I were to get one though, I'd probably get the R6. It's a lot cheaper, and I would probably have just as much fun with it.

[@SchneiderVesperine]

I like your Alpinestars suit.

[@Averitt13]

Went to dealership. Sat on 2012 r1 and 2012 Cbr 1000rr. No comparison at all. Ended up driving the CBR home. Also, every year there is a "Liter Bike Shootout", R1 finished at the back of the back. I'm not saying its slow or bad, I'm just saying that against the Suzuki, Honda, and Kawasaki class of 2012 the Yamaha was at the back of the pack.

[@skl1090]

Seat height is actually higher on the R6 than it is on the R1. 33.5 inches on the R6, 32.8 on the R1.

[@fwh79FOXR6]

Very true. I don't care for the sound the R1 makes either. Has that V-bike sound to it. Gotta love the sound of the R6 though.

[@rahulpramanick8025]

Great And The engines were superb...................no doubt simply best

[@TheDietGod]

Do you have the stock pipe on it? Or do you have an aftermarket? I love the sound of the new R1s, kinda reminds me of the AprillaRSV4 and the MotoGP M1. Does it ride like a Twin in city streets? Like power at low&mid range? People like Twins cause they have power at low RPMs, is the 09-13 R1 similar to that?