2013-2017 Lexus GS450h | What You Should Know Before Buying

[@MeynMotorGroup]

After reviewing the GS450h, I realized there are only like 20 of these in the whole country for sale for 2013-2017 model years. Really crazy how I was able to get this super rare Lexus to review so special thanks to Anchor Auto Outlet for the opportunity. Follow me on insta @exhaustsports or become a Patreon member to see what I work on next

[@johnnyblaze2257]

I have a 2013 gs450h with low AF miles and in mint condition, with all the bells and whistles in white. It is sooooo quick AF in Sports plus mode.

[@alvinvalencia4417]

I have 1 of 7 in the last years they were selling in 2017. Amazing drive wouldn't trade my car for anything else!

[@driversteve9345]

I'm buying one tomorrow morning! Will be having it inspected by Lexus dealership tomorrow before signing the papers of course but the one I'm looking at is super clean and is like new!

[@innateone]

@@driversteve9345 How's it now?

[@driversteve9345]

@@innateone I test drove it but something wasn't right about the ride. The gas tank was sitting on empty and the salesman didn't seem to want me to drive it much so that to me was a red flag so I backed out of it. I instead found a very clean 2016 Lexus es 300h with 76,000 miles thru the dealership. Paid $21,600. Still driving it today with 166,000 miles and not a single issues I've had with it. Not even new breakpads. Only did the suggested maintenance which costs a pretty penny but hey, if it keeps issues from occurring, then it's worth it!

[@JC130676]

I really enjoy my GS 450h. Normally it's a very composed, relaxed car to drive but put it in Sport+, floor the gas pedal and it goes from Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde in an instant. Overtaking is rapid, 60 to 90 mph takes less than 5 seconds, and once that slowpoke in front of you has turned into a dot in your mirror you go back to relaxed cruising.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yup exactly lol

[@chadevers454]

I can’t tell you how often I’ve enjoyed doing exactly that especially when getting tailgated. I should stop though and learn to just quietly cruise. Mmmm.

[@triplea6174]

How reliable is this, does it feel a bit sporty? Planning to pick one up and hold it longterm.

[@miteshshetty9523]

I drive my 2013 Lexus GS 450h exactly like that. The acceleration between 70mph to 120mph is phenomenal, it is unlike I have ever felt in any other car.

[@Kamadev888]

I have a question for you. I'm thinking of buying a GS 450h. I live in a city with quite a few flaws in the road and speed bumps. Does this car go over them smoothly? Or is it uncomfortable over such roads? Or does it depend on whether it's a sport or luxury model? Thanks!

[@hwleitner2009]

Best reviewer ever. No bull and you cover every important detail without being tedious.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha thanks so much my friend I’m glad you appreciate what I do. I try my best to deliver what is important

[@DudeA-lc1yk]

@@MeynMotorGroup You succeed in that. Thanks for your LS and GS reviews from a Lexus driver. I'm driving a 2010 LS460, should I consider a 2012 GS450h? What's your opinion?

[@gwilli1754]

I am not sure to compare them: I have the 460 engine on a GX and the GS450. The GSF is closer in engine feel to the LS460, and the GS450H is the perfect hybrid: it is plenty capable without hybrid, but when needed, it does it without vibration and fuss. So, I think of the 450H like the limo powertrain for Lexus. Of course, it is on its way out for buzzy turbos, which are its opposite.

[@marjieoconnor7317]

Very good review...a solid overview of everything the car has to offer. In 2018, I bought a used 2013 GS450h ....and after almost two years and 40,000 miles of driving, I still love it as much as the day I brought it home. Normally after owning a car for a while, you'll identify a few minor problems or things you don't like about it...but with the GS450h, I've yet to find any significant negatives or shortcomings. (Okay, I'm not a fan of the mouse controller for the entertainment/info GUI....but this is a minor annoyance based on personal preference, and I don't use it much anyway.) As of this writing, my car has 113K miles total and has been 100% reliable since the day I bought it....absolutely no issues whatsoever. I'm averaging roughly 32 mpg for normal everyday driving (slightly higher on the interstate, slowly lower in the city)...but this will vary according to your driving style. More aggressive driving results in 28-30 mpg; you can get closer to 35-36 mpg by driving conservatively with liberal use of EV mode. (Note that EV mode only works up to 25 mph, at which point the V6 kicks on.) A couple points worth mentioning: The EV mode button effectively bypasses the V6 motor and uses only the electric motor for 100% electric operation. This uses zero gas and makes the car almost completely silent, which is *very* cool....but it only works for short periods. Once the hybrid battery runs low or if you exceed 25 mph or accelerate beyond the capabilities of the 100hp electric motor, the V6 kicks in automatically to provide power and recharge the hybrid battery. (Once you get a feel for it, EV mode can help maximize fuel efficiency while starting from a dead stop or for driving at lower speeds through residential areas; it can also help conserve fuel if you're sitting in traffic or waiting in line at a drive-thru.) There's also the Sport mode, which is actually two modes in one: Sport and Sport+. Flipping the button once enables the basic Sport mode, which makes the engine's throttle response noticeably more aggressive at lower RPMs and provides fast and powerful acceleration. Flipping the button a second time enables "Sport+" mode; this keeps the same aggressive Sport-mode throttle response, while also tightening up the suspension and steering response for a slightly sportier feel. It's not a dramatic difference.....after all, we're still talking about a 4000-lb sedan; it's not gonna handle like a Porsche or Ferrari. But on a winding road with a lot of turns, S+ mode does seem to tighten up the steering just a touch and the wheels hug the road just a little bit closer. It's not a dramatic difference, but it's there. It's also worthing noting that the GS450h is one of the most comfortable cars I've ever driven. My job requires a lot of driving, often 200-400 miles in a day, and I've driven a lot of different car. This is one of the only cars i've driven that remains comfortable after 4-6 hours of driving; I'm not pulling over every couple hours to stretch or constantly adjusting my body and/or seat position to try and get comfortable. (As I mentioned earlier, my car is almost 8 years old and has 113K miles on it....and it's still more comfortable than many brand-new cars I've driven). It's a great car from top to bottom. No complaints at all.

[@guy_with_no_name]

As a fellow 450h owner, I find this very accurate. Nice right up. If you want to find faults in the car go over to the forums. They pick apart every thing. Actually don’t because its stuff you cant unsee.

[@chadevers454]

I have a 2013 too. Love it but the only weakness is the GUI. Awkward and weird but the esthetic is nice! Also, the seats are amazing.

[@innateone]

@@chadevers454 What is GUI?

[@evilkidd1876]

This is probably the best comment review I've ever read. And I've read it twice lol I'm thinking of purchasing a 2013 Lexus GS450h in 2023 lol 10years old man. But still right up there in design and what I want out of a vehicle especially with petrol prices over here in NZ

[@mr.potatohead3870]

​@@evilkidd1876Imma make sure this is my first car 😂 everything I want, pretty good on gas and sporty with Lexus reliability

[@billkeating9377]

I’ve owned the 2013 GS450h for 8 years now…and have only seen one other on the road. Fun to have techs at the Lexus dealership all gather around & take pics. Fantastic car. Always 32+ MPG, and close to 40 on long trips. Only downside is, being RWD, it sucks in the snow, but with a set of winter wheels, it’s fine. Awesome car…total wolf in sheep’s clothing.

[@GP2141BC]

What about the battery pack.. have you had to replace it ?

[@viperz22]

Good question about the battery pack

[@drj2039]

The bamboo looks so much nicer than the plastiwood that is common in many other luxury cars

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha I definitely agree! It looked fantastic

[@michaelgrant5258]

Well Acura uses fake wood in their RLX. But at least they have the best sound system rivaling Bentley & Rolls Royce in a side by side comparison. I am thinking of starting a KZbin channel for just measuring car stereo systems to show what's better and worse.

[@DudeA-lc1yk]

Actually driving a LS 460 (2010 - 152.000 km) and had a test drive with a GS 450h F Sport last week. I can only conclude that your test reports are spot on. Thanks for posting these Lexus reviews.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Im humbled my friend and yea solid cars I love both the LS and GS450h!

[@DudeA-lc1yk]

@@MeynMotorGroup I'm in doubt my friend... ;-)

[@markkujantunen8298]

I have a 2012 Lexus GS450h with 130 miles on the clock. Runs without any problems and it really shines in lacking noise, vibration and harshness. It's very quiet, refined, powerful and comfortable. It's spacious, too. The sound system is better than anything I've ever had. The clarity is superb in all frequencies and with the 12 speakers placed just right you feel as though you were right in the middle of a musical performance. The low of NVH helps with the listening experience.

[@PLATINUM2U]

Love the GS. Perfect size. Unparalleled reliability. Lexus never disappoints😎

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey my friend how are you? Yea I really liked the GS a lot for sure!

[@PLATINUM2U]

@@MeynMotorGroup doing pretty good here. No complaints😎

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Nice great to hear you’re killing that ugly duckling 😂

[@PLATINUM2U]

@@MeynMotorGroup 😁👀👀

[@ravipeiris4388]

I've seen the car up close and for sure, it has presence.

[@innateone]

After owning several Lexus hybrids....This is the best one I have ever driven. Owned it for over a year now

[@DHRN-rq1qq]

No technical issues?

[@innateone]

@@DHRN-rq1qq I did have to replace the electric steering rack which was a large expense. The Lexus tech told me that it was very rare and must have been due to an accident the car had before I owned it. Other than that, a wheel bearing.

[@23SLAVO23]

⁠@@innateonewhat was wrong with your electric steering rack ? What is the year of production of your car? What mileage did you have when the peoblem ocured ? And what was the price of new steering rack ?

[@Zeczam]

I bought a 2006 GS450h a few months ago and I absolutely love it. It had a brand new hybrid battery fitted in by Lexus about a year ago under warranty. Got a very good deal!

[@bigh8121]

how mules does it have?

[@jolito9594]

Bought a 2013 gs450h. Really refined relaxing comfortable driving experience! Without exaguration. I also test drove 2007 S class. Its really similar...and also the engine sound when cruising is a pleasable sound. My next car will also be gs450h. Perfect! I am suprised why so few gs are on the road here in europe..Lexus is really underrated.

[@rossgoodwin2700]

Would love to know how long you plan on keeping this car - I'm debating buying either a 2017 is300h or 2013 gs450h - obviously the younger car would cost less during 5year ownership - what made you pick the older car over a younger lexus?

[@chadevers454]

Have had my 2013 GS40h for 5 years now. Bought in 2015 with 13K on the odo. The reliability has been stunning. 0-60 mph is quick, but the 50-90 mph rolling jump will shock the average driver. Beautiful timeless interior. I did a gift coupon Ferrari, Lambo, Aston Martin Vantage coupe drive last year and only the Aston came close to my Lexus in terms of interior design. I’ve achieved 45MPG using “hypermiling”, typically because of my sometimes heavy foot, I can milk 29-30 MPG. Not bad for a stealth performance car. Lexus production of the car was limited because Lexus wanted to lower their corporate CAFE numbers. Makes the car more exclusive in my book.Living in the California Bay Area, I’ve seen tons of ES 300-350’s, but NEVER another GS450h.Great review, I hope to keep mine to 100K plus!

[@innateone]

How many miles now?

[@Johan10683]

Man, your reviews are next level! Only stumbled across your channel yesterday but subscribed and will be watching old and new reviews.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thank you my friend for the support I’m happy the reviews can be of value

[@manbearpigsuncle]

I wanted one of these after i sold my 430 but the closest one for sale was 850 miles away, such cool and rare vehicles. Its a shame nobody knows about how good these hybrid models are

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea this thing is super rare for sure and yea nobody will ever really appreciate this unfortunately

[@michaelgrant5258]

@@MeynMotorGroup Are they that rare? I see 2 or 3 GS 350's at least once a week & a dozen LS 460's. I could go weeks without seeing another of my daily driver.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

The GS 450h is rare the 350s are very common

[@rykeius]

Just bought a 2013 450h I’m in love with it already only 76k on it. My only fear is my lack of knowledge when it comes to a battery replacement for this car.

[@bassicuk1986]

This will be my next Lexus. A GS450h f sport

[@AnthonyHung1992]

Picking this car up next week. F Sport.....holy shit it's a beast.

[@AnthonyHung1992]

PS: Your channel is awesome. Always tuned in for your next video

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Massive congrats my friend I know you will love it and I am humbled by that thanks so much for your support!

[@AnthonyHung1992]

@@MeynMotorGroup Thanks! I am always looking forward to your reviews :)

[@revxxxxxxx]

I've never heard of this model. Thanks for reviewing.

[@rambo4war]

The start stop in Toyota Lexus hybrids is so smooth because they use a generator to start the car so the operation is very smooth. I had on 07 Camry hybrid and currently a 2015 Gs 450h f sport and it’s not noticeable at all. The company has had decades to get and perfect this technology. Now my 2013 bmw 328 xdrive has start stop “technology” if that’s what u want to call it and it uses the starter and the process is clunky, annoying an cumbersome. The car jerks and if you have the a/c on it’s like the engine wants to die when it starts back up and the compressor simultaneously kicks on. I turn this feature off in the bmw. The Lexus really does feel natural and perfectly mated to the tech

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I agree! And I know what you’re talking about with the BMWs I have experienced that as well. The Toyota/Lexus hybrid technology is really refined

[@troysmith9007]

i have a 2010 Lexus GS450h i love it so much its soooo smooth and quick

[@MeynMotorGroup]

It's a great car

[@SusannaJ]

Have you had any problems with the battery or engine?

[@nichopaulu8395]

Fantastic review! I forgot how rare these Lexus GSs are. Now the next time I see one I'm going to smile.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha yea it is super rare I had no idea either. And thank you my friend I really appreciate your kind words

[@nickregnier1]

Very good review. As you said the CVT works superbly with this 3.5 V6 engine. It sounds very nice and the drive is smooth. It is definitely a car that I will keep for a few years...

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thanks so much Nick and yea I really enjoyed this car and you def should keep it for a few year! Really powerful car too

[@nickregnier1]

@@MeynMotorGroup Indeed. The way it delivers the power is very linear and gradual so not like many other vehicles where they give you the turbo power making the wheels spin too fast. This car is not designed to do this and it is such a lovely feel to it when pressing the gas - it is steady and well-grounded car. If you do 60mph on the motorway and press on the accelerator for overtaking it will accelerate suddenly really fast and gives you this loud bang from engine, which is so lovely. People in other vehicles overtaken by this car often are surprised as they do not expect this kind of power deliver from a Hybrid. This 3.5 V6 engine with CVT is a treat and works perfectly in balance! If we compare it to the new ES, I think the new ES300h is lacking the power and real wheel drive feel that the GS provides. Without a doubt, the GS450H is a luxurious car but without too being too luxurious, which is perfect if you do not want to make a strong statement.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

That’s a perfect explanation of why this car is so great Nick. Yes it’s not like a Turbo car the power delivery is super linear but you get the immediacy of the power in all power ranges due to the electric power which is awesome it really is a great sensation for sure and will surprise a lot of people as it certainly surprised me. Such a rare car tho, not many can take advantage of this as there is not a lot for sale, only a handful in all of America

[@nickregnier1]

@@MeynMotorGroup I agree and it is a shame that there are not that many GS450H in America. You see I live in the UK London, so in Europe, car consumers have been ditching Diesel more and more due to VW scandals, and also many Governments in Europe have been encouraging drivers to replace cars with cleaner fuel or energy. So Lexus is doing brilliantly now and better than before the VW diesel scandal erupted, as Lexus was one of the few companies that ditched Diesel (before its scandal) and all car journalists at the time were criticising Lexus for not offering Diesel any longer. Now Lexus is being praised and is leading the Hybrid market with Toyota - people are realising how advanced Lexus was thinking in offering more sustainable and environmentally friendly cars. If you drive a Lexus Hybrid, you contribute to improving the environment. In my personal case, I have been driving my GS Lexus (for the first time) over a year ago. And also in London, we have got to change how we drive, as we have congestion charge and ULEZ tax that applies to vehicles that are not meeting new emission limits - so we have no choice but to seek newer and cleaner vehicles...

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Ahhh gotcha yea that makes sense. I’m usually super against hybrids but this was just so well executed I loved it. I would take this over a diesel for sure.

[@enemdisk6628]

Who dislikes this video! It's really good and a lot of insights.

[@viperz22]

Satan does

[@Rambo-ok3lx]

The review was that good I ended up buying one after watching. Definitely the best car I've ever owned by far, I will be hanging onto this for sure

[@vofcr91]

how is it after a year of using ? :)

[@viperz22]

And did you need to change the battery at all? What's your mileage

[@originalGFLEX]

Great video. I've been researching the GS and this model is the best all rounder. Thanks for the confirmation and additional information.

[@paulgyro]

Crazy you compared the Three cars I'm currently looking at! LS460, GS460h, Genesis G80

[@timw2083]

Great review again!!! I'm torn between the LC500 and GSF. I have Stinger GT as a sporty daily that covers a sedan

[@MeynMotorGroup]

LC500 no doubt I’m working on getting one myself

[@denoreed9514]

Great review. I always wanted to see a great review about this model and how it handles and drives.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey thank you so much that means a lot to me! Yea I really loved this car a lot and I’m glad you found value with this video!

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Great review as usual thanx 👍🏾👏🏾✌🏾

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thank you my friend! I appreciate your support

[@jamesbooth3360]

My wife bought a 2015 new with the sport package. True story: Few were available so Lexus actually rented the car back from us for a month or two to run tests. Strange, but my wife still loves it with 67k miles behind her. Perfect car for her since she accelerates aggressively wasting gas in town, and most of that is handled by the electric assist really saving the powertrain and gas. I don't like it as I hit the start, but it doesn't seem to start until you hit the accelerator, but it is running (or maybe ready to run?). I prefer my S85 M6.

[@KickoStocks]

Would love to see a review on the LX570, your reviews are great

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thank you so much my friend I am humbled by that! Yea I would like to review one as well, so far I've only done the LX470 from 2001 haha

[@jonathanmarquise422]

just bought a 2014 GS 350. wish I had looked into the hybrid, because my fuel economy is pretty terrible. however, I wanted the AWD system because it snows here. but that fuel economy would be welcomed considering I am getting around 13-14mpg. city driving is brutal.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Oh man you’re getting damn near Hellcat levels of fuel economy but you know it’s going to last and there’s not going to be any real major repairs down the road. AWD will keep your safe too it is a great car the Hybrid is nearly impossible to find haha

[@jonathanmarquise422]

@@MeynMotorGroup for sure. it's not much better than my tundra, and it takes premium that's $1 more expensive per gallon. it's just a rough commute. stoplights, hills, and stop signs. my old honda fit was only able to muster like 20mpg on this type of commute. the GS does well on the highway though, so I might get a beater for my daily commute and save the GS for road trips! love the vids man.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Oh yea i totally get it and thanks so much my friend I really appreciate that!

[@MikeB-jn2bu]

I felt the same way about 4 months ago when I down sized from a 09 LS 460 awd to a 14 GS 350 awd that I found cherry with only 29k on it. I thought I was gonna get better gas mileage but turned out to be about the same as the LS 18/19 mpg because I'm not driving as much highway now due to new job. I've learned to just turn off the average mpg gauge and enjoy the ride! You will save on repair bills in the long term averaging out the gas mileage.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Very good point my friend you only live once enjoy that awesome ride

[@toggler6985]

Toyota/Lexus need to up their game in this category… they’ve been ahead of most major Luxury brands for years but now it’s time to go electric!

[@TheBeliever-vu8wc]

Very good review

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

I would be looking for a car like this to replace my Camry hybrid. I am hooked onto hybrid technology. Problem is that the GS450H is very difficult to find and I definitely would prefer a Lexus CPO. In the EU there is also the GS300H but that car was never available in the US. The ES300H is front wheel drive and has the same power as my Camry so mehh...Ah well, I keep looking!

[@DavidBrowningBYD]

It's a beautiful car, and I always enjoy your reviews. I've always wondered how long the batteries last on Lexus hybrids. Do we have any hard data showing when batteries need to be replaced--age or miles driven, on average? I've heard anecdotal evidence about even such highly regarded hybrids as the Prius needing new batteries between 100K and 150K miles, and the expense is not small!

[@innateone]

I've owned 3 and never had a problem with the battery. They are designed to last the life of the vehicle.

[@THEGAMINGHELP101]

Whatever the prius of the same year lasts is probably the save for the lexus. Also remember to clean the battery air filter!!

[@riccccccardo]

Still loving my mk4 450h f sport owner here great car so far very swift the cvt gear box is seamless love how in normal mode just plods along smoothly and goes like a rocket in sports + mode and with the four wheel steering can take corners like on rails have to be be super careful not to scrap the wheels on curbs that’s how good it turns.

[@Eausti]

Run on sentence

[@riccccccardo]

@@Eausti huh?

[@jimbob9086]

You have to be careful not to curb the wheels due to it turning so good?

[@riccccccardo]

@@jimbob9086 as the car slightly tilts to the left or right 1.5 degrees movement max back wheels.

[@douglasdonatien7044]

Nice review and great car I have an es

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey thanks so much and nice man I loved the ES great car

[@chumadoshi6987]

Your English is on point. Where did you go to college ?

[@DisneyMusicVideos]

I currently drive a white on red 2016 GS350 F-Sport for a couple of years so far which has been an absolutely amazing car that I may keep forever, but I would look into the 450h if I were to buy another GS as my future vehicle will most likely be ether a hybrid or electric, but they're very hard to find. I mostly see the 350's on Autotrader here in California.

[@musculitax]

Fun fact : when you said the steering feels heavy at low speeds... , I know it's quite off topic , maybe ?! But at work we got some Reach trucks made by toyota and their steering is not heavy but they steer slower when you don't accelerate as much 😅😅 . Great video with this occasion I'm really , looking forward to having my next car a GS 450H 🙌🙌 , I owe a 1.6 Astra from 2010 in UK 😆😆😆

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha I’m not surprised Toyota usually has lighter steering in their cars makes it easier on every day drives. Thanks again my friend, let me know if you get one I’m sure it would look great on UK roads!

[@musculitax]

@@MeynMotorGroup Will definetly do ^^ , UK roads are really bad but a Lexus like this would not just turn heads

[@RevLexus]

Interesting video, I must say I much prefer the front end of the facelift models

[@sanjsharma8184]

Deffo my next car but undecided if I should get a pre 2012 GS450h or this? I just prefer the looks of the older model but wouldn't say no to this if the right one came along. I've heard the older one is quicker?

[@johnleewins3814]

Maybe add text while you talk when you mention specs like hp torque also whatever the price is, they are selling it for.. Also do a review on the is300 😁

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey John so yea I do that occasionally on some cars but I will try to do that more often similar to what Motortrend does and I can list the prices and what the vehicle originally stickered for. I’m doing another vid in an IS350 2015 this time but no F sport but I wanted to make a video saying if F sport is worth it or not. We’re you referring to the original IS300 from like 04? Cuz that’s a hard car to find haha

[@kari9856]

Nice review indeed. I wonder who in a right mind would ever consider i.e. beamer, merc or audi. They are endless money pits not to mention the resale value!

[@jasgill7121]

Because AMGs are super nice

[@eduardonevado7119]

Hey man. Thanks for the quality review. Love your channel. I am considering a 2013 with 88k miles. The battery warranty will be coming up soon. Should I be concerned about replacement? Changing it at the Dealer could cost 7k. I don’t have experience with hybrid cars but seems there are options to buy refurbished batteries. Would greatly appreciate your advice. Thanks and keep up the good work!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey my friend thanks so much see if you can get a warranty from a dealership, if you're buying from a Lexus dealer even better. But yea I would most likely not buy without a warranty

[@eduardonevado7119]

Thanks for your advice. Take care man!

[@innateone]

2013 plus GS hybrids have not had any battery issues .....yet... Mine when testing says poor....but I have not had issues with the battery except when goin through a car wash

[@Loachie90]

Hopefully you’ll find an LC500, that would be special

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I think I need to buy that thing 😂

[@andrewforbes8638]

Brilliant video again! I totally agree about the paddle shifts! I have them and consider them completely pointless. I love the relaxation that goes with driving the CVT. I don't see the point of pretending it has gears with the paddles - I'll save that for Forza Motorsport. :) I love our hybrid! The IS300h is nowhere near as fast as your GS450h being only a 2.5 four cylinder at 220BHP, but I love the instant torque available from the electric motor when you plant your foot. And they're so quick from standstill!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thank you so much Andrew and yea haha in most cars I will say no thanks to the paddles. If I want manual I will get a manual car. And Is300h is such a unique car we don't get that here in the states! Yea the electric power always being available makes these cars amazing for city driving and effortless passing. Thanks again for stopping by and showing support!

[@shujayethossain6554]

Is the 2013 450h reliable with higg mileage?

[@bighosre10]

Every time I find a GS Hybrid. Seems to always have a grey interior. I don't like grey. Maybe if I see it in person. I'll change my mind?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea I think so a lot of manufacturers call this color gray but it’s really white lol I think it looks great but I will admit will be hard to keep clean

[@LeeePowers]

You drove a 600hl yet? Its dope. "Roll on" monster and I dont doubt it hitting 185 with the limiter removed. The 460 will do 175 without the limiter.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Nope never that thing does not exist in my area haha I don’t think I will have my chance with that car anytime soon

[@LeeePowers]

@@MeynMotorGroup if you 3vet get the chance,its a beast. I tested one,but its suspension was SHOT. 65-100 is a few seconds if that,it feels a buff ass golf cart with the 2stage eCVT.

[@Excalabur50]

Thanks for the review Kev and I think those paddle shifters are part of the regenerative system but don't quote me on that but I have seen on other cars where that's what they were used for with hybrids.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Oh yes I know what you’re talking about I think these were to simulate gears but this CVT never did that so you might be right there could be regenerative purpose to them. Thanks again for watching like always!

[@mrjackbagginz]

Hi ive got 2 x12 subs and it still have plenty of space its good on gas and its real fast

[@AC-yg9zf]

How do you compare this to the new Lexus ES300h with regards to driving dynamics, comfort and quietness?

[@velizar8880]

I had a 2021 ES300h, bought it new! Last year I traded it for a 2018 GS450h For me the GS is a much better car! In every way!

[@AC-yg9zf]

@@velizar8880 Thanks for the info as I was contemplating trading in my GS450H for an ES300H

[@jeffreyalon3156]

Have been contemplating this or a 2019 ES300h, you thoughts? Currently have a 05 LS430

[@velizar8880]

I had a 2021 ES300h, bought it new! Last year I traded it for a 2018 GS450h For me the GS is a much better car! In every way!

[@belveyj]

I feel personally attacked in this one. I have an 06 Lincoln LS looking to eventually get rid of it. I test drove this and the CVT and that mouse where the only things I just could not get pass. Otherwise I feel the same way. With the majority of cars having All-Wheel Noob RWD options are not as many as before. Plus my father has a Lexus can't get the same brand. Lol

[@TheShakir98]

sweet vid, can you make a vid about Lexus LS600hL executive package

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Lol probably not my friend as they are impossible to find but if the opportunity presents itself, absolutely!

[@wbwayne8887]

I think if I was buying one, I would prefer the GS350 over the hybrid, mostly on account of the added weight of the batteries. I would love to see you review an Acura RLX or RLX hybrid for comparison. The resale on the RLX seems much lower than the typical Honda/Acura.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Man I was supposed to do that car but the dealer had to send it to auction because they couldn’t sell it lol

[@wbwayne8887]

@@MeynMotorGroup Imagine that. Lol

[@michaelgrant5258]

You should try the Acura RLX, it competes in the same class as the Lexus GS 350. Oddly enough though, the RLX rides better & has a quieter cabin than the Lexus in the later versions. The RLX is more like a LS/ES than a GS competitor. *For 2016, the RLX suspension has been retuned with softer shocks and springs*

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I def want to and was going to but the dealer had to send their RLX to the auction cuz they couldn’t sell it lol still on their site tho maybe I can still do it I’ll see but def on my list

[@michaelgrant5258]

@@MeynMotorGroup I'll have a dealer 20 miles from me with the old & refresh RLX. I also bought one of Acura's surround sound demo disk. Was planing on using it on the Lexus GS 350 with Mark Levinson. But now I have an excuse to try it on both RLX systems ELS & Krell. I might just sonically measure each car & start a youtube car audio testing channel like what Geese does on his new video's.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Heck yea my friend absolutely. Let me know if you do I will be more than happy to shout it out!

[@FilmScape4K]

my gs450h has very light steering at low speeds.

[@thomastalks3841]

Great video, love the GS. Is it rare though? The GS only came in the GS 300h, 450h & the 'F' (V8 performance)

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thanks so much Thomas, and yea this hybrid trim is rare the 450h but yea 350s are pretty common. Great cars for sure!

[@thomastalks3841]

@@MeynMotorGroup I never realised they did the 350 :P In the UK you can only get the hybrids :)

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Oh wow that’s interesting, yea I think the emissions are super strict in Europe and even some Asian countries that’s why Volvo makes supercharged, turbocharged, and hybrid all in one 4 cylinders lol. Might not be reliable but it’s to reach emissions on paper at least. I’m still super humbled to have awesome viewers like you stop by from the UK on my review thank you!

[@thomastalks3841]

@@MeynMotorGroup probably and petrol costs a lot

[@SpiritLwerewolf]

@@MeynMotorGroup more like a ridiculous turbodiesel craze. Pay (slightly) less at the pump, release slightly less CO2 (assuming not vs an atkinson hybrid and warmed up), face problems that make 335i's (well, n54/n55/etc) look cheap to run, emit a good deal more NOx and PM and feature tons of exhaust treatment. Nevermind noise, vibrations, kle-kle-kle exhaust. Not overexaggerating too much. Diesel-cycle engines are simply hard to make clean out of the combustion chamber (lean burn with bad mixing and atomization - basically lean burn GDI but worse)... Mazda is the only manufacturer that I know of that has tried, and their skyactiv diesel is apparently quite effective - way better real-world emissions, even without using SCR. Then again, they have their regular skyactiv and the skyactiv-x, so... :P CO2 emissions in Europe are "strict", taxes are big and largely depend on engine displacement and top-end power (disregard actual fuel consumption or other emissions), diesel is generally cheaper than petrol. Japan and the US (CARB) both have extremely strict emissions standards, the EU gave diesel cars a lot of slack on that front - nevermind the real-world emissions. Result - turbodiesel with a chiptune and EGR/DPF/everything deleted/blanked off is extremely common. Probably explains why we don't get the IS/GS350 over here... same for the v6 rav4's/camrys/etc. I hate this place...

[@riccccccardo]

The staggered tires thing will annoy me though when comes to replacing as some manufacturers do not do different sizes for same tire. Also I refuse to pay around I think £200 each for mitchlin ps5 tires wud prefer £100 to £150 each prices any one got any recommendations for a quality sports good wearing tire in those price ranges for this car front and back. I looked at rainsport 5 which reasonably priced but reviews not great.

[@julianschmidt4905]

The problem with Lexus... you never want anything else... I have never seen someone switching FROM Lexus TO anything else.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Well theres more to car than Lexus people want to try out what other companies have to offer variety is the spice of life or whatever

[@julianschmidt4905]

Exhaust Sports Auto Yeah of course. But they will always come back. But change a good oiled running system?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea lol once you finish experiencing everything you settle back down in a Lexus or Toyota. Most everything else is lease only. Have you heard about the new Turbo engines lexus plans on implementing?

[@julianschmidt4905]

Exhaust Sports Auto No I didn't. I must say... i'm not a huge fan of turbos. Supercharger are way better and more practical. Which series get the turbo option?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Apparently from what I've heard the good ol 3.5 v6 will be dead and replaced by turbo 4 cylinders very sad thing I really respected toyota and Lexus for having V6 and V8 but unfortunately many manufacturers are going down this road

[@derektruong6272]

What are your thoughts on the IS300h? Would love to see you review the hybrid 4cyl

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Unfortunately we don't get that car here in the states but I actually drove a few hybrids like the UX and NX 300h honestly wasn't a huge fan surprisingly would rather have the regular motors but just my thoughts after driving these models hope that helps my friend

[@derektruong6272]

​@@MeynMotorGroup Oh didn't know there was no IS300h there. We've got it in Australia. I own the IS300h but I've driven the IS250 f-sport and they felt very similar in terms of power. I feel there's enough power in the IS300h for everyday driving. Do you think it's more to do with the heavier weight of the UX and NX chassis? Thanks for the response.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea something about the chassis of the NX was off as the ride quality was not the best either. Lexus IS is a nice composed sedan handles itself very well. Power wasn't much of an issue with either hybrid I tried

[@oof8850]

I've almost saved up for one of these bad boys but my only question is: how much better is the mark Levenson sound system compared to the standard one? Should I keep waiting for one or go ahead with the standard one?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hmm if you are an audiophile go ahead and wait for the ML

[@innateone]

My wife has a GX 460 with standard surround, I have 2013 GS 450h with ML .... really no difference than mine is louder, but shakes everything in the car

[@innateone]

I am an audiophile btw

[@Superfastjellyfish669]

I wish I could find one of these 😢

[@rj.parker]

Actually I just started, like, watching your videos of the used car market. To be honest, I actually really like the content. The ride in Lexus vehicles is actually, like, very nice. However, sometimes less is more, certainly when using emphasis words “like” “actually” which can absolutely be distracting at best and irritating at worse. Not suggesting a script is [actually] necessary but avoiding the same word twice in the same sentence is essential writing and grammar. “I am not going to lie”, selective use of alternates is a sign of an expansive vocabulary.. In most cases emphasis words like “actually”, that” or “like” are not needed at all. Clear and concise should be the goal.

[@markhouston2255]

Isn’t 2013 the model everyone avoids ??

[@innateone]

Why? first year production?

[@Blaine_04]

How long will it last for?

[@jeremyking3986]

I’m looking at one of these for $15k, 2013 150k miles.

[@rufusade4294]

have you find, i have 2013 Red 450h i would like to sell

[@alexlopez-dk4jq]

What’s your thoughts on a 2008 Lexus GS 450h?

[@melodychest9020]

Does it clean itself while it is driving?! Sounds like a car wash pressure machine! lol

[@sdh6590]

But why now toyota stopped made this model?

[@Tec2Nut]

I would still like to see the rear exhaust tips

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I understand haha

[@insu1569]

Anyone had or tried the 3rd Gen GS450h (2007-2011) and 4th&4.5 Gen (2012-2018) ? from what i understand the 3rd GS is almost 1 sec quicker 0-100, but in the 4th GS you get much better economy and nicer interior. Worth to giveup that speed? Thoughts ?

[@innateone]

The 13+ gets much better mpg and is probably faster....depending on the driver

[@insu1569]

@@innateone its about half to 1 sec slower apparently

[@NinjaPickups]

This is why Acura is losing Lexus did it right with a RWD sport sedan like yea you can get SH-AWD but a hybrid to help with performance last thing Honda did with a performance hybrid was a 2007 Accord V6 Hybrid but you cant expect a Honda to compete with a Lexus

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea I mean Acura I don’t think is chasing Lexus they’re in a unique lane of affordable luxury and I appreciate that Acura a great looking prestigious car that still gets respect and for most people that’s all they need I guess

[@NinjaPickups]

Exhaust Sports Auto you know thats what ive been saying for a long time now other ppl just dont get it i guess Lexus definetly targeted the Germans since day 1 Acura always did their own thing gotta respect them for that Acura competes with Infiniti more to me it seems

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea Lexus started out chasing and out doing the Sclass and 7 series with the LS400 but Acura was always that decent quality pretty obtainable luxury car you can park on the drive way and stand above normal cars. Infiniti is a bit similar yea but they do try to offer more HP per dollar. Quality really has gone down tho with Renault being part owners but you can lease them cheap

[@NinjaPickups]

Yea thx for the great job as always Kevin glad we think the same Acura RLX $65k cant really be compared to a $120k LS500 or 750i or S560 im glad you also agree that Acura is above average but still considered luxury

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Oh of course I really enjoy Acura I feel like every manufacturer has something to bring to the table and each have their distinct feel. Idk if you saw my TLX review the white one but I really appreciated that car

[@johnnyx5623]

Gs450h or gs350 fsport?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

tough choice I like both driving wise GS 450h was a beast so fast. Keeping long term, GS 350 might be better and cheaper. Also much easier to find a 350 used

[@riccccccardo]

The gs 450h gen started from 2012 not 2013?

[@innateone]

new Gen 2013

[@riccccccardo]

@@innateone mines is new gen mk4 2012 😊

[@nonametv9361]

Could you please describe the sound system? Clarity, bass, ... Is it comparable to the burmester system in mercedes for example? Thank you 🙃

[@MeynMotorGroup]

It is clear for sure but definitley not comparable to the burmester it does sound noticeable better and more clarity. Both have good Bass hope this helps

[@briansukhu4392]

It is underrated but the Acura RLX has more horse power and is significantly cheaper and has all of the virtues of bullet proof build quality and reliability

[@MeynMotorGroup]

RLX is pretty underrated no RWD but a special car nonetheless. I was supposed to do a review but my dealership had to send their 2018 RLX to auction cuz they couldn’t sell it

[@briansukhu4392]

@@MeynMotorGroup 0-60mph 4.9 seconds which is better than all the competitors in its class

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I hear yea man I mean idc about spec sheets and numbers on paper but I get it. It’s underrated

[@briansukhu4392]

@@MeynMotorGroup per my comment unlike a Cadillac/Lincoln it mirrors the GS's reliability and build quality, while exceeding its performance. The demand for the RLx is so low you can probably negotiate a very good deal

[@michaelgrant5258]

The RLX will break and cost double what the lexus will cost in maintenance. Your pay double for an alternator & have to deal with a timing belt service.

[@MrCarguy2]

Ehhh CVT sounds like it's neutering the car as hell It could be fine for a middle aged 9-5 guy but I don't think I would live without controlling shifts in any way Also nice review there. Can you get us any generation of the Audi A8?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha of course CVTs are never ideal but I just appreciate how the power is always there and ready to go. I can get an A7 yes haha unfortunately no A8s near me but yea gotta try some Audi’s for sure. I drove a couple new ones I do appreciate Audi not bad cars similar to BMW but with a bit more comfort slightly detached feeling

[@dionjeremy1711]

Our generation are not stacked with cash. Its the 9-5 middle age people buying cars lol.

[@julianschmidt4905]

I think, the bundle of technology is very thoughtful. You install a ecvt, electric breaking and eliminate wear. That's the way to go.

[@timj41]

such a shame the eco meter doesnt transition to a tacho in sport mode as per Lexus CT200

[@michaeljohnson89]

It does

[@chrisciocan6360]

I don't like the stick, I muck prefer the prius one, this one is so outdated

[@aes_ytb]

getting rid of the ton of filler words you have in your vocabulary will make you sound more professional. stop using so often (or at all): like, actually, kinda like, you know, etc

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Let's put a camera in your face turn it on and tell you to make a meaningful review on a car, how quickly you would turn into a babbling Brook

[@aes_ytb]

@@MeynMotorGroup If I am not cut out for it (which I probably am not) I wouldn't be recording myself like this. Or I would practice to improve a lot. Otherwise you won't make significant progress on your channel.

[@pn3751]

@@aes_ytb I think he is doing fine. Remember, he is not news anchor or anything. He is just a normal person who does the car review for average Joes like us to watch. So don't expect something super fancy. He is just fine for what he is doing. Please accept it with your open mind.

[@dago4076]

This or es 300h?