2016 Chevrolet Camaro First Drive

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Brian Makse

Brian Makse

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@guitargodjoe3621
@guitargodjoe3621 9 жыл бұрын
I freakin' LOVE how mean the front end looks! It damn near looks like it's going to transform any second!
@zlwill6485
@zlwill6485 9 жыл бұрын
While the back end looks like a Toyota lol. I'm keeping my 2015 rs screw this haha
@tattude1974
@tattude1974 9 жыл бұрын
Let's hope it does transform...
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Indy Unbeatable I would upgrade to the 2016 just based on the fact that I cant stand the pedal spacing in the 2015.... but thats assuming we are talking manual transmissions.
@keon191
@keon191 9 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% a mustang guy but damn this car looks amazing, if I had the money I'd buy both!
@Jrichhhhhh
@Jrichhhhhh 9 жыл бұрын
what I love about this car is that the people who already own a 5th gen will not feel left out because they look EXTREMELY similar and both equally awesome, but those who want the new one will enjoy a slightly newer feel.
@coureurdebois
@coureurdebois 9 жыл бұрын
i needed my brian!!! i just cat believe this is now lighter than the mustang... like that never happens crazy, then a 335 HP V6 with out any forced induction sounds fun i hope the power delivery is smooth and builds not like the old V6 with 323 HP where theres nothing then suddenly its all at top end. and lastly that interior looks insane such a step up.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 3.6 is great. Really great motor. Interior is awesome. Did two days in the car. Fell in love.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+flunk77 And you should! It's a blast!
@eazyd34
@eazyd34 9 жыл бұрын
I bought the 2015 mustang GT. Im happy with it. I just love all cars. Id love to drive this in manual.
@eazyd34
@eazyd34 9 жыл бұрын
+METALFACEDOOMXXXX you cant mean that....
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX 9 жыл бұрын
+eazyd34 yes it's trash dude,
@hydroboy35th
@hydroboy35th 9 жыл бұрын
+METALFACEDOOMXXXX you obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Judging by your comment the only thing that is trash around here is you.
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX 9 жыл бұрын
+hydroboy35th hahaha stay mad hydrofag mustangs are ugly.
@bash4214
@bash4214 9 жыл бұрын
+METALFACEDOOMXXXX dudee shut uppp, you probably dont even own a car.
@erineojr103
@erineojr103 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, great quality and great shots for ss and wallpapers 🔥
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, but this is an OOOOOLLLLLLLLLDDDD episode!
@ChevyCamaroIsBetter
@ChevyCamaroIsBetter 9 жыл бұрын
Its pretty funny that the new v6 Camaro will be able to keep up with the Challenger RT.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+3rdGenMafia Is that what they're saying? It is pretty quick.
@habibyahya6472
@habibyahya6472 9 жыл бұрын
Challengers were never in on the runway challenges. Its always been mustang vs camaro and who retains the muscle car title. Challengers were always the undoubtedly muscle cars but heavy nevertheless
@Texarmageddon
@Texarmageddon 9 жыл бұрын
+ChevyIsSuperior better specify that RT or you'll have Fanboys all over you... There is the RT and RT Scat Pack.
@ChevyCamaroIsBetter
@ChevyCamaroIsBetter 9 жыл бұрын
Just the regular 375hp RT. The scat pack is a beast tho.
@ChevyCamaroIsBetter
@ChevyCamaroIsBetter 9 жыл бұрын
V6 Camaro is faster than v8 challenger. That's what I'm talking about.
@1vigaro
@1vigaro 9 жыл бұрын
Finally , this looks great . Now I am considering getting one. Thumbs up chevy!!!
@ElectricBlueIX
@ElectricBlueIX 9 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see your review of the SS! Your review of the 5th gen 1LE is the best review I've seen! Keep up the good work!
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+ElectricBlueIX Well I might just have to shoot the SS in 4k, as there is such a demand for that video.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Nick Busato Yeah, it's probably going to be in a scenic location.
@ElectricBlueIX
@ElectricBlueIX 8 жыл бұрын
How bout a test drive with the new 1LE??
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 8 жыл бұрын
We want to, they are just not available yet. I think the buff books got them just a week or so ago.
@HeadUpKneeDown
@HeadUpKneeDown 9 жыл бұрын
Love this gray/machined wheel option.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+HeadUpKneeDown Same here. They look really good.
@vw1610
@vw1610 9 жыл бұрын
great review! Can't wait to drive one if these camaro's.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You'll love it!
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 9 жыл бұрын
Does it have side marker turn lights on the side mirrors or on the body? Also, does it have homelink? This is 2016 so I expect to have them. I like the sunroof option. Are camaros reliable? My concern is the high depreciation.
@ShawnCastator
@ShawnCastator 9 жыл бұрын
Great review! Look forward to seeing more about this car and others in the future.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Shawn Castator Thanks! Be sure to subscribe!
@MrAquinas1
@MrAquinas1 9 жыл бұрын
I am amazed that you would express surprise that a lighter car would get better mileage.
@daseteam
@daseteam 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian. Looking forward to a road test. Perhaps even a back-to-back with the Mustang?
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+daseteam Spring time :)
@trevorwilliams6409
@trevorwilliams6409 7 жыл бұрын
fantastic review as always Brother Brian makse!! all things considered would you recommend?? and also exterior design opinion?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 7 жыл бұрын
Highly recommended in any spec! Haven't driven the ZL1 yet, but soon I'm sure. Design is subjective, but I like it, plus interior is best in the segment.
@trevorwilliams6409
@trevorwilliams6409 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Makse thank you so much Brother, I've considered the v 6 since everything is so good news! thanks for all the kick as reviews!
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Been out shooting another one all day today.
@jasonkerman1514
@jasonkerman1514 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!! Love the car.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Jason Kerman Thanks!
@titaniumplated
@titaniumplated 9 жыл бұрын
Wish I could have been apart of the road trips. Such an awesome adventure to go on!
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Marty Rodriguez I think the leg from San Fan to LA would be the one to do. Really good roads and ends at the LA autoshow. Wonder what GM will show there....
@tonysoprano4624
@tonysoprano4624 9 жыл бұрын
REVIEW THE SS, WE WANT THE SS! either way amazing video/review! keep it coming
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Marcello Graziani Thanks Marcello! We want the SS too! We're going to do an in depth video as soon as we can get one!
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Marcello Graziani I will be pushing for SS vs Mustang GT track battle in spring :)
@thevalleysjc
@thevalleysjc 9 жыл бұрын
I have the v6 2013 but if the v6 gets improved more i dont think there will be a point to get the v8 and with a turbo 4 cylinder reaching as much hp as the 90s v8 its impressive. i like the v8 sound but its not worth it or ideal for the common consumer and besides most v8 owners never even take it to the track let alone drive it everyday which i dont blame them, i think we are close to see a stock twin turbo v6 from gm and ford i would take that than any SS or GT
@ShakingTwoTrees2012
@ShakingTwoTrees2012 9 жыл бұрын
Brian, Presuming the new Camaro V6 RS will be roughly $40,000 all-in Canadian, I'm curious how the new Camaro stacks up against the 2016 Nissan 370Z Enthusiast Edition as a drivers' car? Thanks, Steve
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+ShakingTwoTrees2012 V6 Camaro>370Z any day of the week. The Z is long over due for a full refresh, where as the Camaro is properly modern. More space, refinement, better steering rack and far better interior. I am also not a fan of the clutch or six speed found in the Z. The two examples I have driven suffered from poor NVH in the drivetrain.
@JoshSZHANG
@JoshSZHANG 9 жыл бұрын
Brian, what's the observed highway mpg of this manual-V6 config? Is the 8speed auto going to be much more efficient? (I heard about fuel saving tech only available with the auto.) Is the pricing also the same with either manual or auto? How's head room with the sunroof? Is backseat even.more uninhabitable now because it's smaller? Thanks!
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
We did 21 mpg over 600 highway miles on a brand new engine. I'm still waiting to see pricing, but both are excellent transmissions. Can't go wrong there. Headroom is great, our tester had a sunroof, as you may have noticed. With the new platform, you're inches closer to the floor. Yes, the back seat is less usable for humans than before. Worked great for luggage and camera bags!
@JoshSZHANG
@JoshSZHANG 9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Makse Thank you very much, Brian! Looking forward to your full SS review!
@theshocker_guy5966
@theshocker_guy5966 9 жыл бұрын
Great review, new camaro looks great in every way but the sad thing is for me at 6'6 I couldn't fit in the last Gens funny thing was when I went to the dealers they said don't wast your time just move to the vett. now you're saying this gen is shorter. dam but any way looks great hats off chevy.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+kywildcats “longreach” john You missed the part about the seat being lower. You'll fit fine in this one.
@1776alltheway
@1776alltheway 9 жыл бұрын
awesome review
@030dana
@030dana 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!I like the look of these gen6 V6 RS models. If I didn't just purchase a 15 RS then I'd be all over one of these in hyper blue. 294lbs lighter than previous gen and 335hp, improved handling and braking this model is no joke. Few bolt ons definitely makes this a nice pony car.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+030dana Thanks for watching! Totally agree!
@brianspicer2674
@brianspicer2674 9 жыл бұрын
Great review! Looks like this car had a sunroof in it!? I had a "95" Z28 back in the day, and I really love this new car! How tall are you, and what kind of head room does this new car have for 6 footers? I am 6' , would love this car with a sunroof, but don't think i will be comfortable the the room?
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Spicer We had the sunroof, though if it was up to me I would not option that. Anyways I am almost 5'11" and I had more than enough room. I was nowhere near the back of the seat adjustment.
@brianspicer2674
@brianspicer2674 9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Spicer very cool, Thanks!
@jsiszero
@jsiszero 9 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review
@PepeRoldan1961
@PepeRoldan1961 9 жыл бұрын
+Buck Futter That wasn't a review, that was a Camaro commercial. Light years better? So much lighter, right, like you could tell improved handling if your 200 lb. passenger gets out. Still overweight, still chunky, with what looks like the aero of a brick. This needed to be a totally redesigned tighter proportioned and much lighter world car, about the size of a '67 Camaro or R34 Skyline. Maybe next time.
@TheBjjones
@TheBjjones 9 жыл бұрын
+Pepe ElGrande Another sore, butt hurt hater! LOL
@PepeRoldan1961
@PepeRoldan1961 9 жыл бұрын
+TheBjjones No, not a hater. I'm glad Camaros are still being built, still cooler than most cars, but like a '57 Chevy, don't care to own one. Just my opinion - the car's still porkish and the styling sucks. Personally, into 2nd gen. Firebirds and TAs. So, lack of love does not equal hate, just disappointment.
@TheBjjones
@TheBjjones 9 жыл бұрын
I can respect your opinion.
@jsiszero
@jsiszero 9 жыл бұрын
Pepe ElGrande You're so stupid, did your mother dropped you as a child. Camaro roolz
@jamescave9555
@jamescave9555 9 жыл бұрын
Nice review. So bar none you'd take this over a EB or V6 Mustang but would you take it over a GT Mustang? Secondly who did your color correct for your video. Nice work (was curious if that's in program or if you used a pre-set/filter).
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+James Cave Thanks mate. We gave the new GH4 V-log format a go. It was then graded with "deluts". The Luts are awesome, but there is simply not enough colour depth in the onboard recording, specially in the 1080 we filmed this at. While I will mess about with more "vintage" looks in future films, it wont be as hardcore as this. There is simply too much banding and monoblocking with graded 8 bit log.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+James Cave While I like the V6 Camaro more than the EB, I would likely buy the EB. Sounds crazy, but I know with a simple software flash and intake I am sure I could have 400 HP out of that EB. Now with that covered, base for base I would have the V6. In terms of GT vs SS, no question the SS.
@wiibaron
@wiibaron 9 жыл бұрын
I swore at 4:20 it said crack above the shifter.
@mckookie2967
@mckookie2967 9 жыл бұрын
Have a 2015 Mustang v6. excited to race one of these on my way to college
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+MCKOOKIE On a track I hope.
@mckookie2967
@mckookie2967 9 жыл бұрын
Nick Busato Of course, i meant *after college
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
In the meantime we can just race them on Forza or Project Cars ;)
@mckookie2967
@mckookie2967 9 жыл бұрын
Nick Busato or need for speed
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
Need for realism... (not that forza is perfect)
@youtubetest3770
@youtubetest3770 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian !
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 9 жыл бұрын
My GREATEST concern is that Consumer Reports rated the 2015's reliability as half black circle (below average). My second concern is the high depreciation.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+mrpmj00 My greatest concern with Consumer Reports is that it lost its integrity over their Tesla rating debacle.
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 9 жыл бұрын
What happened with Tesla ?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+mrpmj00 They said it was the best car ever. Then they retracted that statement because, well, they're idiots.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
One other think to note legs need to be straight and feet center on the pedal not off center.If someone has a foot wider than mine they will have a difficult time shifting.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella I wear big, wide skate shoes without issue. Still not sure what your issue is.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella If my legs are straight then how the heck am I going to get any sort of modulation in my inputs to the pedals? Sorry mate, but you cant be that far from the pedals.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
+Nick Busato Not straight out of course you legs have to bend to work the pedals you do not understand what I am talking about.your legs should be perpendicular to one another your left leg should not be twisted in to get to the clutch pedal and if both feet are on the pedals they should not touch does that clarify it for you. and if you read all the other posts you will see that I mention other cars having more room.
@darrelladams25
@darrelladams25 9 жыл бұрын
brain makse will you make a video of the ss version of the Camaro?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
Yep, a proper in depth one as soon as we can get our hands on one.
@franciscoespirito-santo3121
@franciscoespirito-santo3121 9 жыл бұрын
As usual your review is first class. I prefer the Camaro to the Mustang. It's a pity that Chevrolet left Portugal...or I'd be highly tempted to buy the version with the 2.0 litre turbo (for tax/price reasons). Thank you again for your insight!
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Francisco Espírito-Santo While its a shame you cant buy some americana car wise, I you get the awesome hot hatches we can only dream of. :)
@thepowerofdreams6816
@thepowerofdreams6816 9 жыл бұрын
Would be pretty nice driving a 911 Turbo or an F12 Berlinetta from Buenos Aires to Charleston
@MrSam603
@MrSam603 9 жыл бұрын
1 more year and this bad boy will be mine!!!!
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Sam Prasla Cool! Which one are you getting?
@MrSam603
@MrSam603 9 жыл бұрын
Probably the normal v6. Manual or auto will depend.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Sam Prasla Manual please. The car sounds awesome BTW... yes, the six pot!
@Jbreezzyyy
@Jbreezzyyy 8 жыл бұрын
How would you compare the infotainment system here with the CUE in the ATS-V??
@Marweezy1992
@Marweezy1992 9 жыл бұрын
I can't figure out witch red color goes better on this new Camaro?
@zenosamafuturo6651
@zenosamafuturo6651 9 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to get it.!
@friedchickenbucket
@friedchickenbucket 9 жыл бұрын
i'm considering the camaro, but now im torn between SS and the V6. I'm not sure on what to do. I know the SS is faster, but I need to add practicality to the mix. I might be taking the car to work everyday. What do you guys think?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+абд If the SS didn't exist, the RS would be brilliant on its own. The problem is that the SS does indeed exist and it's even better. Get the SS. It'll get decent mileage if you drive it right, but it'll have the power you want when you put the hammer down.
@erineojr103
@erineojr103 3 жыл бұрын
Camaro all the way 💪🏽
@RussiancarguyTx
@RussiancarguyTx 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was looking for the V6 reviews on this year
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+RussianCarGuy I think all the reviews you will see over the next 4-5 months will be only V8 and V6s. The four pot is not available to the press till march I believe.
@peckdecks
@peckdecks 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the an early video. In all honesty it's not visually appealing mostly because the design clings to the fifth generation. That aspect feels a bit old already, but the driving experience from what I gathered here seems like a different ball game. Thanks for the insight. (:
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Oliver! This thing is a great drive. I'm currently riding shotgun and it's very comfortable, as well.
@TheFirstCause
@TheFirstCause 9 жыл бұрын
+Oliver Rojas It is a classic design though. Porsche and BWM 3 series hardly change over the years. They sell well and people like the shape. GM said they felt they never should have left the original shape after the 1st gen. The 5th gen and now 6 continue that heritage, mostly ignoring the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gens.
@peckdecks
@peckdecks 9 жыл бұрын
TheFirstCause You make a valid point. However, that's a completely different market of luxury, performance, and design. I predict the sales will suffer for the Camaro. Mostly because it has to compete with the Ford Mustang. You can't mention one without the other. The Mustang has a more dramatic design than it's older model, and will appeal more to the overall population. I know that most people purchase vehicles based on how a car looks, and because this 2016 model isn't anything we haven't seen before it'll have a rough start. You can get yourself a 5th gen' and most people won't be able to tell the difference. You can argue that it'll be bought because of the driving experience, but as I said before the market for pony cars is more based on looks than actual performance. For an affordable price of course. Which gave rise to the V6 and turbo 4 cylinder models. Although, only time can really tell if my predication will hold it's ground.
@yudichen3989
@yudichen3989 9 жыл бұрын
How much you bought this one?
@dp2world23
@dp2world23 9 жыл бұрын
Isn't this car built on the same platform as the ATS coupe?
@TerribleWone
@TerribleWone 9 жыл бұрын
+Darrell Parker Jr Yep, and thats a good thing :)
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 9 жыл бұрын
I wished it was even shorter because 188 inches is just 3 inches shorter than my 2014 Toyota Highlander SUV with 3 rows. It should have been 175 inches or less to match Porsche Cayman.
@osmankhlaifa6488
@osmankhlaifa6488 9 жыл бұрын
How much does this car cost ?
@focused313
@focused313 9 жыл бұрын
I have to give it to these car manufacturers, they have made n/a v6s surpass v8s from just ten years ago.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
In your video you talk about Fuel economy on the SS. If you are looking for fuel economy,My Point was to buy the basic CAMARO with the 4 cyl turbo. As far as the pedal box I find it confining I have driven small and large cars with more spacing in the pedal box. One foot on the brake and one on the clutch feet should not touch. (old school rule).As far as the back seat they should not even bother with it. Maybe more( And I use the term loosely) trunk space. older 80s and90s Camaros had more room in the trunk and back seat. I am 5 '10"and I was able to sit in the back seat not confortably but it was possible. This car has useless space.I think I was to the point in both statements.A little criticism to GM and the conclusion and experience of a 35 year Veteran in the automotive field building racing cars for myself. People will respond to someone that has a unbiased opinion that has look at the car.One other point the SS has summer tires on it they really do not like temps below 40 degs, JUST a FYI for the ones who buy the SS and are unfimilar with having rear wheeldrive and a 8 CYL engine.
@TheMacsaan
@TheMacsaan 9 жыл бұрын
your video looks really artistic, do you use a filter or something?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
Nick does his magic in post production, yes. It's a lot more work than just a filter.
@TerribleWone
@TerribleWone 9 жыл бұрын
+TheMacsaan It was us dipping our toes into a different style of colour grading along with a whole new colour format for the camera. Offered a lot of flexibility, but I don't think I will be returning to it in the future. We ended up loosing a lot of the cameras performance working in LOG format. You will still see some nicer, but more subtle filter applications in future films. The GTS vs GTS was pretty heavy handed colour wise as well. The future DB9 GT film should be a better balance.
@quickdubbs328
@quickdubbs328 9 жыл бұрын
Explain more detail on the Apple radio. I don't have an I- phone. Android! Would that make a difference?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Quincy Hall You need an iPhone for Apple Car Play. The 2016 Honda Civic I recently tested has Android Auto. Not sure which new cars have it, but I'm sure there's a list out there somewhere.
@dallastrae
@dallastrae 9 жыл бұрын
i got a 2015 Camaro 2ls, 2 months ago but i want one of these! ):
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I am going to start what chassis platform is this car built on? What driveline Platform is it built on? What is so special about this car that you think its better than a corvette or a ATS cadallic? And the most important what OB2 system dose it use and can it be modified for a SUPERCHARGER OR TURBO?
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
Aldo your evaluation of the paint job on the vehicle under the hood dorr jambs etc and the headliner with leather interior?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella Why are you asking questions? I thought you were the expert. What about my offer to bring a car so that you can demonstrate your expertise?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella Of course. Things like "under the hood dorr jambs etc and the headliner with leather interior" are very important to the average Camaro buyer.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I am giving you something to look at. I already know about this since 2010 and my 2015 Impala LTZ my wifes car.And also Working with the engineer's from GM working on the Hydrogen power Equinox. JUST A FYI.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night. JUST A FYI.
@Zarth177
@Zarth177 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome Car I Love The New 2016 Camaro
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I agree its a pain follow post and I am trying to do this on a phone,
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella Buy a computer.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I have 5 computers 3 tabs and 5 cell phones please get real and a laptop for dignostics on GM, FORD, CHRYSLER, CRAINE CARRIER OVERSEAS DISEASE VEHICLES MACK CUMMINS DETROIT AND ONE THAT WORKS IN A CLASS 8 EMMISIONS LAB Mate!
@JackF99
@JackF99 9 жыл бұрын
Blocky styling is improved but still not attractive compared to a Mustang. At least it is getting down to sporty size. Hopefully the massive Challenger will drop 600-800 lbs and a lot of inches one of these days.
@phouthon
@phouthon 9 жыл бұрын
How does this drive compare to the Ecoboost mustang?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Phouthon Ourn Faster, handles better, better steering, better shift action from the manual, massively better interior.
@phouthon
@phouthon 9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Makse that's a polite way to say it is better in every way
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Phouthon Ourn Appreciate the feedback. We weren't able to produce a thorough review given our timelines here. We definitely will with the SS.
@renebt2207
@renebt2207 9 жыл бұрын
how does the handling compare to last gens 1le.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Rene Bravo Great question. I basically drove them back to back in the summer. The 1LE feels like a proper track car with it's suspension, great seats, etc, but the new one is faster because it's lighter and ultimately handles better. Better seating position, better interior, and hopefully they come out with a new 1LE soon.
@renebt2207
@renebt2207 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Makse would you say it would be worth the wait for the new gen versus settling for an older 1le?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Rene Bravo The other consideration is that the 1LE is a proper factory special and the SS is a run of the mill production car. If I'm making the decision today, for a daily driver I'd get the SS, and for a weekend car I'd get the 1LE.
@renebt2207
@renebt2207 9 жыл бұрын
So it sounds like they are different beasts but I probably wouldn't be disappointed with either.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Rene Bravo They really are. Both are superb and that decision comes down to personal preference.
@Tax_Master_DFW
@Tax_Master_DFW 9 жыл бұрын
How was the trunk space and size?
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Rene Farria Space is decent, but the opening shape is a big issue. Luggage cases on the larger side may have issue fitting into the opening.
@geneva1999
@geneva1999 9 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the price yet? Will the V6 start at 23K like the 2015?
@TotalMCAddict
@TotalMCAddict 9 жыл бұрын
+geneva1999 Idk where you live, but the pricing in Canada is 27K for the V6. GM sales persons were telling me all about how each trim costs. I work at a GM dealership so it helps haha
@geneva1999
@geneva1999 9 жыл бұрын
+TotalMCAddict Thanks, I'm in the USA. The chevy dot com website still just says coming soon, doesn't have any info.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+AUSTIN107316 Sorry guys, I just checked the USB from the event and it did not have pricing. I likely have the Canadian pricing in my email if you want those numbers.
@Mario55627
@Mario55627 9 жыл бұрын
2015 dodge challenger 392 scat pack shaker
@JanMichaelFranklin
@JanMichaelFranklin 9 жыл бұрын
I just wish they had done a bit more to make it distinguishable from the previous generation.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Jan-Michael Franklin Then they may have faced the problem ford hand with it being too much different. Its a hard balance to find. I think in person the RS is pretty stunning, and I was never a camaro guy.
@JanMichaelFranklin
@JanMichaelFranklin 9 жыл бұрын
+Nick Busato I haven't seen too many complaining about the looks of the new Mustang, but it's easily distinguishable from the old one. I don't think the new Camaro pulled this off as effectively. it still looka good, but also still looks too much like 5he old one in my oponion.
@Texarmageddon
@Texarmageddon 9 жыл бұрын
+Nick Busato I don't think Ford will face a problem... Ford didn't see sales any where close to what it's seeing now during the 2010 redesign or when they brought out the 5.0... so it's safe to say the new mustang is more popular than the last generation. This mustang will be the FIRST muscle/pony car to eclipse 100,000 units in a year since 2007. It's safe to say this mustang was a success. How things will turn out for the Camaro is hard to say... it's heavy advertisement from transformers and being hiatus definitely helped sales... but they never eclipsed 90k units even then but sold better than the mustang all these years. I can't wait to see who'll take the lead in sales this year.... I've been itching to know if my assumptions are right
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
The 2016 Camaro sales really wont factor in until next year. The mustang has a full year head start in terms of availability.
@santti99
@santti99 9 жыл бұрын
Was this the 2LT V6?
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+santti99 V6. The 2L wont be available for testing until March I think. The convertible review event will also be the first time we (and the rest of the world) drives the 2L turbo.
@santti99
@santti99 9 жыл бұрын
ok. THank you Nick
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
NP
@barrazajr775
@barrazajr775 8 жыл бұрын
I really think Ford needs to give the mustang a couple updates and new features for 2017 to compete with the new camaro
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 8 жыл бұрын
+barraza jr Ford has a lot of work to do to compete with the Camaro.
@IlhamDefraN
@IlhamDefraN 9 жыл бұрын
why most people talking about comparison chevy vs ford car, and less about comparing chrysler/dodge to some of them
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+ilham Defra That's exactly why, mate.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you don't understand left foot pushing clutch down right foot on brake two feet hit when center on pedal.this is not a race car that every inch counts.the legs are not straight with the pedals aka small SMALL PEDAL BOX!
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I have been a Chevy fan for 45 plus years and a Master Technician 30 plus yearsThis is my opinion. The car may be 200-400 pounds lighter but on the SS the fuel savings is inconcqutial to mention . The only way to get fuel savings with the SS is to keep your foot out of the floorboard or get the 4 Cylinder turbo. As far as the pedals they are still to close to each other a 5 10 person with average size 10 1/2 foot can still hit both pedals.Yea I have driven the car I do not agree with every thing you say! Please be more forth coming with your statements.The car is smaller.It is base on the ATS Cadillac and if you sat in that car this will give you a good idea of size.What you are paying for is the Corvette Engine and the mag suspension if you get it.This car is not for the faint hearted, you can get into trouble real quick if you are unfimilar with HIGH HP rear wheel drive cars. Add a supercharger and you will have a monster if you can get the power to the ground.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella Vito, I'm not sure what you're complaining about here exactly. We covered the fact that it's smaller and lighter in each configuration. As well, this car is not difficult to drive. The chassis is calibrated brilliantly and feedback is superb. Only oafs "can get into trouble real quick". I'm baffled by the fact that you're having trouble in the pedal box with ten-and-a-half shoes, so how did I find it perfect for my twelves?
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella Sorry mate, but the pedal spacing is FAR better than the outgoing model. For me I found the accelerator and brake pedal were too far apart on the old cars. The pedal box is far easier to heel and toe.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
+Nick Busato I have been in STIs with more room my Nephew owns and Drift races Professional he is third generation.I can tell that you are not mechanically incline so I will try and put things in prospective A 2015 Impala LTZ has a bigger pedal box which I own.A 96 astro van has a small pedal box but is comparable to 2015 and 2016 Camaro My 84 Grand Prix has a bigger pedal box and weighs 700 pounds lighter than the Camaro and has A 1967 327 CI IN IT.The 2016 Camaro Is A ATS Cadillac body with a corvette engine with a few more bells and whistles.It is a off the shelf car. I know this is hard to accept and so of you young pups can't handle the truth. But remember this 18 year old kids went to war for this country and gave there lives a lot if young pups are offended by the truth.mate.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
"I can tell that you are not mechanically incline" I may have went to school for engineering.... c2.staticflickr.com/6/5775/21558278993_47606df15e_b.jpg Cheers!
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
+Nick Busato So what are you showing me a picture if a coil over.
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 4 жыл бұрын
As messed up as the rest of the car may be, Chevrolet did right by keeping the V6 with the Camaro
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I guess I will have to take your comments and put them back up.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella Looking at it, I think you're deleting your own comments, mate. I was away from KZbin all day yesterday.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Makse I see you arw deleting you comments again just remember I have them saved each time you post something.I am a man and take RESPONCEABLITY for my actions.
@ricolie3541
@ricolie3541 9 жыл бұрын
Mclaren 570s review please
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
Please ask McLaren to send us a car.
@adamkicks10
@adamkicks10 9 жыл бұрын
1:52
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+adamkicks10 Do you troll videos looking for mistakes?
@javvenlapierre1069
@javvenlapierre1069 9 жыл бұрын
it look like the old one ill wait
@scootergunsmoke8542
@scootergunsmoke8542 6 жыл бұрын
we need the 5.3 in the camaro
@MayorMcCheese78
@MayorMcCheese78 9 жыл бұрын
But can you see out of it? Is what every Mustang fanboy will say. I don't need Apple Carplay. Cortona already can send messages for me through my bluetooth on Windows Phone. Cant wait to drive one and trade in my 13 RS for it.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+MayorMcCheese78 I found visibility to be fine, even with the lower roofline.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+MayorMcCheese78 The thing is that you sit lower to the floor, so visibility is much improved. Windows Phone? Is that really a thing?
@MayorMcCheese78
@MayorMcCheese78 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Makse Sorry Brian, Im not a Apple fanboy or Android nut hugger like the rest of America.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+MayorMcCheese78 Quite seriously, I've never seen a Windows phone?
@ShawnCastator
@ShawnCastator 9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Makse Good to know about visibility. I read a review online and someone was saying they didn't improve the back pillars because Camaro enthusiasts didn't really complain about it. But if lowering the front seat made it easier to see, I am all for it.
@RichardJoashTan
@RichardJoashTan 9 жыл бұрын
I hope I would buy the SS in Automatic! :D
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
So Brian why are you taking do your comments? Are you afraid someone might think negative about you?and why don't you answer me where did you get the Camaro to do the Video if you are not being sponsored?
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
Brian why are you taking down your comments?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella I don't ever delete comments. I don't know what you're talking about.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella If you can't figure out where the Camaro came from, you've got some serious issues, mate. And, no, I'm not afraid of what keyboard cowboys say about me on the Internet. I can't believe I had to type that.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
So tell me everyone were the Camaro came from if you do not get paid to do a Video? Secondly I have not taking down any of my Comments yours are the only ones that have disappeared.I have all of yiur replys on emails this is your email,and I quote, Brian Makse +Vito Cialdella Vito, I'm not sure what you're complaining about here exactly. We covered the fact that it's smaller and lighter in each configuration. As well, this car is not difficult to drive. The chassis is calibrated brilliantly and feedback is superb. Only oafs "can get into trouble real quick". I'm baffled by the fact that you're having trouble in the pedal box with ten-and-a-half shoes, so how did I find it perfect for my twelves? Reply View all comments Unqoute, mate
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Makse So were are your comments? I just posted one your post's back for you! I cannot remove your comments only you can I have all my comments up without your responses.Secondly you refuse to admit were the Camaro came from and if you were paid to do the video. So as stated before The Camaro SS is not a unique car it is A Cadillac ATS in disquise with A Corvette Stingray Engine in the Vehicle a Common trait that GM has a habit of doing for 45 plus years.This pratice has been going on since the 70s SO when you say this is a unique car I have no ####### idea what the hell you are talking about Yosemite?
@JoseAyala-qu8cy
@JoseAyala-qu8cy 8 жыл бұрын
So, flat bottom steering wheels are lame? Come on, they look good and drive good! Do you feel a need to critizice something?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Ayala They're lame, trendy, and lack any real function. They're a cheap trick used by interior designers to tart up a cockpit. I was around for the first trendy application of flat bottomed wheels in the 90s. They were useless then and they're useless now.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
Again you said you were getting a car,after I said I WAS willing to but one.I also said my Nephew was going to be dyno one. I FID NOT SAY THAT WAS THE CAR TO BE REVIEWED!Do you understand now or do I have type more details for you?
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella What does "fid" mean?
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
did
@SpyderRios
@SpyderRios 9 жыл бұрын
Flat bottom wheel because racecar and so your belly doesn't get on the way of driving. With that being said, how is this new Camaro better than the Mustang you didn't explain that at all.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+SpyderRios Its not for your belly, its to aid in getting in and out for your car by providing more room for our legs.
@SpyderRios
@SpyderRios 9 жыл бұрын
I think it's because Racercar but it also helps the typical large American Specimen fit in the car.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+SpyderRios Yes, in this case, "because racecar." I was just pointing out to why they made wheels like this in racecars.
@jimmorrison5323
@jimmorrison5323 9 жыл бұрын
+SpyderRios because racecar? because english?
@SpyderRios
@SpyderRios 9 жыл бұрын
+Jim Morrison not reading you.
@ridgeline006
@ridgeline006 9 жыл бұрын
i always say buy what you like you are the one paying the notes chevy ford dodge and be happy my two cent
@RealtimeReviews613
@RealtimeReviews613 9 жыл бұрын
Love the channel but not a fan of this instagram filter! Not enough color depth and contrast
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
We were taking about that today. That's no cheap filter, and I'll let Nick respond.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+DoubleD 613 I made the call to test the new LOG format in my GH4 on this video. The trouble is that it was shot in 1080P on the internal 8bit encoding. Turned out to be much less robust than my earlier tests at 4k. Retiring the log format until (if ever) I move to an external recorder with 10bit encoding.
@jamescave9555
@jamescave9555 9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Makse I actually like the look. =)
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+James Cave Thanks, James!
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+James Cave While the look is interesting, it resulted in too much degradation. Sometimes you just have to try new things and see how they turn out. Sadly this did not work. I am moving to another possible solution for our upcoming Aston Martin video. That video will also be a return to 4K like our ATS-V, Viper ACR, Z06 and CTS-V videos.
@bash4214
@bash4214 9 жыл бұрын
I want one just like dat but ss
@josemontano9210
@josemontano9210 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for NOT using the yellow car. Hate that F ing color.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Jose montano I wish we had a choice.
@brandonblack2095
@brandonblack2095 9 жыл бұрын
*GT 350R* _would brutally destroy this camaro nuff said_
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Black The GT350 R is how much more money than the V6 Camaro? Not even remote competitors.
@jeffcharlton9660
@jeffcharlton9660 5 жыл бұрын
No shit Sherlock
@MrGovenator1
@MrGovenator1 9 жыл бұрын
Its unfortunate that the Mustang in my opinion is the much better looking car. I love the interior in this new Camaro, and with it riding on the ATS platform I imagine the performance is fantastic. I just can't get over how they look.... They just look like pigs, slimmer pigs then the last generation, but still pigs.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+MrGovenator1 Design is subjective, so that's always a long conversation. The new platform takes the Camaro to another level.
@MrGovenator1
@MrGovenator1 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Makse Of course. Regardless, can't wait to start seeing them on the road.
@MrGovenator1
@MrGovenator1 9 жыл бұрын
tobysoter No, every one has noticed this.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+MrGovenator1 Indeed. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but it's laughable that a company with the resources of Ford can't come up with an original design language.
@PHOBIAx57x
@PHOBIAx57x 9 жыл бұрын
You can blame the focus groups Chevrolet interviewed on the looks. They probably surveyed older men who were fans of the 5th gen because the focus groups basically said don't change the styling. I too was hoping they would have went the same route as Ford with the styling and I wish they also would have tried to improve the visibility.
@ICYASIAN95
@ICYASIAN95 9 жыл бұрын
This or a grand sport c6 someone help lol
@jdlarson11
@jdlarson11 9 жыл бұрын
No talk about the motor? WTF
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+JDLARSON11 We had the V6. Ask me anything about it.... yes it sounds good btw.
@CeeStyleDj
@CeeStyleDj 9 жыл бұрын
no offense but the first 15 seconds of that intro was a little lackluster a lot of people are seeing this all new Camaro for the very first time and there was absolutely no excitement upon seeing the car based on the introduction.
@CeeStyleDj
@CeeStyleDj 9 жыл бұрын
great review none the less !!
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+CeeStyleDj Launch events make for super compressed shoots. Brian edited and uploaded this while still in the middle of this event! Anyways I am sure we will more than make up for it when we get the SS later in the year.
@CeeStyleDj
@CeeStyleDj 9 жыл бұрын
+Nick Busato I gotcha. I was hoping more for a "Well, here it is!" type of deal but I understand the time constraints!
@wiibaron
@wiibaron 9 жыл бұрын
+CeeStyleDj Then you need to increase your attention span! They probably have a pill for that, I think I saw a commercial for it...
@CeeStyleDj
@CeeStyleDj 9 жыл бұрын
+wiibaron You obviously didn't understand my comment. My intention span is just fine thank you very much.
@RxSwolldier
@RxSwolldier 9 жыл бұрын
flat bottoms arent lame dude
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
Yes they are.
@kelvinchannel9592
@kelvinchannel9592 9 жыл бұрын
it's actually pretty sporty to see a flat bottom steering wheel
@tattude1974
@tattude1974 9 жыл бұрын
They're lame because everyone is saying that now... they were the rage for a while and still are for sports or super cars but everyone is simply jumping on the flat bottom wheels are lame wagon, for no other reason than everyone of their peers are saying it... They actually have a purpose and look great in certain cars...
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+LJ Balongue I have to say I love the look of the new Audi flat bottom wheels that are popping up on their newer RS models. I think the R8 and TT have the wheel I am talking about.
@RxSwolldier
@RxSwolldier 9 жыл бұрын
Nick Busato Yea i totally agree, plus you get more leg room and better style, doesnt ruin the steering in anyway so why the hate?
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I am not Chevy basher but all you young guys have no idea what room is in the pedal box.Drive say a 1956 chevy belair or 1960 chevy apache with 3 on the tree and maybe that will help you to understand a little more room.Lets face it GM took the alpha platform chassis and built the GTO again and called it a Camaro with a few more bells and whistles.
@CannAwsm
@CannAwsm 5 жыл бұрын
Not a good quality camera u r filming with...... Video should be vivid
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 5 жыл бұрын
You need either A) glasses or B) a better screen.
@apacheone3643
@apacheone3643 9 жыл бұрын
I reply to were I am waiting for you to get the car.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Vito Cialdella I can't even begin to comprehend what you're trying to say. Regardless, you said you had an SS last week. Didn't you film your review then?
@alanl9497
@alanl9497 9 жыл бұрын
You need to be really tall to enjoy this car :(
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@alanl9497
@alanl9497 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Makse There's another video of the 2016 Camaro, and the girl driving it is 5'8". She states that the seat is way too low and the doorway is very high for her. She also complains of the those two bulges of the speedometer that are on the driver's side. I just hope you can adjust the driver's and passenger's seat too.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+ese grillo There's TONS of adjustment in the seats, as well as the steering column. There's absolutely no problem with the ergonomics of the car. Most car reviewers don't know how to sit properly, let alone drive. I've been teaching racing and high performance driving professionally for only about twenty years...
@ICYASIAN95
@ICYASIAN95 9 жыл бұрын
Chevy should just sell the Camaro in v8 models only
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Andrew tran I think that would push the car too close to the C7 in terms of market. Sure its still a little cheaper, slower and has four seat, but the Camaro is a volume car with diversity in its portfolio.
@KINGTA32
@KINGTA32 9 жыл бұрын
he looks like a big mini me
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Tam Brown What's your point?
@KINGTA32
@KINGTA32 9 жыл бұрын
Obviously the point is you look like a over grown verne troyer but its cool tho good review good car
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 9 жыл бұрын
+Tam Brown Is that all you got? Your first impulse to be that guy? You must be very charming in person.
@242HP
@242HP 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a great looking car inside and out.... much better than the previous Camaro, IMO, BUT, historically Chevy and GM products have been near the bottom in terms of reliability. My 2006 Chevy Monte Carlo was the most unreliable car I've owned. I'd have to give the Ford Mustang the edge over the Camaro in terms of reliability.
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+242HP The six gen camaro is now being built in a different factory, so some "issues" may not be seen in this new one.
@justindesilets3526
@justindesilets3526 7 жыл бұрын
Lame flat bottom portion to the steering? You mean NICE flat bottom!
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 7 жыл бұрын
Same lame design that I drove in the GTC4Lusso last week.
@pwrshots
@pwrshots 8 жыл бұрын
your shoulders are below the belt line. guess you won't be hanging your arm out the window HotRodder style.
@BrianMakse
@BrianMakse 8 жыл бұрын
+pwrshots That's terribly annoying, I know.
@r3rd698
@r3rd698 9 жыл бұрын
what happens when you dont have a shit apple phone?
@nickbusato7138
@nickbusato7138 9 жыл бұрын
+Mac Stuffy I think there is support for android now on the production cars. I was not able to test it though since my OS was out of date. Maybe check GM's youtube channel for info on the topic?
@r3rd698
@r3rd698 9 жыл бұрын
Good idea
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