2016 SCV Drum Line - Denton, Texas Lot (July 21)

2016 Santa Clara Vanguard Battery in the lot at the Red River Thunder (DCI Denton) Show in Denton, Texas.
No editing, no tripod, no fancy cameras or microphones. Just me, my phone, and a street light.
Sorry, Cymbals. There was a tree blocking my view of you guys.

[@hooviedoovie5220]

i absolutely love scv's tenor writing, it's not just the snare book with 4 drums, there's their own parts even when they're playing at the same time as the snares

[@Xayr]

the quads are on FIRE

[@programmedwrong3795]

Xayr Whenever i want to hear a good drumline i come back here. This video showcases the best of what a drum line can do. Those tenors are insane!

[@corndog2184]

My percussion teacher is the 3rd to the right in the quads😂

[@missioncreekstyle3814]

Kent Cater (legendary bass tech) on low toms.

[@HE360]

MANNN, they make actual MUSIC with those drums!!! I love it!! It like those drums are talking and telling a story!!! MAN, that's what's up!!!!!

[@missioncreekstyle3814]

That's SCV for ya. "1 & 2 & Beedly Beedly BOP BOP" (Fred Sanford).

[@missioncreekstyle3814]

I marched SCV (horns) in the Sanford era. He was a super cool dude to me, and to everyone. Even to this 17 year old horn nerd. I went to high school with Rob Carson, Daryl Cox, Keith Wald, and other JONZ. Several other SCV Hall of Famers too in the late 70s-early 80s. Our freaky "show band" at Cupertino HS AKA "the marching millions" (250 strong) turned out so many SCV superstars: horns, guard, and drums. It was not uncommon to see members of the SCV rifle line practicing in their front yards in my Santa Clara 'hood in the 70s. Great times.

[@ethanpierce324]

@@missioncreekstyle3814 that's a neat story!

[@TheRyry97]

These kids get served thoroughly cleaned beets for every meal.

[@drumcorps0junkie]

🍵🎶🍗

[@missioncreekstyle3814]

Royer's "spaghetti sauce" which has "secret" ingredients.

[@DennisJohnsonDrummer]

Congratulations on winning the Sanford Award this year. Well-deserved!

[@programmedwrong3795]

I want to thank the camera operator. I can see what snares and tenors are doing. Usually after watching these I need sea sick pills.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

aMaNDa Rescues : Yeah, I tried for that. I hate it when the camera pans too quickly. That and we typically miss out on some good stuff happening off-screen. I also got lucky anticipating where Paul was going to bring the battery together.

[@programmedwrong3795]

Michael Reed Good job. Everyone wants to see snares and tenors.

[@duncansk4404]

Camera operators need to be totally retrained. The simplest and most basic concept is to completely understand what the average viewer wants to see. My favorite example is in pro sports, particularly, baseball and football. It disgusts me how much time is spent with things other than the sport. The sport is about the players, not just close ups of the manager eating sunflower seeds or a player blowing snot out of one nostril. The point is the fan goes to a game and watches what he wants and when home the fan watches what the camera operator dictates. Often it's just a couple of players omitting the rest. Boring! DCI is generally very good at not omitting the whole field. Bravo!

[@zechariah2010]

this drumline rocks, I expect to see high scores in the finals. ultra clean everyone. tenors you guys know how to do it.

[@ThePtowndrummr]

I can't help but laugh at how flat BD's book is compared to this. Every year too, not just this year.

[@johndeer4789]

Preach.

[@blueturtleteo65]

smoshman6000 I couldn't disagree more, BDs whole show is just hold and play a cool lick, rest for a while and repeat, vanguard plays constantly and this book is considerable harder then previous years, not only in the notes but with the musicality which is something I think BD is severely lacking in

[@malditobandito98]

BlueTurtle teo FINALLY! Someone gets it!

[@bobbybruchetta2649]

That is why scv is taking bd out in drum scores...

[@samasama8851]

scvorangketiga

[@Ozzy_88]

Scott Johnson said scv was boring and BD always pushed the envelope, I believe in 2015 or 14 he said that. well scv must have herd and said "hmm ok" and killed it!

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

Os Z I also heard from some of the 2016 SCV battery techs that after Paul had the opener written there was an apparent miscommunication amongst the design team regarding tempo. He, allegedly, wrote that part of the book to groove and work 10 bpm slower than eventually performed. The battery was playing through the opener before the staff figured out the goof. Paul opted to keep it as written because the line was throwing down. That's the story I heard.

[@malditobandito98]

Os Z Scojo has NO right to be saying that their book is "boring". I mean, if you haven't noticed, they play the same damn rhythm in EVERY show for about 20 measures, in 2016, it was where the snares were all running up to line up and even the tenors and basses play the same damn rhythm. At least Rennick has style and uniqueness to his writing, Scojo is losing it. That's insane how someone like that can be so childish.

[@samanthabree1246]

And Wayne Downey cuts out measures from his old finale copy of BD 2000 and pastes it together with the occasional new melody and calls it a new brass book. 😎

[@programmedwrong3795]

SCV always Kills! Sorry Blue Devils, but SCV has been killing it for years.

[@golfgaming13]

Mad Minute don't be sorry they BD could be so much better than they are now

[@alienetalero]

Since 2016, that's true

[@thecontractor1544]

Smelly Web no Top Secret

[@ethans-d6105]

drumlines on concrete sound awesome

[@VaughnDJs]

smooth, even, uniform, consistent. the basics before all the hype.

[@itsjustalychannel]

damn I wish I could play my quads like that

[@Dwightt101]

you can, keep practicing

[@drumbergunnerer3162]

Man I love this line. You all are so clean and whoever tunes your equipment sure are good at it. Great job.

[@FTTPRO]

I can just imagine looking at the sheet music at this and thinking, this is just way to much ink.

[@jameseriksen1692]

every tech from coats and BD this year can learn a thing or 2 from the master

[@kikeenriquez4436]

Wow. Saw a BD video and was disappointed at how sloppy it sounded. Then I heard this. Faith in clean drumming restored

[@kietey14]

Bill Bachman!?

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

Word.

[@1Co118]

Is he the new caption?

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

+Big D No, Paul Rennick (clicking sticks in the video) is still the man. Bill Bachman was in the lot (he lives in the area) and was recording a former student (quad). Trivia Sidenote: he also played a big part in designing the Dynasty quads several years ago. Rennick helped design the Dynasty Custom Elite Snare Drums seen/heard in this video.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

+S-L-A-L yep

[@davidlong2868]

Can't wait to see these guys in cali,my marching band is in the Rose Bowl too.

[@CharlieAI87]

the snare lick @ 4:16 has haunted my dreams the past few nights.

[@Koliflower]

hand: "sup" tenor: "yo what's good"

[@michaelkiser5887]

I love the guy at the very end ... "Oh my God!!" I think the same thing every time I see SCV.

[@flybar3344]

This drumline is just better than everyone else

[@smdftb8495]

I don't say something like this lightly, but this a top 3 quadline ever. 2001/2011 Devs and these dudes.

[@rawhidelamp]

Idk man, Phantom 2010 is pretty good

[@smdftb8495]

@@rawhidelamp they sure are. Top 10 quad break for me too

[@rawhidelamp]

@@smdftb8495 heck yeah, i just finished learning that break and im getting the speed up, lots of fun

[@johnandreicaro5698]

Is this the future of drum line WTF!!

[@Queeze101]

Bill Bachman stopped by to see how his reincarnations are doing.

[@kristianbras]

Thanks for the steady filming! +1 for the quality of the sound. Love the vid!

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

Kristian Thanks! I was working to keep it steady. Technology is pretty great, too.

[@stephensmith6790]

The only original line in dci...period.

[@RickCogley]

Go Jonz! Thanks for getting this.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

No problem. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@joeyllanos7573]

A LEGACY OF EXCELLENCE!!!!

[@Inspadave]

How is anybody beating this?

[@darrylemooreii4424]

They might not be. DCI is holding perc scores until finals.

[@johndeer4789]

+Darryle Moore yeah but the scores get leaked sometimes and these guys aren't winning like at all.

[@darrylemooreii4424]

Seriously!?!?!?

[@Inspadave]

Darryle Moore At the show before San Antonio they placed 5th! Fucking 5th place.

[@johndeer4789]

+Darryle Moore the got second at San Antonio

[@davidlong2868]

blue what?

[@grayson-bubbles-light5025]

wow, so above the competition

[@AustinWeeks]

1:44 Hi Bill

[@masonbose7]

isnt't there like a 17 year old kid on snare? he marched troopers last year

[@freq6167]

Yea he's the shortest one on the snare line his name is Bryce

[@LegacyGarunix]

Hell yeah he is. He's a total beast. Won the system blue snare solo competition too

[@JBMayton]

5:55 "my god"

[@matthewoncale3367]

this book is absolutely monsterus

[@drumcorps0junkie]

5:09-5:16 What is that quint 🥁 break and HTF did Mr. Rennick write such a complex of notes in that short amount of seconds, let alone teach and watch his students play it accurately? 💦😂🤔🎶👌😎😇😎👌🎶🤔😂💦

[@victorkindermann8559]

interesting camera angle... u can see that the snares' left hands aren't quite straight up and down regarding the stroke... i guess thats the technique

[@benmurray8903]

From what I've heard, the stick heads make the same sound even with different contact points on the head. Not a percussionist so sorry if that's confusing, but Rennick's technique uses those sticks that way.

[@RoyaltonDrummer922]

Left hand stroke doesn't go completely up

[@coltonhulett3671]

3:25 guy just couldn't handle it

[@Rainbow_1312]

quads keeping it real at 4:16

[@acousticfoam4184]

Looked at their hand and said “you seein this shit?”

[@MoustacheCloud]

lmao 8:08 you can hear the crowd gasp.

[@DennisJohnsonDrummer]

Nice! (understatement)

[@sagemode1088]

How do they get so good and clean? Is it Yoga and meditation? so in sync.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

More fundamentals, more hours drumming together, solid brains, solid feet, solid hands, solid instruction. And talent.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

Oh, was that rhetorical?

[@sagemode1088]

Michael Reed No, I was really curious. SCV's lines have all been pretty consistent since Mr. Rennick has been there. I havent played since I was maybe 21 (32 now) and some of the shit these kids play is insane to me.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

My opinion is better music education and the Internet. One of my biggest goals is to teach my students better than I was taught. At least in many parts of Texas, school districts and band programs hire full-time percussion directors to oversee percussion education for grades 6-12. This has been going on in some areas since the 90s. We're now seeing the results of second generation graduates of such programs.

[@sagemode1088]

Michael Reed That makes sense. You can count on newer generations too. My 18 month old twins love drumline videos

[@jayprivacy1900]

I demand they start testing scv for rudimental P.E.D's.

[@gagemartin4681]

Jay Privacy hmmm

[@jayprivacy1900]

@@gagemartin4681 "Hmmmmmm" back at you, Gage. So, are you marching SCV this year?

[@gagemartin4681]

Jay Privacy no, I’m doing Atlanta CV with a friend. They want me back next year though, but with what I’m doing with my future, I don’t think I’ll be able to march for them.

[@jayprivacy1900]

@@gagemartin4681 Nice. If it was meant to be then it will happen. SCV isn't the only thing out there. Cheers! Good to hear from you.

[@joshuawilliams9560]

This book is insannneeee

[@jayjd1996]

These quads are sick as fuck

[@monic5623]

Do you know the tenor shell and where i could get one. Im in love with the look and sound

[@DomGrady97]

Temp Monic it's that Rennick tuning, you can only get it from UNT or vanguard lol

[@dom0292]

Mr.reed I play snare and I'm a freshman we also you Paul rennicks as my drumline instructor and used to be my band teacher is sponsored by them. Do have a specific rudiment or main focus that you want your student's or someone your teaching a main goal

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

KussDomi : Hey, sorry for this late reply. To answer your question, no, there isn't one specific rudiment. For me and my students, there are some main areas of focus (to work on constantly, and usually simultaneously): timing, proper technique, sound quality, and chops. TIMING: use a met (or quantized music) 99.9% of the time you practice. Count and mark time to everything you play. Play more timing patterns than shopping sprees. Use an earbud to keep the met close to your brain. Rather than hearing a met and a drum equally, you would be listening to the rhythms being fileted through the met. PROPER TECHNIQUE: watch your fulcrum, monitor which lever(s) (arm, wrist, fingers) you are using and in what combinations, and beware of tension/tightness. That's usually an indication of poor body mechanics and improper technique. TONE QUALITY: Listen. Always listen. Especially the inner beats (taps). Get off the pad and listen to a drum. Use good sticks (well-matched and not cracked). If it looks like a beaver has been teething on your shot zone, it's been time for new sticks already. CHOPS: push yourself in both duration and tempo several times per week. Play 100 reps of something (even if it's not fast). It's good for the head and the hands. Play an hour-long roll (even if it's basically 16th notes {RRLL RRLL RRLL RRLL...}). Long duration helps teach efficiency and proper technique. Basically, bad technique can force its way through 8 bars of an exercise. However, it doesn't work for 50 back-to-back reps, much less 100. Other stuff to consider... DOUBLE-STOP EXERCISES: Anything that can be played as double-stops, should be. This improves timing, tone quality, and chops. Basically, it's like drumming with your center or instructor, except it's your weak hand drumming with your dominant hand. GRIDS: gridding is life. Learn everything "backwards off the left". If you aren't familiar with "The Grid" and/or "4-2-1", look up @thegridbookseries and @hueiyuanpan on Instagram and Twitter. Also, checkout Bill Bachman's www.drumworkout.com

[@dom0292]

Alright thanks

[@bluskai1040]

my first thought: you sound too 'sharp' - which is odd for a drumline, then i noticed how you have a Spanish falvor - very nice change !

[@ShaquanTalbert]

7:06 when the beats are nasty. In a good way

[@ethanpierce324]

It's funny to hear the drum 1 slowly go out of tune over the course of the video

[@SmokeyG69]

I see you Bill

[@xGoldriever]

@1:43 a solitary Wild Bill Bachman can be seen, if I am seeing correctly

[@TopDrumCorps]

You are correct

[@gusbus2k138]

What kinda tenor heads? Anybody?

[@jodywhite1971]

What phone did you record this with? Looks and sounds good. Very, Very Tasty book for SCV this year.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

Samsung Galaxy S7 Exported (using Samsung video editor) in Full HD. To say that the upload to KZbin took awhile, would be an understatement.

[@dorian2112]

saw the on screen comment about quads. are they still referred to as quads when there are 5 or 6 drums? quads? quints? sexes tenors? kick ass video too dammit.

[@24DaniS24]

Ted Striker2112 usually quads sometimes referred to as tenor

[@dorian2112]

am am aware of this, as i stated in my reply you replied to. also played them!

[@CincoSnare76]

Lol you filmed my left arm. Nice

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

Are you drumming, or spectating?

[@CincoSnare76]

Spectating in the lower right of the video.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

+Bryan good times!

[@zRhid]

That roll excersize at 2:50 is so weird

[@JPitt1070]

Is it me or do the tenor players start leaning forward a lot when they play harder stuff? I know they're tenor gods and all but it does look a bit weird.

[@subbot8077]

I'm pretty sure partially just them really getting into it and partially moving their shoulders forward for a more comfortable range of motion

[@aaronrios6470]

You have to be mentally insane to play these beats

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

As opposed to "physically insane". ;-)

[@CRGuitarist]

Fucking phenomenal

[@dom0292]

What is there roll exercise called??

[@JahDrum09]

The kid in the striped shirt has a really nice haircut

[@jackdiddlysquat1402]

Bill, come back!

[@mikethere]

Does anyone know what the drum score have been looking like? Since they suck this year and aren't putting them up in the recap

[@jaredkronenwetter7460]

I don't think they evaluate individual drum scores until Atlanta. I could be remembering wrong though. but I'm pretty sure it's just overall music.

[@johndeer4789]

+Jared Kronenwetter They've definitely been evaluating percussion all season long, as well as every other caption as usual. Bluecoats got the highest drum score in San Antonio this weekend. The recaps get leaked sometimes fortunately. This summer they have a combined music score which is all you see on the public recap. I can't see how they wouldn't evaluate the two musical captions (brass and percussion) and still come to a overall musical score for every corps. There has to be an evaluation of content and achievement to pretty much get to every score in DCI, and without judges running around the field with recorders in there hands, corps' wouldn't be getting any judge tapes (which they need) and scores would be fabricated from a guy/women in the press box. I'm not entirely sure why DCI won't put the full recap online though.

[@joshuacoates6353]

What tenor heads are they using?

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

I'm 99% sure... REMO Renaissance Emperor crimplock

[@joshuacoates6353]

+Michael Reed do you know what snare heads they might be using also?

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

+Joshua Coates The batter heads look like Remo Black Max. Bottoms are likely the Remo Falam snare sides.

[@steph_lew]

Yes sir

[@cbeezey]

basketball socks in the back at the beginning

[@jacksonhill5613]

Whoa... 😦

[@DaXXPuniSHeR]

where is Bill in the vid?

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

1:40 to 1:50

[@kylegast5787]

Bassline's chops :o

[@jaimepminor80]

Bill bachman 😱😱

[@24DaniS24]

My boi Bill Bachman @ 1:45

[@realitywatch21]

4:24 - 4:35 was cold

[@MrAndersonneo88]

WOW

[@liljoe645]

what snare heads? sound amazing

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

99% sure... REMO Black Max on top and Falam snare side. Paul Rennick is a great tuner (heads and guts) and those drums are well-designed and well-made. Props to the performers for playing so cleanly that we can hear tone and sound quality.

[@JackCelatka]

oh bill in one rep and out the next

[@jaimepminor80]

Is bill bachman 😱

[@coletonlane2182]

I was dying at 4:18

[@dom0292]

I KNEW THAT WAS BILL BACHMAM

[@dom0292]

BACHMAN**

[@tommy_bowles]

3:52

[@ethans-d6105]

those duts are SCARY lol

[@Stage4percussionandbrassOrg]

If you like to laugh, and you like marching percussion, you'll like this guy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKHGm2WQeZeDeLc

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

Thanks for sharing.

[@mendellee]

*laugh* nice Bachman grab.

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

Glad you liked it.

[@Queeze101]

I was thinking the same thing 😂. When I heard ONE rim, I thought about when Bill Bachman did it as such a rare occurrence because it basically never happens. Like this quad line

[@thecontractor1544]

The Top Secret is Best

[@benkessler4439]

The Contractor I’d like to see top secret against these guys just so top secret fans could get put in their place

[@RichardMoe-j4t]

Aaliyah Groves

[@ethans-d6105]

these guys have no chill

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

They looked pretty chill posing with the high percussion trophy after finals. Just sayin'.

[@sanford198]

Dude...

[@bucklenutz9343]

somebody doesn't like their bass drums

[@ethanpierce324]

I unliked this video, just to like it again.

[@nycolledamaceno5581]

laem

[@amilkumar9038]

Jesus. Christ.

[@goto7320]

Metronomic and behind the beat, with no Hardimon Funk...other than that some parts are juicy.

[@adammccormack5206]

what sticks are the quads using?

[@MichaelReedPercussion]

The new Paul Rennick tenor sticks from IP. Latex band on the butt end. Kind of like a VF "swizzle" but instead of a felt ball (larger than the stick), the latex wrapped end of the stick is still the same diameter as the rest of the stick.

[@adammccormack5206]

+Michael Reed thanks

[@davidraigoza214]

Paul rennick TS PR's my school uses em and they're great