I really like the new format integrating the MPG and off-road reviews together. I think that a car shopper would really appreciate all that info in one video.
@TFLcar9 жыл бұрын
+Invincible Osprey Thank you for the feedback!
@tkobvious8 жыл бұрын
+Invincible Osprey Except the fact that the way it's edited makes you wonder if the off-road portion is part of the mpg test. I'm pretty sure it's not, based on all of your previous videos..? The casual viewer may not be able to discern these are two separate tests. Not a criticism, just a suggestion to mention that the off-road part wasn't part of the mpg test.
@guyproulx16608 жыл бұрын
the U.S companies can't build anything to compete with a Land Cruiser
@samkirkham6068 жыл бұрын
nothing can compete with the land cruiser lol
@zard12148 жыл бұрын
There is like 2 other vehicle from top of my head that can compete with that and one of them is from toyota as well
@badfish898 жыл бұрын
guy proulx jeep wrangler Rubicon
@guyproulx16608 жыл бұрын
Badfish89 can the Jeep compete with the reliability of the Land Cruiser
@zard12148 жыл бұрын
I don't think Jeep and reliability goes together
@thelongdaysofwheeling1249 жыл бұрын
Soo nice to see you guys actually saying, "wrong tires for the job" and "if you are going to do this, you should have a dedicated snow tire." Thanks for stepping up your game... and maybe even saving a life.
@Curryolla9 жыл бұрын
Loyal to Land Cruiser! Don't know what I'd do without my 1999 Toyota Land Cruiser. Once you go Land Cruiser, it's hard to leave!
@garydean03089 жыл бұрын
We have a 2014. It is awesome! We drove it 4000 miles to Alaska pulling a 14 foot trailer. I was going 50 mph up 5% grades with a loaded trailer.
@lanceavats88819 жыл бұрын
My aunt has an old land cruiser probably a 1990 or around there and that thing has over 200,000 miles on it and lots of adventuring trips off road and such on it. It is still reliable and it still runs perfectly and now with the problems she is having it is sitting outside in her front yard without maintenance for 90% of the year. I haven't driven it but I must say it is high quality.
@dunhillsupramk38 жыл бұрын
once you do maintenance and not try to kill it, it will last a million miles without a problem...
@4wdsome4446 жыл бұрын
Most things last 200,000 miles it not unheard of for volvos, volkswagens and some toyotas to happily walk past 1 million
@478675390qq8 жыл бұрын
land cruiser is one of legendary off road SUV Toyota made, its same as lexus Lx, but Lexus is more luxury.
@Toyota4Life8 жыл бұрын
Big Beautiful SUV. Nice interior. This thing with big offroad tires. Unstopppable. Well worth the money This is the car you want to have when shit hits the fan.
@TKKT12349 жыл бұрын
Love the 2 in 1 format and editing! Can't wait for more 2016 Tacoma videos, even though I have one in my garage!!
@The_Osprey9 жыл бұрын
+Terry Torancis Khuu Same here...about the reviews that is.
@TFLcar9 жыл бұрын
+Terry Torancis Khuu Thank you for the feedback!
@cwehbe9 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it even got up that far with the highway tires they have on! My question is, why on earth would Toyota put those tires on such an off road tough made truck? Put some BF Goodrich AT KO2 on her and she'll climb like a homesick angel!!
@pepitopepito65983 ай бұрын
we know this car is fully capable for offroad, but toyota knows at the end of the day that the folks that end up buyin a land cruiser keep the car on the road majority of the time so they jus stuck on highway tires 😕
@conduit2425 жыл бұрын
Lol Nathan “floor it until you dig yourself in and THEN use crawl control and complain it doesn’t work” Adlen 🤣🙌
@robertcox966 жыл бұрын
Love how they brought back the FJ80 format with the headlights, and "repurposed" the taillights from the 2013-2015 LX 570. Favorite Land Cruiser
@BillSprague9 жыл бұрын
Wow, with a set of B. F. Goodrich AT/KO2's it would rock that hill. Great test and Happy New Year!
@Bobbybeb9 жыл бұрын
Most definitely.
@KingAlphaLion819 жыл бұрын
With those tires, it would annihilate that hill!!
@lwfeagan9 жыл бұрын
Yep. Those are what I put on my 2013 a few months ago. So far I am loving them in the snow. You take a hit of around 0.2 mpg in mixed driving. Road noise is just a little more than stock and you can only hear it when you really try to.
@KingAlphaLion819 жыл бұрын
+Lance Feagan My truck is straight piped, who cares about road noise? Those are definitely the next set of tires I'm owning.
@jorcktheoutcast80079 жыл бұрын
I've got KO2's on my ram, 👌
@lorenzorossibordignon67259 жыл бұрын
The best channel for truck reviews reviwing the best truck on earth!
@mike59816 жыл бұрын
I remember my parents buying a Yukon back in 2008. It had so many problems GM had to buy it back. They went for a 2008 Land Cruiser and they couldn't have made a better choice. 340k miles and runs great. Now I use it to go off road and it's a beast. Love it how may friends wranglers break all the time and this beast just keeps on going weekend after weekend.
@MrKeyboardCommando9 жыл бұрын
When you're slogging across the arse end of nowhere, and your life depends on your motor being reliable, that's where you see people driving Toyota Land Cruisers.
@The_Osprey9 жыл бұрын
+MrKeyboardCommando According to Doug Demuro all Range Rover owners secretly want to be Land Cruiser owners...but they like the creature comforts of a RR.
@MrKeyboardCommando9 жыл бұрын
+Invincible Osprey I doubt that the majority of Range Rover owners even know there's such a thing as a Land Cruiser.
@The_Osprey9 жыл бұрын
MrKeyboardCommando You may have a point. I read somewhere that the number one market for Range Rovers is...NEW YORK CITY. Unbelievable.
@MrKeyboardCommando9 жыл бұрын
Invincible Osprey Range Rovers are, first and foremost, a highly desirable fashion item. Their on, and off, road ability is totally irrelevant.
@jonathanscherer74828 жыл бұрын
+MrKeyboardCommando Like the Hummer was? I live in Colorado, and each time I see a Hummer I have to wonder about the person driving it. I also give them wide birth. I'm still driving a 4Runner, which is now 10 years old. I have never had an issue, and I go up mountain roads without worry. Who wants to wake up at 12k ft atop a mountain to find their beloved yuppiemobile won't start? Or as with the new Jeep Cherokee, go into gear? Toyota gets a lot of heat for not going to transmissions with a higher number of gears sooner, but Jeep is learning the hard way the error of rushing out an untested platform. 9 speeds that don't work are not preferable to 5 that do. I've heard stories of people having the 9-speed replaced 4 times before they give up and trade it in. Jeep won't even recognize the lemon law on these things.
@USA4thewin9 жыл бұрын
Best car on the planet hands down
@Ben7628 жыл бұрын
Your videos are much better these days compared to some of your earlier ones. Cheers.
@tritchie62729 жыл бұрын
I gotta say Andrea is an improvement over Roman!
@swada029 жыл бұрын
+T Ritchie LOL Its Romans channel
@tritchie62729 жыл бұрын
swada02 Well hopefully he will let Andrea continue replace him often on video. To me Andra is more about the auto and Roman more about stupid JR high type jokes.Every once in a blue moon Roman will give a good review but Andra seems more consistent.
@4wdsome4446 жыл бұрын
Haha
@Guillotines_For_Globalists9 жыл бұрын
Now that's one good looking truck/SUV.
@teccec9 жыл бұрын
I miss my 97' Land Cruiser. Would love to own one again.
@davidmorin27318 жыл бұрын
Tires are SO important particularly in snow. Thank you for continually reiterating that. 👍
@xxijoseaixx2249 жыл бұрын
A off-road comparison of the Toyota Land Cruiser with others in its segment would be a great video!
@quikagc59 жыл бұрын
I have a '13 LX570 basically the same as the Land Cruiser and the most I've ever gotten on the highway is 17.1mpg at a steady 70mph with the six-speed auto, so it appears the 8-speed auto improves mpg up to 2mpg better. That's impressive!!
@dunhillsupramk38 жыл бұрын
well its basically the same engine so in theory you can buy the new 8speed transmission and install it in your SUV
@randyhowell48608 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 Landcruiser with BFG KO 2s on it. It will go anywhere.
@jcpoiuy6 жыл бұрын
@Randy- how are KO2s on snowy and icy roads? I know they are excellent for gripping and climbing but looking at getting them more so for midwest snowy and blizzard conditions (mostly interstate and on road). Just curious- thanks.
@TheHoth18 жыл бұрын
Oh, my G37Xs does 19mpg. Can't believe a V8 SUV can also do 19mpg. Even they are highway miles, it is still impressive!
@Captainflood019 жыл бұрын
They should get the twin turbo diesel that we have in Australia
@retiredafce33739 жыл бұрын
That would be great but I think it is an emissions thing. I won't be surprised if Toyota installs the Cummings Diesel they plan on installing in the Tundra.
@ivywells39019 жыл бұрын
+Retired AF CE it's cummins there is no damn g in it.
@retiredafce33739 жыл бұрын
Ivy Wells spell check. I sincerely apologize for the spelling mistake.
@The_Osprey9 жыл бұрын
+Ben Flood That would be amazing but they won't sell them here. Just this year we finally got the Range Rover with a diesel.
@gamebredduramax25779 жыл бұрын
+Retired AF CE whats wierd is when the 5.0 cummins was introduced it was suposed to go in the tundra according to all the talk,but then nissan titan hit the market 1st with the cummins v8,so where is toyota at on that diesel for the tundra now? thats my question.
@marks60729 жыл бұрын
I gotta say you guys at TFL are firing on all cylinders... Really comprehensive video with tons of valuable info!!!
@jairomvp9 жыл бұрын
like the part were the truck is going up and the camera man is running behind, that is an A+ for effort, the outcome shoot was fantastic even when running.
@martinmcdonald42073 жыл бұрын
Try snow/winter tyres for this type of test to be fair to the machine.
@pihva_rusni9 жыл бұрын
Nice car (truck) but I still can't understand why people in USA don't use winter tires when it's cold and snowing outside. For me it is an obvious procedure - change tyres before winter. And Andrey should know it very well since he is from Russia. So even this test-drive might be finished non optimistic for drivers and cruiser in that forest on summer tyres. So please tell me - winter tyres are common to use or no one heard of them in US even in those states where snow 'n' ice are usual in winter? Sorry for my English.
@pihva_rusni9 жыл бұрын
***** In CA state I also do not see a reason to put on winter tires when there is only rain in winter. But I guess there are a few states in US where roads are coated by the snow during the winter season? And in the news and KZbin I see that people can't drive and even light snow called snow storm. Mostly because of all season tires. I tried to use that type of tires one season but they are only for summer time and in winter they are really sucks. In this video guys showed that this expensive LC quite weak even on light snow and the reason again those all season tires. Because everyone know that on winter tires like Continental or Nokian this truck would become a Jeep Wrangler in a mud. But on tires from dealer it can't drive even in there where they tested it.
@Bobbybeb9 жыл бұрын
Well in my home state of Kentucky, winters can greatly vary and are very unpredictable. In my region of the state, all season tires are okay year round.
@gamebredduramax25779 жыл бұрын
here in the U.S most people with trucks and suv's use all terrain type tires to get the best of both worlds for wet, dry,or snowy surfaces,instead of a dedicated tire 1 way or the other.
@FCFordLord9 жыл бұрын
In the USA, we have all terrain/all season tires that outperform similarly priced snow tires. IE A $400 set of all seasons generally outperforms a set of $400 snow tires, and you end up not needing two sets. I tried the snow tire route before, there was no benefits over the all seasons I have. In some winter conditions, snow tires were actually worse.
@Bobbybeb9 жыл бұрын
+FCFordLord I think the snow tires are made with a softer rubber similar to off road tires. They are suppose to grip better in snow but usually have poor wet traction performance. We have all season tires on the 4runner and had an unusual heavy snow fall last year and the all season tires performed great, given the fact they had deep tread.
@Smrtsk8tr18 жыл бұрын
Andre you are stepping your hosting up big time!
@jackgrant5869 жыл бұрын
Love the Landcruiser!
@fabianhernandez31269 жыл бұрын
Great format for the review looking forward to the next reviews on suvs and trucks. I hope the views enjoyed it as much as i did. much better than having them separately.
@reggiebuffat9 жыл бұрын
Lunch, coffee, and shower. Winner of the trucker combo.
@KingAlphaLion819 жыл бұрын
Really good video TFL, I love the Gold Mine Hill section! Please keep them coming too!
@nelson45689 жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 Land Cruiser with a 4.7L that has 69,997 miles, bought it new 10.5 years ago. It runs like clockwork. The frame has a touch of rust here and there, the rotors were just replaced along with the belts and battery. Other than that, not a single problem. So heres to another 10 years
@alee67199 жыл бұрын
TFL Truck I like this format, I like the real world mpg testing and you threw in the off road capabilities. Maybe in the middle of the off roading you could do a check up of the guys on the 100 mile loop. Good job guys.
@romanticdonkey4686 жыл бұрын
Some in the comments saying they wish they would spec with a diesel. Here in the states, that means dealing with diesel exhaust fluid and the diesel particulate filter for emissions. This is nothing but a headache. I’d rather have the 5.7L. It is bulletproof and will give you 300k+ miles of life easily. Keep it simple. Keep it Toyota.
@islanddrives23559 жыл бұрын
TFL, i love your reviews, what cameras do you use?
@TFLtruck9 жыл бұрын
Sony action cams and other Sony video cameras
@Jusaguy0009 жыл бұрын
+The Fast Lane Truck I see a htc re!
@HostDogg9 жыл бұрын
+The Fast Lane Truck Your t-shirt says 'pimp' in russian. Do you know it?
@4wdsome4446 жыл бұрын
Eugene Stepanov its a picture of andre, they are taking the piss out of him. Quite funny
@gregorytaylor26299 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on tires. Put a set of bfgoodrich all terrains on it and it would be almost unstoppable.
@dan49320019 жыл бұрын
Shower time guys!!
@wildbill23c9 жыл бұрын
Fuel economy will vary a lot depending on fuel quality, driver, location, temperature, etc. A guy on a Toyota Tundra forum just threw a transfer case from a land cruiser into his tundra to give the tundra the full time 4WD option as well as the part time 4WD option. I wouldn't really be running that hill with those tires, but it goes to show they are quite capable. Traction control is way too intrusive in these situations, but I can see why it needs to be there for those who can't drive worth crap LOL. I turn the traction control off in my truck whenever I'm in 4WD so I have more control. Trouble is there wasn't an actual fuel economy test, you can't measure fuel economy while playing in the snow LOL.
@taumax9 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a time lapse video of the whole trip up Gold Mine hill with some commentary? That would give viewers better context of how hard this trail is.
@maxburgess70408 жыл бұрын
the key is in the situations where you could get stuck is to NOT STOP
@larryspiller159 жыл бұрын
I love this new style! this video was so good. Maybe wouldn't of minded some in vehicle content during the mpg but it's no big deal.
@hannahbrown35378 жыл бұрын
I'm buying one next year!!!!
@rxonmymind83627 жыл бұрын
Hannah Brown Did you buy one?
@jcpoiuy6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I need to know as well. Did you buy one?
@weekenderwarriors15906 жыл бұрын
Have you bought one yet
@RobertCarrizal5 жыл бұрын
When In brought it for my dad 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser was two trade in old 2006 sequoia and 2013 Tacoma and then I’ll be ready for on July 25th El Paso test mpg is hopefully some 20 mpg!!!
@sodp9 жыл бұрын
isnt the LR4 more of a comparison rather than Discovery sport ?
@manveerbajwa22069 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this review, it was amazing! Could u do a review of the all new 2016 Lexus lx 570 and show the difference between the land cruiser and the lx
@456123defabc9 жыл бұрын
I just drove the twin turbo diesel and managed to get 25mpg, it also can do 0-60 around 8.2 secs.
@LarryC2139 жыл бұрын
+qwerty, I wish we could have that engine here.
@jiggs5098 жыл бұрын
+LarryC213 so everyone can complain that it costs 110k? Lol
@LarryC2138 жыл бұрын
Jean Michel Duval, Well, you or someone else might complain, but I wouldn't really care.
@towncar169 жыл бұрын
wow thats great mpg for what it is go Toyota!!!
@gasolara20029 жыл бұрын
The guys are right. Better tires needs to be on the truck. Its an excellent truck. I wish my 80 series got 19 Mpg. But i stil love it
@NL-in6uj6 жыл бұрын
77k Miles on my 2005 and it still runs like a clock!!
@Dankcatvacs9 жыл бұрын
great review dr.robotnik
@Offshore19778 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos. Especially these goldmine videos. Only thing I ask is if you could be a little more clear when the vehicle finishes stage 1,2,3. It becomes a little confusing to decipher which stage it is completing. Thanks for the great video guys and keep them coming.
@Roadhouse4426 жыл бұрын
This video was great. Wish I could afford a Land Cruiser! Leasing a 2018 Outback right now. Even though I can't afford the Land Cruiser, definitely looking forward to getting a 4Runner, especially for the price.
@yeahman19753 жыл бұрын
This is years ago, i wish toyota would see this and start putting on Some great All Terrains stock
@aujla75649 жыл бұрын
with some offroading tires with better threads it would go up hills as with other vehicles tested
@lfsracer799 жыл бұрын
It needs winter tires.
@Bobbybeb9 жыл бұрын
I'm sure if requested, Toyota would swap out the tires at the dealership at no charge at the time of purchase. Most people here in states that buy a land cruiser will probably only use it on the road and Toyota rather have ride comfort over aggressive tires.
@aujla75649 жыл бұрын
Bobby0345 yeah cars usually with come with all seasons its ur pick if u want snow ....or trail tires
@Kevinnguyendohrr92319 жыл бұрын
DO A 2016 LEXUS LX
@tacominded45829 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Like the Land Cruisers especially the older models.
@scholz2227 жыл бұрын
Good work guys - love this format!
@urodoctormr9 жыл бұрын
I can get 20mpg on highway with our 2013 lx570 (Lexus land-cruiser)
@Kevinnguyendohrr92319 жыл бұрын
+scottd you have one
@aujla75649 жыл бұрын
yeah but there are higher in altitude
@urodoctormr9 жыл бұрын
+Sartaj Aujla I was just referring to the EPA ratings, they tend to differ
@urodoctormr9 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Nguyen well I don't, considering I'm only 18 and I have an small income... But my parents own one
@Kevinnguyendohrr92319 жыл бұрын
scottd me to my parents owns it.
@robertfernandez45169 жыл бұрын
4/5 flakes! BS. Take that Land Cruiser back in the summer when there is no snow and you will get 5/5. You can't fault Toyota for stock tires. Ask Toyota to hurry up with their diesel version for their vehicles. They won't take my phone calls anymore.
@zeeb78469 жыл бұрын
lol. You are right.
@NaijaBoiTellEm8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Fernandez Yea, but it was based on the stock tires in the snow. We, including the reviewers, know that Land Cruiser is world-renown for a reason. Andre and Nathan are just pointing out that one would most likely have to replace the tires if off-roading if there is snow involved.
@dunhillsupramk38 жыл бұрын
they already have a diesel engine for this land cruiser, unfortunately Toyota don't sell it in the US...
@baltimoretvmounting15439 жыл бұрын
Think about this: Would you say that it is the tires OR could it be weight? The tires seemed to be cleaning as they should, I have the same tire on my FJ and it hops over similiar bumps in the snow. I'm not defending the tires- just trying to think of the real problem in that STOP/ GO on a snowy hill challenge.
@johnedgard8618 жыл бұрын
Hahaha the poor bloke running behind the car at 3:30 had me cracking up.
@5JSG9 жыл бұрын
The legend lives on....Just needs better work boots.
@charlieboozer829 жыл бұрын
Please, Nathan, finish your thought about why a vehicle holds less gas when the temp is colder. I live in Cincinnati and my Ford Fusion does this, and I am clueless as to why the tank holds more when it's warm and less when it's cold.
@aj67820049 жыл бұрын
es una land cruiser...que esperaban....lo mejor de lo mejor
@greencell87319 жыл бұрын
nice as compared to previous land cruiser
@ArmandoMachado929 жыл бұрын
You need to get your hands on a Land Cruiser PRADO! :D
@MineMoore4 жыл бұрын
Armando Machado nah 200 series is better but the americans have the trash petrol version
@JulezWinnfield8 жыл бұрын
I'm curious....what kind of vehicle was following you and filming you up Gold Mine Hill? It didn't seem to have any issues keeping up with the Land Cruiser in all that snow.
@MichaelMiller-rg6or9 жыл бұрын
You guys should do goldmine hill again under normal conditions with the land cruiser.
@corrollaS20108 жыл бұрын
lmao I love it the yota did better than the pro 4x titan and I know yall did the test with both on this day you can see the titan in the background in the beginning
@bmecalgary9 жыл бұрын
Need that 8 speed in the Tundra to make it more competitive.
@NuclearGrizzly9 жыл бұрын
I wonder why when Toyota/Lexus went to the 8 speed transmission the MPG stayed the same as with the 6 speed offering? Same for Land Rover.
@oldschool19289 жыл бұрын
These things are so dang reliable, the depreciation is slow. Even the pre-owned models are still pricey. They're also rare and hard to find.
@WA-uq1rh9 жыл бұрын
Great vehicle, great review and great channel. Nathan, I would have liked to hear the rest of your statement before you got interrupted at 1:25 about filling gas in summer. Thx guys!
@ErikTaraldsen9 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if you could have two identical veichles with propper snow tires on one and all seasons on the other.
@santiagocarrillo65779 жыл бұрын
Nomadic fanatic theme song at the beginning of the off road test
@TheCoolHani8 жыл бұрын
u can also deflate the tires a bit to get more traction... 18PSI should do it...
@4OOQ9 жыл бұрын
Hey what was Nathan trying to say about fueling up in cold/hot climates before he was cutoff?
@gaganbrar66289 жыл бұрын
you guys are the best keep up the great work!!!!
@est1895 жыл бұрын
How do they get ahold of all these cars? Do the dealerships just give it to them for testing?
@1guyin109 жыл бұрын
You guys need to update your website with a summary list of these tests. Please? :-)
@josemuniz28789 жыл бұрын
Do people lift this cars like they do with truck? Great review TFL!
@WildOutdoorLiving8 жыл бұрын
I wish they would bring the 70 series back to the US.
@eddiethecounsel8 жыл бұрын
Just a thought: it would be interesting to fing out the mpg if the car is fully loaded woth 4 passengers and luggage.
@Rhaspun8 жыл бұрын
i wish the Landcruiser came with a delete option for the 3rd row seats. I'll prefer a larger cargo area. Too bad dealers don't offer that on their own.
@KingAlphaLion819 жыл бұрын
That's one sweet machine, but that price tag hurts. Toyota did a good job on it.
@Fadic49 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that even with the crawl control it was stuck. I guess the tires were that bad.
@manuelguevara12868 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the Honda Pilot in these conditions, its that possible? Just to compare the performance on the same trial but with different conditions.
@raymondowilson85379 жыл бұрын
Good video. Can you guys review a 2014 or 2015 with a 6 speed transmission. I'd be interested in the mileage difference over the ~98 miles that you drove with the 8 speed. Thanks.
@shaunr54508 жыл бұрын
All those bells and whistles are severely compromised by those tires.
@reidmosey2228 жыл бұрын
Does the CO altitude impact your fuel economy results/projections?
@aaaviation19 жыл бұрын
hey guys, would appreciate a road test of the similar LX570 and test the practicality and performance and the refinement vs cars like the escalade and Range Rover if possible?
@Shomanchik8 жыл бұрын
Is it "сутенер" on the T-shirt?
@DjLucasStable9 жыл бұрын
i forget did you take your jeep wrangler rubicon hardrock up gold mine hill
@collinator689 жыл бұрын
if this vehicle lasts as long as toyotas are known to last, I think the price will be worth it, and at 19mpg, hell freakin yea I'll buy one, I don't care if some consider it to be a cheap brand car, if it's reliable and capable and can stand the test of time, than its worth the money. I think this vehicle is going to retain it's value pretty well, much like theyr tacomas do. I find it quite amazing that used tacomas with 200k+ miles on the odometer are going for the same price as all the other brand vehicles in its class with less than half that milage. I would definitely rate this vehicle as a buy it.
@ldodom8 жыл бұрын
As complimentary as you were, I was somewhat disappointed in its off-road prowess. At $85,000.00+ you're quickly approaching Range Rover territory and they perform flawlessly, in a variety of conditions. However, the prospect of long term reliability would most likely go to the Land Rover.