2017 Beta 300 RR | First Impressions

[@maverick2242]

Good to see someone who gets / understands the spring rate set right first, (course Is expect Rm to know this, u guys rock) but it's the most over looked factor on any bike especially by non pro riders! Then they complain the suspension is poor, nice work RM👍 Another good feature about the oil injection is how clean it runs, you won't get excess oil mix in the cylinder as the oil mixture is determined by the throttle control sensor so it always squirts in the amount of oil to fuel mixture, good for cylinder, position and ring longevity as well as a cleaner burn. Plus that Power Valve characteristic can be changed with a 5mm Allen key while you are out riding, you don't have to carry any springs with you and remove the PV caver and change them over, very cool. It will be interesting to see how clean this is compared tot the TPI on 18 KTMs and Huskys, effectively achieving the same thing via a different technology! Great vid guys, cheers🤙

[@maverick2242]

Oh btw the new my 18s are nearly 10lbs lighter again, though I think I prefer the Red plastics and Gold forks than the later white and black look jmo! Up close in person it might be different. Also you should note that this is the Base model RR, Beta also offer the RR Race Version! Cheers👍

[@otpipe]

MaverickDH I could be wrong but I think most of that 10lbs. is from a lithium battery and I think they removed the kick starter. My '16 300RR weighs 258lbs with radiator guards,hand guards, carbon pipe guard and full fuel ready to ride.

[@kayvonmansouri]

I have this bike and it smokes like crazy on startup and hard acceleration. I'm not sure if mine has an issue or now

[@maverick2242]

Kevin M how many hours do you have on the top end?

[@kayvonmansouri]

@@maverick2242 around 60

[@BoogiemanMoto]

In the first 10 minutes you've already told us more info and provided more insight about the bike than Kyle from dirt bike channels first five videos. Kudos to Rocky Mtn. Excellent review and Chance did a great job telling us his impressions and explaining everything about the bike. Only thing you should have mentioned is that Beta offers a Race Edition which has some extra bling and stiffer Sachs CC front forks and rear shock. I have a 16 300 RR and ride in tight and rocky Pennsylvania coal country single track. I have a P-Tech skid on mine which I love, Obie linkage guard, Seat Concepts low wide seat, Tubliss front and rear, Pirelli MT16 rear and Bridgestone M59 front tires, 165 Main and 38 pilot with Suzuki NEDJ needle in 2nd clip position, PV set 1 turn in from flush, Force Accesories meter guard and clutch slave guard, EE handguards, Beta/Unabiker Rad guards/braces, and the Beta sharkfin for the rear rotor. You guys should start carrying Beta OEM parts, lots and lots of Beta owners would be very happy. There's more of us every day haha.

[@myridinglife7873]

With all due respect this guy just copy paste everything he saw, read and heard in the dirt bike social media, because it is obvious to see how his riding sucks, and with his level he's not able to feel not even 1/3 about the things he is talking about. Anyhow congrats to the channel, keep up with the good work. (But next time choose better the rider/reporter)

[@BoogiemanMoto]

Uh oh look out, Pedro's the next Graham Jarvis. I checked your channel for some expert hard enduro riding tips and footage but couldn't seem to find anything?? Please educate us oh great enduro god. We should all learn to ride like you.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I have a full review coming out on the bike later.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Keep in mind also that I have a full time job that doesn't have anything to do with dirt bikes to put food on the table for my family :) My time is a bit more limited that Rocky Mountain ATV/MC. I give my opinions. People don't have to agree with me, and that is perfectly fine.

[@BoogiemanMoto]

I'm anxiously awaiting your full review video. I think it's going be awesome. I appreciate and understand the time and effort that goes into your channel, I don't have a problem with you or the channel. I still support and enjoy watching your content, which is why I bought some shirts for the Sherco giveaway (I hope there won't be any "surprises" in my package lol). And I agree with almost everything you've said about the bike in your most recent videos, you seem to be enjoying and understanding the bike for what it is more and more with each ride. I just didn't enjoy and/or agree with some of those initial vids. And I have no problems speaking my mind about it. That's just me and like you said, not everybody has to agree with my opinions, that's perfectly fine with me too.

[@captainpegs07]

I think this is the best Beta 300 RR review on the internets.

[@rmatvmc]

Right on! Thanks! Glad you liked it.~Chance

[@adam22es]

IMO the PV adjustment is the best feature on this bike. It can completely change the nature of the bike in seconds, its like a customizable engine with a dial. On the ktm you have to change out the springs to achieve those results. I carry a 5mm wrench under the push button seat, don't even have to take my gloves off.

[@BoogiemanMoto]

99% agree! I would only modify that to say it's ONE of the best features on the bike :o)

[@utahdesertrider1806]

When the 17 Beta 300rr Race versions arrived at my local dealership, I was there looking at KTM and Husky. The owner of the dealership Raved at Beta’s warranty and customer review record that he has experienced. He said: have u seen Beta? I’m like no. I’ve been riding CR250R two strokes forever. He said he’s had more than his share of KTM return issues and Beta has a better warranty yet none of the bikes he’s sold ever come back for warranty. So I did research on riders opinions etc. and with the extras the Race version comes with and the cost still being less than KTM I went with the Beta 300. I’m very pleased. It rides different than my screamer CR250R. It’s linear power delivery is nice and predictable. It’s very balanced like when u hit kickers and unpredictable terrain. It flies straight, doesn’t get out of shape unexpectedly. The ergos are great. The seat is hard, which I like. U can get a soft seat if requested. I don’t sit much so I like a harder saddle. I was nervous on my way to ride it for the first time. I was so happy after the first ride. No regrets. I love it. Oh.. I got the Race version which comes with closed cartridge forked. They are a little stiff. Since I’m not pro I need to get them revolved. The Beta suspension guru in Las Vegas told me it should be done as well as the shock nitrogen piston can fade and recommended a bladder style be installed. I changed the shock spring. I’m 190 with no gear on and the stick spring has a max of 180’ish. The low end grunt has saved me a few times already. The plastic breaks supposedly but I haven’t had an issue there.

[@DuRoma]

On my beta 2017 300RR make this modifications : I have a OEM skid Platen, Obie linkage guard, 170 Main and 45 pilot with NEDJ needle in 2nd clip position, PV set 1 1/2 turn in from flush, , Corona handguards, EE Rear Disc protector. My next mod is Obie linkage guard. I agree with my friend to you guys should start carrying Beta OEM parts, lots and lots of Beta owners would be very happy. Great job and excellent review !!!!

[@craigloomis20]

This bike has everything I want. Plus you can customize it from the factory. Awesome job Beta

[@ToriMoto]

Good review. I have the same model and have put 120 hours on mine since I picked it up in February. Absolutely love getting on it; I'm just as excited to ride it as I was the day I first put it through its paces. Thumbs up mate.

[@chunkalunka5379]

I wish betas were more popular in the U.S. maybe in a few years, ktm and husky are just really starting to get a grip

[@Hulley29]

I have a strong feeling the Betas are going to explode soon, much like KTM has in the last 5-7 years. I'm wanting to sell my KTM and get the 300RR now. I do love my KTM though.

[@iffykidmn8170]

Up until a few years ago I thought all they made was trials bikes, Now have a 2016 XTrainer and 2018 390RR

[@woodsrider117]

Beta has been exploding in sales for years. Their models sell out and the factory is selling most everything they make. It’s at capacity. Beta is a very small company. It’s not huge like Ktm/husky. There is also a 6 month warranty on this bike.rs models have a year warranty.

[@googleuser1522]

Rocky Mountain ATV please please please add Beta OEM to your product offerings!!!! There are a lot of us Beta owners in the US who would love to have an easy option for ordering factory parts.

[@rmatvmc]

Never say never. In order to sell Beta OEM parts we need to be a dealer for them and sell their machines. Currently we do not sell them. Maybe down the road. Thanks for watching.

[@goober20001]

I’ve owned this bike for 3 months It’s my favorite Bike that I have ever owned power curve is perfect for riding in the hills in tight trails I recommend if your 28 and up buy one

[@danp4203]

I don't have a 300RR, but I do have a '17 Xtrainer. If you buy 2 clutch springs from the 300 2T trials bike and swap them in. You'll love the clutch pull even more. So you'll have 2 clutch springs from stock and 2 from the trials bike. Unless the RR has 5 or 6 springs. If there's 6, I guess you could try 3 and 3. Other than that. All stock. I do run Tubliss and have a Goldentyre 216 AA fatty in the front. Also all the protection for trail riding. My skid plate on my XTRAINER is for a 300RR. It's a TMD skid. Just had to drill a new hole in the rear. It offers more protection than the one for the Xtrainer.

[@BoogiemanMoto]

Do you have a part number for the clutch springs you used?

[@danp4203]

Asah E. Just the ones from the 300 evo 2 stroke trials bike.

[@BoogiemanMoto]

Gotch. I'll check it out. I tried the washer mod on the clutch springs, with 1.6mm washers. Didn't like it, clutch pull was almost identical and in 5th or 6th gear at speed the clutch would slip every so often. I'm leaning towards saying the heck with it and buying a Clake.

[@danp4203]

ngcsu I recently just picked up a 300RR. I would say the Xtrainer is not for a beginner. If you know how to use a clutch and won't freeze up when you get in trouble. By all means get one. If you may have times of whiskey throttle and freezing up. Do not get one. The only power the Xtrainer is missing is the top end hit. The Xtrainer is still a 300 2 stroke. The reason why it's called a Xtrainer is because that's what it's made for. Cross training. Which is trials skills on a dirt bike. Ultimately it's your money. You can get one to learn to ride on if you want. People race them in Harescramble events and Enduro and Enduro cross events and win against the bikes like the 300RR, KTM 300XC, Husqy 300TE, etc. That's not things you would do on a "beginners" bike. The Trainer in the name doesn't mean beginner.

[@utdesertghost199]

Great video, I have a 2016 RR300 Race edition and love it! I have mine plated for Utah and all I needed to do was install the turn signals, flasher relay, a license plate tail light all of which were pre wired so it was pretty much plug and play. Oh and a mirror.

[@masterbeta343]

Yeah its soft but thats why its adjustable the first thing i did was adjust it to my personal setting i have a 250 and i found that 1 3/4 turns in from flush and uts perfect for me

[@googleuser1522]

I just finished riding the Klim Cow Tag ride this weekend. Last year there were a handful of Betas at the event. This year it seemed between a quarter and a third of the bikes were betas. Beta is really becoming a very popular bike in the U.S. You guys really need to get set up to carry beta OEM. I’m thinking Helper really needs a Beta Dealership. ;-)

[@y0imbooster]

My beta: I love her :) Only modifications on it : Flush powervalve (just right power - still controlable powerband) and removed oil injection. I have heard some people had melt their pistons because of oil injection failiure (air bubbles, clogged with mess from oil tank). So I got it removed for safety reasons. Premixing gas is 2 minute job. Cmon. I use it for extreme enduro(set up perfectly) and motocross/cross country on mx track(suspension feels soft on track, so I might get it stiffer). I recommend it to everyone! 300 stroke was my dream bike, but If I were to choose other it would probably be 350 xc-f.

[@Preflightterror4]

Blaz Sustar why not get the 300 rr rc then?

[@Khemikl1]

I've had one of these for two months now, I do a lot of single trail and gnarly rocky tracks, perfect for this bike, especially with it's lower than usual first two gears. Most KTM riders, those that own 300's find it a bit tame, usually because of the factory setting for the power valve, unscrew it and everything changes, they stop their whining. The Jetting might need adjusting for your particular region, mine was ok out of the box. The only issue I've had is the speedo magnet dropped out of the front disk, they all rattle, put a second washer in there and maybe even some silicon to hold it firm. Then there is the kickstand, the most useless one in the world, it will fall over after sinking into wet soil every time, drill a hole in the bottom of your kickstand and screw on a flat bit of metal to it.

[@utdesertghost199]

BTW, Many find the jetting to be a little rich and therefore sluggish coming into the midrange. Alot of us (around my elevation 4500-10000 ft) have switched out the needle to the Suzuki NECJ with good results.

[@pavementends2015]

Phillip Bell So that needle works well at those elevations? Was under the impression that it's best below 2k feet. What clip (from top) are you set at?

[@utdesertghost199]

Seth J. I've had it up to 10.5k this summer with a 158 main and 35 pilot and the needle on the second clip pos. Down closer to where I live I usually run about a 162 and a 38 but I usually ride before it gets above 80. and that's around 4500-6000. I'm hoping to hit the trails in this video Sunday and mybe play a little more with jetting. Next year I'll put a Lectron carb on it.

[@pavementends2015]

Phillip Bell So, 3rd clip on the needle around 5k feet?

[@utdesertghost199]

Seth J. I'm no expert on jetting so the only advice I can give is what has worked for me so take it for what it's worth. If I'm running around or over 80 degrees mine is on the 2nd clip position. I check my plug and see how the throttle response feels. Stay a little on the rich side to be cautious until your comfortable with your changes. I change elevations soo often that it's never perfect for me. I'm planning on a Lectron carb next year to make things easier.

[@tcskibike]

Ah be careful when you slap that seat back on, you missed the hooks under the middle of the seat and its hard to take it off after you put it on wrong. Love mine, on my fifth season no problems with OI! I may be getting old but front fork seems harsh.

[@Trialstire]

Engine vibs - can anyone speak to the difference of engine vibs between the 17 300 RR and a 17 300 XCW?

[@andybj4091]

Does RMATVMC plan on carrying beta OEM parts in the future?

[@BoogiemanMoto]

+1 on that, please do Rocky Mtn!

[@googleuser1522]

Please add OEM Beta parts to RMATVMC!!!

[@pavementends2015]

I own 2 Betas (14 498RR & 17 300RR Race) and would definitely shop at RMATV more often if you offered more Beta parts

[@bsanderson06]

it would be nice to have a legit online retailer as a one stop shop for our betas

[@rmatvmc]

As of right now we don't, but you never know.. Maybe here in the near future? Check back periodically.

[@pavementends2015]

I added the following to my 17 300RR Race: EE skid plate/handguards/shark fin, Fastway linkage guard, clutch cover guard, Q4 silencer (for spark arrestor), Unabiker rad guards, Shinko 505 Cheater/546 tires, 5.4 rear spring. Madly in love. And I don't mind mixing gas one bit. You're right about Sachs suspension updates... My stock 17 CC forks are light years better than revalved/modded forks on my 14 498RR. The shock is great on both bikes, actually.

[@utdesertghost199]

Seth J. Try it to start with, but if you ride above 80 degrees you may find it a bit rich. what main and pilot are you running? I'm not N expert with jetting, I go by how the plug looks and how the throttle response is. If anything stay a little to the rich side until your confident with your adjustments.

[@utdesertghost199]

Seth J. An update for you, I rode last Sunday at about 8000-8500 ft between 65-75 degrees with a 35 pilot 160 main and the NECJ needle at the 2nd clip position. yesterday I rode at about 5000 ft with the same setup and between 70-80 degrees. when I got home I pulled the plug and took a picture for you but can't attach it here. If your interested go to my FB or YT and I'll find a way to get it to you.

[@TheRhodes76]

Awesome review and looks an awesome place where you are riding 👍

[@Sleepy.Time.]

super nice bike, id love to have a Beta or GAS GAS just to be different

[@quadcityracing]

Something in me wants to ride a two-stroke on the street

[@MsCas3]

Very good and informative review!

[@jfairbanks214]

Great video! Some great upgrades I've done are Stillwell suspension, Flexx Bars, Seat Concepts seat, and the best motor improvement is a RK Tek Billet head. So much power!!

[@utdesertghost199]

Jake Fairbanks With the RK head do you still have predictable power delivery? Or is that sacrificed for the better power and top end?

[@jfairbanks214]

Phillip Bell It's still really predictable and smooth. It gave it more power on the low to mid range. Love it!!

[@crjmoto]

I'm a slow trail rider - I might like the stock setting. Can't wait to ride one. I hope they do the KTM counter-balancer no-vib mod

[@googleuser1522]

The 300RR has amazing low end torque and grunt. But it still runs second place in this category compared to the Beta XTrainer.

[@shawn_g81]

What helmet camera are you using here? The stabilization works great.

[@ssb8413]

shawn_g yeah man... it is very stable.. i wondering too... lol

[@chriscardoza9714]

is this bike available in California yet or just in the other states..

[@ichibangrom9735]

I just bought a 2018 300RR from C&D Cycles in San Diego. Great bike!!!!

[@bsanderson06]

hopefully a little more variety with tusk parts is coming now! (i.e. Red anodized parts and wheels)

[@maximusmiles8435]

I would like to see a long term review. To see if you have any of the problems I've both heard about, and experienced with Beta. I have a 2016 300 evo. The bike spent the first year going back and forth to the dealer for warranty work. Oil leaks, electrical shorting, transmission self destructing. Got so I was a afraid of what would go wrong next if I rode it. It's been a few months, and nothing but the front brake locking up occasionally has gone wrong. Keeping my fingers crossed. The dealers shop manager was pretty honest about the troubles he sees on these bikes. Until Beta makes a more reliable bike I doubt KTM has anything to worry about from Beta.

[@pavementends2015]

I've put 30 hours on my '17 300RR Race in the last 5 weeks. Only thing to fail so far was the stock DID chain (2 o-rings were bulged and eventually dropped off [yes I maintain my chain]). Will be replacing fork fluid soon and will see if rumors of premature wear are true. Else, it's already a well used bike on gnarly singletrack and has been very reliable.

[@maximusmiles8435]

That's good to hear. I only wish I had your luck. I know every brand has some horror stories. But when the service manager from a very reputable dealership says that Beta has some known issues and he thinks they should dump the brand. I tend to listen to the experts. Their shop did have a lot of Beta's in there for warranty repairs. I saw that with my own eyes. I only wish I would have gone to their shop before I spent the money.

[@iffykidmn8170]

Very surprising Beta has been in the trials game for along time and is still one of the big names at trials events, FYI the 300 EVO is a trials bike.

[@MitchVandermeer]

Great bikes top quality!

[@je4266]

Man that trail is so F’n smooth....where is this🤔 Massachusetts where stuck mountain biking shit trails and dirtbike n whooped out sand trails

[@augie186]

Hey Rocky Mountain I was wondering if you guys know if this bike is a green sticker in California or is it a red sticker

[@dmsentra]

Chance! Dude. Come on, get the camera mounted level?? lol

[@wrenchone5003]

Do you feel like it's a smaller bike than others 300's ? Other guy was saying it feels small . ?

[@adamdongle2706]

wrench One im 5,6 and fit on it nicely but people 6 foot and up can still have room to move

[@miccotheservicedog5559]

Johnie Lane, did you lower the bike any? If so, by how much? I'm 5'8 and stock it feels a bit to tall, I can only put my toes on the ground. I'm going to purchase one of the Beta's and wondering how low I might need to drop it.

[@adamdongle2706]

Micco The Service Dog i left it stock and just set my sag, i still tip toe but I find it easy enough to get a foot down

[@miccotheservicedog5559]

That works, I might at least put a 1 inch lowering seat on it.

[@chadmiller9015]

Have you had any time on the TM 300

[@rmatvmc]

We have not. Haven't gotten our hands on one. Never say never though :) ...

[@hdidane00]

how does it compare to the TM / Husqy?

[@DavidGarcia-jw1df]

How can I get my hands on a 2017 ? I’m in the Northeast, N.Y. to be exact.

[@alejandroaugustopuricelli881]

How many turns to open the exhaust valve?

[@legendproductions4573]

What trail system is that? Looks so fun!

[@cesarramos4]

I love this video So tell me where can I order this Beta with this B&B program ??

[@iffykidmn8170]

Go to the Beta website, Look in the header at the top of page BYOB and BYOB FAQS

[@mojaveadv7135]

Smooth riding!

[@tomballesteros4673]

Where do you buy one & what the price tag?

[@cactusanal9395]

is it a good enduro cross racing bike

[@volcanowb]

Wonder if they're street legal in Illinois.

[@jasons44]

Can't hear the engines? Good info tho

[@worsethanbadriders121]

Sorry to ask lol but what is the weight of the rider in this video for stiffer springs on the byob. On the fence at 200lbs if i should do the same. Thank you for the video, straight to the point and informative

[@rmatvmc]

Weighs in around 240lbs before riding gear and we went with the .48 kg fork spring rate and the 5.6 kg shock spring rate. I would probably recommend going with the stiffer springs if you are in between spring rates. Thanks

[@worsethanbadriders121]

Rocky Mountain ATV MC thanks for your reply!

[@JasonHenderson]

What setting do you run on your gopro the compression is terrible on this video. I have videos that are 13 minutes long that didn't fill up my 32gb sdcard that look 100x better than this. You should be recording in 4k for a 14 minute long video.

[@victor-emmanuel7485]

Very cool!

[@trentcarter616]

Can you please tell me where this trail is? I need to branch out from American Fork Canyon...

[@rmatvmc]

This is up Payson canyon around Jones Ranch.

[@biscuit3755]

I think you guys are a little late, they just released the 2018's.

[@weirdshibainu]

First one to say nice bike

[@mikerossi8220]

Where were you riding in this video?

[@Hulley29]

Utah

[@mikerossi8220]

Hulley29 I guess I should have specified haha I'm new to Utah trail riding and want to know where these trails actually are

[@rmatvmc]

Payson Canyon

[@Hulley29]

Gotcha! Probably the most beautiful state to ride in!

[@davecushing5500]

Why make it better? You said its for the weekend worrier . Buy a different bike if thats not what you want.

[@donpablo007franko6]

Tm s 300 engine is real no ktm bigboree 300 . Tm is way more bike

[@alexmccormack9719]

1st like

[@bigdusty1705]

Learn how to say there name!

[@theveritas5644]

Seems like a trash bike for off road and more for onroad.