2017 Grimm Lecture: Timothy Snyder on the Holocaust as History and Warning

[@kevingr7]

Timothy Snyder is as amazing an author as he is an orator. So rare to not only write so enganging but to also present it in such an amazing way. While he covers the same themes none of his lectures Ive found is the same. It almost seems improvised. Simply amazing

[@celesasheldon6931]

2017 was an important yr 😢

[@manometras]

That question about churches. Churches didn't quite feel like a country, they didn't have instruments of violence to defend their own communities from the violence of strangers, even the less would most of them try to rescue the ones they considered strangers due to another relligion or for some other reason. The people of the church were almost equally lost, helpless and scared as the rest of the society. I imagine it like that.

[@joepanzica]

What Snyder claims (with evidence in his book) is that churches (and their “faithful”) were LESS likely to rescue when they were associated with state power, authority, and esteem. When churches and their followers were in a minority or despised (cut away from power or the victims of power) they were MORE likely to rescue. The actual “faith”, “dogma” or hierarchical structure of the church mattered very little.

[@giselapfeifer4666]

Believers should/must take a stand resist and overcome evil in various forms.. that is the mission of all Christians!

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

I’m a medievalist (England - some Anglo-Saxon and I specialized in 14th century Middle English, wrote on Chaucer and the Hawain poet, through Shakespeare, Marlowe, Kydd, Dekker, et al.). The church in England would declare a person guilty of heresy and then - depending on the time period - heresy was considered a capital crime against the king - a form of treason. So the church declared a person a heretic and then the state would carry out the death penalty (such as burning at the stake)

[@theoberfaust]

This is very creative....

[@eldarrissman4172]

Excellent lecture. It took me two years of study to erase what I thought what the holocaust was (a well planned M* Mrdr that happened in Germany) to understand what really happened. The horrible D*th toll stays the same, but how and why is much different than what I learned.

[@manometras]

And that Eastern Poland was not really Poland or not really had to be Poland (but Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine) in the understanding of many of the inhabitants of these three countries and counties (and to be the USSR in the dreams of bolsheviks).

[@manometras]

And look at Russia, it is huge. It is still an empire. That's why sending repressors from one oblast of Russia to another creates possibilities for those repressors to beat, arrest people for comming to a rally or organizing one. People from far away come and apply aggression to strangers easier than what the locals would do.

[@dantrow1722]

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[@manometras]

T. Snyder is brilliant, indeed.