2018 Zero DSR Electric Motorcycle - Electro Vloggage

[@pauljones6175]

Last time i was out on my bike i caught myself nodding at another biker and caught myself saying hello sir. I wondered where the heck that had come from. After watching this now i know. I am watching to many of your great videos 😁

[@iamtherealzombie]

On the other side of the pond we just wave, since the oncoming rider is on your left ;)

[@kennelldup]

My heart was in my mouth watching this vid. I was just waiting for a pedestrian to walk out in front of you.

[@mitchellsteindler]

kennelldup you might consider relaxing a bit...

[@mrbojangles4394]

Love the enthusiasm for new technology. I’ll ‘listen out for you’ on the roads we share. Nice lid but a much nicer Union Jack badge on the jacket sleeve seen in the right mirror!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cool isn’t it! Was it you that put me onto the badge? ....a kind subscriber suggested it...

[@mrbojangles4394]

Ha ha. Yes it was me! Much better than the Oxford one! (Stoke Mandeville)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thought it must be :0) ...and thanks for the tip - much cooler than the Oxford one!

[@sirrara2667]

Great to see more of these filtering into the UK market! I'm a huge fan of them and have been wanting one for years! Looking forward to seeing more of your videos on this bike!

[@SteveInskip]

Great that you’re open to this technology! This is the future! The torque of an electric motor is more or less constant and an electric drive is way more efficient than an internal combustion engine. And you’re absolute spot-on regarding the noise! No need for loud exhausts when trail riding. It would be a lot easier for everyone. And the main thing is, this is early days for this technology, don’t anyone knock it! Everyone will need electric drives when the oil finally gets too expensive to pump out of the ground.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes there's no doubt this is the way it's going - a little more work to do but these bikes aren't far off now....I love 'em!

[@SteveInskip]

TheMissendenFlyer I would imagine it’s scaring the cr@p out of the traditional manufacturers. You don’t need a Triumph Triple motor or a Ducati V-twin. You just need a frame, a drive unit and the normal 3rd party components. Anyone can do it. An off-road ‘TMF’ anyone?

[@jaydmhearne]

Looks like a great bike...lovely day for it too! Can feel spring just around the corner thank god!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Not today you can't!! Miserable out there again :0( ...and yes, amazing bike....

[@hedgehog3900]

Thumbs up for the lid colour scheme,reminded me of shakey byrne a little. These electric bikes are exciting,our grandkids will be touring on later versions i am sure.

[@jtchivers]

Hope you enjoy the bike. I'm the nutter who did the first Land's End to John o'Groats electric motorbike trip in August last year… and then rode on to Skaw at the top of Shetland on my 2016 Zero DSR. I love it too. Just needs proper DC rapid charging as a standard manufacturer option to make me give up my trusty Honda CBF 1000.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one John - and thanks for popping by! Out of interest how did you manage that Lands End to John O Groats run? Careful planning??

[@jtchivers]

I borrowed a couple of the external Quiq chargers, courtesy of Zero in the Netherlands, via Streetbike in Halesowen, as I don't have the Charge Tank on mine (can't really justify the extra cost as standard). I swapped the top boxes on my bikes, so I had the GIVI 52 litre on the DSR and filled it with charging stuff! :-D Plenty of footage on my channel, if you're interested. Highlights videos probably easiest to consume! I've also documented it pretty extensively on www.johnchivers.com/lejogskaw.

[@jtchivers]

This was how I charged during the daytime stops. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pojLlGZ8isd1ZtU. Took it down to three hours(ish) charging time by adding an extra 2kW, so a total of 3.3kW. Yes, the new Charge tank for the 2018 takes it up to 6.6kW, which, as you say, makes it more interesting, but I still reckon we need proper DC, electric car charging-type option, bringing it down to minutes. It's a bit frustrating that my car (a 24 kWh LEAF) will charge in around 30 mins up to 80% from empty when they bike at half the capacity can't get close. Looking forward to your thoughts on it, but glad you like it so far!

[@monman8183]

Wow. I can tell your enjoying that by the excitement in your voice! Pressing the reset button as opposed to adjusting the valves will be something I'll look forward to! Keep up the good work.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Indeed I am - great fun these electric beasts...and yes another plus point for the future!

[@ianpoole594]

I think without this is where the future of motorcycling is

[@spetersonmusic]

Really going to enjoy watching and learning - it's not always just 'better or worse' but just 'different' and in all aspects, a new way to enjoy something we all love can't be bad. Just because you have/want/use an electric bike doesn't mean it's an 'either/or' situation as so many tend to view these things. And outside of the EU/GB the Shoei NXR = RF-1200; which is the helmet I've had for the past 3 years. I love mine!!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

As ever I completely agree with you Scott!

[@coleythailand999]

The thoughts of not being heard on a motorcycle......that rings alarms for me.....sound effects first upgrade. Thanks for your vids.....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Colin!

[@tomthompson7400]

electrics getting tempting ,,, very tempting looking forwards to following this for a few weeks

[@alansykes1496]

Don't worry about the pace of development in these vehicles' battery technology and charging rates. For example, only this week ( first wk of Feb ) the biggest mass market car maker in the world, Hyundai ( 10 thousand vehicles of all specs PER DAY - they smelt their own sheet metal and fabricate their own rubber and poly products on-site ) has released a car with a three-hundred mile range - the Kona electric; see the reviews.

[@lordstevens121]

i noticed buzzing noise on the audio. Love the Zero.

[@iamtherealzombie]

Wonder if it's EFI from the bike?

[@disekjoumoer]

Me too

[@nicholascrocker4329]

Can you imagine the conversation when electric bike enthusiasts get together. Comparing one another's rotors, windings and noiseless none existing exhausts.

[@loddude5706]

Not to mention the Duracell Bunny leathers . . .

[@mrfob6237]

Delighted to see this long-term review is happening. I don't understand why the big bike manufacturers aren't doing more for electric bikes. Thank you TMF for covering important bikes in a real biker's way and not in the mcn motor journalist way.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for the kind comments - much appreciated! All the best - TMF

[@jakecray5401]

Having a beer and enjoying watching TheMissendenFlyer Video. Looks like a cool electric bike! Keep up the amazing work!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you JJ as ever....American made you see, it has to be good!

[@rumien1383]

TheMissendenFlyer counterpoint....so is Trump.

[@andrewf1326]

Lands End to John O groats.... thats one long extension lead! In Oz maybe strap a solar panel to your back and charge as you ride. Patent pending 😊

[@jtchivers]

Andrew Fairweather I managed without the extension lead, and the extra AA batteries! 😁

[@RutgerSmets]

That was so.... quiet! Great video, and it was great meeting you Friday at the London Excel!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You too Rutger - glad you were able to make it!

[@iainian]

Underground train is a good comparison! It's so quite all I can hear from the vid is the wind rushing by...incredible! The torque must be immense. The only down side at the moment if there is a down side is lack of a "noisy" end can or just lack of noise!(As you mentioned) An amazing bit of kit and looking forward to your long term review!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Iain - stay tuned!

[@Malyjurek]

Can't wait to see more of the Electric bike review, at last a new dimension in biking...reminds me of the days when I was working as a milk delivery boy on a electric milk float..

[@buaan]

The Trail versions of these really interest me, might be able to get away with riding offroad in more places in the UK with them making no noise!?

[@weko6273]

I heard people on the freeride e xc going full hooligan style on both a petrol bike trough town and electric, the petrol got called in to the police in 20 minutes, the freeride e just had a free pass to go, nobody bothered

[@pauljones8942]

Would love one of these, especially for day to day riding. My only issues would be winter riding ( no heated grips or ability to power a heated jacket liner ) and tyre availability choices ( would want full road tyres, no knobblies )

[@pastie3131]

Another great review. I can see the appeal of electric bikes, but I think I would miss the sound from the cans and the fun of slipping through gears. Maybe electric bikes will take off when all us old school internal combustion engine gits have been consigned to a museum somewhere! Keep up the great work sir.

[@ughxr500a3]

hopefully updates work properly unlike a lot of updates on my ph that I often have 2 uninstall

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes it worked fine - seamless in fact...

[@Awatchandy]

Cool ride and looks great, it is the way forward and the price is starting to come down! I know you are quite an avid Bird Watcher but now you stand a chance sneaking up on the feathered variety!

[@micksmith1984]

Enjoyed as always TMF. The dealership always offer a test ride on one of these when I’m in for service. I’ve always politely declined but may just take their offer up next time I’m in.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You definitely should Mick...

[@Miata822]

I can see you're having a lot of fun with it. I do hope you get some decent weather while it's available. I rode a Zero some years ago and it was impressive but it does look like they have really stepped up their game. I'll have to go give it another try. I love my electric cars.

[@garya3056]

Hi, TMF- thx for a nice vid of this bike. I’m certain we’ll see more of these in the near future. I see that even Harley Davidson is working on one and that’s some serious deviation from their norm. I ride a pretty quiet Ducati and a moderately noisy Fatboy, and I must tell you I assume that no one hears me on the Ducati and that most hear me on the Harley. If I were on an electric bike, I’m probably in for a whole other mindset. Enjoy the test rides and be safe. Cheers.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF

[@michaelneve3223]

I'd love to ride one of these to see what it's like, want to experience the torque!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

It's something else it really is...

[@thorstambaugh1520]

There is a reason everyone who first rides one grins like a cheshire cat

[@LaJiahao]

Congratulations on your new baby m8

[@manusk40]

Should put an akra on it !

[@fastlanediaries6593]

Like it! 🤙 Great to meet you at the Bike Shiw Friday-I was with the two skinheads who asked for the selfie! You made his day!!! 👮‍♂️

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to spread a little happiness my friend :0) Thanks for coming to say hello, enjoyed chatting with you chaps....

[@marcelvin6259]

Love the vid and bike. Any idea life expectancy of the battery and potential cost of replacement?

[@thorstambaugh1520]

Battery is good for around 300000 miles, engine has one moving part and good for around 500000 miles minimum.

[@thomass3769]

I like when I have captions on during your intro it says (music) when you rev the triumph

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Clever captions!

[@bikesmith]

Remember to mention that on electric bikes no break in is needed. Oh and all the usual maintenance - Air filter, oil, valves, etc is a thing of the past.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes lot's of plus points you don't necessarily think of when you consider these machines...

[@bobz1736]

But how long does the battery pack last and how much is a new one. Also the electric motor will need some maintenance at some time. .. surely. Plus the regular brakes bearings belt checks etc. ..

[@spiritusinfinitus]

Depends on how good the battery management is on this. Using Tesla cars as a benchmark, for example, the Lithium Ion battery degradation is turning out to be a lot slower than people initially expected it to be. After 90,000 miles most owners are still seeing 90-95% of original capacity and as the tech improves that will continue to get better. On the Teslas, the larger capacity batteries have unlimited mileage warranties for up to 8 years, and I'm pretty sure this bike is more or less using the same kind of cells, just less of 'em. (Just found something on Zero's site that says their warranty is 5 years and covers covers parts, including the motor, motor controller, frame, swing arm, fork, rear shock, brake assemblies, wheels and electrical sub-assemblies, and approved Zero accessories) I think it's likely that it'll probably be more likely to change the battery because you want a performance/range upgrade with newer technology in a few years rather than the battery itself losing any noticeably significant capacity. (This probably goes out of the window in very cold or very hot conditions though unless they have adequate management of that too). The battery will probably be the most expensive part of these vehicles to replace (at the moment anyway). In 2012, around about the time when Zero first made bikes that'd do 100 mile ranges, battery costs were around $600 per KW/h and back then it was estimated that this would fall to $160 per KW/h by 2025. Turns out we've already hit that target and it actually looks more likely that we'll get to $100 per KW/h by 2020! So, presumably that means that replacement packs will either get cheaper, or the range will increase for the same price. Zero say "the compact brushless motor requires no liquid or forced-air cooling and requires no routine maintenance." Because of the regenerative braking on these things there'll be less brake wear, but they will of course still require maintenance. I wonder if this puts extra stresses on the belt though, or maybe that's just extra heavy duty? I imagine bearings, shocks, tyres, light bulbs etc. will all be exactly the same as any other bike.

[@ianchambers2731]

Considering the performance and high cost, along with the fact they're a bit of an unknown quantity, how does it look insurance-wise?

[@notabiker1]

If you're stupid then you follow manufacturers break-in bs. If you're smart you break it in in 25 miles or so then ride it normally. Go do yourself a favor and read mototuneusa.com

[@johnnyViDeO]

Fantastic bike and instant torque whenever you twist the wrist. I wonder if there are any negative health effects being so close to massive energy between your legs....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

...well I have massive energy in that department and have never had a problem (I have twins in fact)....

[@petewebb6952]

I just tried a 2018 Zero DS ZF14.4. Seems all good. Really shifts well in Sport mode. Other than that it handles well like a fast 650. They want £12.5k for the ex demo which they say includes the UK incentive. Seems a lot to me as you can get a new one £13.490 including Govt Incentive. I’m not sure I trust the dealerships, including BMW, with the incentives. Do they hike the price I wonder? Good bike though. Twice the price of a good 650cc petrol engine.

[@neilcole3406]

You lucky boy! Looks like the future is here!

[@chrisredfield3240]

The future is here it's just the price is to high.

[@adamgilchrist4134]

Nice looking bike .Look forward to your next vloggs as i will not be riding my Tiger for a few month's as i have broken my Ankle.

[@cloggsy1971]

Looks a cracking bit of kit; I’d certainly go ‘electric’ with fast charging capabilities 👍🏻 What’s happening with the Sinnis Scrambler thing; has it rusted away yet? How many miles have you done on that over the winter?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Still going strong - ridden it in rain and snow - not loads of miles....long term review to come in SPring!

[@jamesgoodwin2450]

This will be brilliant to find out how they work in the real world look forward to your long term review

[@rickhyatt3092]

The more I see of this bike,the more I like it,,it's just the lack of noise that worries me because over time you feel sure that someone will step out in front of you,apart from that what a great bike,nice lid by the way 😊

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Rick - have you ridden an electric bike yet?

[@rickhyatt3092]

No,wish I had,hopefully get on one soon,like you I quite fancy one for a second bike,best of both worlds then,it's plainly the way biking is going to go in next 5 or ten years

[@brucekendall52]

I love the concept and could easily live with one for commuting but the pricing is prohibitive when compared with other bikes that you could buy for the same money.Thks for the experience.

[@rickp9946]

I was seriously thinking about one of these but I've sort of ruled it out for now. For the more powerful of the DSR models plus the extra range additions you're looking at BMW GS levels of outlay - i.e. around £18K or more - and as it's a continually developing technology there is the worry that it will quickly lose value as the technology moves on. Compounding that is the sheer cost of the batteries and whether future buyers will want that risk beyond the warranty. Hasn't hurt secondhand cars such as the Leaf and Zoe though so I may be wrong there. However, it's definitely the way to go - for me I'll just wait a little while I think. I think a nice Street Triple will fit the bill in the meantime!

[@specialcircs]

Rick P I'm in the same position and strongly agree with the points you made. The biggest issue is technology - as you say it advances so quickly the older models are essentially worthless.

[@HollowPoint64]

The problem is, if no one buys these earlier models, the companies go bust and never produce the later models. If no one had bought the first injection cars for example, with all that new tech that was unreliable and expensive and became outdated quite quickly, we'd probably all still be using vehicles with Carbs.

[@jbooth013]

Ah... Wendover & Halton! There’s some memories from the past! Awesome bike too! Shame about the price tag - maybe in a few years I can add one to the collection.

[@albertosbrolla8424]

I did see your previous video on this bike, I would seriously consider one of these if the price were a bit more reasonable. They are very intriguing, I would love to take one for a test ride! Thanks for sharing!👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

If you get the chance Alberto you should give one a go! A hoot!

[@colinmorgan6733]

Lovely bike, love the chilled out cruising concept and you can get a wiggle on if you want to - easily. To be honest how many bikers ride more than 100 miles per ride-out? You could have one of these for local stuff and a conventional one for long-distance stuff, bliss if you can afford it. Often ride past horses in our neck of the woods (did on Sunday through Axmansford) and that would improve biker-public relations. Interested in how much per mile it is to run.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

Between 1 and 2 cents per mile here in the states. All the bikers when they see one automatically become cruisers that do 1000 miles a day and to the south pole on weekends. Fact is the average Joe does 37 miles a day and 100 on weekends. Keep an old locomotive for the long hauls.

[@Srgthe]

Around 18 grand! dam. that's way more than i expected for that. way to expensive for that, around 9 i might have considered it but no way at that money.

[@chrisredfield3240]

I would say £6k at most. I know it's fast until it runs out of puff at real speeds. But it's not much bike. Only like a fast 300cc

[@spiritusinfinitus]

You're still paying for the development costs of the new tech/batteries etc.. Once these things scale up to mass market levels and these costs are covered they should potentially end up a lot cheaper than traditional bikes because there are a LOT less precision moving parts in 'em, will take less labour to build. Of course, the manufacturers will keep the costs high for as long as they can!

[@chrisredfield3240]

I look forward to the day they get cheaper. When they are good value for money they will sell well. Speed aside range and cost are terrible

[@rocketrollsvlogs7625]

You can get a demo DS for 9k. Not that big a difference between a DS and DSR.

[@Frygonz]

I totally agree, but they are nearly maintenance free, which is a strong consideration.

[@ThumperXT]

Cool video sir, i think i would miss the sound of my Night Rods full Akropovic noise though.

[@Sonnybee01]

Have.you checked out Feb. For the Ride Foggy and Davis talk about and ride he new Street Triple

[@hudsonrilke]

Exciting. Very interested in how you get on with this. Love the helmet too.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers :0)

[@flapjackmaximus554]

New helmet? Love it.

[@mej6519]

Looks like a great daily commute bike, That leaves my gsxr750 for tracks days and weekend blats, seems just about perfect to me.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Go for it!

[@paulverney4753]

Enjoyed the video as always Mr F. Now off to do some man maths and work out how to get a Zero in my life!! Keep up the good work.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Good luck!

[@regprescott9894]

Im a Shoei man and there is something strangely satisfying about the smell of a new helmet

[@specialcircs]

If you do that comparison with the Triple, can you please include the comparative costs? (E.g. cost to buy and charge Zero VS running and maintaining the petrol bike)?

[@WatermarquePaul]

Interesting review TMF, look forward to the follow up videos. Certainly a bike to consider for the future.

[@gloverintl]

I'm hoping to see the electric bikes continue to become more practical. Wendover does look lovely. I hope I get a chance to ride through some of those picturesque UK towns, one day.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Where are you in the world gloverintl?

[@gloverintl]

I live near Chattanooga, Tennessee. We have a good supply of picturesque riding, here too. Maybe we should trade for a couple weeks.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

That would be nice (I have been to Chattanooga as it happens - many years ago on a flying holiday......)

[@andrewrivers3594]

Hi TMF not sure whether its my computer but there seems to be some interference on the audio. Is this interference coming from the bike? Love the Zero by the way.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Err, if you mean that low level buzzing, I think it's my mic, it's done that all the time but on conventional bikes you can't hear it due the engine noise!

[@PaulSlootman]

I heard it, and it's more of high frequency clicking, like you used to get with cheap car radios with a badly decoupled dynamo. Your interference sounded speed dependent, so originating from the bike. Of course the electrical currents involved are rediculous, and those are switched on and off digitally, making it hard to suppress interference. I'd like to hear what an AM radio does when the bike is working :)

[@markbright7845]

You lucky, lucky so and so! Deeply jealous.

[@YeOldOak]

Great review once more TMF, just like the car world, we'll all be driving/riding electric eventually.

[@henryedwards4540]

Was that electrical interference on your mic at 04:10 when you got onto the bike?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I think it's always there you just don't normally hear it...or my mic is on the blink...

[@OfficialWilly]

Very cool bike! Would love to see a few more 125 reviews if possible, there really isn’t much in the way of high quality 125 reviews on KZbin and would be great to see what you’ve got to say about them as someone who has experience riding a wide range of machines :)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I have two 125's in the garage as I type - stay tuned!

[@MrTrek164]

I,m a convert and totally agree with you on all points .The big problem is the price ATM so if they really want a big slice of the action they need to sell for 10k max to compete for bike and maxi scooter sales . The quick charge is also going to be the key to promoting sales .Battery tech is moving fast so I don't think it will be long before we see 200 mile range with reduced weight and 1 hr 90% charge .Look forward to the rest of your review . How much does it cost for 1 full charge ?

[@colindeans5972]

I agree with the tyres issue. I think the bike would look better with road tyres and a low level Street Triple style front mudguard. Thanks again TMF, look forward to see how you get on with the hoovercycle.

[@palantir135]

Looking forward to the coming reviews of this bike. 9 degrees C and sun 😎. We had 4 with clouds. Too cold to ride. It seems that next week it's going to be much colder, so still no riding for me 😟

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Too bad! Feel for you....

[@palantir135]

TheMissendenFlyer Thanks. Oh well, I'll live 😋

[@echanos]

After watching this I regret not taking a ride when a local dealer had a demo weekend last summer. It just sounds like a more relaxing riding experience, that comes across even on the video. Of course you might not always be looking for that on a bike ride. However it might make a great second bike or commuter if one has the means. I've only seen one on the road and it was ridden by a friendly biker who gave a honk as he whizzed by at an intersection.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Certainly a very different riding experience - well worth a go if you can!

[@andrewjamesphotography8888]

I wonder how the ambient temperature will affect that battery range.

[@ajh5825]

Definitely room for both, would take the electric route over my high revving GPz but the grin inducing sound of the Royal Enfield touring the lanes of a Sunday morning is irreplaceable :-) Have you been to the Aces High gallery in Wendover, a great place to spend an hour or 2 (best leave the good lady at home though)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

No I've not been - good then I take it?

[@andrewheyes8524]

love your videos. any chance you can do close up on the dash boards on your walk rounds. keep up the good work.

[@CajunGreenMan]

Zero has a sales slogan 'Magic Carpet Ride'. Very appropriate. I test rode the regular upright (not sure what they call that model), and it was awesome! I had also test rode the Harley LiveWire, and unfortunately the group leader/follower were both on gas Harleys that were so loud you totally missed the 'Magic Carpet Ride' effect. Can't wait to own my own electric one day, but I prefer the Energica. Also, I plan to set up a button-controlled infinite loop of the theme song to David Tennant's 'Doctor Who' to warn people that I'm coming at the touch of a button. Although the sound of the TARDIS would be pretty cool too!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I’m liking your thinking Jeff!

[@IanFitzHarris]

Tremendous manners...tremendous bike!

[@StefsEngineering]

Cool bike! I wouldn't mind riding an electric bike but I've got another bike on my wishlist that is similarly priced (1200GS family) and that one would definately win in terms of versatility and range. and as stated numerous times, it's quite a lot of money. I wouldn't say expensive but it is a lot of money for sure!

[@olethanatos8173]

You hit most of the points I would like to know, charging, the life of the battery, true range, moveability/turning radius. I have no doubt you will do a proper fair review and look forward to it. Perhaps DSR would pay for you to change the tires too. I too like your new helmet very classy...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF

[@matthewbannister5951]

Great video, I'm really interested in how these bikes are developing. Looking forward to seeing what the real world usable range is.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Me too!

[@piggymito]

Looks a nice bit of kit. Do you think you'll get a chance to take it on any fire roads or green lanes? I really like the idea of e bikes for green laning, nice and quiet to keep the countryside peaceful.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

These are too heavy for off roading in my opinion....

[@HippoDrones]

I do love the concept of electric bikes, I wonder how they will develop in the future? :-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Interesting times ahead hippodrones!

[@Mtthwpez]

Hopefully a longer range, a shorter charging time and the price come way down. They are getting there, though!

[@richardowens5796]

I will definitely go that way should the bikes be improved further, batteries etc. But it needs to happen sooner rather than later, old fart me...

[@GMANS_BIKES_CARS]

Looks great fun mate, I guess if you are just commuting short distances and popping to the pub it would be superb fun, as you said. Long distances are a no go 😜

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Agreed - although once the charging is down too sub one hour (new gadget out next month to allow this apparently) the whole proposition gets a whole lot more practical...

[@tigerick2584]

That's a great review of the future.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF

[@TheDervMan]

Fantastic stuff, it’s the future and I can’t wait 👍🏻😬

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Hey good to hear from you DM!

[@HepcatHarley]

I went to the Bike Show on Saturday, far too busy but I did see a rather large teapot called Bruce.

[@JamieP.London]

Looks fun, I’d like a go but doubt it’s something I’d ever buy. Is that buzzing noise when you slow down the bike or some sort interference between bike and camera?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Dunno...

[@martinfrost3596]

The sound reminds me of those old milk floats, all that's missing is the rattling bottles :)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Trust me it doesn't go like a milk float!

[@paultaylor6766]

Now that sounds cool, sounds like an electric tram, or tube, plus instant power....Bring on Tron, or Battle Star Galactica, who'd of thought! Showing my age now.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers - always good to have you along! All the best - TMF

[@Vernon240]

Sounds like it’s turbine smooth! With the fast charging, could this potentially use the charging points at motorway services? I’d be interested in what the lighting is like, drl’s during the day and brighter at night? Any impact on range if night time riding uses a different light mode? I guess anything that draws appreciable current....so heated anything...could effect this....be interested what zero think to this. I guess the biggest issue is initial cost.....but for buzzing around town and relatively short trips, it’s ideal and looks fun to boot! Couple of other questions, warranty on the bike, especially the battery, expected life and should it need it, the cost of a new battery. I have the older NXR design, the Valkyrie, similar colour combination. Great lid and the photochromatic transitions visor is a great addition! Nice update TMF.....lucky bugger! Enjoy!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Vernon - noted your questions for a later video....

[@antonoat]

Superb, how long until you own one? There's got to be a strong case for one as an alternative. Thanks for sharing this. cheers

[@bigwu100]

Id love to try one out, my thoughts as I am a rider who rides a gl1800 currently, first of all, its quiet, quick, clean, low maintenance. that is a win. any way you look. unlike some bikes trying to sell a way of life, this looks to me to be very eco-transportation. i simply love the idea. just waiting on batterie tech to catch up. even magnet tech.

[@beardedclecker]

Looking forward to your impartial review on this bike MF, there's no denying this is the future of motorcycling.

[@Addy29plus5]

Ummm yes I can and will Deny this is not the future. You think sales are down on bikes now wait until a few ppl die because they can’t be heard by other road users and the classic “I didn’t see you mate” turns into I didn’t see or hear you mate”

[@OntarioAndrews415]

Good selling point; Buy A 2018 Zero DSR Because It Works Well With Horses. :)

[@spiritusinfinitus]

Get it really filthy and see how easy it is to clean. Is there anything noticeably different / ie, does loads of crud around the motor cooling fins make any difference, can you jet wash those bits? Also, will the charging wotsit you mentioned allow charging out and about on one of the charging points at motorway service stations etc.? I'm presuming to use this at home you need something special wired into the garage. I'm guessing the existing slow charger is just using an ordinary 13amp plug in your garage and nothing special?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for the questions - duly saved for my long term review - stay tuned!

[@tiberius301]

with speakers for an exhaust you could make it soumd like any combustion engine configuration.. and maybe an algorithym to mimic engine feel? Singles through twins to inline fours? That would be the future .

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Now you're talking!

[@thorstambaugh1520]

We dont need horseheads and tails on our cars why muck up an electric?

[@johnstonstewart2298]

I found this test electrifying!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Very good - see what you did there!

[@loneridar]

Nice Lid man ! Whats the make and model?

[@TeslasSecret]

David O'Hare Shoei NXR

[@loneridar]

yeah its a beaut

[@TeslasSecret]

David O'Hare Great helmet as well ! Happen to own one of these albeit in a different paint scheme, called "Valkyrie", it is lovely. Pretty shape this lid, looks very much to have been shaped in the wind tunnel.

[@APsupportsTerrorism]

Would like to see a review that puts it in custom w/full throttle and high regen brake settings... both to see how it effects range and how well it mimics engine braking. I do this some on my hybrid and it works quite well - never use pedal brakes over 20mph (or I got cut off) but curious how it's set up for these... and every review just uses Sport. Zero's info online says Sport mode has almost no regen braking.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I'll see what I can do for you in future videos!

[@garysavage5675]

When are you going to do a Q and a with wildbad touring or even better go on a tour 👍

[@davidboyer9894]

Yes, TMF, it would be great if you would tell us when you’re planning to put out the next MTV. Ritchie & crew would be great and didn’t you say you had already met up with Cpt. Rambunctious & Phil 480?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

So much to do, so little time! Stay tuned!

[@geoffs646]

As a London Taxi driver,and a bike fanatic,we now have electric powered vehicles.I like the idea of both,but although we can discuss the mileage range,I would be interested as to the cost of battery replacement ,once depleted.Thanks for your great channel,Regards.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Geoff - I believe the battery has a 5 year guarantee - but I don't know the answer to your question, I guess this is a fear a lot of potential owners would have....

[@cctv5277]

Love the sound of it, although I do prefer the bottom end grunt of my twin. Off piste from the bike, I’m liking your new lid. Great vid

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Colin.....

[@Jetskicentral]

Hey TMF - great news on the long term review ..Would be interesting to see the interface on the iPhone in full along with the charger, how you hook it up etc Does it do 80% charge in half the time like most devises these days or is the 9 hour charge linear ie if you wack it on for an hour how much charge do you have ? Cheers

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yep - will endeavour to cover that in the long term review in due course...cheers - TMF

[@PsychoPaul13]

There seems to be a lot of buzzing on the audio. Not sure if it’s the bike the new set up or me. 😂😂😂 Anyway off to try one next week 👍.