2019 Honda Gold Wing vs. BMW K1600GT - The Luxury Touring Review

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@cosicave5179
@cosicave5179 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I agree with you guys: the Gold Wing is a clear winner. Larger fuel tank and more stowage space would make it perfect. BMW is a great bike but really, nothing compares to this new Gold Wing…
@markmath2883
@markmath2883 4 жыл бұрын
I have four bikes, a 2009 BMW RT that I recently acquired with 13,000 miles, 94 BMW R1100RS, ‘97 Honda Valkyrie with 102,000 miles and Triumph Bonneville T100. I am mulling over selling all but the Triumph and getting a new Gold Wing or BMW. The RT has already cost me $1,300 in routine maintenance, plus has a fuel gauge (fuel strip) problem that cost me $400 and is on the fourth strip. The dealership no longer works on bikes over 10 years old and the service manager said they have numerous new BMWs that can’t be sold due to leaking brake calipers.
@nokoolaid
@nokoolaid 5 жыл бұрын
The goldwing would be easier to live with from a maintenance perspective and more reliable.
@alp3781
@alp3781 4 жыл бұрын
You are not wrong, boss. I sold my Grand America 2 years old since new. Sadly, too many issues and electrical problems. I had enough. I loved that bike. I just got 2020 Goldwing DCT Tour. Do not regret for a min. The K1600 is an amazing machine....AS LONG AS they run smoothly. If not, say hi to the dealer more then you think. Also, very hard to work on.
@sinister2423
@sinister2423 3 жыл бұрын
@@alp3781 What's the price of both in USA?
@alp3781
@alp3781 3 жыл бұрын
@@sinister2423 These days, I would say the same price more or less. The Honda seems like of a more bike for the dollar.
@duncanmcginnis
@duncanmcginnis 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree, my local Honda service department is head and shoulders above the BMW shop
@nokoolaid
@nokoolaid 3 жыл бұрын
@@alp3781 IDK. The K bike is a bit different. As someone that rides one up 99.99% of the time, a K1600GT appeals to me more than the GW. The luggage is quick detachable and compared to the 2018-2020 GW, it has more storage. The ergos are better for me too. That being said, the maintenance on the K bike leaves me cold. If I got another BMW, I'd get a RT again.
@steveacevedo820
@steveacevedo820 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a BMW fanatic but believe you guys nailed it, the new Gold Wing is an amazing bike.
@MrScruffmuff
@MrScruffmuff 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@edholtgraver7771
@edholtgraver7771 5 жыл бұрын
Looked at and rode Gold Wing and K1600GA. Bought the K1600GA. Greater range, holds my helmet in the top box, smoother shifting and gearing ( manual Honda - I do not buy auto transmissions in my cars or bikes), replaceable GPS, etc.
@sredju
@sredju 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, right.
@eric_w8ing_for_1776
@eric_w8ing_for_1776 5 жыл бұрын
....i dO nOt BuY aUtO TrAnSmIsSiOns.....
@Doug-tc2px
@Doug-tc2px 5 жыл бұрын
I own a K1600GT, love the bike and for me it's perfect but two-up touring I'd lean towards the Goldwing.
@davereinhart9933
@davereinhart9933 5 жыл бұрын
I own a BMW GTL and ride it every day. I marvel at the engine, suspension and overall ride every time I am on it. Great review guys! Hello from Idaho. Ride across the USA soon and stop by this amazing state.
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dave. We'll stop by. :D
@burnerjack01
@burnerjack01 5 жыл бұрын
As my new GTL is my Bucket List bike, I hope to get out to Yellowstone and maybe beyond (from the East Coast). Idaho has always been on the list. Man, what a truly impressive state you live in!
@davereinhart9933
@davereinhart9933 5 жыл бұрын
@@burnerjack01 I am overwhelmed by it's beauty every day! You have a place to stay if you come west.
@lance3613
@lance3613 5 жыл бұрын
Hello from Eagle....on my Goldwing.
@yourdogmabites9477
@yourdogmabites9477 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I bought a 2018 K1600 GTL last summer, after 20 years on my 1999 Honda Valkyrie. I test rode the new Goldwing Tour 6 speed, planning on buying it because of my long history on Honda bikes, but took a test ride on the GTL on a whim after putting a deposit on a GW. Once I experienced the difference in power and handling, ripping off clutch-less upshifts under full power, it was all over. I also liked the Beemer's additional luggage capacity, which is great on two-up trips, and the ability to easily remove the trunk when it's not needed. Ride whatever you love boys and girls!
@alp3781
@alp3781 3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos. After watching this, I went with the new K1600 Grand America. Loved it so much till it hit 15K. After that, nothing but crap. I was at the dealer more then you know. It was not a Lemon bike !!! Its all the damn BOSCH sensors that this engine has plus problems with Hot and cold starts plus the major recall they had on the 6th gear which I did not have my bike for like 9 days. No loaner and far away dealer. I HAD ENOUGH !!!! Sold, lost tiny on her and went to the new Goldwing DCT Tour. I have 6K on a 2020 so far. ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO problems. She runs so good, so smooth, the Sport Mode is fantastic. I love the DCT and do not miss the clutch any more. I think GW from now on.....period.
@abazdarhon
@abazdarhon 5 жыл бұрын
I own GTL E 2018 and I have bought myself the most expensive coffee do to lots of service visit. Use this bike daily done 10000 miles have new engine fitted, problems with electronics etc. and as always bike pull to left. I found myself that bmw owners are like Harley owners, everything is perfect, bike have no issue yet then you see them in dealer drinking coffee same as me. For me is a problem because is no other touring bike in market with this performance so let’s go for another coffee
@oldfart7479
@oldfart7479 5 жыл бұрын
abazdarhon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@osamabinladen824
@osamabinladen824 5 жыл бұрын
That. Is. So. Confusing.
@zoranv12
@zoranv12 5 жыл бұрын
just go for RT next time, or at least go for a ride with one, while waiting there :) I did it, and never looked back (at least not with passion).
@abazdarhon
@abazdarhon 5 жыл бұрын
Zoran Veličkovski RT is for elderly people i am in my 30s and dont want granda bike with no performance
@zoranv12
@zoranv12 5 жыл бұрын
It only means youre subjective, and never gave it a try ;)
@patrickwade3150
@patrickwade3150 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Oregon! Great video and review guys. 2 months ago I traded my 2014 Honda ctx1300 for the 2019 Goldwing airbag model and absolutely love it. No bike is perfect but this one really comes close. The performance is incredible. I'm getting 45-48 mpg. I'm about to go on my first roadtrip with it now that I feel very comfortable with riding it. I was amazed at how nimble the handling is for a heavy bike. Again, great video. Safe riding.
@gm8709043992
@gm8709043992 4 жыл бұрын
How many miles between fillups?
@CrazyGreek80
@CrazyGreek80 3 жыл бұрын
For the longest time I looked at the Goldwing as my grandfather's motorcycle but the new version looks meaner and stealthier I'm all for some Goldwing now.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 5 жыл бұрын
The Goldwing is a GOOD bike at any age.
@gifford888
@gifford888 4 жыл бұрын
*Any age over 75
@09Mrsubaru
@09Mrsubaru 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 28 and I own a 2018 GW.
@Accurize2
@Accurize2 4 жыл бұрын
David Gifford *Any age when you don’t give a shit about other people’s opinions. I’m starting that at age 41.
@keemez
@keemez 4 жыл бұрын
Yeppers. I bought my '12 GW at age 39 and love it 7 years later... averaging close to 10k/year with it in the upper midwest where we're lucky to get a 6 month riding season at best.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 4 жыл бұрын
@@keemez I had a '13 and put 45k miles on it, I still marvel at that bike and miss it. The boxer engine made valve checks easy.
@billleskeep2033
@billleskeep2033 5 жыл бұрын
Great review gentlemen, very fair and complimentary to both fantastic bikes. I ride a 1500 Valkyrie which shares some of the characteristics of the Gold Wing without accoutrements of comfort. I've test ridden the BMW 1600 and other models, and the BMW indeed has strengths for agility, but for cruising, the chassis of the Gold Wing cannot be beat. I wished you had addressed mountain ascents and descents, as this is where the Gold Wing suffers, like the Valkyrie. I've ridden all the European Alps and find the weight of the Wing, and the need to remain in 2nd and 3rd on ascents while using the same on descents, requires extreme diligence on the part of the rider. Doing it two-up is nearly crazy, as weight, inertia of mass on descents in hairpins makes this a challenge. I'm sure the BMW does this better. The comment about road surface is spot on; roads in Europe transition from cobblestone, to flat stone surfaces, to asphalt, and the heavy Wing must be extremely careful. Great review!
@vmx5111
@vmx5111 5 жыл бұрын
You two need to do more of these comparison videos. You do a fantastic job of going over the machines and giving your opinions with a sprinkling of humor!
@zunaidkajee4540
@zunaidkajee4540 5 жыл бұрын
I had a k1600b, made a mistake and sold it and bought the goldwing. Within a month i was lucky enough to get rid of that huge scooter and got back on a new bagger again. Thank God.
@hereb4theend
@hereb4theend 5 жыл бұрын
Why the change of heart? 😯
@zunaidkajee4540
@zunaidkajee4540 5 жыл бұрын
@@hereb4theend hi buddy. The biggest reason for me was the DCT box. The bike just felt like a huge scooter. I guess I am not ready for a gearbox to think for me on a bike yet, let alone change five gears in a matter of 100mts. I know you can put it in sport mode, etc, but it was still a schlep for me. Also, I live in south Africa, and here we do not get the nav on the goldwing, and it is totally senseless to have such a huge screen to only display radio stations. Unlike other parts of the world, for every 1 honda dealership, we have 50 bmw dealerships. The bike also is speed limited to 200kph. The k1600 GTL is about R100k less than the Honda, but it certainly does not have more than R100k worth of extras to justify. Just a few of my reasons.
@hereb4theend
@hereb4theend 5 жыл бұрын
@@zunaidkajee4540 I love these kinds of stories about riders finding their perfect bikes and the emotional connection they find in them. Thank you for sharing your experience. The K1600 is definitely a one of a kind cruiser. 😊
@theonlyredspecial
@theonlyredspecial 4 жыл бұрын
K1600 is one of my favourite bikes of all time. Its a big comfy tourer, but that engine is very special ! So addictive to do big miles on it. Ive the comfort package, different brown hand made seats, akrapovic cans and some other mods. Love it. Getting the right screen took a bit of time as im 6ft3 , but it was fun.
@deandoucette7206
@deandoucette7206 3 жыл бұрын
Please, let me know what screen you have because I am 6’ 2.5” and plan to buy a 2017 K1600GT in only a few months.
@AuRowe
@AuRowe Жыл бұрын
⁠did you get it?
@rloughead
@rloughead 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised by the outcome, I was convinced the BMW was the winner, I watched your review of the 2018 BMW K1600GT and it influenced me to purchase a 2019 K1600GT. Both are iconic Motorcycles, my opinion is the K1600GT is more off a versatile Motorcycle take of the Top case you have an incredible sport cruiser, while the Goldwing is built as a cruiser. FYI on the BMW there is a shortcut menu to get your right to the handlebar grips. When I am out on a long road trip I really feel better about the BMW fuel Capacity. Either way the scenery and camera work Is brilliant and I enjoyed watching.
@theonlyredspecial
@theonlyredspecial 4 жыл бұрын
well said! I owned a gold wing and I think for a tourer like this the small tank size is a bit of a concern. It always annoyed me why they didn't put at least a 25 liter tank on it.
@robertoterriquez2132
@robertoterriquez2132 4 жыл бұрын
Is it true that the BMW is governed at 100 mph?
@deandoucette7206
@deandoucette7206 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertoterriquez2132 no
@Kraftsauger
@Kraftsauger 5 жыл бұрын
Great review made by two friendly guys. Since a year I own the new Goldwing DCT/Airbag and I am really happy about it
@Matjes81
@Matjes81 5 жыл бұрын
Goldwing is the best tourer! BMW 1600 is the best sportstourer
@billdavis3152
@billdavis3152 5 жыл бұрын
Except the Goldwing has less storage. Which becomes an issue on 2 week trips.
@Texarmageddon
@Texarmageddon 5 жыл бұрын
Except nowhere on BMWs website do they even advertise it as a sports tourer... That’s why they make the 1250RS and s1000XR to fill in for sport touring needs
@eddiebenzz
@eddiebenzz 5 жыл бұрын
I got 280 miles out of my 7 gallon tank. Bmw feels extremely smooth like skating on ice ! GW rides more like a tractor & smaller fuel tank. My opinion for touring BMW ...
@Billfish57
@Billfish57 5 жыл бұрын
It's not really a sportstourer, it's just more sporty than the Gold Wing, and most bikes are. The Honda is better for going in long straight lines and the BMW is better on the corners. It's not easy to choose between them.
@frankward8003
@frankward8003 5 жыл бұрын
@@eddiebenzz I've gotten 286 miles from the 5.5 gallon fuel tank with my 6-speed 2018 Gold Wing ...the 2018 Gold Wing offers much better fuel mileage than the old model did
@ConstantinDendrinos
@ConstantinDendrinos 5 жыл бұрын
Guys you are by far my favorite! Great video, great interview and great location!
@yt7mary4
@yt7mary4 4 жыл бұрын
I've loved the honda motorcycles in Japan. I had some CB and valkyrie. But for sports touring, K1600GT is the best in the world.It's so exciting, comfortable and safe.
@jimwortham8634
@jimwortham8634 4 жыл бұрын
Honda Valkyrie wow just purchase one myself new model Wish I Had It many years ago
@inverterrace
@inverterrace 5 жыл бұрын
And the winner is...The BMW R1250RT. All the comfort and enough torque and power to enjoy a "sporty" ride. 80 kilos lighter feels like a true motorcycle not a luxo barge on steroids. Waiting for mine...
@mistery00t29
@mistery00t29 5 жыл бұрын
You are 100% right...first,the look of RT is amazing,more than enough 1250cc...for what reason they made this boat...trailer...whatever...
@denniskarnes8680
@denniskarnes8680 5 жыл бұрын
@@mistery00t29 This boat, trailer whatever can smoke the tires like a hyabusa and pull wheelies like a 400 lb sport bike, you've obviously NEVER ridden a K1600 GT, because if you had, you wouldn't have made that comment. And trust me, in case your wondering, my last ride was a 2003 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird, so I'm quite familiar with high hp and insane speed. The K1600 GT is simply put, a superbike in a fat suit.
@zoranv12
@zoranv12 5 жыл бұрын
@@denniskarnes8680 RT ets it for brakfast on alpine twistyes. Every time. You should try one for comparisson, I own them both, 80kilos really pulls you out of the corner with centrifugal force much more noticeably.
@denniskarnes8680
@denniskarnes8680 5 жыл бұрын
@@zoranv12 I don't know how you can possibly say a 1250 can "eat for breakfast" a 1649cc motor that has much more HP and torque, I don't understand how you can make this comparison. Me thinks you are referring strictly to the RT's lighter weight and ability to handle turns, that may be good for where you live but here in the states, we have miles and miles of straight highway and have no need for a bike that can handle twisties, we like top speed, comfort, and a smooth ride and the K1600 excels in these areas.
@mikec6518
@mikec6518 5 жыл бұрын
🇨🇦 Hello from a Honda F6B owner. A few other advantages of the GW might be Apple Car Play and for the general population it's slightly more affordable both to purchase and to service (with a larger dealer network for longer touring) I would think. I enjoy your review format and wish you all continued success.
@squidduck
@squidduck 5 жыл бұрын
Mike C pretty sure they’re in Europe, meaning BMW’s dealership network should be just as good as Honda’s. For North America, you’re probably right...
@cyclistman6358
@cyclistman6358 5 жыл бұрын
Two “Wild & Crazy” motorcycle guys. Interesting review but wasn’t really complete without having a test with passengers as well. Truth is you can’t go wrong with either one of these great bikes, if you can afford the very high cost! My gorgeous and affordable 2014 Yamaha FJR 1300 will do fine for now, thank you very much.
@zzanatos2001
@zzanatos2001 5 жыл бұрын
I have 2011 FJR 1300, and I love it - but I want the new one because of the 6-speed, the electronic cruise control, and the lower seat height.
@jcarabillo46
@jcarabillo46 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Martin and Dan Aykroyd...my first thought while watching this video.
@Accurize2
@Accurize2 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 2020 BMW R9T Pure and I’d pick the Goldwing. The quality of the features are just so much nicer. (Not really featured in this review, but other reviews point this out)
@VinayKumar-db4qz
@VinayKumar-db4qz 5 жыл бұрын
I think Dracula would choose the red Gold Wing.
@esmiley3
@esmiley3 4 жыл бұрын
I have been a BMW K1200LT owner since 2005. I have been waiting for GTL with the same features as my LT. Power center stand for example. That stand comes in handy.
@markjulius2006
@markjulius2006 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember the Goldwing's double wishbone front suspension being discussed. That is a big plus for comfort. I love it.
@jannickjeppesen4218
@jannickjeppesen4218 3 жыл бұрын
10 years from now, the Bmw if still around, the resell price i way lover than the gw. Dont get me started on build quality. Goldwing for me 👍🏻😉
@davidfalgout7304
@davidfalgout7304 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN !! Not to mention... find a BMW dealer.... good luck with that
@jannickjeppesen4218
@jannickjeppesen4218 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidfalgout7304 ore finding one that delivers service 😂🤘🏻
@davidfalgout7304
@davidfalgout7304 3 жыл бұрын
@@jannickjeppesen4218 talk about...i remember my favorite shop ( for over 30 yrs) a sure sign it was soon to be out of business... the tech in the back was clueless ...on every level. I walked away and was completely heart broken. So no more BMW's for me after almost 40 + years and 250,000 miles......so damn sad
@jannickjeppesen4218
@jannickjeppesen4218 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidfalgout7304 i love bmw, but there bikes, cant hold a candle to there cars. My 1200LT, a bike that I Denmark where I’m from, costs a whopping 94.000$ from new..! No im not crazy, not lying,.... that is the price we pay. Same goes for cars,.... so at that price, you do expect quality, but no... things kept breaking, heated grips, chrome fell off, small things, but newer had that on my Honda’s. The taxing isent bmws fault, but still, they’re supposed to build quality bikes
@workharddieproud
@workharddieproud 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2003 Gl1800 and still LOVE it. Even though the BMW is nice, it looks more pieced together, where as the Gold wing looks more like one piece and it all flows together.
@peterp9536
@peterp9536 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Cristian. I love your reviews🤟
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Honda, interaction between you two, scenery and beautiful buildings around the town square, hoping to visit one day! Very informative review guys, cheers!
@sgt.v7237
@sgt.v7237 5 жыл бұрын
Really good review. I've only been on a Harley Elecraglide Ultra Classic as far as a touring machine goes. I've been on BMW boxers and K bikes. I've owned a Yamaha FZR750R, as well as a Kawasaki 750 Vulcan. At 58 years old I'm ready to drop some serious $$ on my "retirement" bike. The fact that you two younger guys liked the Honda so much makes me lean heavily in that direction. A touring machine with enough finese and performance to satisfy. Your total delight with the machine confirms why it is the cult classic! Can't wait to take my turn! And yes I would love to visit Transylvania😊
@leifandersson6808
@leifandersson6808 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a 2018 BMW K 1600 GTL. The best bike I’ve had so far. Smoothness, performance, ergonomics and long term comfort. Option 719 with all options and a reverse. Also have a 2008, Road King Classic Super tuner and screaming Eagles Slip ons, for shorter day cruising
@G91YS
@G91YS 5 жыл бұрын
BEST CHANNEL EVER! sorry for the caps but it means it's truly true. Love you from Belgium!
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@vmx5111
@vmx5111 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! You two remind me of Ari and Zach from (used to be) Motorcyclist. You both have great comments and your personalities work very well together! Bravo!!!
@CamilloMorea
@CamilloMorea 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very nice reportage. In my opinion, there shouldn't be a winner. Those two big tourers with a different proposal. More comfortable driving position for the Goldwing and more sporty for the BMW K1600 GT. The GTL is more similar to the Goldwing. Why didn't you picked that up to compare? The BMW is outdated and I agree that a new make-up would more than welcome from BMW estimators. I am the lucky owner of a K1600 GTL and I use it every day in a big crowded city like São Paulo. I have not so much problems driving between the lines of the cars. The only BIG problem of the GTL is the heat that comes from the engine, in the city traffic, that makes you regret the buy when you drive it in summertime in a tropical country. The rest is pure fun! So, every one should buy the motorcycle that best fits his needs. The most important thing is that there is somebody that test them for us honestly pointing out pros and cons.
@maxpm1587
@maxpm1587 4 жыл бұрын
A BMW tem a mesma mesma confiabilidade da Goldwing..? Posso fazer uma viagem de uns 6mil km sem medo
@CamilloMorea
@CamilloMorea 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxpm1587 Oi Max, tudo bem? Não sei responder à sua pergunta primeiro por não ter tido uma Goldwing e segundo porque nunca fiz uma viagem tão longa com a 1600. Conforto, segurança e potencia a moto tem de sobra. Eu vendí a minha para comprar a GS 1250 Adventure com a qual me divirto muito mais!! Espero que curta a sua viagem! Abraços
@Lisassly
@Lisassly 7 ай бұрын
The DCT changed everything in the motor world
@garydflatt4904
@garydflatt4904 5 жыл бұрын
I'll buy a new BMW as soon as my 1985 Flying Brick is worn-out, 300,000 miles to go.
@osamabinladen824
@osamabinladen824 5 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this. I like the functionality of the Honda Gold Wing strapped to a BMW K1600.
@محمدالخلفي-ط1ل
@محمدالخلفي-ط1ل 4 жыл бұрын
Ben go
@alexgrigoreas4825
@alexgrigoreas4825 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, Sure miss this guy. Always a pleasure to watch.
@csxhogger1
@csxhogger1 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I Love my GL1832! Best MC I've owned thus far! Thanks, Maw Honda!
@egalitarianvegan8806
@egalitarianvegan8806 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how they never talk about the maintenance costs. The BMW over a hundred K would cost way more in service fees.
@Visionery1
@Visionery1 5 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Renner , BMW riders don't worry about service fees, status is of more importance ... if they did they'd buy a Gold Wing. :)
@yourdogmabites9477
@yourdogmabites9477 5 жыл бұрын
@@Visionery1 Spare me! I drove Honda's all my life, including the last 20 years on a GL1500, and went with a K1600 GTL last summer after test riding that and the new Goldwing. The Beemer is (IMHO) faster, better handling, almost as long-distance comfortable and much more fun to ride.
@keemez
@keemez 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourdogmabites9477 The point was: the cost to maintain that 1600 is going to be far higher than the GW would. The Kraut is definitely a more "capable" machine from a performance standpoint. That's not the point.
@lonestartexasrider
@lonestartexasrider 4 жыл бұрын
There's a bike for everyone out there. In the big sports touring class, these are the two big dogs no doubt about that. IMO even with the refinements on the newer Honda Goldwing DCT which I love I still feel that the BMW rides more like a motorcycle rather than a large luxurious scooter again IMHO. Either way one may appeal to one and one to another. You can go wrong with either one of these bikes. I picked the BMW which suites my riding style and am happy with my decision. Good review and the last part with y'all sitting and comparing like 2 old men bickering made me LOL Great Job !!!
@aliceaga77
@aliceaga77 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Yes we all know Honda makes great bikes but the BMW K1600GT is the King of the Road. Overall it beats the Wing but mainly on the sport touring side of things. Thank you guys, say hi to Dracula.
@fleuger99
@fleuger99 5 жыл бұрын
I'd go BMW between these two. Great long distance and more sporty. Also love the sound of the BMW 6 cylinder engine.
@nickheinz3737
@nickheinz3737 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video gentlemen. If I had to pick, the BMW would be the one for me.
@jymebale5545
@jymebale5545 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1200rt 09 a year ago with a lot of miles on it and it ran fantastically. I've been working on cars and motorcycles since the early 70's and know what I'm doing so I decided to check the mechanicals out, mainly just adjust the valves, they were so far out that I didn't know how the bike was able to run, I changed that so the idle came way down and the plugs were gapped horribly and not all the way in, some one worked on this BMW that did not know what they were doing, it runs fantastic now. I've also ridden a Goldwing 1800 and they are wonderful, I'd take either, very quiet, but I do love Harley's and would like to find an older one with a carb to chop, I've chopped a lot of them years back. Great vid.
@darkdestroyer6634
@darkdestroyer6634 5 жыл бұрын
I was quite excited about the news of the new Wing but when it finally appeared and was heavier and slower than the K16 and with less luggage capacity and fuel capacity that ruled it out for me. I'd been hoping that the new Honda would beat the old BMW but sadly not. My K16GT is a daily ride and with panniers off and a bag on the rack it's not bad at cutting through traffic on the daily commute.
@justinneill5003
@justinneill5003 2 жыл бұрын
The Gold Wing is only marginally slower than the BMW GTL version, officially 0.2 sec 0-60, 8mph on top speed. But it’s really not for congested urban roads, strictly distance touring. Unless the extra tech is important, my Kawasaki Z1000SX does both jobs at half the price, has all t essentials, is considerably faster than either of them, and on my last run it returned 55mpg.
@scannan
@scannan 4 жыл бұрын
Two great machines and two great presenters. I've been to that wonderful country and to magnificent Sighisoara (unfortunately on a bus). I'd love to revisit on my K1600GTL. The roads in Transylvania are perfect for motorcycling and look incredible in the Autumn/Fall when the colours are at their best. Greetings from Dublin.
@okeyezeilo6187
@okeyezeilo6187 5 жыл бұрын
The Beemer for me...!
@freeamerican6784
@freeamerican6784 5 жыл бұрын
I still own and ride my flawless 2000 BMW R1100RT with just over 16000 original miles on it. it's still a great bike. If I had a choice to upgrade to a newer bike...... well, Mines paid for, and, I didn't have to take out a loan to buy it. Having said that, those two expensive bikes look amazing. They each would be a pleasure to own and ride.
@zoranv12
@zoranv12 5 жыл бұрын
You should have put at least one zero more than 16000 :) What's wrong?
@edzaslow
@edzaslow 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the BMW R1250RT---only a twin, but much lighter than the K Bike.
@محمدالخلفي-ط1ل
@محمدالخلفي-ط1ل 4 жыл бұрын
K1600 gold 1250 silver
@EasyGravy420
@EasyGravy420 3 жыл бұрын
i love their accents but it's sometime hard to tell when they are being serious or sarcastic with each other. love the content
@mowler8042
@mowler8042 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video and speaking English is a bonus and appreciated. I own a BMW R9T and it's a bit more maintenance than I'm used to and like to do my oil changes and maintenance so I look for all the best attributes
@kimhorton6109
@kimhorton6109 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine it has to be one or the other. There is room in the bike world for all examples of a great tourer. I’ve admired the GT since I saw the first one. Back then I had a K75RT and it seemed very sporty. Now I have a 2015 Goldwing and my likes have changed after having two ST1300s. Sport touring bikes have great storage but they are noisy. The GW is much more quiet and easier on my head. Maybe I am getting old. At 73 a tall seat is a real challenge.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using english in your reviews; I enjoy very much. Your, both of you, mastery of english is impressive.
@akepettersson4847
@akepettersson4847 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t the GTL be the better comparison to the GW ? I’m thinking of the riding position.
@scoutandscooter
@scoutandscooter 5 жыл бұрын
These bikes are so good, I'll take one of each. That said, I'd probably be on the BMW more often.
@dennism1919
@dennism1919 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, gentlemen! Quality camera work and amazing scenery as well. I have to admit that I was a bit surprised by the outcome. I thought for sure the BMW would be declared the winner. The Honda must have really impressed! If my Vision ever quits I would certainly consider both of these bikes as it's possible replacement.
@trevorryckoort9894
@trevorryckoort9894 5 жыл бұрын
One is comparing two different bikes, Luxury Goldwing with the less luxury BMW. One should compare the goldwing with the BMW 1600 GLT
@fishingotheradventuresonke7996
@fishingotheradventuresonke7996 2 жыл бұрын
Just found this review and really enjoyed it guys, thank you. I am picking up my 22 Goldwing Tour DCT in a couple of weeks. I know this review is a few years old and I think Honda have now improved slow speed throttle response (DCT) with better calibration. Thanks again for a great review. 😊👍
@jamesalbinson7416
@jamesalbinson7416 5 жыл бұрын
Really nice video - great chat, beautiful countryside, big bikes!
@bike01red
@bike01red 4 жыл бұрын
Compare maintenance costs for the first 50,000 miles, I am sure you will find the Goldwing is considerably less.....
@Billfish57
@Billfish57 5 жыл бұрын
Good job guys, you both have strong accents but I hung in there because you both talk very knowledgeable about these two bikes and hit on so many important things that a buyer needs to know. I may end up with one of these some day soon and you two helped me a lot. I am leaning to the Gold Wing mainly because of reliability over the BMW. I hear way too many bad stories about BMW breaking down, I don't care if it's under warrantee when I'm 300 miles from the nearest town and 600 from the nearest BMW dealer. Break downs are a deal breaker for me. I know my Honda's and Yamaha's just don't break down, bullet proof reliability is the most important thing for me, over price or style or anything else. I may end up wit either a Gold Wing to the Yamaha FJR 1300.
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, Bill - we're glad if these videos are useful and relevant for those who are looking for more information. Hope you'll get the right bike for you.
@rramirrezz
@rramirrezz 5 жыл бұрын
very impressive review guys. phantastic cameraviews and almost replicable rider impressions. thanks a lot!
@ironhorsegladiator5034
@ironhorsegladiator5034 5 жыл бұрын
You two guys are always a pleasure to watch on KZbin, simply the BEST. Thank you from us all motorcycle riders.
@bobnicholson9821
@bobnicholson9821 5 жыл бұрын
A great video guys. Good camera work and informative on specs. Didn't hear price comparisons. I had a Gold Wing from 2012 to 2016 then bought a BMW 1200 RT LE with lots of extras.
@hadikhan9922
@hadikhan9922 5 жыл бұрын
Both are really good bikes, you cannot go wrong either ways, it really depends what you want from the bike, the GoldWing has a great clutchless riding experience. I have ridden both bike's & if I had the money i'd buy both
@hussienabukhalil2012
@hussienabukhalil2012 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely will choose the Golden Wings. Beautiful shape. Excellency. More streamlined. not emit heat from the engine As BMW. More practical. Spare parts are available and much cheaper than bmw. resales value is retained. But BMW loses a lot. Regular maintenance prices at BMW are very very very high. so the winer is GOLD WINGS
@advrider56
@advrider56 5 жыл бұрын
Accept the Gold Wing is an old man's bike.
@steveross2280
@steveross2280 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you film this ride? I am on the fence with these two, rented the K1600 for an event don't need that much power am more used to the boxer engine. I bought the 1800 Gold Wing over the BMW when it was first released but would like to try out the new one with DCT. Just got a Vespa 300 GTS for beach rides and I love the "twist and go" smoothness without shifter, very stress-free and relaxing ride. Thx for great review
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's in Romania
@trevorryckoort9894
@trevorryckoort9894 5 жыл бұрын
To compare one should compare the Goldwing with the BMW GLT and not the GT which is less luxury
@Gixxer-1100
@Gixxer-1100 4 жыл бұрын
I think you took the wrong bmw, in this comparison there should be a GTL which is synonymous with comfortable driving, the seats on the GT and GTL are completely different as well as the steering wheel which is in a different position so reminiscent of driving a golden wing, the bmw lacks navigation that would u completed the overall impression of the main board, and let's not forget the BMW has been on the market for 10 years with minor changes, .... both engines are great but the price of the Honda is much higher ....
@bruceyung70
@bruceyung70 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Goldwing from a co-worker with 103,759 miles on it. He logged in all of miles within 7 years. I been logging in over thousand miles per month with 130,100 miles on it now! I’ll swear to ya...this bike never had a single mechanical issues and runs like a hot butter sliding down on a burnt toast! When not riding it...it purrs like a kitten which you can’t say that about many bikes out there. My next bike will be a DCT GW because my hand is getting painful at times shifting in city streets. Damn arthritis! Anyhow, that’s my two cents of my experience thus far! I love BMW to!
@Boxer1250RT
@Boxer1250RT 5 жыл бұрын
2 Amazing Bikes and 1 Amazing Country - Now I need to take my K 1600 B out and do the same :) Great Video!
@novemberrainist
@novemberrainist 5 жыл бұрын
I take the Gold wing
@ladypilliwick8179
@ladypilliwick8179 5 жыл бұрын
BMW k1600 has an electric sidecar sport type that is amazing
@grenphelps7455
@grenphelps7455 5 жыл бұрын
Ur wrong.... the best bike is the K16GT....as u can ride it in the city with no issues...u like the goldwing...a touring bike has to be able to do anything.....bumpy roads and smooth roads it doesn't matter....
@Rayk76
@Rayk76 5 жыл бұрын
Ur wrong the 1250 GSA is the best on bumby or smooth roads, best all-rounder too
@zoranv12
@zoranv12 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rayk76 1250, not 1260 :) :) :) But yes, it is; Second best is the RT.
@Rayk76
@Rayk76 5 жыл бұрын
@@zoranv12 1260 was a typo now corrected 👍
@grenphelps7455
@grenphelps7455 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rayk76 I've got a GS Rallye and yes it's a awesome bike, this video isn't about the GS, it's about the K1600GT and the goldwing and my answer still stands...
@Visionery1
@Visionery1 6 ай бұрын
The Gold Wing is a far nicer looking bike.
@ForgotToMentionThat
@ForgotToMentionThat 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed you presentation of these two bikes. Thanks for the good job guys.
@jcpatrick4824
@jcpatrick4824 5 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you really enjoyed all the perspectives not to mention the riding views -- really fantastic video gentleman "thank you" for your service!!!
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Hope you subscribed to our channel. We'll be back with more videos.
@tjzulu1
@tjzulu1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys!! Loved it!! My second time watching...
@RideAndGrind
@RideAndGrind 5 жыл бұрын
Hello person scrolling down the comments have a nice day
@gorash88
@gorash88 5 жыл бұрын
Hello!
@osamabinladen824
@osamabinladen824 5 жыл бұрын
FBI hands up!
@wadejensen3301
@wadejensen3301 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@mw9984
@mw9984 4 жыл бұрын
The design of the Honda is not to top. Certainly not by the BMW. Floating lines the give the Honda presence, yet don’t make it look like the elephant it is. Technically, opinions may be split. Both are at the top of their peers.
@williamdavidson4576
@williamdavidson4576 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video guys. I've seriously been considering the Beemer, and glad I watched your review. Time to look at the Goldwing.
@yosam5184
@yosam5184 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video guys, dig the colors of that Goldwing.
@glennsjobom4370
@glennsjobom4370 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are awsome as always, pleasure to following your tests. You are the best!
@cruzjando
@cruzjando 5 жыл бұрын
I like this one better. This one is ok. But this one is better.
@LamontCranston
@LamontCranston 5 жыл бұрын
What about that one?
@mccgunter
@mccgunter 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your points of view and your explanations of those views. Nice job.
@goldwingrider7372
@goldwingrider7372 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't cost play a part in deciding which bike is best? Here in the UK the GW Tour is about £6k or over 25% more expensive than the K. I do like the GW a lot, but I think financial considerations would make me go for the K because that is also a great bike. I don't think the GW is £6k better than the K in terms of performance and equipment.
@BobBarkerIsOld
@BobBarkerIsOld 2 жыл бұрын
Honda redesigned the Gold Wing to be closer to the K1600GT in the sense that it has become much sportier. Much different from my 1500 vintage. BMW has a bigger tank, much more storage (this generation of Gold Wing storage is laughable), and that headlight is excellent, very modern but not high tech. Having extensively ridden both, I pick the Gold Wing (mine is outside now). Lower center of gravity helps. The BMW is too tall. Two things that never make it into reviews: the passenger seat on the K1600GT-L is comically tall. The passenger looks like they’re riding Jeepers Creepers-style on the trunk rack. Also, the BMW requires premium fuel. While the tank is bigger, I have found my Gold Wing is 40 MPG+ even in the heavy traffic, and I save by putting in 86 octane or higher. While the premium isn’t necessarily required on every vehicle that suggests it, BMW Motorrad is specific. You also lose your ass on maintenance. And the stupid scroll wheel they brought in the 7 series sedans is moronic. I can tap a button for the heated grips and seat, passenger seat is a dial, on the Wing. The DCT you just learn in time. Once you figure out how to make it work, it is perfectly manageable in traffic, which I think then guys mentioned. I daily mine, and it irritates me when people assume they can’t ride it in the city. I also have a 1988 model, which weighs about 1,000 pounds. This Wing is substantially lighter. Also, I got my first Wing in my twenties. I’m not old my any means (thirties), yet I have one. Some of like sitting on a couch with 120 BHP while young idiots ride 400cc crotch rockets. They’re not even in the same class. Last time someone wanted to race, I said “Okay, let’s go here to San Diego and back.” Kid totally changed his mind. Great video though! I love seeing this part of the world, and the cobblestone street at the end.
@craigosborne5206
@craigosborne5206 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are always entertaining, with also giving an in depth review. Cheers too you...
@blackmamba3427
@blackmamba3427 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👌
@CoreyBrass
@CoreyBrass 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's clear the Goldwing clearly has the USA in mind whereas the K1600 has Europe in mind. The city issues you mentioned don't excist here in the states.
@osamabinladen824
@osamabinladen824 5 жыл бұрын
Tell that to K1600 Grand America.
@paradoxiCk
@paradoxiCk 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video!! Apart from the bikes i also dig that light gray jacket!! Would you mind telling me what brand it is? It would be great if you guys left info about gear you use bcs its always great looking and i suppose you wear something functional and quality made given your experience. Cheers!
@itsnatedude
@itsnatedude 5 жыл бұрын
paradoxiCk Same question!
@paradoxiCk
@paradoxiCk 5 жыл бұрын
@@itsnatedude i think i found it! Its revit ridge gtx
@joanparry9060
@joanparry9060 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched the video. It was entertaining up to the crowning of the final winner. So let me get this straight. They basically said the Gold Wing was a comfortable rolling couch on the open highway, but lagged behind the BMW in almost everything else. Yet it's the winner?? Strange.....
@flevy1
@flevy1 4 жыл бұрын
Don't think so
@johnroe3915
@johnroe3915 4 жыл бұрын
The Goldwing is more practical, reliable and cost effective to maintain, why would it not be the winner?
@timsretirementjourney8323
@timsretirementjourney8323 4 жыл бұрын
Good review. For my personal preference, I like sport touring bikes and though they're both huge bikes I'd have to take the BMW.
@sasquatch8571
@sasquatch8571 5 жыл бұрын
I have the gold wing , if you put bike into rain or economy mode it does much better in city traffic , it is not so Jerky
@johnmangiameli
@johnmangiameli 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Sumner that’s right
@bartheremans9074
@bartheremans9074 3 жыл бұрын
About the comment on driving in the city with a DCT. My current bike en previous bike both have DCT and you need to learn how to manage not having a clutch. It's simple if you got a hang of it. Use the rear break more often. If you would have a rearbreak lever where you have a clutchlever it would be perfect.
@kevinfarrell5778
@kevinfarrell5778 4 жыл бұрын
They're both cracking bikes.. bmw and Honda are quality machines...but since I was a teenager I've always wanted to own a goldwing ...and this new one is just stunning..but like most people way beyond my wallet ..have to keep looking for a gl 1500 great vlog chaps...👍👍🍺🍺
@TheTripleDubya
@TheTripleDubya 5 жыл бұрын
Great bikes and review, excellent filming and such beautiful countryside, amazing.
@bobklee2397
@bobklee2397 5 жыл бұрын
Good sandwiches - integral part of road trip 😄. Great reports, lovely scenery and fair reviews. Good quality filming too. Very entertaining, I don’t actually want either of these bikes at the moment. If and when I do I think your country would be a good destination to tour from UK 🇬🇧
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