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[@jamesjenkins232]

I own a Harley! Will always Love Harley! I like the Indian and am amazed at how great they ride, but once a Harley owner always a Harley owner. They improve every year. Good composition!

[@Topnikko]

It's amazing that in the short time Indian has been around they've managed to make bikes that in many ways are better than HD.

[@MoneyMakerRealty]

I ride a street glide. Actually just bought it and this bike has nothing to envy on my Harley. Great looking bike and color. Harley/Indian doesnt matter all I wanna do is ride

[@santivargas7338]

Ogfbdbdk JD Melcochita. Hotel

[@Motochick203]

Well said

[@shabadabadoo4326]

I really like the new fairing. The older ones looked like a freight train nose sticking out being so rounded and ornate. That one looks a lot more like the victory cross country, which I liked a lot.

[@danshobbies13]

That is what it was modeled after. The freight trains of the 50s. Its funny you said that.

[@matthewdavis8199]

I agree with you. The "Classic" fairing was inspired by Art Deco locomotives from the late 1930's. The newer fairing design is a muscled up version of the Cross Country. The newer front fender and wheel designs also are reminiscent of Victory Cross Country's.

[@ltunedkc]

I've seen a lot of negative comments about the new Indian's but I really like them. Thanks for the informative review! My local dealer is having an open house later this month so I'm going to go try them out.

[@richardcasey7521]

I like it too. It’s a slightly mire modern looking bike. And NO primary chain.

[@AnonymousBosch3158]

Man.... this colour is amazing. I loved this bike... really.

[@mikey2145]

I really enjoy your videos. You have a very nice delivery with a humble attitude. Your enthusiasm is encouraging.

[@richardsmith5738]

Somebody is riding the one I'm going to buy in a couple years.....so take care of it. Also, great video.

[@Gooddog1]

Low milage, custom upgrades private party depreciation, and all that good stuff.

[@thelazydire]

Why don't you buy a new one?

[@gsb1616]

I bought a 2017 Indian Heritage Classic last Halloween. It was one of those they would let go about $2000 different than the new 18's coming in. It came with a full windshield that blocks most of the wind and bugs. I had the dealership put on a chrome backrest and luggage rack. Haven't been able to get it out because of the 8" snow last Thursday. It's blue with a cream paint on it. Everyone looks at it and complaints it. The suspension is great just glides down the rode. I like the backrest and luggage wreck for my girlfriend to hang on. I had a Yahama cruiser with the larger engine, I had it for 7 years until I seen these one of these. The bike has a great response with the throttle and breaking. Just a wonderful ride down the highway. I can't afford the ones with the large display, but this is something I could afford. See ya down the road, Gary

[@jeffshelburne5727]

Great review! Indian will make Harley better, Vice a versa. Good old fashion American made competition, and the customer wins, hopefully in the end.

[@gerrysturis]

Thank you for this video Shawn! I am considering upgrading my Springfield Dark Horse to a Chieftain. I had been looking at the Chieftain Classic. This bike has made me rethink the whole project. Thanks for all you do for the riding community................Cheers!

[@HARMARSCH2]

Shawn, that’s a beautiful Motorcycle. 😃 Thank You for taking us on the ride.

[@stevefjordan]

What a machine! Love the color and contrast. She's like a steel horse.

[@TJRohyans]

A ride review from someone I trust, who knows what he's talking about! I'm very happy with my Yamaha Eluder, but that Indian is a very, very nice bike. In fact, I see a lot of similarities to my Yammy. I think people who complain the most about rear cylinder heat, aren't people who typically ride a big V-twin. It just comes with the territory. Funny, one complaint I hear a lot from Yammy owners of the Venture/Eluder is the LACK of the heal shifter as a stock item. I'm fine without it. With it, you lose most of your long floor boards. Peace and love.

[@albertosbrolla8424]

I like it!! Yes they did have self canceling in previous years, as does my 2017 Springfield. Shawn, you should get one!👍

[@worldview2888]

This ONE video instantly makes me a fan of such bikes. i have never had a single clue what sort of bikes are these. i dont know, this is beautiful. wonderful video about the bike. amazing

[@luvmybeemer]

Shawn, I LOVE your enthusiasm for reviewing bikes! Your voice is so calming and relaxing. I own a 2017 Indian Chieftain and I traded in a 2014 Moto Guzzi California Touring for. I like the thought process for the 2019 Chieftains, but it looks to much like a street glide to me. Would I trade in my 2017 for a new riding mode enabled bike? Quite possibly, YES. Did you find out if the new bikes have traction control? My Guzzi had both and believe me, it’s missed. Keep up the great work.

[@danielj.rodriguez1183]

Beautiful bike, I see Victory motorcycle print on these, don't see a Streetglide. Maybe I need to look harder. Nope def Victory. Welcome back Vic😀

[@alexanderbaum9677]

I thought the exact same thing. I always wanted a Victory, so now I guess I'll get one of these!

[@LuziannMan]

Totally got a victory vibe upon first glance. I am not mad about that lol.

[@Mingo-lo4pl]

What model victory looks like this??..... I see street glide... I ride a scout and a vintage and this bike would sure make a nice 3rd bike.😀

[@danielj.rodriguez1183]

@@Mingo-lo4plwhat model Victory, let's narrow it down, Cross Country. You must have been on a Harley too long so that's what you want to see. I owned Victory before and anyone that knows a Victory fingure print can tell you these bikes have way stronger similarities. Which only makes sense since Polaris owned Victory. Why bite off the competition when Victory were good looking bikes. Polaris is ressurecting and old brand in part.

[@thesetwowheels9401]

Love me the Indian Line. Gorgeous bikes. Beautiful day to ride in "The Couv". I miss it back home sometimes. Traffic isn't as bad there as it is here. Ride Safe People !!

[@dawgswonjj]

I'm a Harley guy but, here's the deal they are both great products but there is a difference between the two. When I walked Into my local BMW, Honda, Kawasaki, Can Am, Sea doo, Polaris, Sling Shot, Kymco and Indian dealer, I was greeted the 19 year old motor cross dude. He was a great guy don't get me wrong. Its just different. As I walked through the sea of Motorcycles, Jetski's, side by side's Quad's and snowmobiles, I made it to the Indian show room the first thing you notice is that almost almost every bike is designed after a Harley. The Chieftain is styled like the Street Glide, The Challenger is styled like the Road glide and Chief is a Road King design. At first look you can tell that the bike looks good. They've done a good job the colors design. As I sat on them them the bars felt awkward for me but I'm sure that's because Im not used to it. But I did notice that on a Harley everything on it is designed to be seen . HD does not use plastic covers to hide Starters, oil tanks, transmissions ect. On the Indian they just plastic covers on the bikes to hide all of those things and it tends to give it the metric bike look. Also, and most surprising is on the motor they a fake head cover over it. They have tried to make it look like a head with cooling fins but its not real, you can tap it and hear the tin like sound it makes, I don't get that. Anyway, The accessories display was really small, They had only a few jackets and shirts to chose from. Last but not least when I asked about tuning and performance I found that they don't have the equipment to do any real tuning or performance. When asked they said they could send it to a guy in Portland that has a dyno.???? Its different, like I said I'm a Harley Guy but when go a Harley Store its a Harley store. Everything you need is there. Bikes, support, Gear, knowledgeable people. The bikes are about $1000 apart as an average. Ill pay that to make sure I get everything I need and the store doesn't have 10 other motorcycle franchises in it. Just my opinion.

[@grayboo212]

Don't you hate people who whine about motorcycles? I never cared for the "Yugo" from back in the eighties. So... I don't spend my time watching Yugo videos and whining about them.

[@ShawnSmoak]

Perfect!! Thanks!

[@roadrash76]

grayboo212 what a novel idea

[@wes9389]

Where can I find the Yugo videos?

[@navinbabji]

I bought my Indian chief vintage last month, never been happier. Also i bought it for that beautiful valance fender...👍👍👍

[@tomekkopanczyk8206]

Hey Shawn, Thanks for introducing this marvellous piece of steel If by an accident you would have 1 spare, I have 43rd birthday soon ;) Regards

[@lucasnelson1739]

I’m a Harley guy, but Indian did a great job on that seat. Looks just like saddle man step up, which many people are going to and have been for the last couple years

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

The mode setting changes the ratio between the throttle sensor and throttle body. So in sport mode for example it might open the throttle 15% when you open it 10%. At least thats what they do in a car, along with auto trans changes.

[@rodgp]

There was a clear difference between modes.. Easy to see he got from 47 to 52mph quicker in sport mode. :). But I really dig the look

[@slyguyaction]

Love the heel shift Shawn!

[@slyguyaction]

Thanks SO much for sharing this with us Shawn. WOW!!!

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

The new bike looks awesome, finally stopped some of the hokey pokey things they had on the previous model. The dash display system is interesting, need to check one out in person.

[@easyrider4x]

Lots of design and engineering from the orphaned Victory Cross Country and Magnum line is showing up on this bike. We knew it would happen. Wait till they make a frame mounted fairing model a la Victory Vision. I gave them that idea a year ago.

[@WRXXXual]

The 2019 refresh models are better than the Chieftain classic models. They ride better, handle better, and the seat is better for long distance riding. Also the right bag has a 12VDC cigarette outlet next to the lock mechanisim.

[@dnewman3402]

I recently got the chance to test ride an Indian Chieftain that was the same color of this one in the video, but I had the cams, performance chip, stage on mufflers, larger air filter , and the 116 engine in it. I asked the demo truck guy to put it in ' sport mode ' before he got on a 2019 Indian Roadmaster in the lead in front of me. Grabbing a handful of throttle and winding 1-4 gears out to 3,500-3,800 rpm's made the stage one mufflers put out a really DEEP and throaty rumble. Throttle response was very snappy in ' sport mode'. I really like look of the new style seat on the 2019, Chieftain that lets you sit lower and farther from the dash.

[@andrewabell8617]

That new Indian Chieftain Dark Horse ....sweeeet sounding (and looking) machine, built to be ridden all day long.

[@gustwowheeling7337]

I lean towards the vintage look of the Indian motorcycle, but I can appreciate this refresh look. I hope Indian will let the consumer still have a choice of a vintage and a modern style looking motorcycle. I like the different ride modes, the size of the screen reminds me of a small television, that I had in my room when I was a little kid...lol. Excellent 1st ride and impression video, Smoak. That is one nice Indian motorcycle, um...um...um.

[@wes9389]

The previous "butt ugly" fairing kept me from interest in the big Indians, however, now I am in love. They have opened three stores north of Atlanta, so next week we take a road trip.

[@kylemoore9626]

John Wesley you could just buy a street glide, it looks better, costs the same, and it won’t lose half it’s value after 24 months.

[@wes9389]

I have spent many hours looking at Harleys. Love the look and the Heritage fits me like my goat skin gloves. However, my observations of sick, expensive issues with H D prevent me buying one. Have had BMW, Guzzi, Triumph, Kawasaki, Hondas and never worried about maint. cost.

[@kylemoore9626]

John Wesley 🙄 they were rated the 4th or 5th most reliable brand by JD power a couple years ago. Only the Japanese companies beat them. It’s a lot easier to hear about problems when they sell 200,000 units a year vs Indians 10,000. All motorcycles models have some problems, Harleys are reliable what you’ve heard is a myth. Indians have electrical problems, they even quit selling their stage 3 kits last summer because they were blowing up, now they’re having to change out connecting rods to do a stage 3 build. There’s Milwaukee 8s out there making 150+ horsepower on the stock rods and crank still. Just sayin. Not saying Harley is perfect but it’s a myth that they aren’t reliable.

[@coaytch]

That’s a matter of opinion. I rode Harley’s for 28 yrs. On my second Indian, now. Will never look back.

[@geoffozevans4500]

I stand corrected , I re watched the vlog & saw the analogue rev countet, it was the way the light was reflecting on the glass doh!!!!!!👍👍😎

[@davidknows3320]

All your torque shows up at 2500. It's a great place to happen on a touring bike.

[@GopherChoker.]

👍👍 Love the color combination.

[@joshrandall5297]

Looks more like a Harley every day. That's a good thing. I like the ride modes and electric bag locks. Harley needs to catch up on that. Keep it up Indian. Competition is a good thing.

[@BB-gt1eg]

hmmm...yeah. Looks like a Harley, so it looks like every other boring thing out there **Yawn** There's a reason even HD is trying to get away from looking like HD. I agree these Indian's do have a lot of options that make them a hands down winner, and these 19's have some great options over HD, so why try to style like an HD? Seems they should keep offering their own style.

[@todkapuz]

yeah i hate that the CVOs are the only harleys with the electric bag locks....

[@mikekosar6135]

Just don't like that it still comes incomplete.. passenger grab on.. Lower wind management.. Saddle bag guard's, to start.... Too incomplete for too much $$

[@richardbarr3153]

This Indian may be the first pne l saw that l actually liked. Way nice looking bike.

[@michaelschmitzerle2587]

Love those Indians! They just get better and better!

[@anselmofernandes4255]

The most beautiful thing on the motorcycle was taken off: the auxiliary headlights built into the front cowl. I think the polaris wants a design similar to that of the Harley Davidson street glide and this decharacterizes the Indian. It does not work for me.

[@Logan-or5qw]

Wherever there's smoak there's fire, right Shawn! Fire it up! LOL.

[@edwarddavis8264]

You can thank abate, for helping with pass a new ordinance for motorcycles at stop lights in Washington State. If the light doesn't change you can proceed after you have stopped and not worry about getting the running a red light ticket.

[@dennism103]

I'm very pleased with my 2018 road king, its very dependable so far about 7,000. Miles so far, no issues whatsoever. The m8 is a homerun!

[@thelazydire]

Welp it's a road king 😅 7k miles ain't got nothing on it

[@knarfggor]

Looks like they are blending the Victory and Indian designs together! Beautiful!!!!!!

[@youngyarnzy777]

A magic bit of machinery

[@veronicianyveronica5290]

Cool review, I really love your bike!👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍

[@MrNomads]

Perfect....except the front fender. Is there an option for the old front fender?

[@antoniodossantos6735]

Even sounds like a Victory ! 🤔

[@moustachemike7128]

I'd like to see it with the 116 stage 3 on /// taller bars/// 2up back rest that would be cool...

[@specialed5098]

The lights and turn signals in the older fairing look much nicer. You don't have to add additional lights to make it look like an after market piece.

[@SmoothbassmanStudios]

Yep!!! Rode one at a demo ride today. I'm sold now. I will be picking one up next Spring. All black!!

[@coyotewayne1]

Looks like a street glide to me with a touch of Victory

[@snakebite6511]

I am really tossed between the 2019 Indian Chieftain Limited and the 2019 H-D Street Glide Special, i love the look of the new Indian and love the new features. I am buying in January, but honestly, i don't know which way i'm going yet, i love the SGS in scorched orange, but now i love the look an features of the new Chieftain.

[@chasstiles7611]

Harley is assembled in America, Indian is made in America Maybe that will help

[@gtsteele6219]

I felt the same way last year. Rode 'em both. The Indian's adjustable windshield, awesome suspension, easy clutch engagement and great seat sold me.

[@CactusJack252]

Get the Indian

[@snakebite6511]

Currently i have several Indian's now, 1948 Indian Chief, 2003 Indian Chief, 2010 Indian Chief Bomber and 2014 Indian Chief Vintage. So i am certainly leaning towards the Indian Chieftain.

[@calderon551]

In 20 + years, when I'll be in my sixties, maybe I would start liking the retro style of the Indian bikes, maybe not.

[@chadolson1864]

Hey smoaks I have a 21 dark horse chieftain love it hope to come from Nebraska to see you in Oregon and ride with you

[@zthang]

Love how Indian puts a leather bib on the gas tank so the seat doesn't rub the paint off. Harley? I guess they haven't figured that one out yet. Pay $40k for a bike and the seat sets right on the paint of the tank. Genius!

[@DFox-ud3gx]

I love that seat WOW plus the bike is Sharp👍🏼🇺🇸turn around.the color is money

[@IBDaddyO]

Hey, I like heel shifters. 😛

[@WoodyFletcher]

When you're caught at a stop light sometimes it helps to kill the bile and crank it. Something about the electrical field.

[@johnspencer8038]

Shawn, I rode for more than 50 years. I WANTED an Indian. I crashed my StreetBob, breaking my hip. This was accident #6. I didn't want to tempt#7. I quit riding. The next time you have trouble with a light, look for the circle in the pavement that covers the "wire" for the light. Put your "Side-Stand" on it. Those sensors are made to "sense" cars. M/Cs don't exist to the traffic people. John Spencer Long Beach, Ca

[@geoffozevans4500]

Nice machine, personally I quite like the heel toe shifter, & I would like to see an analogue rev countet on the Indian, otherwise it's a mighty beast 👍👍

[@OoavastoO]

Pretty sure the gauge to the right of the infotainment screen is a rev counter. The LCD screen inside the gauge I think is your gear position indicator and air temperature read out, I could be wrong though.

[@sonboogie]

That thing is gorgeous. They just keep getting better and better. Thanks for vid.

[@ohiovalleyrider8623]

That's a beauty. I like the new look. It seems to have a bit of a Victory look to me. If you take a road trip and get to pick a demo, one of these or a new Goldwing DCT would be my choices. Would be awesome to see an extended use review on both.

[@andrewedmond8359]

Love the new look of the Indian. A little Victory DNA in the fairing? Always room in the carport for one of these! Just have to convince the wife that it's a good thing.

[@OutbackOutlaw]

I’ve watched a few of your vids. I subscribed today. I have the 2017 chief dark horse.

[@OutbackOutlaw]

Darkhorse self cancels indicators

[@petertrapani8701]

Shawn that wheel is looking good. Very SGS love it. Need to take a demo ride on this Indian. Great Vlog. Be Cool and Ride Safe. 🇺🇸🏍

[@cjkirk30s]

She's a beaut! thanks for the video!

[@eastexxxan]

Best looking Indian bagger to date

[@marklebbon7968]

Vicdian ….nice bike , here in the UK theres not many Indian dealers but quite a few Harley dealers . I'm on my 11th Harley I had a Victory once and had paint issues in under 2 years and went back to Harley. This Indian may just sway me back its very nice just waiting to see the Raptor when its launched

[@yosam5184]

Cool new features, I like the fender, mode change, and electric windshield. I am addicted to electric windshields now that I own a Vision, HOWEVER that dashboard is just too danged big or something! Thanks for your review.

[@whitebeltforlife5271]

Ok .... this bike makes me consider buying an Indian This bike is Awesome !

[@dennism103]

I'm sure Indian bikes are pretty good, Polaris is a serious contender no question about it...

[@ohdirtracer]

Like many others, I definitely like the new look!

[@mosgor]

I think the new Chieftain this is a wonderful great motorcycle, which deserves to be talked about. This new one is amazing, looks Amazing, and gives you a choice over the classic Chieftain, which everyone can still buy, and continue to buy in the foreseeable future. This new one, has, along with some of the other models of Indian Motorcycle, a more "up to date" design. You can still spot an Indian miles away in a sea of Harleys. People who can not see that, may not have a good eye for the shape of a motorcycle. Things evolve fast, and Indian motorcycle is exactly where they should be whit the Chieftain, - A little ahead of some of their customers, while holding on to their models with that classical shape at the same time. Indian does what they should do. They make great motorcycles. Well done Shawn Smoak!!!

[@ashten92]

They did a great job! One good thing about a heel toe shifter is you never ware out your boots.lol

[@shuff1111]

I came into the store today to see that Chieftain and it was gone!!!!!! Guess I'm gonna have to show up on the 29th for the demo rides!!!

[@ShawnSmoak]

Sorry about that..! This was our Indian rep's demo. We should have them in stock soon! Thanks!

[@R3N1R3N]

I want to like the Chieftain Darkhorse, but there’s a couple things holding me back, the very main reason is power and that small motor, in comparison to what you can do with the Harley Davidson platform now with the aftermarket support such as S&S and other companies, they are making very powerful and reliable motor kits for the new Milwaukee 8s that’s very desirable. As far as suspension on the Chieftain that’s great, Harley is lacking on this , but it’s much easier to deal with suspension upgrades than it is with motor. Bottom line Indian makes a more woken-up power plant that’ll put you in higher highway speeds reliably and controllably, and then I’m in. It’s the age of the Power Cruiser👍

[@renatojlopes]

Great looking bike! Indian have done a good job here...

[@danjohnston9473]

Great comparison shot near the end of the video of a 2018 in the background. I'm not against the '18 fairing, it was unique. Just a choice. Glad the war bonnet is back on the front fender.

[@redram5150]

Color is called “Three Musketeers Nougat”.

[@mileslrd7881]

I love that new Indian bike, I need one

[@paulsullivan931]

Hey Shawn,that is one beautiful Indian,oh man I gotta win the lottery so many fantastic motorcycles.If anybody says money can’t buy happiness they just don’t know where to shop.Thanks Shawn that was fantastic.😃👍

[@Love4boost]

I told you not long ago how I own a street bob and rode the new softails and didn’t care much for them and that I preferred the road glide to them but it was too big. Well today Harley had the demo truck at my local dealer and I rode the new sgs and I’m in love! I’ve never ridden anything that I liked more than my fxdb till today. Don’t be surprised if you see me post on Facebook that I traded my bike in lol. I’d get the 2018 though I can’t afford a 2019. Also I didn’t get to ride the fxdr sadly. It was booked all day and I only got there an hour late

[@taskforceripper91]

I’ve never had one but interesting thoughts on heel toe shifter. Nice vlog thanks for the ride.

[@youcanthide004]

GORGEOUS / LOVE ALL THE CHANGES FOR 2019

[@Skunk72]

Wow, what a gorgeous machine.. I am quite impressed with what Indian has done in the past few years. I did my vlog review on a 2017 and liked it back then. They have come so far in just a couple of years. I think I am going have to find a demo day to ride one of the new ones!

[@CactusJack252]

My roadmaster use to get hot. I changed out the head pipe and that fixed the issue. I have a 2015 and it doesn't have that cylinder deactivation.

[@doronikgjcs]

Always enjoy your reviews. Thanks for posting and providing a better understanding of it. I like the more traditional look but this is kinda growing on me. I do want to see how the sport mode compares to one with a PVCX tuner on it.

[@davemay6014]

Couple things I learned from this video. Nice looking bike. Indian wants badly to be a Harley. You LOVE sport mode. :)

[@BobSmith-sl9sm]

It looks like they are getting back some of that angular Victory styling. Not a bad thing as long as they still make the classic available.

[@roadglide]

I hear you. This is a great looking bike packed with features. But man a Harley Street Glide or Road Glide Special is just so beautiful. I’m not talking about either company’s philosophies just about the bikes. Just saying and just my .02.

[@johnayres1220]

I had a 2014 Chieftain. I test road a new one with the larger front wheel without the skirts. It was a really nice ride, but my 2014 actually handled better with the standard front wheel and fatter tire. PS: I hate heel shifters also.

[@dennism103]

They're American made I honestly wish them the best. Ride and enjoy riding wave at all riders...

[@cpottzz5744]

Not my cup of tea but not bad looking .. HARLEY FOR LIFE

[@tsimmons1974ts]

I'm in love 😍😍😍😍

[@jeffross8400]

This is a good thing...Two fairing types...and now you have a choice of this style and the more traditional Indian style with the Springfield, Vintage and Chieftain Classic and the new style on the Chieftain and Chieftain Darkhorse. It is a tough decision which style I like better...

[@Aprojeep]

The new Milwaukee 8 runs waaaay cooler. My brother has a Low Rider S and the old twin cam runs hot. Indian should take note.

[@ut1004bp]

Every year since I sold my 1953 Harley Panhead, I find new reason not to select/choose a new Harley, this bike would be my latest reason. I would look seriously if I plan to replace my Stratoliner 1900s. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the different modes just change the throttle-by-wire- span linearity, but not producing a more powerful engine.

[@bobvila4381]

Holy crap those cruisers are huge!

[@jimtomstimpson1477]

you know , I didn't like the new design initially but this is the first video I have seen. It has been still photos until now. in Video , it doesn't look as bad. The sport mode might save a new buyer $1,500-$2,000 on a stage kit upgrade. Me on my 2017 RM , I feel I need a stage one or two. And the rear cylinder shut down will help combat the heat at stops. I have been real hard on Indian for the new design. Maybe I should give it time. My Vision had to grow on me too