At the start of every video you say “So if you’re interested in this bike, stick around and stay tuned.” I stay even when I’m not interested in the bike 😅 keep up the good work! Cheers from Down Under 🇦🇺
@dardobartoli4 жыл бұрын
He also says 'hello kids'....and I'm 55
@RutgerSmets4 жыл бұрын
@@dardobartoli I'd say there is no age limit on being a kid ;)
@rubberneck28554 жыл бұрын
Ha, the KZbin video I watched before this was Australian. Isn't broadband wonderful, we can all watch stuff from the other side of the planet. Light rain here in Scotland.
@PhilipKerry4 жыл бұрын
@@dardobartoli 55 ?? I'm 64 junior :)
@reecelake984 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Flyer, i bought one of these 2020 bikes a few weeks ago and have done around 3000 miles so far. The bikes great, no question, but of course will never suit everyone. I love the looks and power, its a true sports bike. The power and handling are easily capable of very enthusiastic progress where circumstances allow. I have done 450 mile days on this bike in England and in Europe and find the seat does get better with miles. One word of warning ... with a pillion on the back, the auto preload jacks the rear suspension up and the side stand gets even shorter. I don't think its perfect, but in truth, what is? You pays your money and takes your choice! Enjoy the bike. Great reviews, keep up the good work.
@warra66004 жыл бұрын
I had a test ride booked on one of these followed by a the R1250GSA, after 70mins of riding I had a numb back side and pins and needles in my hands. The GSA caused me no problems at all. If you are in the market for one of these make sure you get a long test ride to check it out. Another great review 👍👍👍👍
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes good advice.....for any bike you are considering!
@rubberneck28554 жыл бұрын
Pet hate is a bike with buzzy bars. Got a friend's bike on loan for a few days, decided not to buy.
@KiwiMoto724 жыл бұрын
I just traded my Multi 950s in on a new one. They let me take their demo out for a 400 mile weekend (I'm a good customer) So comfy. No issues. The seat takes some getting used to, but man, its ride all day magic carpet ride. I love it..
@KiwiMoto724 жыл бұрын
@@rubberneck2855 a 2020 or the old model? the old models had those issues
@redjacc75814 жыл бұрын
i actually like that intrument cluster with the separate satnav in that stacked config, makes things so easy to see when they are all in the centre line.
@ashleyreynolds66044 жыл бұрын
Overtaking when there are driveways on the right has me thinking some dope is going to come out looking right because they think they don't have to look left to turn left. Be safe TMF👍And good video as always 🙂
@snowballed44 жыл бұрын
That's sound advice, and not just for motorbikes. Back in the day (and I wasn't there at the time) a school friend overtook in just that scenario. He and his GF were in a car, overtook another car, and a lorry pulled out from the right with the driver looking right. Head-on collision, both friend and GF died at the scene. The aftermath was far-reaching, as you can imagine, and it was a harsh lesson that's been imprinted on my brain ever since. I was 18 at the time, as were they. Don't risk it. But top vid again TMF, I love the sports/adventure nature of this bike, definitely interested.
@HellRyder184 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's just good practice to not overtake in or around junctions, nor in residential areas (usually you'd have a 30mph limit there too).
@bjoernrider61644 жыл бұрын
As usual, i loved the video 👍 Just 3 weeks ago i've tested this bike. As a long term owner of Honda CB1300S, i wondered how Germans built in-line 4 engine, which is japanese speciality. Well, not to good... My 2008 Honda engine is much smoother. Vibrations were one of the main 3 reasons i finished the test ride after just 40 mins. My bottom and right hand were devastated by buzzing. The amount of power is cery descent, but power is not everything. Another thing, the seat. Really exclusive as it should be in a premium bike. BMW, to give the customer a premium feeling, made the seat of a 100yrs old oak wood. Touring on it? If 0,5 an hour is "touring", fine. More than this would be a torture. 3 thing i didn't like is the chassis. Although it is top, it does not follow the engine's performance. Good things: breaks, sound, beauty and looking expensive. It is not a great sports bike, not a touring bike becsuse of lack of comfort...I have no idea why would i buy it.
@telbenj4 жыл бұрын
I had one of the first into the country in 2015 I hated the buzz at cruising speed then and sold it after only 6 months, I can't believe BMW still haven't cured it. Apart from that I loved it but couldn't live with that annoying vibe. Nice video again Terry
@beozzie6904 жыл бұрын
Definitely blur out the TFT screen before you get in trouble from your MRS... LOL
@simonelomax74654 жыл бұрын
“We’ll stick her on the back”. Would love to see Mrs Flyers reaction to that statement :). Great review as usual, looking forward to the next one. Many thanks 🙏
@UncleWally34 жыл бұрын
A Beemerphile buddy of mine bought an XR, rode it for less than 1000 kilometers, hated it and sold it before I could even twist its throttle. Thing is, among other BMW’s, he rides a fully appointed S1000RR (his second) - which he loves. Go figure! The cautionary tale here is that the XR may be an acquired taste, even for Beemerphiles. Perhaps more of a niche bike than a nice bike?
@FiveOfDive10 ай бұрын
One cannot make a better review than this. Thank you for making a pure-quality review.
@TheMissendenFlyer10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@jgerma214 жыл бұрын
Extremely interested in more vids on this. I've got an 05 vfr, and I think this might be the practical sports bike I've been itching for!
@josephpotterf94594 жыл бұрын
love this bike but my 17 r1200gs will be my forever bike thanks for the ride
@thewoodster86074 жыл бұрын
Nah. Ninja 1000SX for me. Silky smooth and Japanese reliability. Not as much electronics but fantastic value.
@David-xg6ws4 жыл бұрын
I own the Ninja 1K and would have to agree with you. 7200 miles so far and NO issues
@wickedcoolname3994 жыл бұрын
Hard to argue with that. I ride a Triumph, but here in America I'd certainly find parts and service easier to find if I rode one of the 4 big Asian bikes. Plus, every Kawasaki I've ever owned was incredibly dependable. Having said that, my T120 has been flawless so far, but I just don't have that feeling of confidence and reliability that the Japanese bikes give.
@mickeypopa3 жыл бұрын
Here here, my next bike for sure! And by the time I save up the cash for it, hopefully a nice, little used 2020 or 2021 model will turn up for a good price.👍
@TheRtHonJimStiffOG4 жыл бұрын
So weird seeing you riding down the roads I ride on TMF, same when you did the bike Vs plane to white Waltham, I was trying to shout directions to Chopsy. Great review as always dude
@TSH20204 жыл бұрын
Got rid of my 2017 XR after two years, couldn’t stand the buzz which got worse by the mile and useless heated grips. For a 2020 updated bike at the price they now are, shame on BMW for not resolving the buzz issue. If Japanese bike manufacturers can produce a super smooth inline 4 then they get my business. Japanese bikes are easier to maintain, more reliable and cheaper to both buy and service. As an older rider, now 70, I look for different values when assessing a new bike purchase. BMW do however produce well designed comfortable bikes in some of their range and no one bike fits all riders. That’s what the free market is all about. Good review👍
@user-cx2bk6pm2f4 жыл бұрын
The buzz in the handlebars is in fact GONE. The buzz TMF mentions is something different.
@robbikebob4 жыл бұрын
Well, I've got a 29 leg and can't, in any way, get my feet down. I can tiptoe one side, but if I stopped on a slope or put my foot in a pothole (which has had me off in the past) I'd be straight on the deck. I was amazed when I first sat on the XR how high and awkward the bike was. I found the GS lower and easier, and that's saying something!
@36moto4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised to hear about the stand over prob, I’m 31(ish) inside leg and found it ok... was the seat set ok for you? Shame really, because I loved riding the bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes the GS is easy in comparison with it's low COG - one of it's best characteristics in my opinion.....very easy to live with as a result...
@robbikebob4 жыл бұрын
@@36moto I was just going from bike to bike in the showroom. I was surprised at how manageable the GS felt, as I'm quite short, but was amazed at how bad the XR was. Just getting on was akin to Bruce Lee kicking someone in the face and it just felt tall and top heavy from there on in. It is just not a bike I'd ever entertain. I can imagine someone a lot taller liking the space though.
@alancampbell10084 жыл бұрын
@@robbikebob sorry but you reminded me of my mate years ago...5ft6 tall and rode a Suzuki DR Big, very impressive seeing him dismounting on the move to stand beside it at the lights, then single leg mount as he pulled away...never won a traffic light drag but was close 😯
@36moto4 жыл бұрын
Rob BikeBob hi pal, the only thing I thought was that the seat on the xr is a bit bucket-like once your in it there’s very little opportunity to move around, the Gs has a very much slimmer profile to the front of the seat, this is something that bmw addressed with the intro of the water cooled bikes, and I agree the Gs is easier if leg length plays a part... and tbf a Gs is hard to best as an altound Swiss Army knife sort a bike... 👍
@RutgerSmets4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another video! I'm following your channel for like 4 years at the moment and I still love it! Hope you keep at it as long as possible :)
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Rutger - thanks for all your support over the years!
@iainian4 жыл бұрын
Ditto Rutger
@mickangel39454 жыл бұрын
I've test ridden this bike several times from the first gen model onwards and it amazes me that BMW still canot sort out the vibration issue.
@36moto4 жыл бұрын
Mick Angel hi Mike, I rode the new XR recently and didn’t find a vibration problem... @threesixmoto
@mickangel39454 жыл бұрын
@@36moto No bar vibes at motorway cruising speed or there are vibes which don't bother you?
@roaming-aus4 жыл бұрын
I think you’ll find when you just pull on the front brake it’s actually linked with the rear hence it works so good. That’s how my GS works
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes you may well be right......
@reecelake984 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer This is correct on the 2020 XR. Very reassuring.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, great system. Linked brakes on K1600 since 2012.
@flyingklaasman4 жыл бұрын
I had that on my 2009 Transalp. Very reassuring. I really miss it having gone to a GS without abs now 😅
@jonbom26534 жыл бұрын
Nice video again, I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this but have you checked out BMW’s Connected App? If you set that up amongst many other things it will provide turn by turn navigation to the TFT screen so you don’t need the additional Sat Nav above. Please do a review I’m sure your viewers would like it.
@richardrh36234 жыл бұрын
Another great review. Thanks. I had the mark 1 version but sold it as the suspension was too hard even though it had the electronic suspension and I had the BMW comfort seat. I've tried loads of other bikes in the meantime but none created such a buzz to ride or felt so safe to ride ie brakes and cornering. Bearing in mind you have a G S I'll be interested to learn how you get on with the hard seat and stiff suspension.
@tomg86364 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that you were quite critical right out of the gate on this one. Made me smile. Looking forward to the other videos on this on, currently thinking a toss up between this, the bmw r1250rs or .... something else that’s got decent weather protection, and will be fun and progressive to ride. Also I am 5’10” with a 30” leg and I found the bike really tall..... what a difference 2” makes down stairs... Fnar fnar
@PabloConcrete4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Mrs Flyer would entirely agree......
@erikleeblake4 жыл бұрын
The last generation was vicious-fast, with a rock-solid chassis that lent it immediately intuitive handling. But those vibes were an instant deal killer in my mind. That BMW engineering had another chance at this model and didn't eliminate that serious failing is incomprehensible, and borderline negligence. At least it checks the box with that strange insectoid front that ADV riders apparently adore.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Well lots of reviews I've seen since I made this said that the vibes were cured, so maybe I'm super sensitive. They are definitely much improved and no longer a deal breaker in my opinion, but at certain rev/speed combinations, they are there....not as smooth as I'd like a 4 cylinder to be....
@CriticalRider4 жыл бұрын
The price is absolutely pornographic!! :-O €24k without hard luggage, compared to €14k for a Yamaha Tracer 900 GT that offers as much fun and touring capability. Can't find a justification for such an expensive price tag.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Well if people are willing to pay...or take out PCP deals.....
@dardobartoli4 жыл бұрын
I owned the Tracer 900GT for 6000 miles and I can assure you that you soon find out why it's so much cheaper. Doesn't matter how 'fun' the bike is, if it's build from cheese. However, it is hard to justify the BMW prices.
@davidthompson58124 жыл бұрын
I have the older Yamaha Tracer, had it for a couple of years and I love it :)
@Domitianvs4 жыл бұрын
I'd say the justification that they're going for there is probably that snazzy white and blue badge. Not that the badge alone is worth that much anyway. And I say that as a BMW rider.
@Juuul894 жыл бұрын
I see where you are coming from, I totally agree. I got my 2020 super adventure for 4k less than a similair specced XR, there's simply no justifying that price difference
@bradleyalexander58214 жыл бұрын
Brilliant motorbike to be sure. A prepaid thumbs 👍🏼 for Mrs Flyers appearance, we do enjoy visiting with her now and again.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
She'll be back!
@gmcphoto4 жыл бұрын
Nice looking machine but I do question the vulnerability of the lower oil cooler. As a BMW owner I can understand people being highly critical of the separate SAT NAV arrangement especially now with the introduction of these TFT instrument clusters. However once I learned how to use Garmin Basecamp to plan my routes I have a totally new appreciation for this configuration. The ability to remove the unit and program it off the bike while traveling is awesome! No one does GPS better than Garmin in my opinion, don’t believe me troll the Honda Goldwing sites. Many aren’t thrilled with the integrated NAV unit.
@fazerjohn4 жыл бұрын
Can you please confirm how wide the bike is with the panniers fitted? Always stress about filtering with panniers on. Also what is their capacity? Cheers and, as always thanks for the video.
@piersdenney4 жыл бұрын
What do you think compared to the 1260 Multistrada? I was very impressed by it (non-Enduro version)
@triumphtiger4 жыл бұрын
Having test ridden it three times, found it difficult to ride in town and didn't cope well with the uneven road surface in the south east (knocked off line a lot by defects in the road in bends), it's like being on a buzzing bumblebee, PCP is making BMW bike's prices stratospheric! I bought a new Triumph Tiger 900 instead (they also offered a £1000 more for my BMW part ex), just more useable real day power, comfortable and doesn't feel like it takes three people to get off it's side stand! Sadly I also think someone would steal a XR fairly quickly, being within the M25 some days.
@hollowaysteve4 жыл бұрын
PCP is the biggest legal racket for generations, and as you rightly point out is the reason for vastly inflated prices, giving manufacturers the perfect opportunity to overcharge. It’s basically profiteering.
@114jt4 жыл бұрын
hollowaysteve i couldn’t agree with you more! Without it the whole motor trade would be in ruins - it’s the same with cars! Who can realistically afford to drop 15K on a motorcycle!?
@hollowaysteve4 жыл бұрын
manwithnoname65 Yes. But it’s more than the difference in cost and the way the finance works. PCP has allowed manufacturers to artificially increase prices across the board. The whole system is a ‘win win’ for them and the story is far bigger than just finance.
@richardbrooks45494 жыл бұрын
Chris ODwyer Surely comparing the Tiger 900 with the BMW 1000 is not a fair comparison. The 900XR is similar in price to the Tiger and cheaper on PCP!
@triumphtiger4 жыл бұрын
@@richardbrooks4549 I was only trying to make a point about useable power and the state of roads we ride (wasn't comparing bikes) , PCP is a way BMW can lock you in and "Servitization" is also the future for these manufacturers. I do think trying to avoid massive depreciation is a big issue with very expensive bike's and cars, maybe contract hire? I had K1600GT it's depreciation was eye watering!
@veljkovic924 жыл бұрын
I did one test ride and liked it very much. Very minor vibrations that me as a sensitive rider didn't feel much, seat was lovely for touring, legs are comfortably positioned also, amazing wind protection...and more. I loved it but will do more test riding.
@terrymalyon41174 жыл бұрын
still got the vibration what about the rattle on cold start mine sounded like a bag of spanners on first start up worse if left for a couple of days . great vids mr flyer
@gaijinpete4 жыл бұрын
Im bit shorter in the leg, I test drove an xr, and that was what bugged me was the pegs were right where I wanted my legs to be when stopped
@FawadBilgrami4 жыл бұрын
And here I am.. after a long time.. just in time when I am in the market to buy one..
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Excellent!! Lots more to come on this bike...stay tuned.
@dsimon9s294 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. I was at a store the other day checking out the s1000r. The sales rep said it could be chipped to get the same output as the s1000rr. I suspect the exhaust would have to be changed, but the conversation went off in a different direction. In any case, I wonder if you could also chip the xr. Could make for an interesting bike. :)
@martinschonke65864 жыл бұрын
I believe the XR has a different cam shaft system/design from the RR. Highly skeptical on that comment.
@ozrider88964 жыл бұрын
Ha ha glad you mentioned your inside leg measurement, well done you remembered, I have the 2017 XR so interested how you getting on over the next few weeks.
@brankojerbic60404 жыл бұрын
Great review. This new XR is a nice looking bike and the rear panniers now clip on an off and dont need the old support frame which was an eye sore. Its a performance bike and any similarities with the GS just go out of the window above 8k rpm. I think it works a lot better than specs on paper and general perceptions. Really looking forward to seeing more on this new model and your thoughts of touring and longer ride feedback please. Just watch your speed on this one...
@mikemcgovern33724 жыл бұрын
Branko Jerbic Unless they only use 2 gears, most riders will spend the majority of their time well below 8k rpm.
@brankojerbic60404 жыл бұрын
@@mikemcgovern3372 the 1000cc 4 cylinder Bmw engine in the XR, R and RR idles at almost 2k rpm.... My friend has a 2019 XR and he loves taking it above 8k. Our bike group likes to go up in the hills, in the Hinterland and around the Scenic Rim in Queensland Australia, so you are correct, its mainly 1st and 2nd for him and one rider on an R1 mainly in 1st. I ride an R1200Rt Lc and its 2nd and 3rd for me....The roads here are empty compared to the UK where i grew up. I have ridden the Xr and its a fun bike and capable of touring but the power is definately at the top end. Personally i prefer the low down pull and midrange of the Boxer and other twins like the Ducati Multistrada. I guess it's all subjective to ones personal preference. However i did enjoy riding a Honda CBR1000RR which is a great bike that revs up to over 14k rpm. If I could afford it and justify it I'd have 20 bikes in the garage but 2 are enough at this time. What do you ride ? Have you tried the XR ?
@mikemcgovern33724 жыл бұрын
Branko Jerbic Ah, fair enough. Looked at the XR a while ago but went for a Multi which got written off. Then an 899 Panigale, then a 950sp. Also got a GS so I guess I like twins!
@iainian4 жыл бұрын
I think the oil cooler & radiator needs guard protection from stones etc ........bound to be expensive to replace! Good first impressions and as you say looks far far better at the front end.
@brittsmith18244 жыл бұрын
I had a 2016 model and the radiator caught a rock that created a leak. The cost to replace it was over $1,000 US. BMW = Bring More Wallet.
@christophertrueman67014 жыл бұрын
@@brittsmith1824 oil and rad guard combo for this new model is $89 CAD. easy decision.
@brittsmith18244 жыл бұрын
@@christophertrueman6701 Yes, lesson learned the hard way.
@SuperchargedLlama4 жыл бұрын
Nice review TMF. I noticed the colour looks very different between the GoPro and the phone, I assume the latter is more representative? Red is a bigger to film, but if it's like the phone footage then it's a lovely colour too.
@carlton6834 жыл бұрын
Great reviews and what a nice bike on your reviews can you mention if it gets hot on the seat and legs as my new triumph tiger 900 gets so hot, many thanks tony
@Gaz1za214 жыл бұрын
I never rode the old XR so will have to try the new, although in all honesty it’s not my cup of tea with the whole lucky chain stuff; it does fit a segment of the market though from those moving on from sports bikes to something more comfortable but not losing their sportsbike roots🤔
@DMRides4 жыл бұрын
TMF ive very interested in this bike, Im sure you'll answer in videos following on but the buzzing you described at the start of the video is that just in the seat? and if so can it be modded out with an after market seat? As im sure your aware the previous gen suffered from handlebar vibrations and other people have said that have eradicated this? can you offer more insite please? you may have already answered this in a video due for release soon.
@garethmayfield40144 жыл бұрын
will watch with interest, as I value your opinion. As this is on my shopping list. just those vibrations!!!!
@petefulford35564 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your further reviews. I think your loaner has the optional larger screen. I borrowed one whilst my GSA was benign serviced and found the seat Uber comfortable for the 4 hour ride I did. Also I had no issues with any vibrations. My verdict - excellent machine and I want one!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
So when are you putting the deposit down?
@dungbeetlemovies4 жыл бұрын
Buzzy engine at motorway speeds and a hard seat. Hmm, next contestant please!
@user-cx2bk6pm2f4 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the new symmetrical front. The asymmetrical prior version was a monsterosity!! Was an absolute deal breaker for me. Now, though, I'm in!
@user-cx2bk6pm2f4 жыл бұрын
Having a separate, removable GPS is GOOD!!! Being a Garmin based unit, it it fully compatible with Garmin Basecamp software. People who go for long tours create routes in Basecamp on their computer. Then they detach the GPS from the bike, bring it inside, connect to the computer, and upload the tour route. It's actually a very slick and seamless method to get complicated long tour routes into the GPS unit.
@mikemcgovern33724 жыл бұрын
G Basecamp is pants.
@CeeRTee4 жыл бұрын
Test riding one of these tomorrow, will probably wait for another of your videos on said bike to see what u think as an hour test ride is pants most of the time. Thanks for the videos.
@stitch31634 жыл бұрын
Good show, Andy. Really looking forward to your series of review videos for this bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@philsdt35724 жыл бұрын
Very nice machine. The only Beemer I could ever be tempted to go for would be a two-wheeler, tbh. Whilst I'm here, if you ever get the chance, I'd be interested to see if you could get Yamaha to give you a spin on their new Tricity 300 'trike' and then give us your thoughts on what seems to be a potentially big growth area in commuting as far as some brands are concerned. The launch day reviewers seemed to enjoy riding it but it would be very interesting to get your keen-eyed views.
@Wats19844 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the vids on this bike. Considering changing my S1000r for one in a year or so. Keen to see what the luggage offers in terms of useable space and practicality. 👍
@GSCork4 жыл бұрын
OMG just look at that cat converter for emissions :( . I'll stick with my GS. I'd love the power but couldn't loose the comfort of the GS.
@dalehawkes16984 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your longer term view TMF I have a 19 and this is probably my next chariot 👍👍
@roberthall14374 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video TMF. I think i would prefer the 900 XR , its lighter and more manageable, there was a lot of grunting when you picked it up off the side stand on the turning circle check. It will probably sell well. BMW has a great range of bikes at the moment. Cheers.
@QuebecTango794 жыл бұрын
Be nice to see a review of this and the R1250GS. Split video Andy to test your editing skils. I think many GS owners have considered the XR at some point and it would be good to hear your views. I wonder how close the usable performance is now that the GS has even more torque.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Its in the can and coming soon!
@QuebecTango794 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Look forward to it.
@robertwbeams99294 жыл бұрын
Great first ride, look forward to the bigger picture. First impression is that without the BMW roundel it might not be a BMW. If the seat, the short sidestand, Satnav screen and other issues were perfect I would pay the premium price, but really BMW you must up your game to retain the reputation. I agree with the comparisons with a GS. Would I soon regret buying this bike and wishing I had rather saved for the thoroughbred 1250GS? Mrs Flyer's views eagerly awaited.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned Robert - Mrs Flyer has been on board and will be sharing her views in a video to come!
@gunton214 жыл бұрын
As always TMF, good honest opinion, I have a 2018 model, agree at motorway speeds it is very viby, "best to go above motorway speeds then!", I love the riding position, and performance, mine seems to handle better two up, and you can certainly throw it into the bends, I've put a 'foot on my side stand so it stands more upright, you need a mortgage to buy the BMW luggage though, use the quickshifter and it flies, agree it's more for sports bike riders who want a more comfortable riding position.
@Joric784 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the "adventure" styling of the new sports tourers, I really don't need the ground clearance, but the BMW seems like a very competent bit of kit. I habitually walk bikes around while seated on them when parking though, and I can just see how I'd bark my shins or the back of my ankle with that peg position (not that this bike's alone in that).
@Hooner774 жыл бұрын
I understand what your saying, I would put this bike in the sport touring segment of the market. BMW puts this in their Adventure lineup. The R1250 RT is the true sport touring in their lineup.
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
Keyless ( on Speed Triple). Yeah it's silly. Still need the key for the seat, and petrol filler cap. It kind of makes the dealer fit alarm a necessary extra. I'm getting used to it. I still don't like it !
@simonrobinson75364 жыл бұрын
Great first ride review and thoughts , be interesting to see what you think in the final video, which you hinted at in a Previous video
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned!
@gogsalba45734 жыл бұрын
Rode the 2015 initial version through Italy Austria Slovenia into Croatia and back over a week on all road types, passes and M ways....in testing conditions over all the usual passes... Loved it, vibes were noticeable but didn't put me off it.... great bike then... refinements and major changes now... looks to be the bike it was meant to be.... still can't afford one... so will wait until 2027 and get one then.... good informative vlog as usual.... :-)
@fyorbane4 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki's superb 2020 Ninja 1000 SX is far better value for money in my opinion. Or the excellent and often forgotten Triumph Tiger sport 1050. Not so many bells and whistles but it's got everything you really need to get you going. Excellent review as always Andy. Take care and ride safe.
@neilhowe26654 жыл бұрын
watch your speed ....30 means 30 ...
@nickandrews28334 жыл бұрын
I agree - what’s the point in trying to protect lives by keeping close to speed limits if those of us that should be setting examples blatantly don’t. 45 in a 30 is just unacceptable.
@user-nt9nd7xm5f4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review as always. I took one out last week and had exactly the same thoughts bit buzzy in 6th at 4000rpm felt strange like it needed another gear which it obviously doesn’t, if you ride through it you don’t notice it as much but then your 70+ apparently it’s a consequence of the dreaded Euro 4. Totally agree with seat comfort or lack of it, Wunderlich may come out with a replacement or Viking Motorcycle Seats Sevenoaks can customise. I couldn’t really fault it apart from that. Retail £16795 dealer would do £16000 otr. Extras personally I would just need luggage and integrated sat nav. I’m trying to find one bike that does 4 bikes job and px ing the lot, I think this is as close as I have found that ticks all the boxes. Be really interested to see pillion video as the Mrs needs to be comfy and the gel seat on my Tiger is faultless.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I have a video coming soon where Mrs Flyer compares the comfort of the XR with the GS from a pillion's point of view....stay tuned!
@user-nt9nd7xm5f4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer excellent thanks for that
@ADVBrett4 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to your long term review Andy. Stunning looking bike, looks great for touring but I’m still swayed to the 1250GS/GSA.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned Brett - lots more to come including my direct real-world comparison between this and the GS....
@ADVBrett4 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer Ahh now you’re talking!! Looking forward to it mate!
@SuperWingdriver4 жыл бұрын
Please when you test a bike where the luggage cases are mounted on, open them and show us how much they can hold and talk abouth the quality, thank you
@alancampbell10084 жыл бұрын
Especially to see if at least one of the cases can hold a full face lid
@cpuuk4 жыл бұрын
A-ha, this is exactly what I said when I test rode it- it was buzzing my testicles! Best gearbox of any bike I've tried. Rides like a thoroughbred.
@nickarcher47754 жыл бұрын
Cracking Video as always....shame about that buzzing still.....was hoping they would have dialled this out for the new model.....still on my shortlist though along with the R1250RS ....but for the money BMW want I'd want it to be perfect.....and while I'm yet to have a test ride....I suspect it may be an issue, hopefully not a deal breaker
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
No it’s defo not a deal breaker anymore....
@tomthompson74004 жыл бұрын
great review , and a fine looking bike. The sat nav is in two parts so they can sell you the second one as an option , or thats certainly the way it looks to me. But ill bet its an easy bike to live with , look forwards to your thoughts a few weeks down the line , but by then its winter and this will be last years model in january , so I wonder what next years version has in store, this has been such an odd year in so many ways.
@daved40944 жыл бұрын
Imagine what the price would be if every bike came with a satnav, At least as things stand you can take yours with you if you buy another BM. The XR looks OK but that seat looks like it would be pretty uncomfortable after a couple of hours.
@limV4 жыл бұрын
Test rode this a couple of weeks ago while my Speed RS had new tires installed.Did not think I would like it as I am a naked bike fanboy. However, I thought the XR was absolutely amazing! Rides great, the weather protection is almost perfect (screen just an inch or so too low for me to be in complete calmness, but that's and easy fix. It goes like I don't even know while being super comfy ....and I think this will be very expensive when the 2021 version in hp- (or is is it M now?) color scheme. I want one. Badly.
@DaveoAU4 жыл бұрын
This is top of the list for the next bike along with the 850gsa, and the next gen S1000r (can’t stand the squinty eyes either!) looking forward to the next few videos!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned - lots more to come!
@duckysan4 жыл бұрын
My son has the 2018 S100XR, and I feel it's way too busy at speed. I'm always looking for a 7th gear! We'll probably change sprockets this year to make the gearing taller. Fuel consumption and consequently range is less than desired, although not as bad as some. The 2020 model adds TPMS which is a very welcome addition, curiously absent from the previous years. Comfort and ergos are great - but the buzz through the bars cannot be completely tamed even with weightier bar-ends. This becomes an annoyance on longer trips. Good to see the lareger screen on the 2020 - my son has the MRA which is similar in style.
@curnobullen4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can’t wait for the long term review of the bike. I’m currently torn between the 900tiger and S1000XR. I know it’s 2 completely different bikes , but looking forward to the next lot of videos.
@SteveW674 жыл бұрын
Curno Bullen I’ve just bought the tiger 900 GT plus luggage for £12.4k no comfort problems at all and saved £££’s over the bmw. 😎👍
@curnobullen4 жыл бұрын
Steve Wright totally agree. The tiger is a lot of bike for much cheaper. I really like the new tiger. Enjoy
@MrJohnnynapalm74 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the report with a pillion on a long-ish journey 👍
@r6ymy4 жыл бұрын
I think they've done a good job on the styling, but from a practicality point of view it seems to have a ridiculously short front mudguard, so I think an extender and radiator guards would be a sensible addition.
@RichDunn4 жыл бұрын
You went through Winkfield Row; I used to live there, glad you noticed its beauty! The biggest complaint of the MK1 and MkII versions where annoying vibes through the handlebars; supposedly quelled for 2020 - how did you fine them?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
As I said in the video - improved but still there at certain revs....
@RichDunn4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Missed that - I must try harder! 😀
@ianofsjkartwork4 жыл бұрын
Great first review of a nice looking bike enjoy....stay safe....thanks for sharing
@JPHOT1004 жыл бұрын
Horses for courses and I’m not expecting you to like this steed Mr Flyer (you’ve never liked the old one). I’ve done 13k miles on my XR and, although it has some faults, I love it. The vibes have never been an issue. Maybe I’m weird but I quite like a bike engine to make its presence felt, possibly because it reminds me of the 80’s and 90’s Kawasaki’s I owned in my youth. I borrowed a 1250 GS for a week recently as the XR had some warranty work done. No argument that the GS was an excellent bike in every way (except the seat which doesn’t suit my ass so I found it far less comfortable than the XR after 3 hours). My real issue is that the GS, in my highly personal opinion, was so unbearably dull compared to the XR. I may grow up one day but, with my 57th looming in two weeks, I still don’t want to give up that “angry” machine that floats the front wheel in third without even trying (thank you, boffins, for modern electronics..!).
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Nice one SD! Completely respect that, we can't all like the same thing!
@The3334 жыл бұрын
No wonder you never get a chance to ride your own bikes! You are amazing, my friend. Was definitely interested to see your take on this bike. Given the choice: Tiger 900, BMW RS1250 or this bike, which would you choose?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
RS1250 I think - easier to move around with the low COG and I'm not that into very fast bikes, more interested in mid range shove and comfort.....
@kentbaxter82704 жыл бұрын
Great review as ever, be interested to hear a comparison to the Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro?
@carlton6834 жыл бұрын
Hi TMZ I just noticed 175k subs well done 👍
@alanhassall4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the leg length. I am 5'7" with a 26" inseam.
@caroldave40374 жыл бұрын
Just done 600 mile plus ride scotland with my gs 1250 hp riding pal.... and top bike every where is the GS...obviously top touring tool for the job.....I'm on my lowly versys 650...😊
@paulnegus24714 жыл бұрын
Nice Review - thanks. Any plans on doing a ride and compare on the 2021 model?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
No - are there any changes for 2021 then????
@louislopez554 жыл бұрын
Why is it that some inline fours are smooth, and some have excessive (handlebar) vibration? Engine counter-balancers, rubber handlebar or engine mounts? I would have thought a BMW would be one of the smooth ones, with its premium price and reputation.
@mikemcgovern33724 жыл бұрын
Louis Lopez The original XR was notoriously vibey.
@N6FUR4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a comparison with a 1250 GS? I'm tempted to swop next year.
@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes4 жыл бұрын
Would be a very tough choice for me between this... and the 1260 Multistrada S (if I had that kind of cash of course)
@palantir1354 жыл бұрын
Great bike but a bit too powerful for me. The 900 XR suits me better. Both have necessities I need for touring: Upright seating position Wind screen Hard cases luggage capacity Safety electronics like corner abs and traction control The rest of the electronic are nice but not necessary I very much like the position of the satnav (bmw satnavs are from Garmin)
@mplus13384 жыл бұрын
Test rode the old version and the buzz was mostly in the bars. I noticed you didn’t mention that on this one, just the seat then? Great vid as always, TMF
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Hugely improved over the last iteration - I noticed it most through the pegs and seat this time - minimal through the bars and then only at certain rev/speed combos....not really an issue on this bike.
@stableslayers39584 жыл бұрын
Great review. Good looking too. What about screen seems like your looking through it which can be a pet hate
@sharpbends4 жыл бұрын
Looking through that screen was excellent, what a nice view :-)
@mikeybikey1064 жыл бұрын
Love your channel , its good enough for skytv along the lines of Henry Coles shows. I have the previous model and tested the 2020 version and to summarise, it’s a great bike but somehow lacks the excitement/urgency of the previous model which I think is down to 2 changes. Firstly they have made it quieter and it does not have the induction roar of the previous bike and secondly, they have changed the gearing in 4/5/6 . Done 30K on my current XR so the new XR is likely to be my next bike in 6-12 months when hopefully there are some used low miles bikes for sale. Lastly, BMW customer service is superb and another reason why I wont be changing brands
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind comments!
@dalecoleman88524 жыл бұрын
The white estate car at 7.00 made me nervous whilst you were demonstrating the TFT!!. Great review as usual, but as I'm not too keen on concrete seats I won't be investing on this occasion, so I'm out.
@36moto4 жыл бұрын
It’ll be good to see what you think, I loved it, of all the bikes I’ve looked at lately ( to replace my gsa) I think this s1000xr is hovering at the top of the list...
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned - lots more videos to come on this one!
@petefulford35564 жыл бұрын
Same👍
@JoeMama-hr3qe4 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff mate, any chance you could do a video on the wk 125 scrambler? Cheers 👍
@cursedwon29104 жыл бұрын
Great video, when you do more could you cover the luggage please? Would really like to see their capacity, ease of opening and closing and removal if possible. Looking at one of these in the coming months when we get out of lock down in Victoria, Australia. I would like to know more and how it compares to the GS. Tossing up between the XR, GSA, Multistrada 1200s and the Super Duke GT.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I have a video coming soon comparing this with the GS - stay tuned!
@gregmatty63934 жыл бұрын
At 9:01 the bike looks almost identical to a Multistrada. I worry about Ducati reliability but neither my 2016 GS or 2018 has been reliable. 2018 has some serious valve noise I'll try to get resolved this week. I'd buy the Mutli 1260 today and just take my chances. Can't be any worse than my BMW's have been.
@markroberts55654 жыл бұрын
Another great review. I was really looking forward to riding this bike as a serious replacement for my R1200GS; but after test riding it I can back up all the positives & negatives you've initially highlighted. Good off the motorway not so much on (buzzy)! But then you come to the price ouch! The latest BMW Racing Colour scheme before panniers or a sports silencer is the best par of £19k! Just not worth the extra!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Glad we concur!
@hanzkoenig4 жыл бұрын
Cheers TMF! Great review as always! Nowadays all bikes are built really well, as bikers we can pick and choose. When it comes to the pricing, oops, just spilled my cuppa...like a beautiful woman shaking her ping-pongs at you and then walking away forever. Also, it should come along with a Personal Bike Butler who'd have to clean THAT chain ( ??? )daily...and then some. I'm curious about your verdict in two weeks. Enjoy!!!