2020 Shelby GT500 CFTP wing-trunk lid corrosion problem fix!

[@ShelbyFlyer]

For those that claimed this panel is aluminum, see this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHfSfHyspN9ph6M

[@ryanp4915]

Good early catch Tim! On bare steel would recommend a paint prep cleaner, self-etching primer, auto-primer, then a final coat in that order. Final coat paint may have adhesion challenges to bare steel in the long run.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Ryan… good tips! 🍻

[@tammybreuker7831]

That’s totally ridiculous, Ford needs to do better considering the price of these GT 500’s!!

[@MeetJoeBlack55]

You have got the patience and calm nature to put up with Ford's poor quality control .... I would have been madder than a wet hornet in a hurricane.

[@maintenancethrottle]

Excellent preventative measures, Tim! That info should really help all those CFTP guys. 👍

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Fletch!

[@anthonydamico5830]

You could probably use a magentic socket on the nuts for the wing so you dont lose them. Thanks for this vid. I was curious how to take this off. Now i have another project on hands thanks to you haha. Appreciate the vids. Just picked up a 22 eruption green cftp with no stripes with 215 miles on it. Took me a year to find this car.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks! Congratulations on your car! I have a ton of videos for the 20-22 GT500s on my channel.

[@mdmoore23]

Good catch. Some of the quality shortcomings on these cars are very concerning for the price point.

[@mattwarren2742]

Well done...I hope Ford Performance gets to see this video...you have solved the issue with a very high degree of success...I don’t think very many owners would even recognize this as being a issue...always enjoy your videos...🙌

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Matt Warren Thanks Matt!

[@FordPerformanceForever]

Tim! Keep up the good work! We appreciate you in the GT500 community! Always a wealth of valuable info!

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks for the kind words Craig! 🍻

[@davidleonoff1971]

Thanks for the information. It is insane that this is even needed but I did modification to my car and I am glad I did.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Appreciate it! Good work fixing yours!

[@normanstrickland4970]

Great content once again goose had the same issue with my 89 Saleen Wing in 93. My car in fiber Track Pack car is in Georgia on a train headed to South Carolina. Thanks for the intel on how to track CSX rail. Planning on using very thin gasket material or 3M double back tape around that pocket in the wing mount.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Norman. Congrats on your CFTP!

[@350R19]

That's pretty disappointing @Ford. That should be a recalled item in my opinion to have Ford correct especially at that vehicles price point.

[@greggcarter5697]

Glad you found the potential corrosion points and was able to take care of it. Your car is so immaculate the paint looks sticky. Good job.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Gregg!

[@gilberthale7777]

The solution you offer is, as expected from you, rock solid.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Gil!

[@davepaxton8987]

Great video. All 2020 Gt-500 owners need to do this. After spending $120k on a car I would never expect this poor quality . I’d be pissed off ..Ford needs to fix this issue before Folks take delivery.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Dave!

[@frankiede4393]

trunk lid is made of aluminum wont rust but clear coat on paint could lift, and steel bolt may cause galvanic corrosion, I would have hit it with zinc primer.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks for the info Frankie!

[@Was-here2]

It may not "rust" but aluminum will corrode.

[@anthonylaudano9751]

@@ShelbyFlyer I love the video with your son.Buying him the gt.Does he still have the car

[@anthonylaudano9751]

@@ShelbyFlyer I plan doing something similar and buying a 06 Shelby Hertz car for a very close friend

[@anthonylaudano9751]

@@ShelbyFlyer I can't imagine all the shit talkers.Talking shit about your collection. Unfortunately a lot of people are negative

[@tonystuart6523]

Great video! I am glad you found this problem and a fix.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Tony!

[@timbarker4024]

The non track pack car is going to have same problem with the wing. Just detailing when opening up trunk water was dripping out from the wing where mounted to the trunk.

[@stevenlassiter1532]

Great Job on Sealing that Wing. I'm so Disappointed in tbe Quality Ford did on your Gorgeous Mustang. That Paint is just Killer.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Steven!

[@EnthusiastsGarage]

Seems like a solid fix. That’s a pretty tacky way for Ford to drill those holes, I would expect some kid mounting a wing on a civic to do it like that. Ford better get their act together or they are gonna have a lot of upset customers. Might I also recommend a detailing/work cart for your tools/hardware. I have one and it’s much better than having everything scattered around.

[@Archangel3083]

Whatever works but I find tracing the mount onto a piece of rubber gasket cleaner and easier.

[@stevegolz813]

Great job as always.

[@Quik5oh]

Wow, great work as usual Tim! Does anyone know if this is an issue for 2020, 2021, and 2022 model years with CFTPs or perhaps just 2020s?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks! I don’t believe Ford addressed this issue… should be the same all 3 years as far as I know.

[@SpeedshifterGT350R]

Nice job making that deal better. I don’t know if I would have been brave enough to do it myself.. I admire all your SVT stuff (flags, banners etc) in the garage, that stuff was hard to find years ago. I assume you had connections to collect all that cool stuff? Great garage layout, I would never go into the house Ha!

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Barry! I have acquired most of the memorabilia off eBay through the years.

[@bromfed]

are sure that's not aluminum? I would think any bare steel exposed to water would corrode almost immediately.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Someone else said it is aluminum. I didn’t know that.

[@dannyMCDelight]

Cmon, Ford, you’re asking $100,000 for a Mustang! improve on build quality

[@justin.c_svt]

What brand socket wrench did ford include in the kit? Did you also get the model 2.65 rotor pack with the car?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

There is no name brand on the tools... just the laser etched snakes and yes, the blower is a 2.65L.

[@PatrickItsPains]

Interesting as always! How do you think the base wing is setup? Think it's worth a look?

[@HolgatoJ]

As far as I know the track pack setup is mounted after the production of the car. When mounting the base wing it should be done during production so the trunk lid is pre drilled before painting. If you look up here on youtube there is a couple of videos where people take of the PP wing and you can see that the lid has been painted after drilling so it should be home safe :)

[@PatrickItsPains]

@@HolgatoJ thanks for the information! Aways cool to see the differences between trims.

[@NigelsModellingBench]

That's terrible!! Those holes look like they were done last thing on Friday?? It's also worth noting that even without a wing bracket there, that point is where water collects on the trunk lid. I think I might have left an unsealed area at the lowest point so condensation doesn't occur? I guess if you live in a better climate than the shitty UK that's not a concern?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Yes, the rough drilled unfinished holes are not good. I solved the problem though and it’s all good now.

[@scottdonbrosky5968]

Oh no! Why didn’t you use either a rubber washer or o-ring about each bolt and drill or machine a drain recess so water will drain out. You’ll regret that silicone in the future. My GT350R had epoxy primer applied around the drill holes from the factory. Love your videos though

[@ShelbyFlyer]

I didn’t want to permanently modify the wing mounts (drilling).

[@HairyHotDogz]

Have you had any running from the truck lid on the bumper at all? I installed the carbon fiber truck lid and passenger side rubs the bumper pretty good

[@ShelbyFlyer]

I assume you mean RUBBING and TRUNK lid. I have a rubbing video on my channel. I had to adjust my deck lid.

[@HairyHotDogz]

@@ShelbyFlyer I mean the actual trunk deck lid. The stock one is shined black with the cobra and ford has a factory carbon fiber M-16600-MCF. The passenger right corner hits the bumper causing my paint protection to bunch up a bit. Almost like the passenger side sits too low now. I’ll try adjusting the bump stop. Wasn’t sure if you ran into this yet. Appreciate the reply!

[@ShelbyFlyer]

@@HairyHotDogz I loosened the hinges on mine and adjusted the entire trunk.

[@cmweek19]

Do you know the part number for the captured cap nut that goes with the wing adjustment point? I lost one of my capped nuts and need a new one.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Holler at your dealer’s parts department. Give them your VIN… they should be able to look it up.

[@chriswalsh7582]

How do you come up with the great vanity plates?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Chris! I was brainstorming last summer when I ordered my base model and came up with this one. It was only fitting for the first DCT tranny Mustang. I’ve seen a couple owners “commandeer” it since I posted pics online.

[@time_on_target]

What kind of floor covering do you have in your shop? I’m thinking about doing an epoxy on my shop floor. I researched a few options and from what I saw epoxy seems to be the most durable.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Adam B It is metallic epoxy, which is glossy.

[@time_on_target]

@@ShelbyFlyer how do you like it? Would you recommend it? How long have you had it on your shop floor. Thanks PS. Who do you fly for?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

@@time_on_target Love my metallic epoxy! I highly recommend it! Mine was done a handful of years ago. I fly Boeing 767s for a US carrier.

[@gentry222]

What about drilling a drain hole adjacent to the inboard hold down bolt just in case? Looks like the low point on the lid.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

I won’t be drilling any holes in the car. Then the water would go inside the trunk lid panel or inside the trunk. I believe I have sealed it off anyway.

[@kgthegreatone943]

Nice job! Are you ever going to get a shelby GT350?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

No plans for a GT350. The new GT500 does everything a GT350 does with more insanity, plus I already own a naturally aspirated 2000 Cobra R.

[@xrmerkur]

🐍The GT500 is a phenomenal car. However build quality begins with a mass produced $30k vehicle. All the bells and whistles attached triples the price but not the fit and finish. Beautiful car, but Ford definitely needs to take note from you.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

xrmerkur I agree on all accounts!

[@Lethal_Venom]

That's so odd that Ford did it this way on a GT500.

[@dennisalverson1060]

I have a 2020 GT 500 with standard spoiler, wonder if it has the same issues ?

[@gilberthale7777]

I was wondering the same thing. I will be checking into it.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Not sure what is under the base spoiler.

[@fredepps5954]

That car is to nice to have a problem like that i love your gt 500 t shirt where can I get a shirt like that

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thanks Fred. I don’t recall where I got it. Check ebay and Etsy.

[@stephenr115]

Awesome Mr. Goose! Wonder why you didn’t get the gaskets but I was thinking the same on the fix. I’d write a letter to FP and PR departments. Sad 18,500 gets a crappy instal. Do you think Non CFTP has a similar issue?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Stephen Rapp Thanks Stephen! I’m not sure what is under the base “swing.” I never had any trapped water seeping issues so I never removed it.

[@stephenr115]

I have noticed the same. Grit and water came out and caused some marring etc. not sure what product to use.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Stephen Rapp You’d have to do some exploratory surgery to see if the swing can be removed (might be taped down).

[@stephenr115]

Will do!

[@allysonsuansing1975]

this is a gt500 track style rear wing right?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

This is the OEM carbon fiber wing that comes on the CFTP (carbon fiber track pack). The wing is adjustable up/down. The car also has carbon fiber wheels from the factory.

[@GR018]

Star pattern = Torx bit

[@ShelbyFlyer]

I did mention that later in the video.

[@j757G]

How did you get the red cobra?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Are you asking how I bought my red GT500?

[@j757G]

@@ShelbyFlyer no how did you get the cobra logo red?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

@@j757G Ahhhh! Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX-2mIaFh7qogbs

[@j757G]

@@ShelbyFlyer thanks alot man god bless

[@Was-here2]

Wow the way Ford did this is horrible. From the bolt holes to the edge around those braces already seem to be damaging the paint. Iys hard to tell from the video... is the edge of those braces chipping away at the paint?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Eric J. The edges of the wing braces have what looks like a little rubber on the bottom, which obviously does not work as intended. It does not mess up the paint though.

[@bigandbad9]

I love my mustang s550 but quality control is not Fords strong suit. This is unacceptable at this price point.

[@jimclarke1108]

Wing looks great, but not for me

[@ShelbyFlyer]

It is pure art... gorgeous in person and super light.

[@ramrodson5461]

I guess quality is no longer job one, even with a $75-$100k car. Great job Ford.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

This car is actually north of $100k.

[@ramrodson5461]

Sorry man I have a regular $40k dollar 15 GT with all kinds of Horrible fitment issues for body panels and rear glass. Plus the paint has huge amounts of orange peel in sone spots and thin paint in others with tick seam sealer painted in the windowchannels.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Yup! All Mustangs are built on the same line and come out with paint and fitment issues. Sorry it affected you as well.

[@stephenr115]

Why didn’t you get gaskets and then add silicone? I wonder if you could make a gasket out of gasket material as most silicone fails. Just ask my shower

[@ShelbyFlyer]

There are various ways to skin this cat. I am happy with how mine turned out.

[@stephenr115]

Agreed. I just hate FORD weaseling out of a fix expecting owners to be DIY. I hate to compare and not advocating but never on my wife’s 760 LI BMW did we have to engineer a DIY fix. Sloppy for ford to do this. But as always you take a direct non combative approach in a common sense manner, something I truly respect you for!

[@BossMan-pp6qu]

You should have used clear silicone instead.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Black goes with the black on the wing supports.

[@GR018]

Things rust in Texas?

[@oscarmayer9823]

Silicone is the answer. You can’t go wrong anytime you wanna seal out water and prevent corrosion. But 116,000 dollar car should never have had this issue to begin with.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Completely agree Oscar!

[@oscarmayer9823]

@@ShelbyFlyer real nice collection and great way of storing them. I like the cobras and the fox bodies especially. I think the pace cars are the coolest. All the way back including the 64 and 79 pace cars.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Thank you sir!

[@jeremyflasch4079]

Is the deck lid aluminum?

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Someone else mentioned it is aluminum. That’s news to me.

[@johnswanson7962]

You can tell in a hurry w a magnet.

[@johnt6673]

Ford should have a complete gasket for the base of these mounts. Would cost pennies. Please contact ford, for the price of the car this is just wrong.

[@gilberthale7777]

It seems an added cost even for a fraction of a penny is enough to keep some improvements from ever being made. Sad, but that is the reality we face.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

A gasket would have been good.

[@davidt1441]

This is Penske flaws they install the wing they should use better workmanship

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Incorrect! At 14:26 in this video, you will see the CF wheels and wing are installed by Ford at the end of the production line. The car then goes to Penske for the painted stripes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXnXYoqGeLGMjMk

[@Mr351Ford]

Those raw holes are ugly!

[@FalcondRippr]

This is reason 14057 why I will never buy a Ford. Pretty...yes....fast...yes...but that is one hokey $100K car. Mopar cars are built better...no doubt. I'm no huge fan of GM cars either, but they're built better than Fords too. Every manufacturer has made lemons in the past but over the decades I've heard more horror stories about Ford cars than any other brand. I'll keep my SRT.

[@ShelbyFlyer]

I wouldn’t call the 2020 GT500 a “lemon.” It’s an epic car! It has a few issues that need attention though.

[@FalcondRippr]

@@ShelbyFlyer You should read my post again...I didn't...nor would I ever...call your car a lemon. It's a fast, beautiful car. Mustangs never appealed to me, but the GT500 is certainly the best looking Mustang ever. I don't appreciate the way they attached that spoiler...it's hokey...especially for their top of the line car. All the GT500's on KZbin came with paint and misc mechanical flaws. In my life's experience...I've seen that Ford does stuff like this time and time again. I'm a Mopar guy and I'll be the first to admit that Chrysler has produced some serious lemons in the past, but overall, especially with their current line-up, I think they build better, stronger cars that last longer than both Fords and GM's. If I had your car I'd sell it and buy the upcoming Charger Hellcat RedEye. Or...just keep the Mustang and buy the RedEye anyway. I have a friend who has a 2016 Hellcat Charger with 160K hard miles on it. The only thing he's done is replace a sensor, brake pads and fluids. No leaks and the car still runs 3.6 0-60's. We'll see if your Mustang can do that. Good luck.

[@wallyo121]

@@FalcondRippr Your comparing Chrysler Quality control to Fords LOL I'll stick with a Ford thank you

[@FalcondRippr]

@@wallyo121 Everybody's got their opinions based on their life experiences. I've never owned a Ford but my opinion is based on things I've read and things I've heard from friends and family. Here I'm comparing Mustangs with Chargers and Challengers. I own a 'Charger and have a good friend with Mustang GT. I'm here to tell you that the Charger has a better paint job, nicer seats, nicer steering wheel, nicer stereo better brakes and better build quality. After 4 yrs my car has zero squeaks and rattles and his 2 yr. old Mustang has so many it sounds like a pinball machine. Just goin' by what I see. You see different and that's OK.

[@YingYangStang]

good job - shame Ford lets what looks like a "Chimpanzee Job" get by and out of the factory for folks who pay $110K for this way overpriced car - which is essentially a Roush phase 2 kit Mustang GT

[@ShelbyFlyer]

The 2020 GT500 is waaaay more than a Roush stage 2. It’s a beast!

[@lynnf6459]

yes FORD is going downhill, i have 2 different FORD vehicles, soon to be somebody else problem, way overpriced , BUYER BEWARE, you've been warned!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ShelbyFlyer]

Despite some issues I’ve had to work through with my 2020 GT500, I absolutely love the car!

[@travissmith712]

I would have let the F'er rust!