2021 Kawasaki ZX-10RR Project! Pt.2 - First Dyno Pulls, Break-In & Stock Dyno Results!

[@Stan-rf2bn]

Thanks for the update, and looking forward to all the mods that you have planned for it.😀

[@EddyBmwsrr]

Hello, a ZXR superbike, looking forward to the circuit. A pleasure to follow you.. Eddy.

[@MyTruckstop]

Been watching a lot of dyno pulls from most manufacturers. I understand heat cycling on the dyno etc., but break in periods are supposed to be for all components, breaks, tires, bearings, chains, sprockets etc. Whether that affects ultimate HP can be argued but establishes that all mating components are wore in properly. Years ago the cycle magazines would publish quarter mile and roll on times. I would rather see these machines taken to the track totally stock ( tire air pressures etc.) and run to establish the trap speeds. Kawasaki probably spent more money on engineering the fairing for down force for Johnny Rae in WSBK which how many of us would actually feel that than squeezing out 200 HP. But I do love the color.

[@mikebannerman72]

Thanks for being straight up with the dyno readings, I’ve got my bike booked in to have ECU flash in a few months time and I’m continually hearing the same thing about accurate readings which slightly concerns me as it’s all about money and affordability for me as it is for most folks so you’re just hoping you get what you pay for.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

As long as the tuner is good and they do a proper calibration, you'll be fine.

[@peytonhibdon7659]

It will be interesting as these bikes are developed to see if the RR is even more restricted than the standard bike due to the different internals.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

Definitely. The results after the first round of updates is done will be very exciting.

[@jaybusa3302]

Cant wait to see what you can do with it when she done...👍🏻👍🏻

[@nickrider5220]

Thanks for the video, I like the professional, no bs way the information is delivered. This is the first rr I've seen on the dyno, the others have been the single r - pretty sure the single r has much the same engine as the earlier model and it's only the rr with the trick internals like you said. Looking forward to the build 👍

[@ryant3694]

Mss performance had a RR on the dyno in late November.

[@nickrider5220]

I've just had a look at the video, no figures or anything, but race teams don't like to give much away - it's good that SBU are pretty open on many things.

[@josegerman8877]

I was really thinking BIG HP numbers it being the RR....WOW Big let down..... but....Excited to see what you get it to good luck my man!!!!!!!!

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

Yes, it is rather unimpressive stock, but this is to keep the bike emissions legal. It should be much more impressive in race trim.

[@anthonyamado7399]

Its cause numbers where din. Plus does the bike have fresh 92-93 octane in it?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@anthonyamado7399 False. DIN reads higher. We shared the SAE numbers already, sub 165. Yes, the fuel is new.

[@daveyt4802]

May be for noise abatement also.

[@red.riot.2280]

Thank you! I’ve seen 176. Etc. It’s bs until you can see back to back with other bikes to gauge what the real power will feel like. I can’t wait to see a 2020 r1 uncorked! Have you dynoed a stock r1 yet?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

Only mapped with the race kit ECU, we have not baselined a stocker.

[@michalklx450]

Surely you can get 240 hp out it with some mods?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@michalklx450 75 horsepower? Big bore or nitrous would be the only way.

[@michalklx450]

SuperbikeUnlimited.com damn I thought a race ecu and a exhaust would do it lol nvm

[@MRR-qv3bw]

DYNO is a tool. Really the only numbers that's important is your base number and the number you finish with after your tune(flash). The OL butt DYNO will definitely be happy with some quality key strokes by a reputable tuner/builder. My bmw S1000RR M 2020 was a completely different bike after I flashed the ecu. It transformed my bike so much that I had to learn the bike over again.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

Correct, this is why dyno numbers are only relevant on the same dyno.

[@Sunedosa]

Considering that there's race cams available isn't there usually a race harness/ECU available from Kawasaki ? If the double RR is the basemodel for racers it sounds strange that track only tuneable electronics isn't part of a "racekit"

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

It will be, for sure. It's just not useable on the road.

[@Sunedosa]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited Yea i know about the road usage, just wondered why you had to go motec in that case, is it easier to work with ?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@Sunedosa We didn't have to, we wanted to. It's more complicated, but vastly superior to a kit ECU in every respect.

[@Sunedosa]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited Cool, thanks for clearing that up :-)

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@Sunedosa We will try and cover it in more detail in future videos. 👌

[@daveyt4802]

Great job! Watching another ZX-10R on a drag racing channel. They unlocked the ECU somehow.

[@danbrown6255]

Looking forward to more on this

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

Big updates coming soon!

[@rusticspoon6103]

Awesome series guys! Would it be possible for you to point out some of the stuff that’s changed from the previous gen when you tear it down? I’ve heard airboxes are different, and even that the RR doesn’t come with velocity stacks. Thank you!

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

💯 We will be happy to.

[@Stage2_392]

Btw chris moore does a beat the engine up break in with only 7 miles on it. It made 175. On pump. And 183 on mr12. Also 650ib dynoed the zx10r and the new honda fireblade they also made 175 stock.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

We choose the same protocol the factory Kawasaki superbike program does. Realistically, those dynos simply read higher.

[@wayno23]

Yeah i saw those other dyno runs too of just the 10r. Bit sketchy so many different claims out there. Was really surprised to see only 167 from a 10rr

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@wayno23 it's very rare for stock Japanese motorcycles to impress on the dyno.

[@wayno23]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited i think your numbers are more realistic.

[@Zx10mezz]

Nice video!!! Mines made 165 on my local dyno! Sounds like we have similar dynos!! Good video! Please lmk if y’all will be releasing a plug play harness for the motec ecu.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

We definitely will, the whole kit should be about $6500 (including the ECU).

[@Zx10mezz]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited ufff thank you sir 💪🏼

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@Zx10mezz For sure! 👊

[@ryant3694]

Why do you use DIN for the CF in the states? Isn't the standard SAE? I know the other guys tend to use STD for the big wow factor, but have not seen anyone use DIN. Great video 👍

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

We've been using it to compare with some of our technical partners in Europe more easily. It reads slightly higher than SAE.

[@Nathan180swiss]

Thanks for the video! Was hoping to be more than that ... Why tha manufacturers lie about that all the time!? We will find out anyway 😤😤 ! Waiting to see you get best of it !! 🤘👊 hope 205 !!! 💪🤙🤙

[@PaddleDogC5]

Lie about what? They measured RWHP here.

[@paullaceymorell]

Hey I just got my ECU from these guys!

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

♥️👊

[@ramonamohammed6626]

Love the content.

[@BradUSMCVETrider]

What hidden power have you unlocked for the 2016, Zx14R, with no other mods besides a flash?

[@PaddleDogC5]

Don't forget think anyone has cracked new Corvette ecu yet either. Really 🔒 ng them all down. I guess if someone made it it can be hacked too.

[@AST4EVER]

How much horsepower was your 2019 Zx10rr Project Superbike making..?? Because it initially made same horsepower but we don't know what the final figure was....

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

We never shared that, in part because that is our MotoAmerica Superbike. We can tell you it was a number that begins with 2. 😉

[@AST4EVER]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited 2 is a good number to begin with.... 🍻 Enjoy the New Year folks....

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@AST4EVER You too! Thank you.

[@KUKI_de]

thumbs up 👍 nice Video :) 🔥🔥🔥 Ride safe! greetings KUKI

[@chriswade3986]

Where are you guys out of

[@teequegaming6447]

I love the look of the zx10s, but the stock exhaust is really not that great. Edit: i don't think it sounds too crazy with the 650i either.

[@justappearances]

So zx10r makes more power than zx10rr bone stock? Like almost 20hp difference

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

No, some dynos just read that much higher! That's why we tell people to not put a ton of stock info dyno numbers, instead to focus on gains made on a given dyno.

[@isahal2252]

Can you explain why 10RR is cheaper than the H2 by 500$ ? why the ridiculous price on the 10RR ?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

It's primarily due to being a homologation special. It has parts that may not be changed in World Superbike per the rules. Namely, connecting rods and pistons. The cost of those parts alone direct from the vendor, Pankl is many thousands of dollars. KRT wanted these parts standard, so they would be legal for their WSBK campaign efforts.

[@isahal2252]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited but is it worth the price? Like you can add 500 buck and get the famous H2, which has more power and speed, so is the price worth on the RR?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@isahal2252 For us it is. An H2 would be worthless around a race track.

[@isahal2252]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited is that so ??? Why though ?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@isahal2252 A. It weighs way too much. B. It is illegal for every class.

[@larryhouse8358]

All the better tech and equipment in the RR doesn't mean a thing if they're all restricted to meet a specific emission requirement. The RR and R are basically the same thing at this point. You just end up paying more for the name really.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

In stock trim, the RR will still have a lighter rotating assembly. In race trim, it'll be much better.

[@raynic1173]

A bike is more than just the power it produces. You need to get that out of your head, imho.

[@anthonyamado7399]

Why would you show us the numbers in DIN when you showed us the numbers for the 2019 RR in SAE?? Would sure be nice to see apples for apples brotha?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

We posted SAE on our page today, click the 'Community' tab on our profile.

[@BfaltS1K]

Chris moore got 172 and then mr12 made 182 not sure if that's too accurate but normally his dyno reads average

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

It looks like it made 10 more horsepower on that dyno versus ours, using a lower-reading correction factor. Running MR12 through a cat essentially destroys the cat, so we have no interest in trying that. The remainder of our testing on the dyno will be with proper components and tuning in place.

[@BfaltS1K]

I wasn't too sure if just mr12 with no tune had an affect on it only person who I seen do that was brentune but the bike was already tuned for pump fuel and it was in a rsv4rf. That's nice to know it's somewhat not safe. Definitely looking forward to what the bikes capable of once it's flashed

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@BfaltS1K Our goal will be to top the last one, which will be hard. The reason you don't want to use that fuel with a catalytic converter is because the lead will essentially plate and clog the cat. Thank you for watching!

[@tysta2]

@@BfaltS1K kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXLPeKuKpL2qoLs

[@BrianEvansracer]

My Graves built Superstock 2019 ZX-10RR put down 204 hp at the wheel. I would expect 207-208 on this new one...

[@sophonchan4402]

Video or it didn’t happen

[@BrianEvansracer]

@@sophonchan4402 lol b/c Graves makes those videos 😂 Ask ANYONE about their quality, literally anyone. They set the standard others aim for on Yamaha R6 and now Kawasaki ZX-6R and Stock 1000 ZX-10R(R) builds.

[@Shooter7250]

how much does the R1 perform on those new generation dynos in comparison?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

The 2020 with a full exhaust and race ECU makes in the high 180s.

[@Shooter7250]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited not bad, still far off a ducati ahah. Thank you for the knowledge, always appreciated.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@Shooter7250 The Ducati is a rocket! Mind boggling numbers.

[@ErnestoBoots]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited So higher than the 19 once the ecu is flashable? Do you think it can break 200whp? Awesome videos!

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@ErnestoBoots Thank you. We just don't know yet, but we will very soon!

[@Jose.LQ6]

oof so chocked

[@jamesperreault4506]

can you get a kit ecu?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

Yes, there is a full kit catalog.

[@jamesperreault4506]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited bring your CC.lol

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@jamesperreault4506 The electronics system we use is about 10x the cost of the kit stuff!

[@jamesperreault4506]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited i love going to a kaw dealer with kit numbers and the look on their face when the number don't match their computes..lol

[@pomplardpanam8591]

Hi bro Fredy my nigga Ib show 177bwhp in using the fifth gear but that's wrong because real pro like u do that in fourth gear LOL anyway i think if somone found how to get more power on that green shit it will be u bro u got a high level

[@rjtastic]

Nice! Flash it soon, and get rid of that fucking catalytic converter.

[@derekstegall9811]

All that power is nice but I disagree with all the rider aids and electronics traction control wheelie control and whatever else the computer does turn all that mess off and let the rider handle all that with there own skills just my opinion

[@Crfracer414]

All I wanna know is where you guys get the funding for all these bikes? And can I be your new rider if I can turn faster laps than you?

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

We are open to bringing on new riders, but we get this request often and 99% of the time there is no lap time to back it up. Typically, we only work with professionals for this reason.

[@Crfracer414]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited Most definitely could see that being the case. You guys do some amazing work. I raced motocross from 2000 till 2016 made it to 450pro class qualifying for Loretta Lynns with Millsaps and Osborne in their amateur days till shoulder and back injury setback. 34 Now & out of motocross and trying to get into the road course scene. I've always had and riden sportbikes since I was 16 as well just not alot of track time due to funding as it is at least double what motocross racing cost and was just more into moto. Skills are their, just gotta get out their to see if it is close too the guys whom have been on road course for years. You guys keep up the amazing work, I will have come by the shop to chat sometime to see these amazing machines in person soon, just found out its only about 15mins away from my house.

[@PaddleDogC5]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited talk is cheap bullshit stops where the rubber meets the road.

[@raynic1173]

@@Crfracer414 Bruh, go race WERA or CCS for a season, see were you finish, then go talk to sponsors or look for a ride. You got to prove yourself first. For that matter you can do track days at many of the tracks that they race on and compare your times. Would you qualify on the grid? Good luck....

[@screennamenottaken2]

Seems like the newest bikes are really starting to get choked off. I know it’s wishful thinking but it would be nice if sport bikes (supersports in particular) were exempt from strict emissions rules due to the fact that worldwide when compared to all other transportation, only a minute percentage of people ride them.. Hardly enough to contribute to global warming. The fun police don’t think like that though.

[@chicblair]

Why don't you just install a European ECU the restrictions that you guys have over there is crazy 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

Well, we're doing something a lot better than that. For other people, you would also need the harness and maybe the dash. We also don't know how restricted the EU ECU is or isn't.

[@anthonywhelan8373]

Remove that cat and watch the power increase all through the revs

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

The biggest hindrance is the ECU!

[@anthonywhelan8373]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited yes agree but even when I did an ecu on n my old 2010 zx10 we didn’t gain a lot in midrange and top end till the cat was gone even with an akapovic system then we gained around 13-17 hp all through the revs

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@anthonywhelan8373 that's a completely different situation, the 2010 doesn't have drive by wire. This ecu is actually closing the throttle off considerably even through the grip is at 100%.

[@supreme-hertech5995]

167 hp ? Il y'a un truck qui deconne dans la machine.

[@raynic1173]

Man, this seems hinky, there's no ECU hooked up. No rpm measurement hooked up. No sensor in the tail pipe, but you provide HP and fuel mix and no torque, wtf am I missing here?

[@andyalejandro9523]

Anyone want to be my Boyfriend 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️

[@stryanx4395]

That's no better than a 10R

[@Cobradaddy]

In the world of online videos, where anyone can upload videos, you pick the lazy approach and gave half of the dyno results! You couldn't possibly take what, 1hr extra to get the TQ numbers!? There are already full dynos of the 2021, you're not the first and getting the video out quicker is irrelevant at that point. Congratulations, your before and after build will not have the TQ difference the mods made. Video is useless, 50 other people will have both results and will get your views and subs. Take pride in what you put out there, not this effort.

[@EnviedKing]

Why even show DIN numbers when nobody on this side uses that and everybody overseas bikes are less restrictive? You've used SAE in the past for the other RR so show those numbers as a comparison because using something you haven't before is misleading information.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

For one, DIN vs SAE vs STD is not a radical change. We now use DIN for shop projects because it's the standard most of the people we work with in Europe are using. Lastly DIN reads slightly higher than SAE, so there is no effort to mislead there. We just posted SAE results, 164.9. It just further reinforces what we discussed in this video.

[@EnviedKing]

​@@SuperbikeUnlimited you are right about the dynos but a dyno sitting out in a open warehouse will read different than one thats setup properly in an actual room.

[@davidlance6539]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited you literally was too lazy to get a proper rpm signal which means your dyno readings aren't correct anyways. Then you used DIN instead of sae like you did on the other RR knowing people wanted a accurate comparison between the two. All the videos I have seen so far for the new bike were done in an actual dyno room and only 2 actually tapped the rpm signal properly yet all 3 bikes dyno'd in the 176-178 range. Hmmm weird that you're the only one and with an RR to dyno less

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@EnviedKing Dynos modules adjust for conditions and pressures. A dyno room is normally in a very slight vacuum for clearing exhaust gas and this does not make one read higher. The numbers we often see that read high like this are very often old dynos, using old hardware and PC software.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@davidlance6539 You think an RPM hookup changes the horsepower reading? Wrong. It is used only to calculate torque, we've been doing this for a long time. Please feel free to call DynoJet to verify how that works. We have already posted to our KZbin a few minutes ago the SAE results. They were under 165hp. Sorry, it's not a conspiracy, we just don't use older or inaccurate equipment that inflates horsepower numbers or egos.

[@creditrepairusa1]

So why buy these pieces of shit then if they are making it harder to tune? I wouldn't spend $25k on this knowing it's a dead stick................on purpose. And I agree. That Ape is badasss. Btw, Chris Moore dynod at 182 on MR12, but on his street ride, said it was the slowest 1000 he's ever ridden so.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

These manufacturers are under major pressure by governments to keep machinery running cleaner and cleaner. It's going to take supplemental electric motors or some other clever engineering to get around that.

[@creditrepairusa1]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited No, I hear ya. Just sux cus this should be a 180hp bike out the box with no drop off. Tuning/Mr12/bolt ons. 210 plus. Kawis' back on top again. But, whatever. And I was going to buy one, but watching these videos is a huge let down. Glad you don't care tho cus ya'll about to bust it up, but for guys like me who want a nice street bike this kills it for me stock.

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

@@creditrepairusa1 I'm sure we will find a work around at some point that doesn't cost 6k+. There are some ideas floating around the shop.😉

[@tysta2]

@@creditrepairusa1 and it is.....

[@raynic1173]

@@tysta2 He'll do it for $5K, but still can't tell you, lol.

[@user-iq7ur8zn9z]

This is not better than the zx10r. I have seen zx10r doing 180hp

[@SuperbikeUnlimited]

Not on our dyno!

[@user-iq7ur8zn9z]

@@SuperbikeUnlimited i wuld like to see a comparison on your dyno between the rr and r