2021 Middleweight Naked Bikes Shootout

[@danielharry1075]

The greatest factor when buying a sporty bike is the 'I like it'. It's that simple.

[@gti189]

Agreed I love my MT03 and my next bike will definitely be an MT-07/09

[@travatron4000]

0:00 - Dramatic B-Role 1:32 - Intro 3:25 - SV650 4:29 - Z650 6:40 - CB650R 10:55 - MT07 13:20 - Dyno Comparison 16:05 - Tuono660 23:20 - Trident

[@ntdscherer]

That's B-Roll

[@Mrtrunks]

Thanks

[@angshumansarmah6626]

🙏

[@SLAYER-nm5zw]

Thanks

[@cornishreptiles]

How much fairing can you have before it’s not considered naked anymore? #Tuonocheaters.

[@Dranreb865]

Is that a serious question?

[@blockchainshark1392]

@@Dranreb865 pretty sure by the amounts of likes it sure is and a good question And by browsing the other comments below it seems that same question is asked alot.

[@marcoleon8515]

When you point out the windshield to a tuono owner, you always get an interesting response

[@cornishreptiles]

@@marcoleon8515 if you look at an RS660 and a Tuono next to each other there is visually very little difference. Like the first image here. www.autocarindia.com/bike-news-amp/aprilia-rs-660-tuono-660-bookings-open-in-india-420033

[@bk83082]

It would be cheating if the fairings were the reason they like the bike. Also, it's a website test and they can put whatever bikes they want in it. The standard ergonomics are the reason it's in this category.

[@jfess1911]

Thanks for pointing out that the Kawasaki may be the best fit for shorter riders while the Honda may be the best for taller ones. It is appreciated by those of us on both ends of the height spectrum! Of course, very tall riders can always change class to adventure bikes, if they are too cramped on these nakeds. Sometimes finding a motorcycle that "fits just right" is more important than squeaking out the last bit of performance.

[@threethrushes]

How can one person be on both ends of the height spectrum?

[@jfess1911]

@@threethrushes Oh no! My super power has been exposed!!!!

[@RedRa7Vg3r]

I personally fell in love with the look of the cb650r and bought one. I love it. Soooo much fun and so well put together

[@kennypool]

I had a 82 cb650 I can only imagine how much fun the new one is with all that extra power.

[@RedRa7Vg3r]

@@kennypool there is a definite torque dip at like 3500 to 5k but after that the bike is a lot of fun

[@kennypool]

@@RedRa7Vg3r i don't recall that on the 82 model. It would pull all the way to redline , and beyond. Air cooled motor , was like riding a very fast oven. Trying to look cool in South Florida in july ain't easy.

[@RedRa7Vg3r]

@@kennypool yeah emissions I think is the issue. Seen yammie noob do a power commander and he said it fixes that dip

[@monkmoto1887]

@@RedRa7Vg3r it would definitely smooth it out but a flash would give it a little more on top and in the mid range along with the pipe and pair valve delete. My advice, if a flash tune is available for your bike just get the tune. It’ll run better, it’ll have more benefits than the pc like changing thermometer temp or removing low gear power limiters, and it’ll make more power than the PC. Some new bikes can just electronically delete the pair valve and servo so you don’t even need block off plates or relays. Also the ecu is going to be as easy or easier to remove than a power commander will be to install. On top of all that, some of the power commander maps are suspect. Where as a good flash tune for your bike has been thoroughly developed. I’ll never buy another power commander if I have a choice.

[@steve-wu7jp]

That SV had one of the best dyno charts 🤩

[@luislaurencio]

Dude if you put the technology on the side and just look at suspension engine sound the sv is perfect

[@Cheezmonka]

@@luislaurencio Agreed

[@timbakker7248]

I would love to see a middleweight+ naked bike shoutout (around 900cc)! So many great models in that range available right now!

[@paintup46]

@ 12:27 is the damn blinker falling off? Right as he says “the mt07 feels cheap to me” lol.

[@alexp6409]

Noticed the same thing...

[@MrB590]

Built on a budget

[@monkmoto1887]

That was the biggest problem with the mt series of bikes. They all feel cheap. The bars feel like thin soft metal and I bet you can bend the bars on an mt10 significantly just pulling on the bars

[@henryslager9406]

@@monkmoto1887 Damn that’s bad

[@shahabaz.maharoof]

Don't know why yamaha chose this design over the previous one, But love that cp2 engine but sad for that looks. Why yamaha why?, keeping trash plastics on that beautiful motor 😐

[@8765daks]

Would have liked to see the Svartpilen and Vitpilen 701s in this comparison.

[@TheMrSandMan11]

unfortunately I believe they have been discontinued

[@danytheunicorn95]

they would be number 1 easy, torquier than the MT07, prettier, amazing chasis, suspension and motor. Only downside is reliability

[@danytheunicorn95]

@@TheMrSandMan11 Damn! you´re right. it´s shocking to me but I guess smaller bikes sell better now because of the license and taxing restrictions :(

[@8765daks]

@@TheMrSandMan11 That's a huge bummer, but you're right. If I were looking i'd hunt down old new stock or even lightly used over the bikes listed. They are super original and just a blast to ride.

[@Arthurzeiro]

@@danytheunicorn95 "Only"

[@timlee2237]

I'm a new rider and it seems as if the Trident knows my skill level and has decided not to kill me. this has been a great bike to learn on

[@chris5k132]

Such a nice bike.

[@jackgirote9132]

Thats why I bought mine. It has inspired alot of confidence in me since day one. Its my second bike. I didn't want to get something to intimidating.

[@timlee2237]

@@jackgirote9132 I was in the wet today... tires are amazing and the rain mode got me out of a potentially slippery situation.

[@jackgirote9132]

@@timlee2237 The Michelin road 5's are the best rain tires on the market. The TC has saved me in corners with gravel that I didn't see when riding at night. The ABS does save you from locking up the rear wheel as well.

[@CorePathway]

The Honda is 2 bikes in one - a pussycat around town, light clutch feel. But when you can wind it out your butt will pucker and it will take surgery to remove your grin.

[@Tiax776]

SV 650 needs better brakes and LED lights & indicators. Then Suzuki could sell it for the next 10 years without too many changes... Just put the GSX-S 750 front end with upside down forks on it and those brakes... Just a hint, Suzuki...

[@MH5tube]

I mostly agree but damn, I am ride or die for that round headlight

[@traviswrigg5158]

It's so frustrating that the SV650 just needs minor updates to be amazing, but Suzuki just refuses to make them. It's without question my favorite engine of the bunch, and if they wanted to they could produce a version with more refined suspension than the MT-07 and basically take the fight to Yamaha with the MT-07's biggest flaw, but Suzuki is extremely dedicated to resting on their laurels. Only the Hayabusa has gotten any interesting attention from the company lately. I'm starting to think I feel the same way about Suzuki as I do Harley Davidson. I really like the bikes, I just think the board of directors has their heads so far up their own asses that they're dooming the brand through inaction

[@scottwittla]

@@traviswrigg5158 I would have bought an SV650 if it had LED lights and an updated dash (and maybe a USD fork) but I went with a Trident instead. Your analysis is pretty spot on.

[@BirdArvid]

@@traviswrigg5158 The things is, though, that the basic package has so much potential with the heart of the bike; the engine/chassis is so good, that I'd argue you can take the SV very far indeed, with upgrades as you go. An old gixxer front end, a new rear shock, and boom; you have a lovely motorcycle!

[@traviswrigg5158]

@@BirdArvid If I weren't already eyeballs deep in a project involving a harley sportster I'd probably go out and get an SV650 to do something similar to what you're describing

[@BS32768]

Great comparison! Good to see all the reviewers name solid preferences instead of saying 'all these bikes are good - different strokes for different folks'. Watched too many old videos that ended like that.

[@Dranreb865]

Unless its kevin duke who will take a ktm duke always cos its named like his

[@BS32768]

@@Dranreb865 I mean, how can you not, with a name like that? :)

[@21broadway]

I just like the way that Honda looks so much

[@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist]

It is a nice looking bike, and it photographs well, too.

[@kenmier9789]

Exhaust runners a beautiful throw-back to the CB 400

[@izzy8609]

@@kenmier9789 which part of the world calls headers runners? genuine question cause I've never heard that term before.

[@kenmier9789]

@@izzy8609 USA - probably a forgotten term.

[@LexingtonDaniel]

Would have liked to see how one of the Husqvarna 701s fell among this group.

[@JackS55555]

Definitely… and the duke

[@1990-t1j]

@@JackS55555 There isn't a Duke 690 now.

[@monkmoto1887]

Probably on its side I’d guess

[@jimbo1485]

@@1990-t1j they still have the 690 smcr, Just not the 690 duke

[@jimbo1485]

Would have done very well in the tight stuff

[@shmac96]

So naked middleweight also means faired?

[@Thunderbr3wn]

Must have been neat to have all of them back to back like that. The 650 class is really strong right now, there really aren't any bad bikes here. My favorites have are the Honda and the Triumph.

[@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist]

It was fun to have them all. Since we used my house as the starting point for our test loops, my garage was overflowing. Because I love this class of bike, that was a very good thing.

[@billallen4793]

@@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist you guy's have a dream job! Great comparison with the bike's...from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe

[@thinkdunson]

KTM are missing out, not having a bike in this range. i have an sv650, and i absolutely love it. i just bought a z900, and i absolutely love it too. the sv has that "doesn't care how fast you're going" quality. until around 100 or so, where it kind of starts to peter out. but it's perfectly happy going fast or slow. the z900 on the other hand wants to go fast all the time. don't get me wrong, it's smooth and rock solid going slow, but that engine is a damn demon. for me anyway, coming from an sv. the z has nearly twice as much power. you have to have a lot of self control to not just whip through traffic at all times. it's always whispering in your ear how easy it would be to go twice as fast as everyone else. and it's smooth as silk all the way to 150. but anyway, i bought my sv brand new in 2018. it's got about 70k miles on it, and it's still ten tons of fun. no exaggeration... if it had another couple ticks on the tach, i could be happy with it forever, but i wanted more so i got the z900. and good god does it have more. i feel like maybe i'll eventually get that triumph just to have something that's not begging me with every fiber of its being to go 120+ all the time.

[@maximesauve112]

yeah I had an SV as my first bike, both a 2011 speed triple after and now im looking at that trident wondering if it might keep me alive a bit longer lol

[@billallen4793]

Well done sir 70,000 miles on the sv...from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe

[@boytubing33]

The Aprilia is not a naked bike, but it would be good to compare it with the R7 once it's available.

[@MrRui33333]

aprilia tuono is not a naked bike ?! ,....kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ,.. yes , it is ,... ,kkk rs 660 aprilia compare a yamaha r7

[@andreasfalt8691]

I really like the Honda and am actually surprised it didnt win the comparison. Those three finalists must be amazing!

[@Cruiser203]

The Inline 4 doesn’t have much character compared to the other bikes here

[@jeffreydiaz7833]

Sv650x is hands down the best beginner bike i have ever rode, have a 2019 and love it.

[@kugangles9860]

I had a 1998 SV650s way back when I started riding. Great bike.

[@frenchtoast-d7u]

The Aprilia doesn’t really make that much sense to me. The price throws it right in with the likes of the MT-09, Street Triple, Duke 890, Z900, the new Monster etc., but it doesn’t have the power to compete with them. And then there’s the electronics which, although nice, seems a bit over the top for a bike with sub 100 hp and probably makes the bike more expensive than it needs to be.

[@Stratocasterhead51]

Aprilia priced themselves outside of their category. They should have cut the electronics out and slashed 2k off the bikes price. It would still be at the high end of the 650 class, but it would actually compete price wise. What these reviewers dont seem to understand is that a customer will look at price above all else. You cant realistically compare the 660 with the other 650 class bikes when it costs more than a zx6r…

[@frenchtoast-d7u]

@@Stratocasterhead51 Exactly. ABS and a simple TCS with 2-3 settings(+”OFF”) off would be plenty. The electronics on the Tuono 660 is overkill for a bike with “only” 95 hp.

[@cnote678]

"Rambunctious around the house" 🤣 hilarious as always! Great content, and thank you for this "public service"!

[@eliteengineerdaz]

SV650 all day for me. The fact it's still competing with these new bikes speaks for itself.

[@patricksandeberg8184]

Excellent review guys! I've been waiting for this one!! 👌🏽 The Swedish part of me wishes that the Husky 701 was part of this gang🤙🏼

[@cammo4000]

No longer sold in USA for 2021

[@patricksandeberg8184]

@@cammo4000 Whaaaaaat?! Dang!

[@Uninfluenceable]

@@cammo4000 the 2021 701 supermoto is still sold in the US, but for over $13k, that's a hard pass when you can buy an SWM SM500r (also a Husky) for half the price..

[@lovelessissimo]

@@patricksandeberg8184 they are being sold everywhere.

[@patricksandeberg8184]

@@lovelessissimo I meant the 701 Svart and Vitpilen. Not the SM or Enduro. Does are to expensive 😉

[@mindspinn311]

Proud 3rd generation SV650 owner here. Definitely deserves better than last place considering it beat out the FZ-07 in a 2017 comparison from another magazine, but yeah it was almost obsolete the day it was introduced. Still a great bike though. I do miss the torque of the MT-07 engine and that bike is more comfortable for me, so I may end up with a second gen one of those soon. Definitely need to test ride the Trident and Tuono.

[@ddbhaha1529]

For Tuono 660's price, you can have GSX S1000... What would you choose?

[@kronikinsomniak]

The GSX is such an insane deal for a street naked.

[@marcos1669]

Depends if you want to brag about your bike power or you want to actually ride the bike

[@Fearless154]

It's a different bike for a totally different type of rider. While power is nice but the tech and chassis are superior on the rs660 or tuono 660 it'll be much more want to ride them on the canyon roads or the track. Also, there is a unique feeling of owning an Italian bike.

[@kronikinsomniak]

@@Fearless154 You are way overhyping the 660's chassis. Its solid but its not a step above. The GSX has a full aluminum twin spar frame.

[@Fearless154]

@@kronikinsomniak It's much lighter and more compact chassis. Rs660 handles much better. I've ridden 2019 gsxs1000 and rs660 you cannot compare the bikes, gsxs1000 is a sledgehammer and rs660 is a fillet knife. I do agree that gsxs1000 is one of the best bang for your buck bike but you don't buy italian bike if you seek the best bang for your buck, you buy italian bike if you want peak performance and a lot of bells and whistles on your bike.

[@scottclark8658]

The Aprillia is not priced in this group its priced in line with street triple rs and 890duke r

[@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist]

Thanks for your comment. We chose to define middleweight bikes by their displacement, like most people do, so it fits just fine. That said, the Tuono is neither fish nor fowl when it comes to categorizing it

[@sonkaldo]

Agree why on earth put that bike in.

[@Stratocasterhead51]

@@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist People who shop for bikes look at price more than displacement. If a tuono 660 is similar in cost to a z900, a ktm890 or a mt09 then thats what you should compare it with. Aprilia decided to go full yolo when it comes to electronics and priced the bike OUTSIDE of its category. Let them live with their mistake and compare it to what its price dictates it be compared to.

[@TheRausing1]

I truly believe the sv650 is by far the best looking of this group... I don’t know why, I just love the design. It looks very timeless and solid to me.

[@shingod700]

I bought a 2016 FZ07 3 years ago for my wife, paid 4k$, 5000 miles on the bike, full dyno tune, akrapovic exhaust, frame slider, spool, r6 throttle, floating tank bag, puig windshield, heated grip, led blinker, fender eliminator and couple other goodies. For the price, the fun factor is hard to beat and the sound is amazing.

[@Mech.E]

Nowadays they go for ridiculous prices new and 2nd hand

[@lucasszymanski114]

I started riding this year on my first bike, the FZ07. I love that bike, I did loop it but I really love riding it as I grow into it. I do prefer the look of the FZ07 over the updated MT07 version and the lack of a slipper clutch I do believe helps me become a better rider.

[@tseejmuas]

Not to my surprise. Aprilia already had recalls on the 660 engine.

[@kugangles9860]

There are always bugs to work out for new engine design first year bikes for most manufactures

[@tyranid05]

I gotta say I just started following this channel and John Burns speaks a lot of wisdom that I think the other stars don't necessarily have the age to appreciate what he's saying

[@arnoldis24]

How is the Aprilia naked?

[@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged]

Some of these things belong together, one of these things is not like the others

[@kiv2193]

The Arpillia isn't really a sport bike though , look at the riding position and handle bars, it rides like a naked.

[@shirshanya]

​@@kiv2193 sounds just like the ducati supersport then

[@jamievidd775]

Had an ‘06 SV650. One of my favorite bikes ever. You can upgrade the suspension if you wish. That engine was so good.

[@glenndeason]

Thank you so much, I love these comparisons! Can you please do more of these? Like the supersports or the other naked bikes. Thanks again!

[@pistolpete6321]

Fantastic video guys, spot on analysis and great insights on each bike!

[@MaverickAus]

The Aprillia is a naked bike?????

[@Fearless154]

There are two of 660 bikes. RS660 is fully faired sport bike and tuono 660 is a naked version.

[@MaverickAus]

@@Fearless154 the one in the video, doesn't look like a naked bike

[@Fearless154]

@@MaverickAus The Tuono family from Aprilia always had faired front and smaller windscreen. They don't look like your typical naked bikes from the first glance but they're in fact naked bikes the engine is not covered with fairings and they have handlebars instead of clip-on.

[@Trotter13]

I'm sorry, the Tuono is not a naked bike. They can say it is but I can see it ... I get comparing similar cc bikes but there has to be some bracketing beyond cc number. There is 30% swing in price here ... Keep it up guys, good effort, good idea, poor selection.

[@Everendlesss]

What a lineup. This is definitely a cool segment of bikes to choose from. My first bike is an R3, and I cant wait to step up the game. Cheers.

[@jamesdarnell8568]

Good comparison. But I am not a mainstream rider. I'm pushing 70 and don't ride aggressively in the twisties anymore (I like a nice relaxed ride). I am 5'-10" but seem to be getting shorter every year. I don't need the most power but I appreciate torque. I don't care what my bike sounds like. So it's the Kawasaki Z650 for me. Love the slipper clutch and the large TFT display. My second bike would be a Triumph T100.

[@JDeezle21]

SV650 have a nice old school feel and plenty of aftermarket parts

[@Sheltemz]

picked up my Trident 9 days ago, in love!! haha

[@lacix22]

Love the heroic music….LOL. Its like you are actually doing something

[@kleinbottled79]

John Burns does a good 1.5x imitation. 😉

[@jackgirote9132]

I love my Trident. The crystal white Trident really pops btw (I own the crystal white trident). I've kept and eye on this bike since its official press release. So glad I pulled the trigger on one. No buyers remorse here. Not to many complaints when its only $9K out the door here in the USA. Its a great all-rounder.

[@-JSLAK]

34:12 whats the name of the epic music? Edit: it is Edgar Hopp - Army of Angels

[@czierwo]

Lovely machine Trident. Never thought I will ever say anything like this about Triumph. Always struck me as an old man motorcycle brand, but they do kick ass nowadays with Daytona and Speed triple in their line-up!

[@agentchodybanks9120]

Daytona & Street triple have been out for 15 years

[@pookguy88]

no KTM?

[@maximesauve112]

the 690 dosn't exist anymore in the North american market

[@dsofe4879]

I own the Honda, it really packs a punch once you get above 9000 rpm, but doing so requires basically never leaving 2nd gear and always seems like kind of a chore. Riding it hard is always a bit of a hectic experience. It's super fun and sounds fantastic, but I think my next bike will be an XSR 900, I definitely want more mid-range torque.

[@ogummyo1022]

Time for an updated video in the Super Naked category as well?

[@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist]

And skip the Light Heavyweight nakeds?

[@ukurtlele1494]

@@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist So many categories, so little time...

[@Krezo200]

What is a slipper clutch?

[@MichaelTodd-tq8dk]

MT 07... You showed the graph, but failed to mention... The HP - which was, from idle to about 8K on the tac, the best. The Yamaha had the same advantage in HP, visible in the graph, as it did in torque. I would take it over the rest of these. No disrespect. I would even prefer it over a Hornet or GS-8, though both seem like excellent bikes. That said... A T7 or XSR700 would be my preferred way to get that engine... Possibly, a Fantic 700. SV... Mad respect for that bike and the old V-Stom.

[@whitedevilvaz]

So all the points mentioned for triumph being 1st (suspension, brakes, tech, display, etc) the tuono have them better. But triumph ended up 1st. Lal

[@TK-cl1jm]

Thaiumph fanboys.

[@jonasbaine3538]

Would 701 svartpilen place 1St?

[@matthew5684]

what is that red alpinestars jacket

[@capngeo2002]

Rode a 2017 FZ-07 on The Big Island. Too much fun and that engine! I would pay the MT-07 SP price. Rather have it than a MT-09 SP. Or new R7 chassis/suspension updates on a naked. If I were going to spend the $$ on Aprillia I'd get a KTM/890/R or a MT-09/SP. Triumph sounds great but not into its look and I despise those floating back fenders. Hard to disagree with these pros. My favorite review, recently.

[@CraigSmith568]

Yamaha needs to put the suspension off of the new R7 on this bike.

[@msj5997]

True. I am not sure about R7. But if Yamaha upgrade MT07 with the suspension and brake from R7, it would be perfect!

[@CraigSmith568]

@@msj5997 The R7 is just a bit too aggressive of a riding position for me. Looks good though.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

Too bad my new street triple 660 s was ruined in 2 weeks, and triumph is taking no responsibility . Guess the warranty is just for show. Over heating, ticking, randomly shutting off while riding, not starting.

[@frankmalone8389]

Sorry to hear, I had a tiger explorer 2013. Had same issues...really liked the bike, but engine sounded like a bag of nails when hot. Ill never buy a triumph again.

[@davidleonard8369]

These ass hats have the nerve to call the Yamaha cheap looking yet don't bother to mention that the triumph is actually cheap. Made in Thailand.

[@Cooper2007ish]

Great video. I greatly appreciate them in time and hard work that goes into these longer large comparisons. Keep up the good work.

[@billystylish]

Anybody know what model Troy's Alpinestarz jacket is? Thank you 🙏

[@raiseinets3759]

Ranking on the website is different from what on the video. At least for the 4th and fifth place. I love the cb650r though.

[@c0c0asauce]

Looking at the Triumph Trident's Dyno graph, that is the one I want. If that tip up right before the redline is honest then it has to be the most rewarding to rev out.

[@Sheltemz]

its awesome, has no flat spots, quite happy to glide away in 5th at 30mph

[@Firestorm637]

Trident. Premium bike. Triple is a great engine. Love underbelly exhaust

[@victorherrero4790]

Great bikes. The best of this battle: Best overall: Triumph Sporty: Yamaha Value: Suzuki. Period.

[@nicolascampe8101]

I have the cagiva raptor 650... I still feel this one can compeed with all of these bikes.

[@curtn7076]

1Triumph, 2Yamaha, 3Suzuki.. because if the engine don't have torque..that can't be fixed...that's a deal breaker for me.

[@Fearless154]

I don't know whats the deal with flat spot on the US bikes. I've ridden the european rs660 and the powerband is silky smooth and progressive I didn't find it lacking like cb650r. You can totally fix the flat spot with ecu flash and breathable pipe.

[@curtn7076]

@@Fearless154 to certain degree you can slightly improve low torque engines with a reflash ..but it has more to do with Cam profiles and the engineering ... So you can't change that easily. Easier to fix suspension w new springs...

[@Fearless154]

@@curtn7076 The torque is not an issue on the 660 engine but the flat spot is in the middle of RPM which is the restriction in the ECU. it is a nice and grunty engine with a smooth powerband.

[@Fearless154]

@@curtn7076 I agree about mt07 but I don't know why they're saying the trident is torquey. It feels similar to rs660 but the trident engine revs so slowly. You must down shift consistently to keep the power going if you don't it will take a while till it revs back into the powerband, If you're not on point with your shifting you'll struggle to ride it on the canyon roads. Test ride both bikes back to back you'll see.

[@defragdisk]

You can use sprockets to manupulate that actually

[@hezrimustapha6906]

Ryan has issue with having to bend his knee more in the Kawi... Yet, one of his favourites CB650R has even much more bended knee angle..

[@DanielUnk]

Where is the suzuki s750?

[@kbeightyseven]

I’m a big fan of the triump trident, but I do think Yamaha need to make an mt07 sp, with decent suspension

[@gigi9467]

Am guessing that to have a semi relaxed freeway jount of say 70-75mph you need a 650cc+ right? Ive ridding harleys for too long and now with kids i dont want to spend that much money but i Don’t want the bike to be screaming bloody murder when I’m doing 70-75 on the freeway what are you guys think

[@ahmedshahab4105]

I'm in love with the CB650r

[@skylark17]

why start the thing with the sound of a harly its a different kind of thing compared to this

[@A_Wolf]

Can you do a comparison of the r7, ninja 650, cbr 650, and rs 660?!

[@organichotdog3807]

My 2017 SV650 is a great motorcycle, and quicker 0 to 60 than the Triumph (according to a test by some Austrian KZbinrs). If you are going to rank these bike by how new they are, then ok, the SV is 6th. But I've ridden an FZ-07 and the torque is annoying when you first twist the throttle. I like my SV more and more each time I ride it. My legs are too long for the Z650. The Honda, I don't want to rev the snot out of a bike to get to the power. The Aprilia, that's a lot of money for a flat spot.

[@1990-t1j]

If the SV had the immediate shove of the MT, it would be the perfect bike. Torque could never be annoying.

[@organichotdog3807]

@@1990-t1j Lots of torque is great, but it came on too abruptly, at least it did on the FZ-07 I rode for 3 days. I don't need all the torque at 2% throttle. Hopefully they improved it. If I were to buy a 2021 MT-07, I'd definitely replace that ridiculous looking headlight. But honestly, I would not sell my SV and replace it with any of these bikes. There isn't a big enough performance difference.

[@1990-t1j]

@@organichotdog3807 I like immediate torque because I used to ride an R1100GS and still have a Buell Ulysses.

[@monkmoto1887]

60mph isn’t that fast and these bikes are close enough as such that the one that’s fastest to 60 is the one you can launch best and wind out 2nd first on. 0-60 is a dumb stat for bikes especially over 600cc

[@craiggraham2638]

Australia didn’t get the full power Trident - they only got the restricted LAMS learner edition (54hp).

[@lovingmylifeasIage6741]

Watching this and the development of humans at the same time proves that evolution is still strong.

[@tonyhewitt1345]

Excellent review guys. Great production too

[@helgejohan3604]

I tried Tuono 660 , got a lot of grunt 🔥and feels a lot faster then M07😎

[@ntdscherer]

These guys have way more experience than I do, but if you're trying to power out of a corner and you're waiting for the power to come on, why didn't you just shift down going in?

[@DukeOfTwist]

Why was the KTM Duke 790 not considered a Middleweight Naked?

[@nithinjacob7455]

Been waiting for this shoot out for years!!! Thanks guys

[@ahmedshahab4105]

What about the MV Augusta Brutale 800?

[@rolan2dr]

Hmmm KTM? Not in price range of this comparison?

[@paullong1472]

Great to see a review of the 650 class, I was surprised that you put the Trident first as I would consider it to be the least practical bike in the test. If you are using the bike for commuting, where do you carry your lock ? No where to put a bit of luggage for a weekend away, I don't think you can fit a top box. The Honda would be my personal favourite but I'd have the Aprilia if I could afford it.

[@jackgirote9132]

Hey man. You are right. No cargo room at all. I bought a 20L Kriega bag. You can convert it between a tail or a tank bag.

[@Martini3g]

CB650R for me. 4 banger + that look

[@sritejarasa5775]

Why no one is talking about reliability ?

[@Fearless154]

Because you can only test reliability by owning the bike for few years. Also, today european bikes are just as reliable. I've aprillia for years now and the bike is more reliable than the japanese bikes I used to own like zx14 and gsxr750.

[@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist]

During the month we had these bikes, they performed reliably.

[@MH5tube]

does that Z650 look dreary or what

[@bencappello5324]

How does a 701 stack up in this category?

[@luislaurencio]

If its just a weekend thing maybe use it once a week putting 2000 miles a year i would tske the triumph but if i am going to use it a lot it has to be either the mt07 or the sv650. In my case i would get the mt07

[@b.t.2795]

My favorite class of bikes. Thank you!

[@markhoward3803]

Why is the right turn signal on the Yamaha MT-07 bent down. It's looks terrible!!

[@johnburns8956]

our bad, we broke it.

[@cassin11]

Please do the new MT-09, Monster, and 890R shootout. These 3 are really close. On the market to get one

[@kleinbottled79]

Good one guys. Like the format.

[@soilsmanadv6673]

Why don't you put common tires on all of the bikes to level the playing field? Tires make the bike!

[@Blottski]

I don't know why, but the music gives me serious LoTR vibes like these guys are about to battle a massive army from the seat of their trusty mechanical steeds.

[@viralengine908]

It's funny. I live in a country with not a lot of wide open roads and traffic conditions are really chaotic, and reviewers loved the peaky nature of the cbr over the Trident since those kind of bikes are less common here, and the KTM singles dominate

[@TheHuggmg]

So...the KTM 790 Duke R doesn't fall within the parameters of middle weight Naked bikes. Pretty much means, it's the redheaded step-child since the 890 Duke R arrived....lol

[@rolan2dr]

These roads are so beautiful!

[@richb5248]

Why is the Tuono660 in this shootout. It’s not what a naked bike should look like.

[@oneplus8603]

Why no KTM in this ????

[@patrickcallahan2885]

For me, all of these bikes are close to that “My First Big Bike” type motorcycle. The outlier being the Aprilia, as it is priced beyond the others. So one has to ask, with these bikes in order to make them better, it requires maybe a suspension upgrade, or a retuned ECU, or better brakes/lines, or even better tires? But at this level, is that even necessary? It seems to me, these represent a stopgap on the way to a super naked.