That's definitely the best video I've seen that explains the controls and features of the Forester. I wish all salesmen knew their stuff as well as you do. Kudos!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sylvain!
@auntginny19 күн бұрын
OMG! I have been driving my car for almost a year and had absolutely no clue what most of those buttons did. 😂 I should have known as a retired educator that you needed to type in the words " Subaru School," in the search engine to find your wonderful video. You are an incredible instructor! Your pace was perfect and you explained everything so well that anyone could understand it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ ⭐⭐⭐⭐
@alexpmo19 күн бұрын
@@auntginny thank you! Happy I could help make things easier! 😊
@duanedickerson13722 жыл бұрын
We recently purchased a Forester Sport. Ours is exactly like the one in this video. Black, but the 2022 model. This video helped me to understand in layman terms, the awesome features my car offers. Thanks for helping me understand my "black beauty". She's my first Subaru, but definitely not my last.
@joey20112 жыл бұрын
Just picked up my first Subaru Forester Sport 2022. This is exactly what I needed to see to learn all the buttons. Very informative thank you so much I love my Subaru and all the safety features it comes with.
@opin2u2 жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of these videos and this one is my favorite for the Forester Sport. I put a down payment on a new 2023 last month and I cannot wait to drive it this winter. As a first time Subaru owner it's nice to get a great explanation ahead of time instead of being lost halfway home forgetting what the salesman said due to my excitement. Thank you!
@TheRenaissanceAmazon Жыл бұрын
I'm about to purchase it. How are you enjoying it?
@ryan5089659644 Жыл бұрын
GIVE THIS MAN A RAISE!!!!!
@danielkacvinski73473 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I bought my Forester Sport back in March and drove it from NJ to CA. The dealer usually gave a two hour instruction on how to use everything but I had to leave before that happened. This video is exactly what I needed and very well done.
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel! Happy it was helpful for you
@garyboudreau28722 жыл бұрын
Has any one towed a small er boat with a forester??? I have a 12 foot aluminum Jon boat that I would considering towing now and then if others haven’t had problems…. Total weight boat and trailer and engine is under 800 pounds
@jamessmith63632 жыл бұрын
@@garyboudreau2872 I haven’t just got mine but they have a towing capacity of 1500 so you should be more than good, that’s what I’m planning on doing with mine
@E.R.Schnaben2 жыл бұрын
Your natural delivery, and ability TO deliver all this information so adeptly, made this video easy to watch and learn.
@RedHeadsRising3 жыл бұрын
Just brought home a brand new Forester Sport video today. This video was very helpful. I would another video that covers each or the different settings that you can cycle through using the up and down arrows. Thanks!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
I’ll work on that! Waiting for another forester to arrive so I can work on more videos
@frankkirschner Жыл бұрын
Brought a 2023 Forester with the sport trim home yesterday. This video really facilitated the transition from a 2005 Altima to the high-tech world of my new Subaru. Thanks.
@hello_squirrels2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just purchased the 2019 Subaru Forester Sport and this video explained so much to me! I was driving a 2005 Subaru Forester prior and I didn't get to sit with my salesman to have him teach me all the new features. Thank you for this video! :)
@alexpmo2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@RR-ie5ll Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video. We bought a 2023 Forester Sport and love it!!
@happyhome41 Жыл бұрын
Echo the other comments on a superlative video - content, comprehensive, pace, completeness. Well done.
@tracieandthemachine Жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve had my Sport less than a week and you’ve answered all my questions! Thank you! 🖤🧡
@hellimat2 жыл бұрын
just took delivery of my Forester sport - navy blue just like the video. I love it. This video was great and helped a ton with all the buttons - I'd much rather watch a video than read the book.
@alexpmo2 жыл бұрын
Same here! 🤣 Glad you found it helpful
@sjorlando72823 жыл бұрын
I had a 2019 Sport andjust replaced with a 2021 Sport (dont ask). Only thing I did was have the calipers painted to match the Orange Striping. High Temp Chevy Orange matches perfectly. Made the vehicle stand out. MGP Caliper covers now has the 2019- and up colored covers with the Subaru logo on them. The only thing I wished the sport did was have the swivel roof rails like the Outback that can turn to become cross rails for a cargo carrier.
@debbieroper8743 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. Purchased new 2023 Forester Sport 12 days ago and still learning. This video was very helpful. Thank you so much.
@330melanie2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE this thorough video !!! I test drove a used Forester Sport today. I loved the vehicle, but the front speakers were pretty much a deal breaker for me. I REALLY want to purchase this vehicle. I am hoping that the upgraded speakers will make a difference. Your video is amazingly informative. Thank you !!!!
@rosemaryneedham21342 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just ordered a 2022 Sport trim. Looks very similar to the 2021 so your video was helpful.
@happyhome41 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you answered this elsewhere already - on the HOME screen, showing the apps, Pandora is one of them, and I’ve never seen it work. Touch the icon, and it goes into “terminal load”, as if the actual app is not present, and must be downloaded. Your thoughts ?
@rickbreitenbecher1242 жыл бұрын
I have that exact car and found the vid extremely helpful. Question: AWD is on all the time I understand, yet when I recently became stuck in a snow bank, only my front wheels were spinning and the rear ones weren't moving as I tried to dislodge the vehicle. Also, no X-mode control change did the trick, I had to be pulled out by another vehicle.
@gloria_irma2 жыл бұрын
You know on the menu option minute 12:40, how do you adjust where it says New York? It appears to be the weather? I have the 2022 Forester sport, and I'm so annoyed not knowing how to adjust that. 🙃
@jotha2070 Жыл бұрын
I HAVE 2023 FORESTER TOURING AND IS ALL THE SAME AS THIS ONE. THANK YOU FOR THE TIPS
@juancarlosfallas45353 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my 22 forester sport! First Subaru in the family and we are excited. Safety features were the selling point for us over comparable crossovers.
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Congrats Juan! 🎉 Enjoy the new Forester!
@samaritan93892 жыл бұрын
How long did you wait for it and did you like it ? Im planning to order as well. Have you faced any issue so far ?
@PatrickFischl2 жыл бұрын
Just purchase a 2020 Forester Sport used from another dealership. They had no idea how to set up any of this 😂 thanks for the run through!
@didier21242 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alexpmo2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! And thank you for the super thanks. Really appreciate it!
@nancycelestial64892 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Now i know what those buttons are for ... I ordered my 2023 Forester Sports last week. I just wish the sports comes with the steering wheel warmer because I really want that feature.
@blufish113 жыл бұрын
Taking delivery on a new sport in 2 days. I’m a cyclist and got the stock hitch 1 1/4” and Kuat nv 2.0 bike rack. Wish stock hitch had 2” option for better hitch accessory . Could have gotten aftermarket 2” but didn’t want anyone messing with the install so new! Your videos are extremely helpful. Do one on trailer hitch!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and I appreciate the video idea! I’ll add that one to the list. You’ll be pleased with the kuat rack! 👍
@raymondgrose9118 Жыл бұрын
I have had my 2023 Sport for three weeks. After watching this video I will have to pop outside & try a couple of things I just learned about. The Australian model is a little different to the one featured here.
@mk.3925 Жыл бұрын
Been looking all over for a video like this, thank you for the info. I even saved this video to watch it later when i collect mine from the dealership
@737Parkie9 ай бұрын
Just bought a used 2022 sport with only 6k miles. Thanks for the tutorial!
@truewoodwerks Жыл бұрын
Just picked up my second Subaru. Thank you for the amazing content - really helps with my decisions.
@jamessimonds44582 жыл бұрын
Being physically challenged, I really appreciate the power seat. We have the 2020 Forester premium trim. With the package 15. Because of my physical problems, I only wish we had a power passenger seat. I have a difficult time trying to enter and exit the vehicle. We actually own 3 Subarus. A 2018 base hatchback Impreza. And a 2022 premium trim Impreza sedan. I try to catch all of your videos.
@scrapbukr4life2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2022 Sport in the gunmetal color and so far I love it. Would love some in depth videos on the menus. Thanks for the great videos!
@JamesSymmonds3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've pretty much sold myself on the Forester Sport but they're extremely rare at the moment and all of the local dealers seem to be tacking on a premium. (I only see one local dealer even getting one in out of the 4 or so dealers in the area.)
@petesanrafs35137 ай бұрын
Outstanding video! Comprehensive enough without getting stuck in the minutiae. Thanks
@l.w.s29703 жыл бұрын
You do such a thorough, good review. Really top notch. If I lived near Kentucky, I would have bought my car from you there. I have learned a ton of info I was never told. THANK YOU for spending time on these.
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching and i’m glad that you’re getting value out of my videos 😊
@didier21242 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, Didier here. Very helpful videos, easy to watch and follow. I've been studying the the models over the last month, it has been confusing due to the so many differences and they seem to change them every year. I've decided to go with the Premium in the Autumn green as it will suit my hiking business and lifestyle. My dealer here in Perth, Western Australia was kind enough to allow me to try the car out for 48 hours, great customer service. It gave me the time to get to know the car and I love it. The Sports is just too loud, I want to drive like I hike become invisible. Foresters are designed for Drivers not ego's and I love that.
@lisanoele799610 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I just bought a rebuilt 2022 white sport with just under 13k miles. I love, love, love it. Thanks for confirming that I have the 24 package. Mine doesn't have the gloss black accents in the back (I think only the 23 has that?)
@brandon10762 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway to have the interior lights off when the hatch is open for camping ?Do they automatically go off? Thanks
@chialiu20673 жыл бұрын
Just got my and try to figure out all the bottoms, its was a good tutorial.... thanks . First time Subaru buyer.thanks
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@dianao70652 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these vid's on the way Subaru forester models. I have been thinking of getting a forester because of the great reviews for safety. I live in Parma OH and I have a 2013 Chevy equinox that I would want to use as trade in. I am trying to figure out the best model for me.
@alexpmo2 жыл бұрын
The Forester is a great option. I suggest taking one for a test drive first to see how you like it!
@robertknight46722 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at a few used Subaru Foresters of the current generation. I know you can turn the steering responsive headlight feature off but have there been reports of these new headlights getting stuck in cold climates? I'm just curious if there's a potential for them to freeze.
@keithb92723 жыл бұрын
I just picked up my 2021 Sport yesterday. I traded in my 2019 Crosstrek LTD. Everything is basically the same. BUT... you explained somethings that I NEVER knew even having the Crosstrek for 3 yrs. So thanks!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Keith! What feature was it that you found out about?
@keithb92723 жыл бұрын
@@alexpmo Well I never really knew what that blind spot detection button was really all about even in my 2019 Crosstrek LTD. I was scared to push it to be honest (Why would anyone turn that off? LOL) But what you also taught me was about the "AVH" braking button. The guy who sold it to me glossed over that one. So thanksagain! - Keith
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
@@keithb9272 I’m glad you’ve learned more about your new car. Enjoy your Forester!
@monlam9552 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to seeing 2023 Subaru Forester packages 15 please thank you
@lindaruhl92622 жыл бұрын
Your videos have helped me a lot as I purchased a new 2022 Forester limited. Love it too
@annmaria7463 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Bachman Subaru? My Android auto is not working so I hopped on to try and find a solution and found you. Great video
@shedder1104 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on all the i settings lower left of steering wheel? I'm not sure how to set the items. I have 2023 Forester Sport. Thx
@Doc18552 жыл бұрын
We are wanting to purchase a new Forrester Sport, but we HATE the interior colors. Does anyone know when Subaru will offer tan or brown interior in the Sport? We love the Ivory interior in our Outback. Also, is Subaru going to offer Crimson Red exterior paint for the Sport? I like the White exterior over the other exterior colors, but every new car I’ve ever bought was White with the exception of 2 and those were Red metallic.
@nancysantucci64854 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Did buy a Subaru Forrester!! Question for you...how do I put my navigation, where I want to go using my car screen? Is there a tutorial somewhere or can you help me? Crying for help please.
@antoniolopez3871 Жыл бұрын
Hi how can I add a second driver in my subaru sport,thank you for your videos are very helpful.
@johngrant1337 Жыл бұрын
egood video thanks Because of your video I purchase a 2023 Subaru Forester Sport Thank-you ( I live in Florida )
@alexpmo Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@ericdasilva1814 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I would like to know more about the sport and other button features on steering wheel.
@deecampbell5170 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Alex, I have learned a lot about my car. Love your info on Subaru forester!❤
@junhaoqiu3112 жыл бұрын
the outside mirrors is foldable?
@XxamberxX3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am currently deciding between a sport and a premium, this was really helpful!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome Amber! Here’s one I did on the premium pkg 15 to compare: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqW8iZ58eqeCiqM
@kellyhamilton4603 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the videos. A huge problem I have is not being able to change the weather location. I successfully changed it on the big screen; however, it does not change on the small screen. It would be nice if there were more weather station choices available too beings subaru is used more for outdoor activities. My Sirius pops up weather alerts, but who know from where the alerts are from and it annoyingly continues to pop up and how do you stop the pop-ups?
@russellvedia13642 жыл бұрын
Thank you I have a dmv road test in 30 minutes and I have to use a subaru sport and I dunno where any of the buttons are
@mideleon3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough. Getting my Sport in a few days! Thanks!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Enjoy your new Forester!
@chawley522 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I have a 2021 Forester Sport and learned a few new things, not the least of which was the cargo cover hidden storage! (yes, I had been stowing it in the garage) One curiosity, my Forester does not have a button for the Steering Responsive Headlights, but does have the right headlamps. Are they simply active all the time the headlights are on, without an option to turn the steering response off? Thanks gain for great content!
@alexpmo2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Christopher! I'm actually not sure about that. From my understanding, all of the 2021 Sports have the same steering responsive button. Is yours a US model?
@chawley522 жыл бұрын
@@alexpmo Hi Alex...thanks for the reply. I assume it's a US model, it was purchased in Glendale, CA.
@jdmbaby6325 Жыл бұрын
How did you set up the screen to show the lane departure and speed together? Thanks for this video
@katrichardson2133 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Was terrific ..thinking of a sport...your video has been informative..
@franksoltesz44542 жыл бұрын
Just got my Subaru forester Sport & I love it.
@MafiaMark716 Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, love your videos! On a Sport trim are there 3 driving modes (Intelligent, Sport and Sport#), or just 2? I see there are only 2 buttons but thought I heard all 3 modes were accessible.
@karlyngreaves-francis191911 ай бұрын
Love the video quite informative plan on purchasing a Forester Sport, i do hope I'll enjoy it.
@erezlahav9616 Жыл бұрын
another question is that is the yellow bar (in the same screen where it show how much fuel we have) do ?
@benilev7328 Жыл бұрын
Great video! what is the best Car Cover Compatible with Subaru Forester 2021 sport?
@cecillevillaruel90769 ай бұрын
Hi Alex. Can you fona quick tutorial on Subaru Forester 2019 reversing camera. It goes black when I reverse to a darker area ( not sunny.or when the sun goes down)
@jeanniekidd34102 жыл бұрын
We’re about to order a Forester Sport. We’re learning so much from your videos. Thank u! I liked the upgraded floor mats. Are they still available in 2022? I see all weather floor liners only. We’re also debating the auto dimming mirror package. Any opinion?
@TheFuzzyAvenger3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the information you provide! Was really helpful! Especially when I don't have a car currently so trips to the dealer were limited. That said a 2022 Forester Sport is ordered! Thanks!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful and congrats on the new Forester Sport!
@Maxheadroom372 ай бұрын
New to your channel. Do you have any information on how to replace the antenna on the 2021 Sport?
@c.b.oliver15303 жыл бұрын
Seriously considering the Sport for option level-I would HAVE to paint out those honkin orange stripes-blek good tutorial-thanks❗️
@randyexner1024 Жыл бұрын
I just bought the 2023 sport. Was wondering about painting out the orange also. Ordered the magnetic grey.
@joshc92743 жыл бұрын
Great video, Thanks! Please do the expanded menu video.
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Will do! Working on that one
@richardha90839 ай бұрын
Hi Alex, how do I know the heated mirror is working?
@leighouwerkerk34593 жыл бұрын
We just bought our first Subaru forester, great video..
@bengalerik3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Have had my 2021 for a few months and didn't even know about sport mode lol
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@davidlcolburn7745 Жыл бұрын
Alex, 2021 forester. How do I stop my headlights from coming on when my switch is in the off position?
@freddathomas25412 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I have a 21 Sport and the button to open the back tailgate just beeps and won't open it. I've tried it when the car is off and on. What am I doing wrong?
@alexpmo2 жыл бұрын
Not sure off hand. Are the doors locked?
@jdmbaby6325 Жыл бұрын
Need i for on the benefits package with my Subaru
@claytonkrieger26592 жыл бұрын
2022 FORESTER premium. with SRH headlight adjustment up
@dyan2263 жыл бұрын
I just picked up my new Forester Sport... your videos are so helpful and informative. Thank you.
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad they have been helpful 😊
@ninaprays7515 Жыл бұрын
How do you find compass on this model? It used to be on the rearview mirror but no longer
@guapisima162 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex. I have the Subaru Forester Sport 2021. In order for me to make calls using the buttons on the gear, my cellphone need to be connected to the USB. I'm doing something wrong, or there is another way? Thanks for your videos, they are very helpful.
@JonathanBlundell2 жыл бұрын
Great insights. Just test drove one today and this was really helpful.
@joannacuyugan77843 жыл бұрын
Great review, i do have a question do you know what is the small blue light in the over head console is for? You can see it at 20:28 mins of the video.
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joanna, I'm surprised you noticed that! It's an ambient light so you can see the overhead console buttons at night. It's much more noticeable when it's dark.
@joannacuyugan77843 жыл бұрын
@@alexpmo thanks! I was wondering what it is, thought it was bluetooth or something 😬
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
@@joannacuyugan7784 that’s a good guess!
@sarahm59873 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 2019 forester sport and noticed only one side of the blue was lit up. I thought the other side had burnt out or something. But here in a new car I see it’s the same. Why just the one side???
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
@@sarahm5987 Hey Sarah! Not 100% sure but my guess is that the one blue light provides enough ambient light to see the buttons.
@antonioboyce31466 ай бұрын
How does the AVH and auto start/stop work together?
@Mimi-573 жыл бұрын
Picking up my new sport in two days. This was very helpful and very much appreciated.
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Enjoy your new Subaru!
@scubalover1842 Жыл бұрын
Alex, I hope you can help me with the hatch problem on my Forrester 2021. I transport my kayak by shoving it into the back with the seats down and tie down the liftgate. But as I drive it constantly beeps, is there anyway I can turn that off?
@virginiakufta32212 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you don't have a sport, just a Forester lmt but this was very helpful
@anderacpharmd Жыл бұрын
@alexpmo I have three young children ages 5, 7, 8. I need a new car to replace my Wrangler. We have a family car (Buick Enclave-it's great!), but in a pinch, would a Subaru Forester fit three kids relatively comfortably in the back seat? Trying to decide if I could go for the Forester or need to save for something larger. Thanks.
@tribalart883 жыл бұрын
Would it be able to fit a roof tent, what weight can it handle?
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Yes, when the car is moving it has a weight capacity of 176lbs. However, when you're stopped, you have a static weight limit of 700lbs.
@tgvcfr1205 күн бұрын
Why it does not have a front parking sensros?
@IAmCool-dt3pg3 жыл бұрын
I also was told the 2021 24 package did not come with Wi-Fi hot spot. Is that true?
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Any of the foresters with the 8.0 inch touch screen display will have the built in wifi hot spot. The sport package 24 has the 8.0 inch display and the sport package 21 has the 6.5 inch display. I would check with whoever told you that. They might have accidentally confused the two packages
@ronnib42942 жыл бұрын
Does the forester Sport model also have the Panoramic sunroof or is it just a "standard" sunroof? BTW, your videos have been helping me so much on which style of a Forester to get! THANK YOU SO MUCH! 😀
@kwasidapaah8383 Жыл бұрын
Panoramic
@earlribaudo48073 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for a video for the various phone features!!!!! Very good video, I have a 21 Forrester, couldn't get a touring, no in stock, I live in Duluth, Mn., almost empty lot, but very .happy with what I have. It has all the features you just went through. Like to know more on the phone features, also tell people how they can get screen saver, I just happened to find mine.
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion Earl! I'm working on more videos each week
@spctessnc3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy, we bought one today!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome and congrats!
@minkim84783 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, I just started watching your videos this morning because I'm considering purchasing a Subaru Forester. I don't live in your state but you are so helpful and thorough, that you're making me want to purchase from you if/when I decide to purchase. Are there a lot of hassles to selling outside of your state? Thank you!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that and glad that you've found my videos helpful! I sell outside of our state often. We're in Louisville, KY. About how far are you from us?
@minkim84783 жыл бұрын
@@alexpmo I'm in PA, but I just started my search. I am considering waiting until there's more supply because the prices are so crazy right now!!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
@@minkim8478 well if the time comes and you’re interested in traveling I’d be happy to help. Nonetheless, I’m still here to answer any questions you have 😃
@minkim84783 жыл бұрын
@@alexpmo I will definitely look to see if I can purchase from you guys. You're a great representative for your dealership!
@alexpmo3 жыл бұрын
@@minkim8478 thank you! 😊
@dlg54852 жыл бұрын
I have a deposit on a 2023 Forester Sport with my local dealer and this was very helpful. Do you know when 2023 Froester production begins?
@alexpmo2 жыл бұрын
Just received word some orders are opening today at 3 pm est. not all trim levels may be available just yet
@dlg54852 жыл бұрын
@@alexpmo Thanks for the heads up! You should do a video on whatever details you have and post it ASAP. There are a lot of people who have deposited on 2023 Foresters and have no information whatsoever. I couldn't even reach my sales rep yesterday or today.
@zipporahmaisiba3306 Жыл бұрын
How much is the cost of that car?
@janrolandeulin35542 жыл бұрын
Can you do same vlog but this time for Subaru Forester Wilderness? Thanks!
@alexpmo2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jan! Here's one I made recently on the Forester Wilderness. Let me know if you have any questions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eF7IgJdjep2Nj9U
@antoniolopez38712 жыл бұрын
Hi I have the Subaru forester sport 2021,How icon know if it is Paquette 21 or 24 nobody explained that to me when I bought it.