2022 Gibson Flying V - Natural Antique

Today I look at the 2022 Gibson Flying V Natural Antique finish
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[@camshaft2112]

That guitar he is reviewing does not have the details in place and I’m not sure why, but I have that exact guitar, and it was built in 2023, and all the the flaws he is pointing out do not exist on mine. If you want the guitar, buy it. It is not a disappointment. It plays incredibly fast and is lightweight. I couldn’t be happier.

[@eaglechildkeys]

Mine too, no flaws 👌🎶 Stunning guitar.

[@Timurnator1990]

Same issues from my Gibson LP STANDARD TB 50s. Shame on Gibson

[@hamilde]

This made me recall an interesting Gibson guitar story. My musical mentor plays a very old Gibson byrdland. He has played it so long there is a hole worn in the face. One night, about 15 years ago, I was helping him pack up. I noticed he still had the receipt from when he bought the guitar new. He bought it on Dec 15th, 1959, the day I was born.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@citydrums7525]

Good story. He should have given you the guitar as a gift for your happy birthday...

[@hamilde]

@@citydrums7525 that would be nice. I think those guitars sell for thousands

[@citydrums7525]

@@hamilde Word.

[@cerisejones8061]

Happy birthday Dec 15th 2023 here and tomorrow I am gonna buy a gibson flying v

[@chrisbauer1975]

I bought the same model about 2 years are and I had no issue at all with it. Plays great, sounds great, quality top.

[@larryhaynes7298]

I so love the fact you're so brutally honest why candy coat stuff to keep other people's from feelings being hurt it's your opinion and I love the fact you stayed it

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@larryhaynes7298]

@@KleshGuitarsOfficial hell yes. Sir an thatnk you so very much for your duties in the service

[@larryhaynes7298]

@@KleshGuitarsOfficial Gibson guitars before 55 56 57 something like that we're great and then they just started to try to mass produce and overdue they should have just stuck to small quantities and maybe they'd still be fantastic sounding guitars like what you do you're searching for great sounding Woods the harmonics are going to bounce correctly off of the faceplate and off of the neck in the fretboard and it's going to sound right the vibrations through the wood to make the distorted sound of the clear sound that you're looking for you're brilliant man

[@TheMamaPowell]

I can not imagine being such a big name, charging such a big price, and sending out such low quality junk. You are not the first person I’ve heard talk about Gibson’s lack of quality control. I’ve never taken up playing myself but I appreciate craftsmanship. There is a pure art to producing a high quality instrument of any sort.

[@ACDC267]

I'm glad I saw this video. It convinced me to just go with the epiphone and upgrade the pick-ups.

[@jethrogritty3284]

I'm only 10 minutes in, and learning so much about guitars...kinda shocked by the imperfections, not only because of the price, but I always thought Gibson was first-rate...I am a total beginner to guitars-recently started trying to teach myself how to play acoustic-but to me this sounds like paying for a Corvette and getting a Chevette...thanks for the education...JethroGritty

[@6393dude]

Gibson quality has been shaky for several years now. Nowadays it seems like Epiphone is more consistent.

[@rxw5520]

Gibson QC is super sketchy. If you ever wanna buy one bring a checklist of what to look for, and play it as much as possible before buying it. Or buy from sweetwater bc they inspect everything and stand by the setups.

[@zurielfigueroa706]

I bought one also in July from Sweetwater. Mine is flawless and plays buttery. Sounds killer and smells incredible. 😂

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

yeah the smell is pretty great! Nitrocellulose Laqcuer

[@zurielfigueroa706]

Upon further inspection, I found a couple of spots in the neck where it meets the fretboard, that shows signs that the finish wasn’t curated properly. Aside from that, it’s pretty much perfect.

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

@@zurielfigueroa706 I bought a new Gibson LP JR last Oct. Mine has the same issue with the finish on the neck heel where it meets the body. The place I bought it from had a $100 off coupon and they knocked off another 100 for the finish imperfection. I used the savings to buy a MCB & studs and a new nut, because the knuckle heads at Gibson cut the G string slot too low. Now I have a great LP JR. Plays awesome, great tones and stays in tune.

[@The-Other-Jimmy]

I live in Tennessee and have toured the Gibson plant in Nashville. They use only 2 coats of finish on there new guitars. The older ones would have 5 or 6 coats.

[@superwalt2159]

Gibson when they find out Klesh is reviewing their work is like me when I turned in my 5th grade book report to the substitute teacher only to learn my real teacher is going to be grading it 😬

[@alijankhan3330]

I bought the 2019 b2 Satin Ebony with dirty fingers plus pickups and just one master volume control and one master tone control. I'm relatively inexperienced with guitars so I can't comment on things like fit & finish etc. but what I will admit fully is I bought it for a combination of both utility AND provenance. I like heavier styles of rock and the Gibson flying v has a lot of history behind it. The model I chose to go with was RELATIVELY inexpensive (by Gibson standards) and has the high gain dirty fingers plus pickups which I can make use of. So I'm happy with it.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@alijankhan3330]

@@KleshGuitarsOfficial lol please be gentle

[@walther9161]

never seen a Gibson like this. As far as Honduras mahogany… I used to build guitars in college back in 1980+ and I’d buy 2” x 28”x 6 feet slabs and now can’t find anything close. I made about 60 guitars while I was in college and now back building after 30 plus years.

[@itatane]

I wish I could have as many holidays as they allowed in the finish... I have seen kids in wood shop do a better job, to be brutally honest. (Of course, the kid in woodshop made his out of whatever wood was available, so it was something like Birdseye maple with an ebonized oak neck, finished with iron acetate. Even though the hardware was scavenged, he put his heart and soul into the thing.)

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@timruss7609]

Thank you so much for this video I was considering buying one

[@stevetodd629]

I bought one a year ago and its a fantastic guitar. Plays spot on, feels great to hold the neck. Quality is spot on. Every guitar is different from Gibson. Try before you buy and you cant go wrong.

[@CenterThePendulum]

I don’t mind the nitpicking, but you seem to revel in the negative. Like you’re sponsored by a Gibson competitor. If it’s because you’re luthier, watch how Josh of JHS runs his channel. Why did you even buy this?

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

My buddy talked me into buying it. It plays great, but yea the finish....i think anyone would agree how bad it it. Especially for this price point and reputation

[@EVH5150iii]

Don’t let Glenn Flicker see this! Great video man. You need to be picky for 2Grand! It better be perfect for 2,000$!

[@DS-nw4eq]

A lot of b**ching. It’s a hand made product. Also, let me tune down to ‘B’ and then show you how it buzzes so I have something to complain about but I’ll caveat that I’m not ‘really’ complaining. When you change the tuning, you change the string tension, which effects the neck and then requires adjustment… it’s your fault, not Gibson

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

I’ve seen other Vs with the same poor finish work. No excuse except poor craftsmanship and laziness on Gibson.

[@DS-nw4eq]

@@KleshGuitarsOfficial You ever build something ‘by hand’?

[@Klesh]

@@DS-nw4eq Absolutely - I've done complete builds using only hand tools, (other than thickness sander) many of those techniques are still used on my line of guitars over at kleshguitars.com.

[@JoeFic9997]

I’m building a V and ordered some Fishman active pickups for it When I went to install them one of the mounting screws was deformed and unusable. Quality control isn’t what it used to be anywhere it would seem

[@jenningsjennings2051]

My wife backed over my strat I had a few years back she backed over it with the car then ran over it and backed over it for a total of 3 times being ran over, got it out of the case and was still in tune if it had been a Gibson it would've been ruined. Wouldn't have a Gibson, Fender all the way

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@jenningsjennings2051]

@@KleshGuitarsOfficial no freaking way!!!!!! Ha you should add she's an ex-wife at this point but still playing the guitar!!!!!!!

[@jenningsjennings2051]

@@KleshGuitarsOfficial my name is Tyler Kirkpatrick if you need to know! I'm so excited!!!!!!

[@peterodonovan6264]

Hey mate. I've watched a few of your videos and I really appreciate the level of detail in your reviews. For something that expensive you'd expect the product to be flawless. As somebody who's looking to purchase a gibson, I've started to question whether it's worth the money. Are you able to recommend any other guitar manufacturers that provide a higher quality for the same price? Would love to see those reviews!

[@lewispotter7186]

I know it's been 11 months since you commented and you may not see this however I would highly recommend ltd/esp, they're fantastic guitar manufacturers and every one of their guitars I've played has been sublime, I think very highly of their quality control

[@TarnishedViking.]

Natural Antique finish on a new guitar? They use a time machine? LMAO 🤣Yeah man, send it back. Don't check it with a UV light, it will just make you more upset. I got the HAT, and it's Very Well made! Thank you!

[@Jay-bw3fl]

You’re awesome for putting this truth out there. Even tho it makes me sad because I wanted to buy one of these and that’s why I am here lol

[@yetimountaintrading5859]

Looks like you've went through it pretty good great job keep it up

[@thevacationvoyagers6598]

I worked there for about 3 months in the fret filing department and I left due to their crappy treatment of employees.....made me hate Gibson guitars after that....It was during the time they also got raided by government for buying and importing illegal wood....

[@Gary_28]

Great video Klesh, very honest. I used to think that Gibson were they shit and have nearly pulled the trigger on a few expensive Les Pauls but in reality as you said your only really paying for "Gisbon" logo on the headstock. I would rather buy a Heratige straight out of the old Gibson factory where there still using the same machines and methods that the old Gibsons were made, and much higher quality Instrument. And I thought you sounded great 👍 👌

[@saleseng]

That’s a pretty thorough review been looking at that model, however I wouldn’t let any of that finish stuff stop me because even with a museum quality finish, the minute you ding it up or scuff it while playing it, then all of that goes out the door anyway, so it doesn’t really bother me that much. In all honesty as long as the thing says Gibson and I can claim to have my fix as far as owning something genuine that’s it😆

[@michaelpadilla8020]

We could have had a drinking 🍸 game and gotten drunk on each time you talked about the finish..lol

[@Derflz58]

Mine had rippling on the top of fret board that lays on the neck. It looks like brush marks where the nitro urethane did not coat smoothly. Everywhere else is fine so I think I got a good one and can sand and re-shoot it easily. The grain on mine looks like a one piece compared to others so I am happy with it. It sounds raw and resonant. Sustains long and looks cooler than any other guitar. And if you can't play well it makes the best wall hanger. Chicks will dig it!

[@-Viceroy-]

Is that topcoat finished with a brush? Looks odd. NC tends to shrink when it dries. Heavy layers is a risk for a crack in the future. Also any tight insides in a curve has a risk of "lifting off" and creating a bubble/hollow spot under the coating because of shrinkage. (i know nothing about guitars, but many varnishes/lacquers/topcoats are familiar to me)

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

They do spray with using hvlp guns but the combination of way too heavy coats of lacquer combined with un-level sanding , and then buffing too soon on un-cured NC is exactly how you'd expect it to come out. Looking like a stoned high school wood shop student did it.

[@Madhattressss]

Headstock was waving at me....need to add some bondo to it.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@LeeHoMusic]

My one is 2021 and i have the same burn mark on the body just in a different spot....also the lacquer imperfections near the fretboard on the body....

[@brwilliams8899]

Heritage is still making guitars at the Gibson factory in Kalamazoo MI. To bad they don’t concentrate more on a solid body design.

[@DennnisDubeau]

The first thing you see is not the finish.. It's the brand name! 😛

[@JasonFaul]

Hey Shane! As a luthier does your instinct tell you to tear down an instrument like this and refinish it or to leave it be and just kinda play it in? Thanks for all the awesome content on both channels!

[@Klesh]

Tells me to send it back LOL. So although it’s overpriced, I will keep it for specs and measurements for future projects here at the shop. If I was a customer just buying it to play, I’d send it back.

[@mackkenamond1800]

My $3k 5A flamed maple PRS is super wavy. Cuz…the wood! You claim to be a pro, though, so the KZbinr must be the authority.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

If the wood was sanded properly, and the nitrocellulose is thin (it should be thin) then yes the finish will follow the wood grain on your 5A top. The Wavy finish here is not bcause it's thin or following the wood. It's just wavy due to poor finish sanding. Big difference.

[@BIueCat]

I’m waiting for Gibson’s response video where they critique your playing. 😉

[@Klesh]

Luckily I not a guitar player, just a builder.

[@BIueCat]

@@Klesh A good one at that. Touché.

[@mylogify]

Looks so beautiful! Nice review and good close-ups, also playing! I think I am saving for it now. I loved it. Just want to be able to play as fast as I do on ESP LTD M-1000... Hopefully it won't slow me down, since I am only 2 years into guitar at 32 :). You know I keep hearing shredder neck, shredder thin neck, satin is for shredders etc... But I am hoping this will just allow me to play solo's as well... What do you think? Cheers!

[@spcwf98]

It's cool to play fast, but it's cool to have soul and heritage. Always going to be imperfections when buying a guitar that relies on people to do the jobs that many machines do. It just depends on what you like and ultimately, what makes you happy to pick ut up and play.

[@mylogify]

@@spcwf98 I agree. Yes.

[@joaniemckinney970]

I like the in depth review. I don't think that you should skip over any of the things that are wrong. It is like when you rent a uhaul and then they inspect it when you take it back in and charge you for any dings. You should send this to Gibson Quality Control and suggest a partial refund to cover the price of fixing the problems. lol No, this is good for all potential customers of Gibson to see. That way they will be able to make an informed decision, just like your pay dirt reviews!

[@GreenMachine1975]

Man... All those finish issues are making me feel pretty good about my new Epi Korina V...

[@peildamoheath9644]

Lol your hands look giant with that fret scale. I’m sure the weight is refreshing. Drop B for buzz. Hope the heavy strings help🤞starting to sound like playing a Klesh guitar would be a privilege with such attention to detail. Your playing is fine. Easy to tell you love the guitar 👍🔨👊 keep em coming 🤘

[@anthonybrau7399]

Very interesting video Shane. You really explained the pluses and minuses well and succinct. I do some woodworking projects with hand tools. my finishes are not perfect, but...sheesh!!...that finish was terrible!!

[@spcwf98]

Picky picky picky. I actually don't mind slight imperfections. Gives it character, and that's what happens when humans make stuff. Love my imperfection ridden Gibsons.

[@GoProChicken]

In everyone’s opinion, which manufacturers that are handmade are the best quality? I’m wondering if Gibson’s rationale is that the imperfections make each one unique and not like it was made by robots 🤖.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

Although if you watch the recent Gibson videos here on KZbin, most of the process is automated. Of course they show the people working there running the machines, saying look we make "handmade guitars" , yet they're using a CNC machine to shape the necks. That's not Handmade in my book.

[@arlobrubaker]

I know there are one-offs and signature models, but why do they keep making Vs with black/white and natural finishes? I want a colorful V and can only find the three most boring finishes they could come up with. I know i could order something special, but I want to get one from a music store and actually see/touch it before purchasing.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

I think they like to keep bringing back the classic looks. I agree they could have some better choices , it is 2023 after all. Not 1970

[@nellayema2455]

I have one built during covid. It has a weird section of light grain on the fretboard near the nut that's not the normal, attractive, streaking that rosewood has. I'm sure that the piece of wood used for the fretboard would have been rejected pre or post covid. Guitars were harder to get then, as retailers were constantly waiting on stock, so I did not get the chance to pick one from the gallery as normal. It wouldn't have been my first pick given a choice, but I'm OK with it, considering the circumstances at the time--high demand and low availability. I haven't given it as thorough an inspection as you did on yours, but other than the weird grain on the fb, I didn't notice anything shoddy. I got it for $1500 from SW. TBH, this being one of the lower end Gibson's price wise, and the fact that it was made during covid, I did not expect a lot out of it except playability and sound. Here's a tip: always ask for a discount. You'll usually get one, especially if you establish a good relationship with your local shop or sales rep.

[@Turbo_Greasy]

I feel a cheap finish on that guitar isnt ideal, but in no means is it going to effect your playing our sound in any way.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

That's correct, the finish "quality" won't affect your guitar tone. However...for the price..you'd thing to get something much better.

[@PaulRoseGuitar]

Saw a brand new white SG with tiny spots of white paint on the face of the glossy black headstock.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

interesting probably overspray?

[@Vykk_Draygo]

I love V's, but I doubt I would buy a new one. I love my old Faded V, but it was worth it at the low price point (like $500 something new). And with the faded matte finish the flaws don't really matter (especially with how much I've worn off anyhow).

[@MikeMCT]

If you only play sitting down in this easy to get used to? Love my Explorer sitting down.

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

Wear a strap. Or attach a velcro strip on the bottom and drape a hand towel on your thigh and the guitar will stay put. 😉

[@ezwayto4856]

well i am not surprised at all , it's like the 2020 Flying V model 70 's two years ago at 2200 Euros/ 2000$ , wich been a FUKING DAM SHAME on all job done by Gibson, for this price of course . You want a real good old really cool gibson you better get an get an ORVILLE or a GRECO Flying V or LESPAUL one from the middle 80s to 1995 it will always be better than this dam shit !

[@MainPrism]

Idk how this got into my feed but I knew I was gonna watch in 1 minute in when you said "let's see what's wrong with it". Just one more person familiar with the fail that is Gibson QC. I'll never spend money on a Gibson and I started out as an SG guy and I still love em. But there are so many better brands that make SG style guitars I'll give my money to one of them instead.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@jonadavies]

I did the exact same thing...As soon as I heard 'Now lets see whats wrong with it" I went to full screen and enjoyed the video.

[@JustIce-u9w]

No, you are not being picky. These guitars are supposed to be made by a reputable company. In the past this would have been unacceptable, so what has happened to quality control?. Secondly, the owner should decide to oil their own fretboard, not the middleman. I’d be fuming at this point and the guitar would be sent back immediately. If people keep accepting this low standard, it will be accepted as normal.

[@MrCoyote99]

So how much more time would it have taken then to finish the guitar right? Seems it would be in there best interest. Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

If done the right way, which is many layers of finish with wet sanding and days in between coats to allow the nitrocellulose to cure, it takes about 2 weeks. I'd say they take no more than 5 days if I had to guess. If they took a full week it would surprise me.

[@Beltmaker09]

If someone wanted a Flying V what would y9u recommend if they didn’t want to go the gibson route for the same price point

[@telefoon1978]

Thank you for the review, I was in the market for this V or an explorer, but everybody told me not to buy it because the quality is BS since 2006. I played them and that is ok, but not what I expected for more than euro 2000!! My older Ibanez and Epiphones are much better quality!! I have a Gibson explorer 2008 and I can barely read the serial number😭. My advise is to buy a high end Epiohone instead of a cheap Gibson! Low price but same gear/material!

[@Rainbow9711]

Awful advice!

[@enorrishughley9222]

Personally me I don’t care about the finish as long as it doesn’t come with scratches or anything like that I feel as long as I can play it I’m good

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@msaintpc]

Fretboard edges aren't rounded and are sharp enough to cut your fingers off. Otherwise it's a beauty.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

You might live in a dry climate (in comparison to the Gibson shop where the gutiar was built), that's sometimes a reason fret end can become sharp.

[@derekdamager7928]

I am in a very similar situation with my new 2022 Explorer-Natural Antique. I hope you make a follow up video showing how you correct the finish issues along the edges of the fretboard. I’m curious if the easiest solution would be to lightly sand the neck into a satin finish… but idk if that would cloud the areas around the side dots. Please advise.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

Will do!

[@dinobravo23]

Unfortunately, Gibson is a hit or miss with their QC. I have an '18 Explorer in natural that is flawless, a '19 Les Paul Standard that is also flawless and beautiful, a '20 70's Flying-V in white that is what I would consider as very good to excellent. I had initially ordered one when they first released and the one I received was terrible. They definitely rushed it. It didnt de-gas and really smelled bad. The finish under the bridge was flaking off, the neck joint finish and along the fret board finish was not good at all. I returned it right away. I also have a '21 Les Paul Classic in cherry that I bought as a body/neck and custom built with top end parts that is flawless. Great guitar. Overall, I've been pretty lucky, I guess.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

Yeah they're all different but that's almost the problem. When a company is "hit or miss", ...it's always Miss for me. At least in my opinion, they need to fire and re-hire the QC (and finish) department

[@JohnWilson-eu5rt]

Please make a video of your fix it up job. I’d love to see the Flying V remastered by Klesh🤷‍♂️😉

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

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[@riadmiah3342]

That finish is a where the tone is

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

That's debatable, but yes i've heard people say Nitro is better than Poly , and certainly is true on Acoustic instruments. On electrics...even though all instruments are acoustic before being electric..hard to tell any tone difference between finishes. Even with passive pickups.

[@colling3449]

Why buy a guitar sight unseen and then complain it’s not how you like it? Sounds like your just trying to be “different” and hate on Gibson 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

I buy whatever comes along, and give an honest review. I don't hate any specific company, everyone gets a fair chance.

[@rokkimason4199]

Gibson is charging you "how much" for this? I can go to Stew- Mac and buy a kit,finish it myself for 3/4 less than this! In fact,that is exactly what I'm about to do. I saw a 3 pickup Vee for $265! Done!

[@bwardokc3985]

Not a guitar guy, however I'm a practical engineer. My first guess would be that the fret board may not have been properly attached to the neck before applying the finish. Edit: just a small request, could you let us see a video of you just shredding the heck out of your guitar ?

[@Klesh]

I think it’s uncured glue, and finish was applied too soon before the glue could dry properly.

[@bwardokc3985]

@@Klesh That makes sense. Thanks for the mini jam session, old metal head here, it went great with my coffee 👍

[@Klesh]

I don’t have any shredding skills - however I do have some videos on this channel playing some fast music, check the “guitar covers” and “custom guitars” playlists for that stuff 👍

[@phickleprickprospecting]

you should get your crevassing tools out and check the pits along the neck for gold.

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[@PatrickGeneLeBlancHardy]

NICE 🎸 I'm new to your channel. Thanks for sharing 📹

[@jameslanclos568]

This guitar is $8,000.00 cheaper than the Gibson '58 Korina model, which I believe is highway robbery. $10,000.00 dollars is a lot of money for one guitar, it's ridiculous. I don't know "about a third of the price", but the Epiphone equivalent of the Gibson '58 Korina Flying V ($9,999.00) is only $1,299.00. Epiphone has finally started making some decent guitars. I was thinking, why don't I spend an additional $700.00 and get the Gibson Natural V until I saw this video. Thank you for this video, I almost made a mistake.

[@jonm1544]

"The guitars were falling apart, especially at the neck joint"? Really? I have never experienced those issues and I've owned at least 20 Gibsons. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but that seems a bit dramatic and exaggerated.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

As a guitar repair guy for many years, i've seen a lot of gibsons with the same issues. Just saying what I've learned through experience, that's all

[@jonadavies]

New subscriber, great video, You had me at "let's see what's wrong with it"!! A better option is anything besides a Gibson. For 2,000.00 you should expect decent quality and Gibson has lacked in that dept. for quite a long time. They sure smell awesome but not 2,000 dollar awesome. I have stayed away from Gibson guitars for many years because of their issues but I recently wanted an ax with some P90's so I purchased a Gibson SG Special with p90's as a demo model from S W. For the price I paid I wasn't going to be overly upset if there were any finish flaws...To my surprise the finish was flawless and these P90's scream!

[@AceBambam]

came here cause of the dean V law suit

[@RussBMCSGT]

I think in 2022 people who buy Gibson’s don’t do so for the “perfection” (or lack there of) of their finishes because everyone wants their finish to eventually crack & look “aged” & “used”. Gibson has an entire line & created an entire division called Murphy Lab to emulate guitars that are much much older than they are. Most Gibson players know after 15-20yrs their finish is going to look like crap but consider it a “good crap”. I do however, think you’re spot on with the lack of time spent on “finishing” the finish but I think it’s more of a product of their own success more so than a genuine QC issue. It’s a supply & demand problem not a problem within Gibson as a whole, they can’t keep them in stock & generally don’t have the time to take to get the finish 100%. Sure, they could, but in reality I would imagine their thinking is more of “good enough to play & get it out the door because we have to ride this wave as long as possible. If we slow down it could create a gap in the market that could be the end of the high demand.” I am Harley owner too & for several years before I bought my 1st one I had always been warned about wait lists & quality problems etc, didn’t experience a wait list but my point is that waiting on stock opens up the door for nay-sayers to s**t on all of the imperfections & artificially or legitimately depending on how you look at it, open the door to slow the demand. If the market has to wait as the old saying goes “Idle hands are the devil’s playground” more & more people are likely to have time to further research the guitar they have on order & are waiting for & that could open the door for canceled orders en-mass. I guess in a nutshell you could wait 3-6 months for a 100% perfect guitar, get it & be happy or you could spend that 3-6 months researching a company who have had a long history of QC issues & entire “eras” of bad runs & entire “eras” of good runs & take the chance that what you get is garbage. I don’t think Gibson wants that gap in the market to allow people the time when what they’re putting out today is “good enough”. I hope that makes sense. If you did a Made to Measure from their Custom Shop not only will you be waiting upwards of a year you’re also going to receive something that is unparalleled in quality & Gibson just doesn’t have the history of QC to make people wait that long for their general production USA guitars.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

Yep, that's true! Gibson doesn't spend the time to create a quality instrument (for that price), and yet people buy it anyway. Good for them to churn out production, but for the customer it's kind of a slap in the face.

[@MichaelKirbyMusic86]

That's an absolutely awesome guitar but shocked it's in it's condition coming from where it has, but I do agree with with you said about Epiphone. Just subscribed to your channel

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[@alsaunders2490]

Also a repairer - my 2015 is better fit and finish than the newer versions.

[@marcopolo9622]

Your looking for perfection and your not gonna find it. Most guitars have imperfections of some sort. Fender, Gibson , etc etc .

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

Check out Martin guitars, Collings guitars, Taylor Guitars (usually) and most other brands. I don't expect or look for perfection in Gibson, Fender, ibanez and any other mainstream company because that would be ridiculous. I do like to point out flaws, and hold these giant businesses responsible though. I don't have a problem with doing that.

[@nar____]

I want this guitar, but this review is scaring me off of it

[@crsnhppr8256]

Lol😂 “So I know Gibson has shit CQ and production control… Anyways, I spent $2,000 bucks on a Gibson.” Sheesh. You people.

[@stevestormssr5492]

You look at the guitars with finite detail and that can be appreciated. You point out many things many would not see or recognize. I agree that finish is too heavy and can't look really great as such. But, why do you keep buying Gibson if they are so terrible?

[@Klesh]

So you don’t have to

[@cosciekawego9979]

Only Gibson Man.

[@guillermodelnoche]

The bubbling in the finish at the top of the neck was atrocious. I have a Custom Shop 1983 Studio Les Paul with the ever present slipping “G”… luckily it was only $400. I own a bunch of $250 Xaviere guitars from GuitarFetish and would love to hear a breakdown on them since they are phenomenal for the price.

[@clintonmaynard4889]

To me,,it's not the little problems with the guitar,,it's the price that's put on them with those little flaws,I always wanted a Les Paul,, until I got one,, their like that hot chick that you want to be seen with but nobody sees the little flaws or how unhappy you are with her,, but shes hot from 8 feet

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

haha!

[@seanparchim9165]

Now what was wrong with the finish🤣sorry had to Shane, I've had friends with Gibson's and they also had critiques about them and the price points,thanks for an honest opinion ✌️ Napa California

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[@seanparchim9165]

@@KleshGuitarsOfficial I will I'm like a day behind on videos taking care of mom but I'll watch for sure thanks brother

[@jnicholson]

Great video. I’ve experienced all about Gibson finishes (nothing positive, far worse than here even). Sadly I caught a guitar fever just recently (for a flying V to be precise). I’m trying to turn myself off of gibson for the price vs quality. I’m specifically looking for this classic V shape body rather than the more ”metal” ones. Any suggestions for a brand that would have higher quality finish even for less price who would have a classic V style in catalogue?

[@jnicholson]

PS Not really looking for Epiphone or the so called budget models

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

Not really sure. I know Gibson is "going after" other companies that have similar guitar designs. I'm sure there's some knock offs out there with the V shape but nobody specific comes to mind.

[@willbratton8978]

Bro keeps saying "thats fine".. Who are you trying to convince? Premium price for inferior products, thats not fine.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

There are things I am willing to let slide for this price point. It's not a super expensive instrument after all.

[@willbratton8978]

@KleshGuitarsOfficial letting things slide is how we get companies making record profits while cutting corners. If we dont band together well be paying 2k for Chinese guitars in no time. Companies have used the smoke screen of inflation to score record profits because customs are expecting to pay more. That shit has to stop. Buy used, drive sales down and quality will get better. Capitalism works both ways.

[@christophersalazar4605]

Send it back

[@pl3317]

25 minutes of moaning and just 2 seconds to say 'It actually plays well'. I wonder what a guitar build for.....?

[@citydrums7525]

Interesting. Some would say you're nickel and diming this guitar to death. Others might say your keen eagle eye is smoking out the flaws with your laser-like visual claws... Most people would like to get their paws on this puppy.

[@m.s.2926]

💙🤘

[@Solidsaw]

what about fender?

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

I have a couple fender guitar unboxings on this channel

[@JoshSampson-cp6go]

Shame could of been a beauty

[@sneakerjoe23]

20 minutes of finish inspecting then 4 minutes of distortion covering up tone and technique. Sounds like you’ve been playing as many months as how many guitars you have. Maybe focus on practicing more time than looking at a finish.

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

I'm not a guitar player, Im a guitar builder and repairman. Playing guitar is fun, but not what I enjoy most.

[@howd1952]

Who is this fu***** moron

[@andreshernandez9434]

Just……play………it

[@KleshGuitarsOfficial]

I'm not a guitar player, just a builder.

[@gojero732]

Wow... I did not expect this from a builder company that is so long around. It says a lot about the market and society these days. Build cheap and fast, sell expensive. But yeah, as long as people buying. In the end it is all about tze money...sigh.

[@shaneprothero3315]

I thought you sounded good myself i couldn't play a single note

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[@Bearschoice]

Try a Rickenbacker

[@emindedf0]

I will contact you to make me a guitar someday..

[@KingLoopie1]

2000? Nah.... Lotsa better guitars for that price.

[@michaelvaldez5453]

Soo the answer is No lol That’s a shame 😔

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[@mister_gibson1837]

Well.....This is Awkward.......Good thing I'm a knife maker and not a guitar player 🤣

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[@kompressahdnb]

dude. You RIP!