2022 Porsche Macan S: Less Money, More Stuff.

[@911rsr]

Can somebody explain me why this channel isnt growing? Seriously he deserves better

[@mikemaslanka3786]

I’ve had mine (2022) now for 2 months. It’s in Miami Blue and the color really pops along with the 21” wheels. Sticker was almost $92K. Here are my observations: Pro’s - great acceleration and handling especially in Sport Plus. A GTS outfitted the same as mine would have cost $6k more and I really don’t see the benefit getting to 60 mph only .3 second faster. The 360 degree camera system is really nice with its sensor that activate whenever you get close to something while parking. Also, the PDSL+ head lights are the best I have ever seen. A pro and a con is that the front windshield goes very high to the roof which provides a lot of viewing area but also let’s in a lot of light, brightness and glare. You’ll use the dash visors often. I might add a brow to help with this. Con’s - the worst of which is the tachometer and speedometer dials. Mine were standard with dark gray faces and lighter gray numbers and marks. Both dials are too dark in daytime and not easy to see the readings. A hood covers over both dials and it’s shadow makes it too dark in daytime. At night with headlights on they are backlit and look fine. If I had known this I would have paid extra for lighter colored dials. I really regret this as this issue upsets me every time I look at either dial. Other cons are limited interior storage room, front and rear camera views are wonky, I don’t like the views of the navigation screens and I wish the gas tank was a little bigger. The ACC sensor in the front grill is huge and therefore noticeable and looks like a big seeing eye! Finally I wish the horn could honk when locking the car with the fob. It would help finding the car in a big parking lot. There is no remote start feature so the fob only allows lock, unlock, rear hatch opening and a panic button.

[@jaysongauthier5152]

$100k and no panoramic sunroof? You can spec this car out really nice for around $82k . Stay away from the wheels, special paint and torque vectoring and your there.

[@cbatiau2528]

I, for one, am so happy that Porsche makes sunroofs optional (except where it doesn't in the Panamera and the Taycan, in the USA, sadly) -- because I strongly dislike sunroofs.

[@jjordan8076]

The wheels !!!! When you spec the macan most of the wheels are $5k + !!! Wild

[@edgesince84]

@@cbatiau2528 I specifically specced my 911 order with NO SUNROOF

[@ronn68]

I’m glad it’s separate as I don’t care for the panoramic. If you ever get in an accident you’ll spend days picking glass out of your hair and skin.

[@clgoptionseller]

Always get limited slip diff

[@rereichel]

Sold a 2015 S and looked around for a replacement. Nothing matched the combination the Macan offers, so I ended up with a 2021 S. Like others have said, spec your car and leave off the expensive options; the car is the same.

[@jb.8950]

Love my 2019 Macan & looking forward to a hybrid version, but Porsche Pls make the haptic buttons an option... Or allow us to specify regular buttons as a heritage option!

[@cbatiau2528]

apparently none of this is going to happen -- neither a PHEV Macan nor bringing the buttons back. I, for one, would be first in line to buy a Macan PHEV with an 18-kWh battery pack (as is now put into the Cayenne and Panamera E-Hybrids), but it doesn't appear to be something Porsche will do, sadly.

[@mg-by7uu]

Fear not all vehicles will be boring...I mean electric soon enough

[@Encourageable]

I love that orange color

[@cbatiau2528]

So glad to hear somebody besides me complaining about how removal of buttons/knobs/dials makes driving a car less safe -- because it's so true and needs much more emphasis and criticism to/of the auto industry today.

[@chrishoesel]

It's cheaper to produce all-electronic displays and controls. Not cheaper to buy, mind you, but cheaper to produce. More money in VW group's pocket.

[@spencerperro4429]

About to buy a 2023 S blue in color with the 2.9

[@leeraymer166]

Love the Macan and that color is stunning. However, 103K for this with nearly 40K in options alone is just a bridge slightly too far for me. I’d really have to do a deep dive into the options list and compare it to what’s fitted as standard on the GTS before making a decision. The GTS might actually be the better buy between these two Macans.

[@cbatiau2528]

I built my own base 2019 Macan at only about $55k USD with options, and I'm very happy with it. For $103k, I'm going for a Cross Turismo, for sure.

[@briancoleman971]

I built a pretty nice Macan S for about $72k including air suspension, most driving aids,and premium pkg. How on earth can they justify $30k in option?

[@timurhmed2958]

Or get m40i and beat every macan

[@greg5143]

I built really well appointed Macan S for $89k.

[@jimmy8693]

@@greg5143 how you liking it? or is it on order? if so, how long on eta?

[@leonana11]

I was a 2015 Macan S owner and loved that car very much. This new model makes me want to buy again. Thanks for the review!

[@senshibat8920]

Does that Orange Crush it? Like the Launch Colour Bronco Sunrise yellowish orange?

[@johnchu210]

As always, very informative video and very relaxing to watch. 👍🏻

[@suitcafe]

The base Macan rides better than Macan S. I bought both this year. Just reviewed the base on my channel in chalk. It may be the lighter weight 4 cylinder engine, but the S car is much harder, bumpier ride all other things being the same for the most part. This 2022 is not worth 100k considering it borders on Panamera territory in that price range.

[@cbatiau2528]

I weighed the S against the base Macan when I bought my 2019 base Macan, and couldn't justify the higher price for the S; I thought it lacked power that it should have with a V6 in it, and that it wasn't that much peppier than the base. The car's computer learns your acceleration habits anyway, so my base Macan is quite good at acceleration -- no complaints from this previous owner of a 465-hp Porsche. Not only does the base handle better than the S, presumably because of its lighter weight, but it gets much better gas mileage; the base really handles curves and high speeds extremely well (my main reason for getting a Porsche, in addition to being built like a tank, safety-wise, and having fabulous interiors).

[@suitcafe]

@@cbatiau2528 I agree with you. I was driving the S all day yesterday in prep for a review video I am doing on it for my channel. The base car I have, already reviewed in chalk/black with black gloss tailpipes, is just smoother better at taking road bumps & is super quick even accelerating from highway speed & more when needed. The base has Michelin Latitude HP tires & the S has Goodyear Eagle Touring. Maybe that is making a difference. I believe the Michelin to be very superior in my view. Thanks for the reply.

[@TJ-po9ol]

An air suspension in the S would ride better than a base without, if both are on the same wheel/tire

[@suitcafe]

@@TJ-po9ol could be. Very rare to find a base with AS. Periodically the S does show up with AS.

[@BurnsRubber]

The Macan S probably didn’t have air suspension. I drove an 18 SE and a 19 S. The SE with AS rides way better.

[@IamJay02]

I'm not kidding when I say this I saw your upload on my recommended before I got the notification. To be clear, I got the notification 4 minutes later lol.

[@Talasas]

The notifications system probably batches notifications rather than being instant.

[@MohammadAWaly]

Does the Torque Vectoring really add to the driving experience? Is it worth the money?

[@charleskinsley2590]

40k in options is ridiculous Please test more base level models from this company. They way they offer options is crazy but still great cars. Awesome channel motoman

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

Nobody really wants a 2.0 Porsche!

[@hadytarabay]

Perfectly made introduction!!!…. And video for sure!

[@loseerich493]

Thank you for & please continue to shout off of every soap box you can reference the AWFUL haptic appointments so many are rolling with nowadays. As you said, hopefully Audi cracking a bit on this will open the dam on 'regressing to knobs' at VAG (& beyond).

[@benbustama3430]

Motorman is the best! I have the 2017 S. Love it. This is next… Tks for the vid. Cheers/B

[@mtnvalley9298]

me too sapphire blue

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

All luxury cars should have a “Kia” package. One option box to bring six figure cars up to the standard of a 20 grand Kia

[@JRB41]

A relative of mine has a 24’ Macan S.. little over $90,000 sticker price. Loves it! He also has a 24’ 718 Boxster S

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

So is it better than the older 3.6 Turbo?

[@jjk2499]

4:43 Interesting to see that the latest Porsche Macan is employs front lower wishbone control arms from a 2008-2016 Audi A4 and a 7-speed PDK... is this Porsche squeezing the most out of an ageing platform? Surprising to see capable it still is!

[@jackrobinson3392]

Yep it’s well known that this car is a stopgap before the electric macan in the mid 2020s.

[@cbatiau2528]

@@jackrobinson3392 Macan BEV will be introduced in 2022, with sales beginning in 2023 (not mid-2020s)...

[@jgway9980]

The new GTS is where the value is. Looking forward to your review!

[@greg5143]

Won't it have the same issues as far as options? Or is there standard stuff on the GTS that is an option on the S?

[@thomasd8735]

On camera, it looks like you are driving so relaxed yet so spirited/aggressive. Are the roads easy to handle there?

[@jackinralph1]

I have a 2017 Macan S I love it but the next one for me will be the electric Macan whatever the fastest option they offer it in

[@efthimios]

How do you compare maçam s used for $70k with a X5 40i ?

[@marcussimmons2708]

That burnt orange color. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Great review!

[@IceDree]

I wish Porsche stops screwing with the Macan's exterior design. The original Macan was perfect, but they fiddling and fiddling with it. The new plastic trim in the front bumper make it look like a gaping mouth. I love the orange seatbelt though. As always, excellent work, M.

[@vladsta3833]

the old turbo is now the gts, the old gts is now the S. you get gts performance for less cost. old stock wheels on the S were not good, the new stock wheels are good, you get better lights stock. if you only spec the sound proof glass you will be fine, everything else isn't necessary

[@kenfung7459]

why the sound proof class is necessary?

[@AnonymousRaimon]

Great review! Not a fan of that piano black buttons tho, kinda like the real buttons better.

[@rosebudd5]

Hey brother I’m hoping u still do a review on the genesis gv70 3.5 I got 1 an want to hear your views on performance

[@ronn68]

Why do you want a review on something you own? 😂

[@cavalierace]

Absolutely love my 19 Macan S. So glad I dont have the haptic feedback. It was the perfect refresh

[@johnauden2393]

That's not PDK, Porsche uses this marketing name for a custom revision of VW's DL381 dual clutch box. Ask mechanics at any Porsche dealer and they will confirm.

[@michaelschneider-]

@John Auden .. Are you shit'in me! .. Say it ain't so Porsche AG? .. I'm sure there are others like myself who give the PDK prop's over the Audi cousin chassis using a run of the mill 7sp dual clutch. .. Man o Man, the 2021 or 2022 Macan's 7sp is a phony PDK gearbox.

[@kevinhan721]

Great vid. I have a question. I have porsche 911 and now I'm thinking of getting a car with more seats. I'm thinking Macan S (2022), Cayenne coupe S, and Panamera Sport Turisumo. Which one would you recommend and why? Thanks!

[@joe718gt4]

Macan would probably be the most fun to drive but with the least seat and stowage space

[@kevinhan721]

@@joe718gt4 isn't panamera more fun driving than macan considering macan is still SUV format and higher thus has more rolling?

[@sueluke7868]

How about a review for the Yak50 behind the Macan?

[@MotoManTV]

Formation flying 5 Nanchang CJ-6 Warbirds to EAA AirVenture @ Oshkosh - MotoMan 10th Anniversary!

[@DreamHomesWithAlex]

I'm hooked on the 2022 Macan. It's a tough choice between the 2022 GLC.. but there's just something about a Porsche...

[@sukhjindermomi6616]

Do the 22' Macan. I was in the same Dilemma. But I'm so glad I went with the Porsche, it just feels much superior all around.

[@JimmyXie]

For $80k, would you take this 2022 Macan S, or would you take a 2022 CX-5 + 2022 Miata?

[@MDYNAMICSCO]

X3M Comp for the win when it comes to this option.

[@billyrock8305]

Base model the best choice. Physical buttons, ACC, remote start required!

[@tamasszabo8824]

Hilarious intro MotoMan :) Please tell Porsche to make navigation and LED lights standard, as well.

[@cbatiau2528]

LED lights have been standard on the Macan since MY 2019, as has navigation... Best infotainment system in the auto industry in the non-Taycan current Porsches...

[@tamasszabo8824]

@@cbatiau2528 I should have made it clear, that I was talking about the 718, not the Macan.

[@schuller007]

4:43 cool Audi logo, perhaps from a Q5?

[@thomasjrinnus9935]

When the macan first came out, it was possible to more than double the price with options.

[@justinfontaine5539]

which in today's world is ridiculous.

[@Porsche1995]

if they could fit a 2.9 they could fit a 4.0 👀

[@jamar959]

The small sport wagon version is a brilliant idea!

[@kyleneilson5313]

Excellent review, thank you. As you pointed out, you literally have to lower your head and and find the right button to change these settings. Not safe at all, especially at speed. I'm glad you brought this to light. Love the car otherwise.

[@marinerbc1]

Haptic feedback getting silly and it should be gone by now , let us get some buttons here . Still holding on my16 CTT never 👎 will go the haptic road .

[@tommy516]

It works fine.

[@cbatiau2528]

I agree; the haptic buttons are something that I experienced in my 2018 Panamera and hated it -- glad to get the buttons back in my 2019 Macan. It's a big enough issue for me that may keep me from buying a new Porsche until/unless they go back to buttons (I also hate that black gloss that holds fingerprints and that reflects sunlight horribly .. they should have at least gone for matte black instead of glossy black -- stupid designers who obviously don't drive the cars that they design).

[@pokerfred68]

That’s quite a bit of coin. Almost 40k in options!!! Similar or better performance in a BMW X3 M40 or M.

[@jmax850]

They really are asking you to choose the Macan S over the X3M (plus room for a lot of options) at this price. I’d prefer an X3M over the Macan S, but a GTS would be my choice of the X3M.

[@dxbdxb242]

I love the Macan but ended up buying a X4 M40i fully loaded which was a better deal at the time…..but Macan is still very nice

[@ArsenalFCRules]

Amazing. Wish they gave a choice to keep or redesign the buttons. First time I see it on the road and it's on your channel. Well done Motorman. 💪

[@richardperry4105]

A Porsche and then options that are equal to the cost of GTI, OMG doesn't even come close to my true reaction. Webster would really have to go on a limb to redefine "value".

[@dougg4633]

Hope to be buying one of these for half, now there 2 years old

[@v1_rotate638]

Nice yak-50. I miss my 52

[@mariodesmo]

I wish they would get rid of the center lock wheels on the GTS model!

[@davidbram]

This color reminds me of the 2021 Acura RDX PMC.

[@richardh3587]

Yep - for this price I’d much rather have a cross turismo. Don’t think Porsche will do a smaller wagon unfortunately- just the upcoming macan EV. There are rumors of a next gen Audi s5 sportback that woukd be based on that same platform but we shall see.

[@martinm3480]

Geez!!! Okay if you had to pick between a fully loaded sq5 for $73k and a similar equipped macan s for $85k (basically matching what the sq5 has)..which would you go with?

[@MotoManTV]

Macan every day, twice on Sunday.

[@delantwine4081]

It’s funny you say that because I’m between both cars right now but at my dealership we have a used one 2017 and it’s 50k I went and test drove a brand new SQ5 Brand new it came out t 65K

[@thomasd8735]

@@delantwine4081 if I’m being honest with myself, the sq5 makes more sense when considering space, and tech (heads up display, lcd console, wireless apple car okay). But I do like the look for the Porsche and on paper it has more HP, but the sq5 is “faster”. I’m going to rent a macan for a weekend and really test drive it to figure things out. What are you leaning towards?

[@ericy3201]

Way to take credit for being the reason Porsche including keyless entry, because of course, you're the only car reviewer to have complained about Porsche's pricing structure.

[@MotoManTV]

I'm a giver:)

[@YYZ-SRQ]

let me get this right, you have to shell out $5,850 for the leather seats and then add another $1,710 to make them 18way power?? Most likely you can't get one without the other and it is the autoworld getting away somehow with 'tied-selling' which is illegal for everyone else. They have the nerve to charge for blindspot monitor @ $390

[@arnoagur7777]

That's for a full leather package to include more than just the seats. Just leather seats is around 3k less.

[@johnyacoub69]

No, you can buy them separately.

[@cbatiau2528]

that's really cheap for a blind-spot monitor in a Porsche; usually it's around $1000...

[@rogerspalding5673]

FINALLY, Porsche has cleaned up that horrific, mind melting miasma of buttons on the center console. The new touch sensitive panels on either side of the shift lever look 1000 per cent better.

[@nigelha3699]

wow keyless included, shit porsche will go broke. Most price gouging option list ever, my days of buying another new porsche have gone.

[@mazingazeta8235]

The best, not change

[@jameswillard1]

Cayenne doesn’t have 8-SPD PDK Motoman

[@spaceandcars6933]

He pronounced the word (Exclusive) Manufaktur pretty good

[@theexpert1825]

Nice review

[@benalami5281]

Is beautiful!!! ❤️

[@jhuang6264]

A fully loaded S is the same price as a fully loaded GTS, but the GTS has a nicer engine and a nicer badge - hard to get the S lol

[@adammarkowitz7944]

Excellent review.

[@cyrusjones8326]

Ive been saying the same thing for years. That would be awesome @13:08

[@BeanieNinjay0]

These newer cars are built on ever more modular platforms that tend to reuse either older power trains and drivetrains or from another already existing model. This all done to consolidate manufacturing and ultimately save costs yet the prices keep going up which I get is in part due to inflation, but where they really get you is in the options game. Next thing you know they’re going to treat the features on cars like software and everything will already be equipped on the car except you’ll have to pay a subscription for things like heated seats, nav, hell, extra horsepower. Lame as f*^k.

[@edhcb9359]

Those orange seatbelts look ridiculous, even in an orange vehicle. I must be getting old. 🙁

[@MDonovan]

Complaining that the Macaan doesn't have buttons for suspension control 🙄. This guy 13:00 is not Hans Stuck or Lewis Hamilton

[@mcximus]

over 100 k? Dammit, this thing is expensive

[@cbatiau2528]

yep, and not worth it... a Panamera at that price (or Taycan) is much more worth it...

[@marcrobert7690]

Time for this vehicle to get six cylinder PHEV 700+ bhp trim (as Mercedes will have e Perfomance 4 cylinder trim with 640 bhp and 8 cylinder trim with 800-840 bhp)

[@cbatiau2528]

Porsche has maxed out at about 460 hp and 516 lb-ft of torque in their 6-cylinder PHEVs (Cayenne; Panamera)... Macan will not be coming out in a PHEV, sadly...

[@kasio22B]

The front end looks like a jacked up GR86. The Mini has the clam shell hood too. And why Do I always think that you're a character from Seinfeld? Hm...

[@SpecialReserve]

No keyless entry is why they don't get stolen as much.

[@dirkdesouza5975]

Clam shell hood???? That is the single design feature in EVERY SINGLE Land Rover.... That design is what attributes in part to the excellent wading depth of all Land rovers....

[@whatdoufeel]

Nice.

[@mostlymauiwaui]

It's possible to spec wisely. Keyless entry isn't standard because here in the UK at least, car theft is a big issue. Having a physical key is much safer than keyless system if you have a desirable car, it reduces the risk of it being stolen when you are at a petrol station or off your drive.

[@bbc762x51]

Buying a $100k Macan is like buying a $60 microwavable steak

[@princea9615]

I say get the GTS😈

[@Scorpio1075]

I want a 4.0 V8 Macan GT 🥰

[@cbatiau2528]

not gonna happen; they're going electric... ICEs are being phased out...

[@LostSectorOnline]

all we need is an electric macan! without taycan head lights style. just same macan but electric.

[@billnorblat4047]

GTS is the best daily driver ever.

[@AlphaOmega_1111]

$103k is way too much money for that vehicle and that doesn’t even include a panoramic sunroof? 🤦🏻‍♂️ An SQ5 is a much better bang for the buck!

[@tommy516]

The Macan has PDK now? Why not in the Cayenne? You mentioned the Cayenne having a PDK but those are all Triptonic transmissions..... Its true, the Macan has a PDK and the all the Cayenne's have Triptonic, I wonder why. The Transmission in the Cayenne is so slow from a start but it does shift pretty quickly in Sport mode...but it is no PDK.

[@kimchee411]

Macan has always had PDK.

[@arnoagur7777]

The Macan has had PDK since its inception, my 2016 had it.

[@tommy516]

It must be powertrain related, since the cayenne is a VW/Audi powertrain

[@almac9203]

@@tommy516 no it's because the Cayenne is expected to tow heavy things and the auto box is better for towing than the PDK.

[@le1690]

Macan has had a PDK from day 1. I'm pretty sure all auto Porsches are PDK with the exception of the electric (duh) and the Cayenne. The Cayenne is all about smoothness and utility (towing), so a PDK there doesn't make sense.

[@JasonHoggatt]

Still no Android Auto support. Come on Porsche, not everyone is an Apple disciple. Lack of AA support is reason enough to look at different vehicles. I shouldn't have to switch my preferred cell platform to suit my car. And there is just no valid excuse why this car doesn't have it, particularly now that 911 has it.

[@sandman2b]

I couldn't agree more. I believe that the new 911, Cayenne and Taycan all have PCM 6.0 with AA. Ugh.

[@Michael-ub9jb]

Porsche doesn't stand behind the quality of their vehicles. The transfer case on my 2015 Macan S has failed twice now in only 27,000 miles. This is a known issue which caused Porsche to extend their warranty to 7 ys. Their "improved" transfer case lasted only 2 years 2 months and 9,000 miles. I am out of warranty by 6 weeks and Porsche turns their back on problem and sticks me for $3,200 repair. Don't buy a Porsche w/o extended warranty for entire length of time you expect to own it. #1 rated warranty company - Endurance - won't even sell coverage on Macan. That should tell Porsche and all potential buyers something. Customer experience is far from an expected premium car brand experience.

[@theusefulchannel]

Keyless entry is a deal breaker, sitting in EMFs is not good for your health.

[@kingshomes8546]

😷$103,600 ! Ouch 🔥

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

$103K for a fancy Mazda CX-5 Turbo. Same use case. Value!

[@2Bunphettered788]

Much rather have a BMW X3M 4.0 for $70k! 👌

[@nick_k.6000]

This car is beautiful but overpriced by 25K ..

[@korswe]

Model Y Performance. You’re welcome.

[@donaldbanner2185]

YEP! Less Money, More Stuff......TO GO WRONG Bad Cars OIL LEAKS GALORE

[@davidkay4174]

But I dont like keyless entry , dont like the engine shutting off at lights I dont like the car doing anything I didnt do to it , take your intuitive and shove it

[@vladsta3833]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@huxleyhornm7405]

Good stuff, wife has a 2015 model. Disagree w slight change to front end, getting a little stale. I’m a options whore, but would still cut it down a little, but not much.

[@ysesq]

lasr year of the macan

[@AustinF516]

I know this drives best in class for its intended use. However, I cannot ignore the lack of occasion inside this car (less the seat belts.) This is made worse by the fact for that for 65K out the door I can get GV 70 with an interior that honestly blows this car away for 40K less in terms of colors and overall feel. I know sacrilege. Comparing a Genesis to a Porsche. Let's be blunt about this though. For 95% of the folks that will be driving these cars the cars will be spend there lives well below the 9/10ths driving that allows for the Porsche to justify its cost.

[@mtnvalley9298]

Does the word depreciation factor into your equation? If so, per dollar spent, the Macan is the #1 return over three years. ALL cars. #1.

[@AustinF516]

@@mtnvalley9298 sure worse case scenario the 65K Genesis is worth 37K after 3 years and 30K miles. That 104K macan best case scenario after same 3 years 30K miles is worth 80 still. Yes interms of % value last Macanudo retains more. But still that doesn't impact my decision to go GV70 over this particular Macan

[@mtnvalley9298]

@@AustinF516 So spec it properly, duh. My 2018 Mac S cost 68k out and it's worth 50 k with 20k in miles. Cheap miles for as you said, the best car. But as they say "a fool and his money are easily parted" Go buy a genesissy! ( kind of a play like you did with the macan lol)

[@AustinF516]

@@mtnvalley9298 lmao of course a Macan S at 68K I would take, and so would most. I'm comparing the one in the video lol. Can I buy your Macan S lmaooo

[@mtnvalley9298]

@@AustinF516 Actually I just priced it and it's worth about 55k. Just sayin' and no, I wouldn't sell it to you. Lastly, your comment about most folks never using the max ability of the car is just nonsense. Owning a daily driven car isn't about that, although it can be with this car because it's ethos is Porsche. For me and many more, it's owning the best engineered product that's generating the buzz, and with the Macan, it's the cheapest way to own a piece of the company that's made the best gear for decades. It's 'ability' is multi faceted in how it can please it's owner, and not solely performance based.

[@migy5031]

Good performance, bad value.