2022 Specialized Allez Sprint Review: As Good As Carbon Fibre?

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David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

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@davidarthur
@davidarthur 2 жыл бұрын
Would you choose alloy over carbon? (Sorry about the 1080 upload, little problem with KZbin video processing...)
@lechprotean
@lechprotean 2 жыл бұрын
why would I if you can get say Giant TCR or Merida Reacto or Canyon or Rose or Focus etc etc with lighter and stiffer carbon frame for the price of alu Allez Sprint?
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
For impact-resistance, yes. I also don't have to baby it as much as carbon.
@romanpramuka2703
@romanpramuka2703 2 жыл бұрын
My old Merida Scultura alloy disc have much nicer welds, maybe is a bit heavier, but it's way cheaper.
@lacyleech7798
@lacyleech7798 2 жыл бұрын
No!
@dlaveancebert-sims2325
@dlaveancebert-sims2325 2 жыл бұрын
when can we expect these to go on sale in the US
@Hambini
@Hambini 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to buy one, so I can inspect the "smart welds" for myself.
@marko5876
@marko5876 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it
@stanleyling6116
@stanleyling6116 2 жыл бұрын
Good. Eagerly wait for your review then.
@GCPerformance18
@GCPerformance18 2 жыл бұрын
Dewit
@Hambini
@Hambini 2 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 You know I will don't you. This smart weld looks like a V prep with added marketing spiel.
@pablorubiopascual2269
@pablorubiopascual2269 2 жыл бұрын
ohh yeahhh. Go, go and goo!!!
@charliedillon1400
@charliedillon1400 2 жыл бұрын
As a Bianchi owner I'm deeply offended by the attempt at cultural appropriation with this paint job.
@kamuelalee
@kamuelalee 2 ай бұрын
Celeste was her name, was it not?
@frankf9736
@frankf9736 2 жыл бұрын
"This alu bike's just as good as carbon, you'll get the full carbon experience" "... we also charge you the $3k carbon price tag for the full carbon experience"
@Peter-cj2ml
@Peter-cj2ml 2 жыл бұрын
Lol ain't that the truth.
@idea1511
@idea1511 2 жыл бұрын
for about $200 more you can get a SuperSix Evo 105/disc and for about $2,300 you can get a caad13 disc 105.
@JohnPerales
@JohnPerales 8 ай бұрын
@@idea1511 hard to find caads but I'm looking
@Nico-jt8ll
@Nico-jt8ll 2 жыл бұрын
As a mechanic i love that the bike designer drilled these 4 handy holes in the top headset cap. It`ll take less than a minute to regrease the bearings and i can charge 30min as usual and on top of that, the costumer probably has to buy new headset bearings every month in the next rain season. Specialized has shown once again that they are far ahead of the competition and know how to earn money.
@mischief2168
@mischief2168 2 жыл бұрын
Good Grief ... those weld lines look shocking. I could buy a beautiful looking carbon Orro Venturi STC aerobike with full 105 and still save £350 ... it's a definite 'no thanks' from me.
@JimB-1980
@JimB-1980 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but then you’d own an Orro with full 105…..
@mischief2168
@mischief2168 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimB-1980 ... yes, own a carbon bike and save money. The Orro is a looker too. Otherwise for the same money I can buy the stunning carbon Orro Venturi with Ultegra and with a better wheel set than the Allez. The Allez is such very poor value for money.
@benthilwind6908
@benthilwind6908 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as saw the thread I thought that , that's some cheap welding
@Megadeth6633
@Megadeth6633 2 жыл бұрын
Orro? Pure branding bro... No essence. Jeez just get a chinese frame from a respected brand, it will be miles better. All the reviews for the last couple of years have been very good for these frames, they are well made. This allez though has the reputation of being stiff, so it can be a nice crit bike. I don't like the welds though.
@alexward6416
@alexward6416 2 жыл бұрын
There can definitely be better on the welds. Some of the worst I have seen for a long time. I'm not talking about the structural integrity, but the look. And the looks means alot to people especially at these prices
@ash4pm
@ash4pm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Bought my 61cm bike 2 months ago and am enjoying it immensely - on club rides it keeps up with way more expensive carbon bikes and does well on the TTs. Great bike for the price point.
@aluminati9918
@aluminati9918 2 жыл бұрын
By all means, I’m sure it’s a good bike. But for that price you get significantly better deals on many big name carbon bikes. A Canyon Ultimate with 105 to name just one. Otherwise, great vid as always, David!
@Bellerophon17
@Bellerophon17 2 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking the same thing - my 2020 105 equipped Ultimate cost me about 1000 euro less than that. Or, for about 250 euro more today, you could have an Ultegra equipped carbon Aeroad, with 60 mm deep Reynolds carbon wheels! I mean, they're all really expensive, but this does seem like Specialized are pushing it.
@onezweithree
@onezweithree 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bellerophon17 Rose X-Lite 4 disc with ultegra or rim-brake with ultegra di2. This new Alles has nothing to do with a "budget-bike".
@solitaryrefinement6787
@solitaryrefinement6787 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bellerophon17 And I got my 2016 Cannondale SuperSix EVO w/105 in early 2017 off the dealer for $1650. $1750 for such a poorly put together frameset is ridiculous, aluminum or carbon.
@n_cortex1319
@n_cortex1319 2 жыл бұрын
The Tarmac SL6 105 is a only little bit more, and is carbon, normal seat post and handlebar/stem. It's also lighter and has the same geometry. Seems to be the true 'budget' SL7
@MrSmoothasf
@MrSmoothasf 2 жыл бұрын
A giant tcr would be conciderably lighter too
@nyanoot
@nyanoot 2 жыл бұрын
Cannondale had perfect welding on the CAAD 17 years ago ! And the painting was so so good too. This has neither of both.
@Megadeth6633
@Megadeth6633 2 жыл бұрын
I have one of those... A caad9 made in America. Welds are beautiful, no doubt, but these american cannondales arent as good as people want them to be. First of all mine has a slight headtube issue, the holes aren't exactly aligned and getting a proper, sprint-ready headset preload is tricky. It can be done but it takes a long while. Another thing I noticed about American cannondales, and this is visible in any picture, is the top tube / head tube weld will vary in position. Sometimes it's welded higher, sometimes lower. Even on same models. They aren't top quality bikes, they were still made for cheap and tolerances weren't the best. The sad reality. The bike itself is great, it's a little rocket and I can't fault the tubing or the design for that matter.
@MoneyMakerRealty
@MoneyMakerRealty 2 жыл бұрын
I have a caad12- 2019 105 rim break. I would never get rid of it. I have it set up as a indoor trainer/all weather bike. My emonda is a sun shine bike. Lol
@p49N
@p49N 2 жыл бұрын
That Allez is actually an early 1992. I lived a 20 minute drive from Mountain View CA at the time and purchased an Allez Epic Dura Ace Model in 93, and still ride it today. Over 200,000 km, all original except have gone through 5 saddles, and rebuilt the wheels.
@BlackSheepUSMC
@BlackSheepUSMC 2 жыл бұрын
It's a 1989. I have a 1991 Epic (Ultegra 9sp) in pristine condition that's still going strong.
@twatts4436
@twatts4436 2 жыл бұрын
I want to prefix this by saying I like aluminium race bikes. Wish more options were available. I was initially excited that someone was launching a competent alloy racer in 2022. This is just too expensive. Lacklustre wheels and tyres. A weld that is pretty awful looking. And the same price as a TCR advance 1 (carbon fibre). Specialised are absolutely hoping that they can trick people into thinking this is worth it, so that they can charge more for their carbon bikes. Especially frustrating considering they're going direct to consumer, the bikes should be cheaper.
@loc9588
@loc9588 2 жыл бұрын
for 1k for this bike now that would be a damn good deal.. even like 1300. bike industry as a whole is too expensive
@Paddyhudson
@Paddyhudson 2 жыл бұрын
I went with a 2020 TCR over the Allez sprint of that year for exactly that reason: price.
@njm3211
@njm3211 2 жыл бұрын
"Preface" not prefix fyi.
@cmx2828
@cmx2828 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalamarusffm 1400€ Frameset only.
@kentwong3818
@kentwong3818 2 жыл бұрын
There's like 4 giant TCR's in all of Canada (Giant Canada has their online inventory plugged into all LBS across the nation). They don't ship and only do local pick up. I scrolled the comments in the youtube section and I see a lot disconnected from reality comments. 1) Many road bikes have a 12-15 month lead time. I tried to get an Emonda SL7/SLR, I was told it was 12-18 months 2) same with Giant 3) inflation. So sick of people comparing Pre 2019 bike prices to today. No one gives a shit if you could buy a bike in 2015 for $1000 because today is not 2015.
@jessiewade9202
@jessiewade9202 2 жыл бұрын
I own this bike. You just have to ride it. It’s so responsive and it’s also very stiff. It’s really a super bike.
@paulwickward6703
@paulwickward6703 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to money, aluminum may have great value, but not if it's anything from specialized
@Sir-Prizse
@Sir-Prizse 2 жыл бұрын
I now work at a huge online shop for bicycle parts and it has been my dream for many years to buy an Specialized Allez Sprint and now I am closer to the dream than ever before. I've been dreaming of this bike since it came out back in 2018 with rim brakes.
@ironray123
@ironray123 Жыл бұрын
I actually had the retro Allez with the carbon weave, clear coat, and steel butting that you briefly show. I got it in 1989 and rode the living tweedle out of that thing! The only problem was that the fork would start vibrating if you went downhill over 40mph! But as ,far as the Allez Sprint, it's basically the same concept as the Chisel for mountain biking.......an affordable alloy racing bike, using the same weld process, that can be easily upgraded.
@benny332
@benny332 2 жыл бұрын
Insane price for an aluminium bike. Horrendous welds, heavy. What a rip
@ArteUltra1195
@ArteUltra1195 2 жыл бұрын
I never understood how they can mess up the welds that badly. Most other manufacturers do a better job for alot less money
@idea1511
@idea1511 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Allez Sprint Comp last Monday. Upgraded wheelset to Roval C38s and tubeless Vittoria Rubino Pros for tires (28mm tubeless, a first for me). This bike does move fast. You notice the alleged "aero effect" at high speeds where it seems to overcome air resistance more easily than a traditional road bike. The bike takes power transfer well. I am coming from rim brake bikes w/clinchers ('13 SL4 Tarmac and TCR Adv 2) though on deepish Winspace Hypers with GP5000s. Given that, the bike is extremely comfortable, I could not tell it was aluminum, it feels as compliant as a carbon bike. It is heavier than an SL7 no doubt (aluminum w/disc brakes). Future planned upgrades include 53/39 crankset and an 11-30t cassette.
@stevem.3646
@stevem.3646 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, I ride a CAAD12 Ultegra that weighs only 15lbs 2oz. Hunt Alloy Wheels, Carbon fork, seatpost, handlebar, lighter saddle, tires, tubes and tape. Climbs well and coasts fast. (The welds are pretty sharp too) Under $2,000 complete.
@stevenkendall8892
@stevenkendall8892 2 жыл бұрын
David, you owe me 12:24 of time I can not get back, you are a marketing managers wet dream.
@johnwedlake5543
@johnwedlake5543 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but that is just not fair. David is one of the best reviewers in the game and does a great job at getting his own point of view across. He shares the brand provided information but he’s not shy about calling them out if the product is not up to scratch or the marketing is just hype.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwedlake5543 So you want to say that Specialized never made a bad bike compared to competition? As i dont remember a review where he is thrashing Spesh? "he’s not shy about calling them out if the product is not up to scratch or the marketing is just hype." - Sure... Like price for example go to bed dude...
@benp3639
@benp3639 2 жыл бұрын
I have a BMC Teammachine ALR with wheel upgrades. It shares the geometry of its carbon counterpart and is super fast, lightweight, comfortable, but a fraction of the cost (at least it was last year!)
@13overton
@13overton 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto. I have a pimped up ALR and love it. Best alloy bike I have ever ridden.
@johnflynn4923
@johnflynn4923 2 жыл бұрын
I will go for one when there is a rim brake version available - raced on an Allez Epic back in the day and rim brakes were just fine back then as they are still fine now.
@Saltydog547
@Saltydog547 2 жыл бұрын
is there a difference between smart weld and dumb weld? i personally prefer invisible weld
@kaikalino7349
@kaikalino7349 2 жыл бұрын
I love taking the corners on my Allez Sprint! It’s responsive and smooth. I’m currently on half toe clips because I have not become acclimated with clip less pedals as of yet. I need to continue practicing removing my shoe off the pedal when stationary. I have no complaints with the aluminum or the welding.
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 Жыл бұрын
First or second-generation?
@keithevans5667
@keithevans5667 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, super bike and nice to see a guest on your show! Alec is a nice addition. 👌
@Stefanosinf
@Stefanosinf 2 жыл бұрын
Trek's Emonda ALR joints are way smoother, especially the older model.
@humidor3
@humidor3 2 жыл бұрын
love my 2019 emonda alr5 rim brake
@maritnmetal
@maritnmetal 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my emonda alr5 has no welding marks whatsoever…
@kleve_michael
@kleve_michael 2 жыл бұрын
Agree! I have alr5 2021 version disc 105. Looks better than this
@solitaryrefinement6787
@solitaryrefinement6787 2 жыл бұрын
Trek is the king of hydroforming. CAAD used to be the best when they still made their frames in America, but that Specialized, I wouldn't touch that thing. There's no excuse for welds that poor. A shame though because the tube shapes are nice.
@solitaryrefinement6787
@solitaryrefinement6787 2 жыл бұрын
@@humidor3 My 2009 Trek 1.5's Alpha Aluminum frame was so beautifully hydroformed that everybody thought it was carbon. Even Madone owners liked it when I'd ride with them.
@llee9235
@llee9235 2 жыл бұрын
Well at this moment, I would say the best bank for the buck alu bike is Caad12 for now. Better than a 2022 Allen sprint, lighter, cheaper and have both rim and disc for you to choose. For a Caad12 now, it’s around 1200usd with ultegra 6800. For the allez sprint, you can’t even buy the frame alone for the money
@sametal38
@sametal38 2 жыл бұрын
Lot of hate in the comments here. I do think the price is a bit shocking especially compared to the last Allez Sprint which I own. But if the last 4 years I've owned the sprint is anything to go by, this bike should be excellent. The Allez sprint is by far the stiffest and most nimble feeling bike I've ever rode. As far as I know, there are no other comparable aluminum bikes with such focus on aerodynamic tube shapings. I have no desire to buy this bike considering my current Allez Sprint with rim brakes is perfect for me, but if someone was out looking for an SL7 without paying for an SL7, this is as good as it gets. Also considering this bike is lighter than the last Allez Sprint, there is no reason why this bike couldn't be right up in the peloton with the SL7s and the Pinarellos. Is it a bargain? not if you want to ride casually. Trek Emonda ALR is probably a better option and more beautiful too. But if someone wanted to compete at the top levels without top level cash, I think it is.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
"but if someone was out looking for an SL7 without paying for an SL7, this is as good as it gets." - Please tell me you`re joking right? "Also considering this bike is lighter than the last Allez Sprint, there is no reason why this bike couldn't be right up in the peloton with the SL7s and the Pinarellos." - This bike... is not lighter than previous Sprint "But if someone wanted to compete at the top levels without top level cash, I think it is." - Do you ever know how this works?
@sametal38
@sametal38 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanKowalski-pe9lo I thought I read that it was lighter but apparently it's about the same true. It can still get down to the UCI minimum limit considering it has been done on the previous allez sprint. And why on earth is it out of possibility that someone wouldn't want to pay less to compete at high levels? aero is very important. And bike has the same geo and the tubing shapes as an SL7. just the frameset alone is almost half the price of the standard SL7 frameset. What is the outrage? What other alloy frameset under $2000 has the same aerodynamic profile of a manufacturer's highest end aero bike?
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@sametal38 "What other alloy frameset under $2000 has the same aerodynamic profile of a manufacturer's highest end aero bike?" - Please turn critical thinking on... I bet you didn`t raced above A2.
@sametal38
@sametal38 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanKowalski-pe9lo no I have not. But it’s still a valid point. Why are you so vindictive? It’s a comment about a bicycle. You can relax a tad bit lol.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@sametal38 Because your all statements are based on absolutely nothing rendering your post absolute crap. Sorry but its not my fault.
@MrTietoisuus
@MrTietoisuus 2 жыл бұрын
I’m riding CAAD13 and love it. It’s very fast and responsive. Aluminium is great,
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
Doesnt matter... Its dated and now you need shift it and buy brand spanking new overpiced Spesh LTD for 6800 to get +10 to charisma and -100 to wisdom and intelligence.
@TheBonsaiZone
@TheBonsaiZone 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, an all aluminum build, wheels, hubs, cranks etc.!!
@nocturnalcadence1676
@nocturnalcadence1676 2 жыл бұрын
0:17 I still have my Allez Epic! I've converted it to 11 speed and run carbon wheels. I still ride it and love it, I'll need to do a video on it soon.
@nachelia
@nachelia 2 жыл бұрын
time to upgrade from my carbon bike to this aluminium one!
@MitchellSains
@MitchellSains 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up the allez with alpinist bars and some carbon wheels. Just waiting on the drive train
@robertlara1272
@robertlara1272 2 жыл бұрын
I owned two Allez Sprints. One rim brake and one disc brake. I built them both up from scratch. The finishes were gorgeous. But I felt they had a harsh ride quality. I then tried to stuff 28c Conti tires in there (soften the ride with bigger tires) and the tire was rubbing the bottom of the forks crown. Sold them both. I like the Cannondale CAAD series much better as I feel they are more forgiving.
@chiefrocker12
@chiefrocker12 2 жыл бұрын
Strange, same experience. Running 28c Vittoria Corsa Tan walls on my rim version now, no such issues. Internal Carbon rim width 21mm, so tires are not flaring out too much.
@jerryjin3427
@jerryjin3427 2 жыл бұрын
Caz the last gen Allez used to be a crit bike, and was probably designed to use 23mm tires, especially considering the time it was launched.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerryjin3427 SO now they can tweak a little and make them fit 28 or 32 as its discs and call it a day... Ahhh fogot and charge premium for this... make sense
@hail_sagan2830
@hail_sagan2830 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, the Allez Sprint was designed to be a rocketballz-stiff crit/track bike, not a cushy endurance bike. If ride quality was a concern it was never going to be a good option. But if you want to go full throttle and get every last watt to the ground, it’s an S-tier frame.
@ronradmer3573
@ronradmer3573 2 жыл бұрын
I owned the first Giant carbon road bike, the Giant Cadex 980C. Carbon tubes with Aluminium lugs. I miss that bike. Looked similar to this one.
@LukeGJPotter
@LukeGJPotter 2 жыл бұрын
The welds look like something you'd see on a Shiv, a Prison Shiv. :D
@kamfire98
@kamfire98 2 жыл бұрын
The feel is real, very responsive and only marginally heavier. I like my Supersix Evo but my CAAD9 is nothing short of phenomenal. With a carbon bar and FSA seat post it’s just as smooth 😊. Great video thanks for posting
@Countrystock
@Countrystock 2 жыл бұрын
Those weld lines got my attention 🧐
@twin2k
@twin2k 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2017 Specislized Allez and it has got smoothweld weldings. Those welds look smoother than the new bulkie 2022 welds. What happened? If you look from a distance the old frames locked like a carbon frame, but the 2022 look really ugly.
@danielakerman8241
@danielakerman8241 2 жыл бұрын
Cycling community is so much like the F1 community: full of negative, nay-saying, know it alls. All these people here trashing the bike, the price, the marketing, blah blah blah. You haven’t even ridden the damn thing. And people call 105 a “crappy spec” are CLEARLY price-tag snobs, as it’s a phenomenal group set with 95% of the performance of Dura-Ace, for far less than 95% of the price.
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
That's right, it's basically got everything we need and nothing we don't. Except if one wants wide aftermarket parts compatibility, which isn't a concern for me.
@PuneethBedre
@PuneethBedre 2 жыл бұрын
In Oz, the Allez costs $4200 The Trek Emonda SL5 carbon 2020 bike that I have put me back by $2800 (standard kit straight out of shop) Both bikes rock the 105 R7000 groupset by the looks and there isn't anything on the Allez that warrants $1400 extra - suppposedly the allimiunium bike is meant to be cheaper?
@DJLaFontsee
@DJLaFontsee 2 жыл бұрын
$3000 for an aluminum bike with 105 and bleh wheels is still pretty ridiculous pricing if you ask me. And those weld lines... yikes!
@TheOkinawaBoy
@TheOkinawaBoy 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I bough my Radon R1 aluminium bike with Ultegra for just 850 Euro. It was in 2011 😀
@Nico-jt8ll
@Nico-jt8ll 2 жыл бұрын
You are completly right that the bike is horrendously overpriced, but at least the Dt wheels will last a couple years, which is something positive. Haven`t seen usable wheels on new bikes in a while - thanks Specialcrap for not going OEM
@woooooooooo3453
@woooooooooo3453 2 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the handlebar model with sl7 stem at 4:26 ? Thanks in advance
@mohamadjamil3164
@mohamadjamil3164 2 жыл бұрын
So, all of the bike journalists are reading the same script. David, please present an objective opinion as you did before rather than follow a script. By now, all are aware the the Specailized marketing machine. Super inflated prices for not so good of a product. Be at the consumer side
@thegrowl2210
@thegrowl2210 2 жыл бұрын
If the reviewers say bad things about the bike, they don't get them sent in. Best to wait for reviews from actual customers to come in for a more objective viewpoint, these sorts of videos are more useful as a news outlet.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 2 жыл бұрын
You're talking nonsense accusing me of reading from a script. Views are all my own. Prices have gone up for all bike brands and it's not just bikes, but all consumer goods from fuel to houses and food. I get you are angry about it. This was very much a first ride with one day to ride and film the bike not a long term in-depth review when I can really get under the skin of the bike
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 2 жыл бұрын
Nope I'm sorry to let you down that's not how it works at all
@mohamadjamil3164
@mohamadjamil3164 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidarthur watch another review for the same bike from another journalist and compare both scripts. As this might make sense to you it does not make sense to viewers. Consumers and cycling fans are aware of technology and innovation and can separate that from the other things claimed in this vid. I liked your past reviews and the channel and wish you success. You can listen or reject feedback. It is up to you
@mohamadjamil3164
@mohamadjamil3164 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidarthur gc performance sells those and was very objective about his bike first reaction. Your reply is no nice. I honestly don’t think that I will be here when and if you do the full review. Good luck.
@Matt-sb3dj
@Matt-sb3dj 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I bought my caad12 with 105 for $1750au. $4200 for that is just insane
@8paolo96
@8paolo96 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest Sensah Empire groupset, so you can see how good of a racing machine can come out on a very tight budget
@simonalexandercritchley439
@simonalexandercritchley439 2 жыл бұрын
Leave it to the Specialized marketeers ! You can make a responsive bike out of any material,it is more about tube shapes,geometry and how you put it together.Trek Emonda,Klein Quantum,Cannondale etc are alu examples. Go ahead,do a build I would like to see. Things about the new Allez: why use a colour close to Celeste(Bianchi)? and the welds are hideous for a not cheap alu frame.
@d00dEEE
@d00dEEE 2 жыл бұрын
Won many a crit sprint on my venerable Klein Quantum II, back in the day. That sucker was so responsive, best alu bike I ever owned. Rode some other mfgr's aluminum frames (mostly Cannondale, but maybe a Spez or two?), none were as supple, responsive or good-handling as the Klein. I should test one of these for comparison.
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 2 жыл бұрын
Hot dog - Dave doesn’t skip a BEAT on releases. Specialized “Lets release a new bike next week” Dave Arthur “I already knew you would”
@MrIanD1
@MrIanD1 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, but how does that compare to what Cannondale is doing with aluminium?
@Thetoad738
@Thetoad738 Жыл бұрын
Didn't the Sommer brothers ride Columbus SL Specialized Allez in the movie American Flyers in 1985?
@DeStraatz
@DeStraatz 2 жыл бұрын
Now this begs the question, how does it stack up next to the CAAD
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
You gonna win A1 on the Spesh and be last on Caad10... Evey journalist (paid by Spesh) will tell u this.
@17cream
@17cream 2 жыл бұрын
£1600 for the framset? Is that right? Crazy
@nizam_mr
@nizam_mr 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering on how TCR Aluxx SL/SLR stacks up against this (or Allez past models) and CAAD. Theres no such reviews /Giant still sells TCR Aluminium 2020/2021 SL1 105 and SLR2 105 /SLR1 Ultegra in Asia
@alastairread9219
@alastairread9219 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about building up an Allez sprint myself with 105 di2.
@DendrobiusAU
@DendrobiusAU 2 жыл бұрын
I have the OG 2007 Cervelo Team Soloist. It makes me wonder - if we put equivalent groupsets (rim vs disc notwithstand) and equivalent wheels on, how much faster would the Allez Sprint be? Both aluminium, both "aero". The Team Soloist came out 2001, this is 2022. 21 years of bike development, is there really a decisive difference?
@idea1511
@idea1511 2 жыл бұрын
i had the '08 cervelo soloist (aluminum), it was a beast but this thing is way more compliant. However, I am sure with good bars, tape, carbon wheels and tubeless tires, the cervelo still kills it
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
But with 25 mm tires, can your Soloist run rims with an internal width wider than 15 mm? Disclaimer: Not attacking you, just curious because I also have a pre-2010s road bike and my max. tire clearance is 25 mm tires on 15 mm internal rim width.
@DendrobiusAU
@DendrobiusAU 2 жыл бұрын
@@sbccbc7471 Yes - I have a set of Craftworx Ultima Carbon SL38s on my Soloist team. They're internal width 20.7mm. I've got 25mm Pirelli P Zero Velos on them. Clearance is good.
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
@@DendrobiusAU How wide do your Pirellis inflate to on this wheelset? Because it may not be necessarily 25 mm, it's always wider than that, especially on wide rims.
@idea1511
@idea1511 2 жыл бұрын
@@sbccbc7471 I ran the Hyper Winspace 50mm carbon wheels. I don't have the money unfortunately to grab the Winspace with discs at the moment.
@carlosmotta6537
@carlosmotta6537 2 жыл бұрын
What is the max tire size? I know you mentioned it, but couldn’t hear it 😉
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 2 жыл бұрын
32mm!
@WillStewart2012
@WillStewart2012 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to know how much Alec's build weighs kitted out with CLX wheels upgraded stem/bars etc
@perfectzero84
@perfectzero84 2 жыл бұрын
$3000 for aluminum and 105 is insane!!!! There is no way to justify this price tag for what you are getting.
@Nico-jt8ll
@Nico-jt8ll 2 жыл бұрын
Have you counted the welds? Shouldn`t there be 12: Seatstays 4, chainstays 4, downtube 2 and toptube 2. So one less than a modern standard disc frame, which are btw really flexy. I wish they would add a bridge at the seatstays near the seatpost and a bridge at the chainstays near the bottom bracket, don`t feel comfortable seeing commuteing bicycles taking part in races, which the pricetag is sugesting
@cmx2828
@cmx2828 2 жыл бұрын
for everyone who is wondering how the compression ring of the headset is constructed. It is the EXAT same structure as the SL7. How can they screw up like that again?
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it's the same as the SL7 the issues for which I'm told have been sorted out by now
@channul4887
@channul4887 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidarthur "issues for which I'm told have been sorted out by now" Told by whom, Spec themselves?
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
The hardware now matches the post-recall Tarmac SL7s'.
@Jon_Drew
@Jon_Drew 2 ай бұрын
I already have a gravel bike...Niner rlt9 steel. However, I was looking to replace it with the Specialized Crux DSW custom build as an all around bike. But now I'm thinking of building up an Allez Sprint lol. Also looking into a Blackheart frameset, Fairlight Strael/Secan and even a Mason Bokeh.
@JohnPerales
@JohnPerales 8 ай бұрын
My gosh, I had that Specialized Allez carbon hybrid purchased at South Bay Bicycles in San Diego circa 1990. I kept it for years and sadly it was stolen in Chicago after I lent it to my friend. If I had it today, I'd mount it on my wall :)
@Paddyhudson
@Paddyhudson 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see an all Aluminium build(as much as possible). Some high end Alloy rims and finishing kit on the alloy frame; show the world that metal rocks!
@dh7314
@dh7314 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing brings out the haters quite like a new Specialized bike
@alfredgoudreault-marcoux8453
@alfredgoudreault-marcoux8453 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know when is the caad 14 gonna release and could you do à comparaison between the two?
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 2 жыл бұрын
I've no idea but when it happens I'll defo try and do a comparison
@Sarncho
@Sarncho 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a frame set in oil slick Charmeleon for the hell of it. Very excited to do a 1x AXS aero build!!!
@db613
@db613 2 жыл бұрын
40 sec faster over 40 km they're not giving you what speed that is at it just sounds like the only aero gains was from the hidden cables is the only gain over the old generation Allez Sprint, so unless the riding dynamic changed greatly I just keep with the older generation which I think looks beefier. I personally have the last generation Allez Sprint custom painted with rim brakes debating if I should upgrade to a disc brake to this new generation or just by the old generation as much cheaper
@jonathanellis1842
@jonathanellis1842 2 жыл бұрын
The Run/Satin Logos colour looks nice (bright purple), deck it out with wireless 12 speed ultegra, some 50mm hunt carbon wheels (T-Ni purple rainbow spokes) Prime Primavera Aero cockpit then Maybe a fabric scoop ti railed saddle and a set of tan wall tubeless tyres (mine would be pirelli p zeros race 28c classic), and I think you would have a very nice bike!
@troyphillips6481
@troyphillips6481 2 жыл бұрын
Build one up for sure. I'd be getting one of those Allez sprint frames tommorow if I could haha
@525forever63
@525forever63 2 жыл бұрын
Hello David, do you know the french brand named Origine ? I'm riding their aluminium road bike called Tuxedo,and i can tell that nowadays aluminium bikes are a damn good deal.
@Jonathan-py9xr
@Jonathan-py9xr 2 жыл бұрын
Good review … informative and concise
@obode1725
@obode1725 2 жыл бұрын
As a brazilians man, do you guys from uk, consider that price expensive?
@Hintonbro.
@Hintonbro. 2 жыл бұрын
Even an all-out race bike on a budget needs disc brakes over rim brakes?
@FenixYuk
@FenixYuk 2 жыл бұрын
How is it lighter and stronger? Its claimed weight is somewhat 300g heavier then the previous generation
@noonster55
@noonster55 2 жыл бұрын
I can remember wanting that Epic Allez from the 80's so badly. Sadly, I never got one. I would pay a pretty penny for one like that to hang up in my garage and take out for a nice Sunday ride...
@miketumelty8183
@miketumelty8183 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, although, this simply highlights the extortionate prices these big brands are charging which seem to have rocketed in the last few years!
@knalpotbocor168
@knalpotbocor168 Жыл бұрын
Specialized allez e5 or Trek Domane AL or Giant Content SL1 Disc or Cannondale CAAD 13?
@JSC131
@JSC131 2 жыл бұрын
Cracking bike David but £2650 is bonkers money £1800 tops, the welds??? great video again.
@vodizzzle
@vodizzzle 2 жыл бұрын
With pedals, cages and mount is it still below 10kg?
@gislasson
@gislasson 2 жыл бұрын
great video mr david and awesome alloy bike dream bike for me awesome cheers from southamerica
@KoreaRides
@KoreaRides 2 жыл бұрын
I only ride aluminium bikes and this looks nice, but £2,650 for aluminium, cheap ass wheels and 105??? Should be £1,500
@noelpga
@noelpga 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how light yet smooth you could make it!
@abhisekkonar362
@abhisekkonar362 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldnt it be a 'aluminum copy' rather than a carbon copy of the SL7?
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
Your expectations are too big imo xD.
@OM-sb2bd
@OM-sb2bd 2 жыл бұрын
nice catch !
@eric.onthego
@eric.onthego 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say but those “smart” welds look horrendous. Like gouts/lumps on a frame.
@bigmort6916
@bigmort6916 2 жыл бұрын
We have the Specialized sirrus 4.0 carbon frame bike, not a race bike , I'm not a race rider either, but it is a nice looking , quick and light bike.
@SNS1212
@SNS1212 2 жыл бұрын
What is the frame weight?
@AdvancedGuy29
@AdvancedGuy29 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, how does using a CF bike actually increases my carbon footprint?
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
It's not easily recyclable, unlike aluminium.
@kwtay1746
@kwtay1746 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever welding technologies they claim, but aesthetic wise, the welds on the bike definitely look ugly! Experienced welder should be able to make more beautiful welds than these.
@scottjordan4850
@scottjordan4850 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the used bike sites are always full of Allez Sprint bikes and framesets, yet people always rave about the bike's performance. If it's so good, why are they always up for sale?
@anthonywong614
@anthonywong614 2 жыл бұрын
Because people that get Allez sprints are also probably the people that would upgrade more often
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
Some ex-Allez Sprint owners don't appreciate it for what it truly is. I have one customer who bought one from me, but switched to an Addict RC and now an S-Works Tarmac SL7 because she wants a lighter bike to climb on. The same goes for CAAD12s. But, I like these two aluminium bikes. I have no idea if I'll ever get the second-gen Allez Sprint though, but I'm pretty intrigued by the VYNL Road (available in rim and disc).
@paulwixman8151
@paulwixman8151 2 жыл бұрын
Aluminum lugs on that classic Allez...Great review! pjw
@ayowser01
@ayowser01 2 жыл бұрын
Inflation is real. I paid $1800 for my 2018 model.
@davidmajor2793
@davidmajor2793 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Allez from 2021,great bike, glad the new model is also excellent.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent in what? Comparable to What?
@davidmajor2793
@davidmajor2793 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanKowalski-pe9lo Bit of a harsh tone in your reply.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmajor2793 Its not harsh at all... What is excellent in this model... Compared to let's say motorbike which is cheaper than LTD version of Allez. Comfort, speed value for money colours what? And whats the reference point.
@gregmorrison7320
@gregmorrison7320 2 жыл бұрын
Amongst my 6 bikes I have a 2002 aluminum GT ZR3.0 one of the first aluminum bikes that came with a carbon fork (I had an earlier one with an alloy fork which WAS harsh) however with the addition of a carbon fork and seat post (minimal as it is) the bike is not harsh as aluminum bikes are touted to be. I had the rear brake bridge raised a few years back increasing the clearance for 28mm tires and the front has room for 30mm and this 20 year aluminum bike is by no means harsh, larger tires adding even more comfort. There is quite a difference between an older aluminum MTB I have and a newer carbon MTB but they encounter much harder terrain than the road buzz that road bikes are subjected too.
@sailorcyclist
@sailorcyclist 2 жыл бұрын
What size frame is the silver and black one?
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a 58cm
@sailorcyclist
@sailorcyclist 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidarthur Thanks David! Someday soon I hope companies or a website will release a bike graphic with pictures of all sizes 52,54,56,58,61 etc so I don't have to ask on youtube and instagram 🤞And Great Video as always!
@salmonmru
@salmonmru 2 жыл бұрын
I love aluminium. But the joints look like the ones we had in the 90s on the cheap generic frames. That's gross. It really looks like the end of Steel as a "normal" frame material ended up with less skilled people when it comes to weld tubes perfectly with clean joints for bikes frames
@monochromebluess
@monochromebluess 2 жыл бұрын
Good review of the bike. I do think the welds are less than appealing but it’s not a deal breaker. More interested in that remark about it being 41 secs faster. When I checked the facts that it was 41 secs faster over a distance of 40 kilometres well simple maths say that’s just 1 second per 1 kilometre. Hardly super fast and even that could be easily explained away with random factors and averaging etc. And why do Specialized want to be Bianchi with that blue paint scheme on the launch. Would be interesting to see a bike build done though.
@Digi20
@Digi20 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing against AL - i started road biking 5 years ago with the first rose pro sl disc with shimano 105 and over the years upgraded everything but the frame step by step. actually the frame and the fork are the only original parts, its now a bling bling Di2 exotic parts looker, around 1,5kg lighter, more comfortable and i truly love it. i have ridden several different bikes over the years but i have no ambitions in changing my frame to a new carbon one because the geometry just fits like a glove (i was lucky nailing it with the first buy) and i like the carelessness i can have with aluminium. i dont mind a battle scar here and there oon it - but the price of the specialized allez is just ridiculous. yes, all those hydroformed and bespoke frameparts surely are more expensive to manufacture and weld together than your standard OEM china frameset - but come on.
@db613
@db613 2 жыл бұрын
If only they could do smart weld from the inside of the frame which would still increase the structure, allow for a clean smooth outer surface guess when we get more robotic in our surgeries may lead to more robotic welding in bikes...
@williealston9120
@williealston9120 Жыл бұрын
Love the old school ALLEZ
@forresttroxell
@forresttroxell 2 жыл бұрын
Curious if that headset/spacer would be compatible on old tarmacs, to integrate cables? anyone know?
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it is, the first-gen's upper headset bearing is smaller.
@forresttroxell
@forresttroxell 2 жыл бұрын
@@sbccbc7471 i hope you're wrong, haha
@sbccbc7471
@sbccbc7471 2 жыл бұрын
@@forresttroxellIt's likely I'm not, I've worked with a first-gen Allez Sprint and Tarmac SL7 before and assuming the second-gen Allez Sprint's compression ring is the same as the Tarmac SL7's (which I think it is, need to double-check their manuals), it definitely won't be possible since it's larger than the first-gen Allez Sprint's.
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