2022 Tiguan Stereo speaker upgrade. Volkswagen R-line gets Focal sound system. How to install DIY

[@sanekn]

Changed speakers from stock (VW POLO AW 2018) to the two kits - IS VW 155 woofer and tweeter and IC VW 165 combo in the back and sound deadened all doors with sound dampening. Bass response improved, but overall sound is about the same. Ordered a focal 4.320 amplifier to try out now as I found myself pushing the car system's eq all max to have decent sound. Will see how it turns out. Nice work by the way! EDIT : just installed focal impulse amp and holy moly this is good. In my opinion just changing speakers ain't worth it, you gotta power them up properly. And focal implulse little amp works damn great. Just hide it away somewhere in the dash so your wife can't see it xD

[@wfujay3946]

Did you have to adjust the amp settings at all or did you just drop it in and leave it at default settings? Considering buying one of these and this would be one of the first mods I'd do.

[@sanekn]

@@wfujay3946 you got to adjust it of course to find a sweet spot. For the gain I put all settings on default on the media screen and all the crossover settings of the amp at full. Then put the volume at 75%, played a 150hz, 500hz and 1000hz with the hear protection headphone i use in the shop and went slow on the front gain till hear the distortion, then backed it off a little till no more distortion, then same thing on the rear speakers. Distortions are more easily audible with 150hz freq. after that high pass 75hz in front and about the same in the rear. Don’t know how good my method is but seem to work well :)

[@sanekn]

@@wfujay3946 I think tho, for the real good control of a sound a dsp could be a cool thing but I ain’t got any more money to throw in the sound of a polo haha. Sound deadening of doors worked nicely for the mid bass. It is nicely toight. But overall I think my setup lack a little in the mids somewhere in my car at least, while having a tad too much of highs. I’ve boosted mids a little bit and checked if distortion was ok on the amp but still there is a dip somewhere it is not as linear as I want. But yeah if I had 5k to throw at the system… There is an other little amp which has some sort of a auto dsp setting with included mic. Maybe it is better don’t know. To conclude, I like the sound it is good, jazz sounds wonderfully, pop sounds damn great, electro too. But for metal, I have the voice somewhat behind instruments a little.

[@jl_whisenhunt5734]

literally my EXACT same car and even the same brand speakers! my dad used to do competition car audio but i'm living by myself now in college- cant rely on him for everything so figured it was time i learned! thanks for your help!

[@parnellwilson5212]

Just got a 2022 Tiguan SE Black last week, love it thus far.

[@dashing2293]

I got one too hate the stock sound

[@youaake]

Nice vid, looking forward to amp/sub upgrade :) . Use royalty free music next time. KZbin is full of it :)

[@akeennash]

Just bought a 2022 deep black metallic and looking to enhance the sounds, i already have a fosgate t-0 in a 4th order box from a previous car I’m going to put in the back, so this really helps me out here thanks for the video

[@Bacardibombillo]

Interested in that future addition of door speakers. When you mentioned you tapped into your factory amp.

[@martyzuno4807]

Wish our Tiguan was a white r line ... ours is black but still gorgeous 😊

[@73Xtian]

5:35 that's a coil, it's a first order lowpass filter, it makes high frequencies roll off at 6db/octave, in this case around 4khz.

[@Smallyardguy]

Was there a big difference when you added the rear speakers?

[@marczakv]

Focal speakers and audison amp/dsp is it a good choice? I currently have Focal speakers installed in the front and back and the difference in sound quality is not that big, I have them connected to vibe powerbox. This weekend instead of vibe amp I will install audison ap4.9bit. I hope it will play even better.

[@ind347]

Thank you for this really informative video!

[@MrDubbindan]

Was this by choice picking the R line with base audio ? Looks simple. Not sure why VW cheaps out some cars though. The Dynaudio Excite drivers that they use in some vehicles are excellent

[@avighuded]

Hi, just wanted to know if you have any issues with the speaker upgrade? The speakers which focal makes specifically for VW have an impedance of 2 ohms and if the base unit doesn't have enough power then it could heat up. Also is there any distortion at higher volume? Bass depth better than stock speakers?

[@jasonin2details]

The Bass is about the same. I have no issues with the impedance. I think stock tweets were also 2 ohms? I have since added a powered sub. So on Stock Bass its one below the zero point so they are very clear and play louder than needed.

[@avighuded]

@@jasonin2details thanks, appreciate the response.

[@sanekn]

I had more bass but I’ve sound deaden my doors at the time of change so might be that

[@marcossuarez5675]

@@jasonin2details Hi Jason! Why did you not choose to use a two-way kit in the rear seats? My R line came from factory with a place for the two way kit at the back door...yours did not bring it?

[@angelramirez6320]

Hello there! Have you had any issues with the factory radio powering these Focal? Asking due to the impedance difference: factory are 8ohms and Focal are 2ohms. Planning to do the same with a 2024 Tiguan. Thanks!

[@ivanverduzco902]

How would you compare the focals with the fenders?

[@mkvpoopra]

hey i was wondering if u threw any codes when you removed ur supra speakers? and how u got rid of the cose

[@xxmeanyheadxx]

i have the 2006 touareg with the weird 8 inch woofers 3 inch mids and 1 inch tweeters, plan to replace with focal access 3 way component system and make an adapter for the 6.5. i thought about running free air 8s but i want the awesome definition up front, the rear will get 8 inch subs and box of skar evl 18s in the trunk. it's never enough though.

[@barryhill2547]

thinking about doing this in mine, was it a big sound improvement? appreciate you. Thanks

[@jasonin2details]

yEs huge. You get noticeable sound quality and volume increase. The next stage to get improvement is a lot more work, Amps and rewire and so on.

[@ariellawildefiya]

I have the fender system and feel it needs to be upgraded but I don’t know what to upgrade it with or if it, itself would be better with the doors dynamatted and an amp added

[@its.yowrld]

yeah change out the 6x9's and the tweeters.

[@Lexo593]

Crutchfield recommends the Focal RSE-165 only for the Front lower door, do you know why that is? I have a 09 Jetta 2.5 SE

[@jasonin2details]

Not sure. The set is a 2 way set so it would sound little better most likely. Not sure if one I used would fit under grill. I would call them

[@Lexo593]

@@jasonin2details Did you also end up installing them in the rear doors?

[@reesechris76]

On the focal speakers they have dual power and dual ground in the connector but your only using one power and ground per speaker. Like someone else mentioned no clipping at higher volumes?

[@dimitrilagendijk]

Do you know where the stock amplifier is placed in a vw tiguan 2017 with a dynaudio uprgrade. Since last week my volume is dead and in the settings there is a notification that indicates.....sound settings Will be avalible when message is ended, the car isnt in reverse. It happend when the volume was pretty loud. My guess is there is a fuse blown, but i Just cant figure out where to search. Hope you can help me out. Love your video for the upgrade big time and plan on follow-up your steps. Keep making video's like this. Greatings From Holland

[@jasonin2details]

In mine it was behind the glove box. Thats where I tapped the speaker outputs to feed the line converter. Not sure on 17. sometimes is under seat or on floor right in front of seat under little pop off panel

[@gary9879]

Any issues with the Focal speakers drawing too much power from the factory radio? You mentioned the Focal speakers being 4 ohms. But Crutchfield told me they are 2 ohms. That would draw more power from the amp…correct? So, what were the ohms on the factory speakers you took out? This has been a struggle to get any info on this project that you did. And you made it look so easy. Please let me know if I can use 2ohms speakers when you took out 4 ohms speakers without upgrading the amp.

[@TheWhoisDave]

5:21 are you sure IS VW 180 are 4Ω? Focals spec sheet has 2Ω..

[@jasonin2details]

Well they are 4ohm overall but since it is a 2ohm 6.5 and a 2ohmTweet wired in series that would make it a 4ohm load seen by the amp

[@TheWhoisDave]

@@jasonin2details ah, thanks for clarifying!

[@Jeremy_Behnken]

how must of that second skin did you use for all 4 doors? Wanting to know how much to order

[@christophers2959]

What size speakers does this model require

[@zacharylahlou9943]

I looked at the link for the speakers you installed. The crushfield site could not find any speaker that matches my 2022 VW Tiquan SE? Which exact model number you used? Thank you

[@proper__]

Focal Inside IS VW 180 fronts Focal Inside IC VW 165 rears

[@robertfoca8443]

do you know the power per channel? i have the stock sound system and I don t know what power rms per speaker I need to choose for tweeters and for woofers..

[@jasonin2details]

I bet stock is lees than 20 RMS if that

[@Volks2462]

Im using these speakers but with the focal impulse 4.320 amp with vw harness

[@petesheehy9507]

How do you find the setup? Considering same 👍

[@alcyone9796]

Super . Je dois faire le miens aussi il me manque l'isolant phonique et les outils en plastique pour démonter les garnitures de porte. Ou avez vous acheté cet isolant phonique ?

[@vakula485]

So are you happy with this upgrade or it's not worth it? :) Thanks!

[@vakula485]

I have decided to replace my stock speakers with Focal and unfortunately didn’t notice any sagnificant difference! Then I made some research and found out that the problem is actually with my RNS510. I’ve replaced it with newer Composition Media and the results are amazing!!! Sounds gtlreat, it’s worth 100%.

[@reesechris76]

@@vakula485 what new composition media are you using now

[@vakula485]

@@reesechris76 VW Composition Media 5C0 035 200 F (with touch buttons)

[@sanekn]

@@vakula485 Hello! Find out myself the upgrade was anticlimatic, but today i've added a focal impulse and hot damn. So you're right you gotta drive them properly for them to sound good.

[@kxlaidas1993]

but why woofer 2 ohm and tweeter 4 ohm ?

[@iiihamzapoloiii]

How many watts speaker 🔊?

[@RexNEffect]

Had a 2021 Passat r line I traded in with fender speakers for 2022 Tiguan r line. In comparison the speakers in this car are crap. Thank for this video to confirm that I wasn’t going crazy that those factory speakers are cheap. How much did all four speakers cost you?

[@eduardokarmayeshe5579]

Hi greetings from Mexico, can you please Tell us Wich sets (models) did you used for this upgrade? And in Wich percent do you consider this speaker change upgrades or boosts the sound? Thanks

[@jasonin2details]

Focal Inside IS VW 155 front doors. Its a huge improvement in output and even better sound quality. I added a powered sub last week and now it really thumps hard

[@eduardokarmayeshe5579]

And for the rear doors Wich set do you use ( model) please

[@eduardokarmayeshe5579]

And for the rear doors?

[@tadassmolskas3014]

@@eduardokarmayeshe5579 rear icvw165 front isvw165

[@zamarripa0611]

Hola! En la parte de atrás qué modelo de bocinas es?

[@Sportys1]

Are you going to add a powered sub video?

[@andrewficht8320]

Do you happen to know the sizes of front woofers and rear woofers?

[@devinpierre5285]

6.5

[@overdrive2806]

I am confused, the stock speakers are 4 ohm and the Focals are 2 ohm. This jay overl8ad the head unit

[@jasonin2details]

at 5 min mark i start talking about the ohms and I said they were 4ohm. Where did you get 2 ohm from?

[@gary9879]

You were wrong on your video. The Focal speakers are 2 ohm….not 4 ohm like you mentioned. I went ahead and put the Focals that you recommended in my 2022 Tiguan, and now are worried about blowing out the factory amp or my new Focal speakers.@@jasonin2details

[@jasonin2details]

They were 100% recommended by Crutchfield as direct factory replacement. If you are worried take them out @@gary9879

[@gary9879]

They sound great…really don’t want too. Guess I will take my chances and prove what the critics say is wrong. Hope I never damage them. Thanks for all your help and videos in upgrading the Tiguan.

[@gary9879]

You said you got them from Crutchfield at a good price. Do they ever go on sale? Seems to be list price now. Thank you!

[@davidgorby814]

They’re available at creative audio as well.

[@gary9879]

@@davidgorby814 Thank you! That's where I actually got mine from. Great place to deal with and fast shipping. Still trying to figure out if just switching out the speakers will make a difference or do I need an amp too. Have to make up my mind quick as they only have a 60 day return policy.

[@davidgorby814]

@@gary9879 They will improve factory sound with or without a amp. I actually am 1 of the 3 sales guys there, reach out to us if you need any help.

[@gary9879]

Thanks again! Will get in touch with anymore questions.

[@Iamnatewayne]

I have the 2022 SEL with the Fender audio speakers. I wonder if these would be better?

[@mjnorthrup]

Hey Nathan! I have the 22 SEL R-Line with the Fenders. I don’t mind the door speakers and such, but haven’t had much luck with the subwoofer in the trunk. How’s yours sounding?

[@djmikenice0320]

Great video and replacement but which Focal Speakers are these? You didn’t mention which model they were from Crutchfield?

[@jasonin2details]

Focal Inside IS VW 155 front doors, Focal Inside IC VW 165 back doors

[@eduardokarmayeshe5579]

IS VW 155 or 165? Can't find 155....do you mean rear speakers with tweeter integrated? Rear doors doesn't have spare tweeters?

[@nicklaz9199]

@@jasonin2details you showed the is vw 180 though.

[@ericgardner5548]

I thought all 2022 Tigs came with Fender?

[@jeffgroves4533]

Why didn’t you just get the top of the line Tiguan with the premium speakers?

[@jasonin2details]

That one had a lot of advantages except it was about 7000 more and all the trim is Chrome

[@ChrisSullins]

what sub and amp are you going to install? i bought the same focal speakers from this video.

[@jasonin2details]

I did it the other day, need to make quick video. Did a small Audison mono amp and from Crutchfield got a Kicker 12 in shallow sub box with 12 passive radiator that fires down. It rocks hard now

[@nellylepe]

@@jasonin2details hi I’m learning a lot from your video and these comments. All in all, how much did you approximately spend?

[@bensenjoe7105]

Will this work in my 2022 Passat?

[@jasonin2details]

I would check www.crutchfield.com they can help with all the sizes. As for amp you have I dont know correct answer.

[@rcr01111]

Still soft clipping on audio after this upgrade?

[@GuitarTherapy144]

You need an amp. These speakers are great

[@harounaljalal]

do you think it’s worth rewiring folding mirrors

[@jasonin2details]

In my 2022 SE they do not fold up.

[@Smallyardguy]

You had to re-solder the tweeter?

[@Smallyardguy]

👍🏾

[@Smallyardguy]

Also, how did you rivet them In?

[@aquarius-lp7ty]

Are these same size for the atlas?

[@jasonin2details]

I dont know. www.crutchfield.com would have correct answer

[@erickcastresana6494]

Pensé que la R line tenía fender

[@overdrive2806]

Looks like this guy does not reply to comments :(

[@jasonin2details]

Sorry I dont surf youtube during the day to instantly reply to your comment.

[@overdrive2806]

Appologies@@jasonin2details

[@TheVahdet70]

Test:(

[@alidulger]

Impedance 2 Ω