2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Off-Road Trail Test - No Hybrid, No Problem

We test the non-Hybrid 2022 Toyota Tundra Limited with the TRD Off-Road Package on our test hill.
CONTENTS
00:00 - Introduction
00:39 - Tundra Limited Features
02:23 - The Rattler (Crawl Control)
07:37 - Garter Way (Hill Descent Control)
10:21 - Sidewinder (MTS and Diff Lock)
14:49 - Hill Climb (4-High MTS)
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[@timflint25]

I hate that everyone knocks the classic dash. I know that most competitors are going full digital but I hate that. Real gauges and real buttons with an info display in the center is my 100% preference. I spend enough time looking at screens, I don't want my car full of 'em.

[@jasonwilliams705]

I have a partial digital and analog setup in my Ram. Works well. I guess my issue with the new Tundra is that the design of the lower level gauge cluster isn’t a major departure from the prior gen design. And the driver information center is small at 4 inches. They should have made that bigger and came with a cleaner design to differentiate it more from the prior gen. Just my opinion though.

[@michaelhorvath5556]

I live in Saskatchewan Canada. Our winters here can be -30 to -35 Celsius without windchill. Throw in a windchill and we are well into -40 below. I wonder how these digital dashboards will hold up long term given we likely need 6-8 yrs for ownership after finance. Just a thought as I agree with your statement. I drive a 2012 Toyota Sequoia Platinum which I bought new. Just turned 250,000km. It’s been bullet proof.

[@Erin-Thor]

I only care about reliability. My friends Jeep’s instrument panel has died 5 times in 3 years.

[@moloono1]

Screw new gimmicks, give me a tried and true, reliable analog gauge cluster.

[@premiercconstruction]

Exactly…. Life has enough crappy screens

[@chuckwalla2967]

Vehicle prices are truly out of control.

[@Doc1855]

I agree. They’ve priced themselves out of my budget. I suppose we will have to buy low mileage used vehicles

[@Ignite619]

@@Doc1855 you’re probably better off. If it’s a Toyota buying a used car in good condition is the way since they’re so reliable.

[@Doc1855]

@@Ignite619 I agree. I drove my Camry for 15 years. It had a gazillion miles on it. It needed a head and a new transmission so 5 years ago I traded it in on a low mileage Rav 4WD Limited with a 3.5 V6. It was a certified lease return. It’s a 2011 and only has 103K miles on it. Now that I’m retired I only drive about 4-5K miles a year. I’ll keep it for another 10-15 years and probably replace it with something like a Venza or a hybrid Lexus AWD SUV. That one will out live me, so my wife can keep it or sell it

[@Ignite619]

@@Doc1855 Built to last truly. I hope you last a lot longer my friend. Enjoy retirement!

[@Doc1855]

@@Ignite619 I’ve been driving Toyota’s for 40+ years. Yes I’ve owned a few of the “Big 3”, but Toyota’s last longer and are more reliable. I had a 78 Corolla 2 door. I got it from my sister to go to college in 83. She got it from our grandparents in 81 for her college car. When I got it, it had about 60K miles (my sister was commuting 120 miles to and from college). That Corolla got me all the way through graduate school. Since I had to pay off my student loans, I kept driving my Corolla. It finally died in 02 with 488K miles. It was then that I bought my Camry. In 11 I traded in the Camry for a Rav 4WD Limited with a 3.5 V6 and I’m still driving it today. I was able to retire early from my practice and am now 57.

[@WangJasonJun]

Fantastic video quality. Love your videos! Keep up with good works! Also that last hill climb (2WD can't even move an inch) was so impressive! No rear-locker and 4H only rides like a champ! Tundra did all this with the knockout Falken WildPeak tires LOL

[@rightlanehog3151]

Ryan, If it can do all this with Falken Mild Peaks®, just imagine what it could do with Wild Peaks 😁

[@SilveradoNomads]

I had this playing in the background and the beeps were driving me nuts as well, I don't even have a Tundra! Talk about a nanny vehicle.

[@ltyr-mr2if]

oh gahd those BEEPS!

[@zbomb33]

I love the look, can’t wait for the sequoia. But for the life of me, I can’t figure out why there are no tow hooks on the front bumper.

[@boogaloo9727]

I agree I wish the offroad pack came with tow hooks……

[@Glokens]

Cool truck but that beeping would drive me insane. It's an off road model yet it goes mad when you put it in an off road mode.

[@ArnoldTriyudho]

Imagine if TRD Pros are beeping as well

[@larryzapotocky1363]

Thanks for the great videos. I was wondering if you ever tried going up the last hill in your video without “gunning” it. I’m just curious to see how the Bronco and Tundra would do going at slower speeds. Anyway, just a thought…thanks for the great content!

[@moloono1]

I love the GX470 in the background @13:47, just chilling and having made it up the same course.

[@ALMX5DP]

Great review Ryan/Nick (and any others on the DSTV crew)! Some may balk at this, but it seems to do everything you could reasonably ask of it. May not be groundbreaking in any particular manner, but for this segment I think I'm okay with that just hoping that it remains a solid and reliable vehicle.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Agreed, reliability for the new Tundra is the $64 question. Let's check back in 2032 to see how they are doing on the QDR front. 😁

[@mmageek]

9:45 yeah that would drive me crazy Additional thoughts: imagine being stuck in a snowy situation with that beeping 😜🤪

[@Erin-Thor]

Those constant beeping warning alarms would work my nerves. Still impressive!

[@joseperezpaz9986]

Coming from 20 Trd Pro Tundra I can say my 23 1794 TrdOffroad is a HUGE upgrade! Smoother ride, more power & lots of new features 😁.

[@spartanchirho]

I've never seen a truck bed flex like that with articulation and the traction control

[@flight2k5]

Does it hurt your feelings?

[@ArnoldTriyudho]

2:12 Ram: "Am I a joke to you, Ryan..?!" 🤣🤣

[@rondail5675]

Really like that it has coil springs in rear suspension. Don't like that there are driver/user logins!! The key fobs are my login

[@Mycameron2323]

The key is your login.

[@TM-uy4jg]

Love the honesty on the tires!

[@rightlanehog3151]

True, Falken is being a little less than honest by using the same name for completely different tires.

[@WangJasonJun]

@@rightlanehog3151 Right on!

[@dieseldrax]

15:00 Any chance some of the beeps were from the front parking sensors not being disabled? Sure seemed like the approaching beep then solid tone when you got close to something and might not have only been the pre-collision function.

[@diegomendoza7472]

I’m sold. Great video bro

[@beyondthispoint5557]

The more I see these automatic off road systems, the more I want lockers and dials for traction control and throttle control.

[@Doc1855]

All those beeps were so annoying. I would hate that. The Tundra beeps more than our Outback. Another thing is that I Hate that old gloomy grey interior. Grey interior became popular in 1990. Oh well, I suppose a lot of people still like that old color. The Red exterior was beautiful. I liked how well the truck did off road. But bc of the costs of the overpriced new vehicles, I’ll just keep driving my 11 Ford 4X4 pickup. After all, it does what I need it to do. Ryan, keep the great videos coming !

[@shawnsponds]

The beeping is the parking sensors 99% of the time .. easily can be disabled

[@badbill8204]

Still needs front tow hooks for snow and mountain country. Easier access too get into the bed would be great also

[@SirGregory]

00:06 The only way to make the grill larger is to increase the width and height of the vehicle. Or maybe a wrap-around grill going all the way from A-pillar to A-pillar? Of course that's an absurd idea, but so are "my-truck-is-more-butch-than-your-truck" designs. From the outside looking in, US auto buyers are a strange mob.

[@Jim-vi4hh]

I love seeing your comparisons of the various vehicles over the same off-road obstacles. Thanks for testing the lock for the rear differential in 2WD. I have always been curious how capable a vehicle might be with good off road tires, adequate ground clearance, a locking rear differential and a selectable compound low first gear would be for most off road situations. This combination might be quite capable, less complicated and more economical than the AWD or 4WD SUVs and trucks currently being produced. Thoughts?

[@MegaRetr]

Thanks for the great videos.

[@JorgeRivera-fq9nm]

Always enjoys your videos. I think I can love that truck I haven’t even see one up close in real life .

[@premiercconstruction]

Ok like how you can see the hood as well. The seating position is high enough so you can see where you are going

[@nismomike3182]

The repossession rates over the next 2 years is gonna be staggering.

[@atg1338]

Thanks captain positive

[@nismomike3182]

@@atg1338 I'm not happy about it. Banks and dealers know they can take advantage of impulse purchases. Same as the sub prime mortgage lending.

[@GlennsHardWired]

It's happening now. The wife works at local bank...lots of people defaulting on car loans.. mortgage payments. More than she's ever seen in the last 20yrs.

[@Kiss__Kiss]

Pretty BA!!! Ryan.. Glad Toyota is letting you choose the OR package, in lower trims..

[@rightlanehog3151]

Too bad you can't get a locking rear diff as a stand alone feature with an 8 foot bed.

[@Tomorrow32]

Back in the days Limited meant the very top of the line. Limited meant no more options to add. We are at the limit. This, @60K, is really basic for the 2022 Tundra, compared to the TRD Pro and Capstone trims.

[@edu7514]

Marketing at work here to take more of your money with badge options meaning different things every 2-3yrs.

[@EDKFtravels]

Another great vid!!! All these driving nannies sure seem to make driving no fun any more. Off road driving is there specifically for the challenge and there is none any more. Glad I watched this. I think unless there is a way of turning of those BEEPS there is no way I could buy one just for that reason.

[@mikefoehr235]

Since it is a Toy Yoda is all that beeping R2D2 reminding of star wars?

[@supervong1]

Nice review. I have exactly the same truck and love it.

[@channelnamehere4065]

Can't wait for the Sequoia to be sent here for testing!

[@fuel80]

The beeps on this thing would drive me insane.

[@frankenelimtangco2400]

This is why i love toyota. 👍🏻

[@robertwinston2496]

Fantastic video. Any word if Toyota will allow a similar setup on the new Sequoia? The build function isn't available yet on their website.

[@MattSchmader]

Great video! Is it just me of is the camera under the read bumper looking at the axle flipping the image so the exhaust goes out the right?

[@steveinglese8627]

If I am off-roading for fun, I don't understand using the automatic controls. Would you want to not control it yourself, hence why you are doing it?

[@michaeldurnell7375]

I totally agree. Off roading is about your driving skills, not the truck.

[@slocavky]

awesome video Ryan It wouldn't be a Toyota without the beeps..... my Tacoma in 4 lo beeps like mad too.. lol... Keep it up man...

[@shawnsponds]

It’s the parking sensors they can easily be turned off

[@natewagner3165]

Looks like the same truck TFL owned almost identical good truck though great content

[@TheNotimprezed]

I think Ford might be the only one that let's you lock the rear in 2H, 4H and 4L. And I like that it locks pretty instantly unlike Toyota. I'm not sure if these terrain select options are very good for the average consumer. I picture the average buyer getting stuck in sand, turning on sand mode and then burying themselves to the axles or getting into mud and turning on mud mode and not getting enough wheelspin to clear the tread blocks and crawl out, etc. The ATRAC system is pretty trick and some of the manufacturers do an amazing job with their brake based AWD system (Land Rover, Volkswagen) and Toyota has really figured that out going back a long time with Land Cruiser.

[@boogaloo9727]

I dunno they test a lot of this stuff being as stupid as possible lol

[@forrest225]

Shame they won’t let you lock the rear diff in 2wd. That’s the perfect setup for fun in the snow.

[@tankconquerer5428]

Could you please also test the auto LST mode in offroading? I have not seen a single video testing it on new tundra. I have platinum and no rear lock, i really dont know if i can trust the auto LST(limited slip differencial) or not, have toyota improved it?

[@TobyCostaRica]

2:04 Ooooooo burnnnn hahahaha 🔥🔥🔥

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Wait what.. Silverado still has leaf springs?? I did not know that!

[@itsatrap4986]

You can't get a off road package on the SR trim. A SR5 4x4 crew max with TRD off road package comes in at $51k. This would be the most affordable.

[@boogaloo9727]

Yep what I just bought came to 57 otd with convenience package

[@2012bigPerm]

Tire manufacturers are stupid for selling OEM tires with less tread. When you purchase a new vehicle the first thing you say when you replace your tires that did not last 20k miles is that, Nope, never buying those tires...

[@rightlanehog3151]

Exactly!

[@redskins1120]

40k is my price limit!

[@gosman949]

you will not get much.

[@redskins1120]

@@gosman949 I know, I’ll try to get a used Tacoma.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

Before COVID, 3 year old off-lease Titans were selling for 23-25k with 36k miles. I get it, Titan is a hard sale for a lot of buyers, but If I wanted a truck with small price tag and 4x4, I’d bite.

[@gosman949]

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 still cheaper than the overpriced Chevys, Fords, and Dodges. Nice that they are made in San Antonio, and we don't have to blast it for being foreign made like those snobby BUMMMERS!

[@Zanderthelab]

My base trim WK could do that with A/S tires.

[@blackwatch7151]

What are your thoughts comparing your 4Runner to the Tundra for quality and off road ability?

[@johnnytorres277]

That approach and departure angle sucks bad.

[@fouUili684]

I agree, the last model tundra was a little better, seems like most 4wd vehicles nowadays suffer the same problem

[@edu7514]

Chase for air dynamic is a competition now

[@LSX01Nation]

Can we get the last generation Tundra Off Road to try your course so we can compare the two?

[@andrewzhuk8713]

This was a great review. The car looks nice and capable. It is pity they won't put this engine into the new RX 2023, though I believe it is going to be more expensive than this Tundra.

[@rightlanehog3151]

They are putting a 367 hp drivetrain in the 2023 RX500h .

[@andrewzhuk8713]

@@rightlanehog3151 but it will have 2.4 turbo with 275 hp and the rest will be coming from electric motor, meaning most of all 367hp will be an instant power output, not continuous. Anyway, Toyota knows better what to do with their cars.

[@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461]

I hear AC/DC in the background

[@drivingsports]

The music is AC/DC like those tires are WildPeaks. lol.

[@jameselorta6247]

I love this car, very nice color ❤️ how much this

[@descend_aviationyt]

for this package it’s probably like $59,000 to $65,000

[@Silverback_GMT410]

Those tires are similar to the Ford Mavericks options ATs. These are Wildpeak AT AT3/W vs Wildpeak AT3/W

[@drivingsports]

When we had a Ford Bronco Sport Badlands it came with the “full” WildPeak AT3W.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

@@drivingsports interesting, ima double check on one we have at my dealership. Since they don’t look as aggressive as the aftermarket ones mentioned.

[@drivingsports]

@@Silverback_GMT410 The smaller diameter versions have a less aggressive tread (not as mellow as the Wildpeak Trails, we have sets of both here at the office) but still have the deep snow “peak” rating.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

@@drivingsports the Bronco Sport Badlands we have here is the same as the Tundras and Mavs optional tire. AT AT3/W

[@drivingsports]

@@Silverback_GMT410 The tire on the tundra is an AT3W-A. Which is the “offbrand” version.

[@disturbancecontrol]

Confused: I’m pretty sure you have to be in 4L on the Nissan Pro4X to engage the rear locker, yet you state in the video, you can do it in 2WD, this is not what the official Nissan KZbin channel says. Please clarify.

[@drivingsports]

I might be incorrect about that. Might have been thinking about the Ford Ranger (which can)

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@drivingsports All body-on-frame pickups should have a locking rear diff installed at the factory!!!!

[@disturbancecontrol]

@@drivingsports Thanks for the clarification, I own a 2020 TRD Off-Road Tacoma (I love the Tacoma except for the driving position), I was thinking about buying a New Nissan Pro4X and got excited because I thought I overlooked that feature, I might have to look again at a new Ranger Tremor.

[@kevinbreese5739]

When I first saw them I did NOT like these new Tundra's at all. Mainly, I thought the grille was way over the top making the truck borderline UGLY. But I have to say this truck here in that Red color with the TRD package is sweet. I still think the grille is a bit much, but overall a very nice looking truck.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

(It's better without the hybrid.)

[@lennygarrison6836]

How so?

[@drivingsports]

It is. This configuration had plenty of power, not much lower MPG and cost less.

[@WangJasonJun]

If the hybrid could achieve much better MPG, maybe it's a better option. But Toyota choose to amplify the performance. This V6 is pretty damn powerful already for a half-ton.

[@slighwentwalking2024]

...nothing could stop him...he went all the way up...all the way up?....all the way up.

[@TreyJustice]

any more mav vids coming ?

[@ericsensible2351]

Does it have a Mechanical parking brake?. Better for Off roading.

[@drivingsports]

Nope. Mechanical parking brakes are a rarity these days.

[@peterhoma6385]

I’m a Toyota guy and own a gen3 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 and just love it , but this new tundra I do not like at all , and this is just my opinion it’s just ugly & I don’t like turbos under the hood for reliability reasons , Toyota fell short on this truck I think ….

[@rightlanehog3151]

We have a 2010 Tacoma with the 4.0 V6 in the family, let's check back in a decade to see whether Toyota did enough R&D before releasing the turbo V6 on the market.

[@Wuudsmoke]

Ground clearance is 9.4? I thought it was lower.

[@flight2k5]

You thought wrong junior

[@deejayimm]

I love how these companies spend millions and millions of dollars developing all of this technology for off-roading when all they needed to do was put an LSD in the front diff, and a locker in the rear diff. Imagine how much more affordable vehicles would be nowadays if all of these people did not insist on spending millions and millions of dollars researching completely unnecessary technology to justify their college degrees. off-roading is incredibly simple. The limiting factor of traction is the tires, as long as you can provide power to the wheels, none of that technology is capable of doing anything more than the solid state alternative. Other than jacking the price up unnecessarily. I can't wait until after the government makes electrification 100% mandatory, and manufacturers start refusing to put a motor on every wheel, so they can feel accomplished in creating some software solution to a hardware problem.

[@rightlanehog3151]

To underline your comments, I will merely add that Toyota does equip some of their Land Cruiser models with a locking front diff so they already have the necessary parts in their warehouse.

[@deejayimm]

@@rightlanehog3151 Oh yeah... You see what Toyota does in The Australian market? Real off road vehicles.

[@ToyotaNutjob]

@@deejayimm exactly. I can't fucking stand these fake bubbly plastic new age soccer mom cars. Bring me a real Toyota

[@deejayimm]

@@ToyotaNutjob unfortunately youvwillchave to move if you want a real off road vehicle from Toyota. I'm sure even if Toyota wanted to, the government would never allow them here.

[@j.davenport6065]

That thing beeps way too much! F that truck!

[@bigpoppa1992]

That beeping is annoying af.

[@JRs-guitars]

Really nice truck, but a v6 getting under 20mpg for that overall price is kind of sad when my Ram Hemi 4wd gets 23mpg with a 3.92 axle ratio lol.

[@TheTinManTJ]

Bilstein = bill-STINE 😉

[@N8RTH]

That beeping is absolutely ridiculous. I’m not sold on the quality of the new Tundra though, it kind of feels a little cheap (like the current Tacoma). Nice enough overall, but it’s not for me.

[@ToyotaNutjob]

New age Toyota ctap

[@rodolson5827]

Nice beeping video. Haha.

[@Coloradohiker658]

Hope the camera man wears some sort of snake boot.

[@raymondcbaker30]

Falcon mildweaks😅😅😅😅😅

[@ToyotaNutjob]

God dammit Toyota just give us a real Toyota product like you sell over seas. Fuck

[@GlennsHardWired]

Beep . Beep . Beep .

[@camooo101]

Drive train great! Interior great! Exterior, meh. Most importantly, there are better off road trucks available in the market. Toyota is still behind in the off road segment, not having front tow hooks doesn't help and that big ridiculous chin giving it a mediocre approach angle, and mediocre ground clearance. Even Ford and Chevy's lesser trims are more capable than Toyotas top offroad trims. They need to step up their game or just keep loosing sales. I can't imagine anyone would buy this truck for off-road.

[@weekendwarrior8179]

The more affordable 61k truck…🤔🤔🙄

[@bradbaraniuk4085]

guage cluster is fine me easy to comprehand.maybe you are to fussy.

[@kohsman313]

Would not do the same if it was a wet course

[@drivingsports]

True, but no rain expected until November at this point.

[@mirgres]

Такой обзор off-road 🤦🏻‍♂️ я на малолитражке там проеду на скорости …

[@rugged9769]

Very sensible package. $60k is a bargain these days

[@thomas735]

A bargain? Lol

[@humphreykimani3927]

I actually didnt think its such a capable vehicle

[@BG-xb3fw]

Why do you spend half the video showing crawl control? That doesn’t show us any true capability.

[@davidm.8309]

3,444 cc engine, somehow they rounded up to 3.5 to match the other brands………

[@rmoore07]

Nobody cares. The iconic ford 302 V8 (the five-oh) from the 80's and 90's was 4.94L but nobody cared Ford called it a 5.0L.

[@shawnsponds]

All the beeping well 99% of it was the parking sensors … which can EASILY be disabled

[@lav1daloca]

An $8000 Russian made Lada Niva can do this trail

[@TB-dj8kl]

Hhmmmm most people will likly take a 60,000 dollar truck off road, lol i read a comment on you tube calling the trucks of today as being pavement princess.

[@gatordunn]

hope toyota takes notes on your annoying beebs comments! Aslo you need a harder trail, would like to see what the Trucks can't do.

[@anthonyblanton9006]

Too bad Toyota has moved away from it's true off-road heritage and gone the route of all of the other manufacturers with "electronic everything." Why not just give us the reliability and true four wheel drive capability of locking front and rear differentials without all of the nonsense of "modes" and "beeps" and guessing what's going on, and that's when it's working correctly! Imagine when all of that starts to break! Half a million miles later, and the locking diffs would still be working fine, and with no guesswork - simple is better sometimes (most times, and cheaper too!) Amazing that I've been driving just fine on my own for 40+ years without something braking for me, telling me when to change lanes, driving for me, etc., etc. Give me the comfort of the new truck without all of the electronic gimmicks and gizmos please! Until then, I'll just keep my 250k mile '98 T100 4x4 - may not be as comfortable or fast, but it's long been paid for, gets basically as good a gas mileage, has tons better real ground clearance and it's reliability is proven and unquestionable! Thanks for the nice video though! ;-)

[@rightlanehog3151]

Bring back the T100!!!!. The thought of a sensibly sized truck, with an adequate amount of power, manual transmission and an available 8 foot bed sends chills down my spine! I am sure you are aware Toyota still makes pickups and SUVs with the simplicity you asked for but declines to sell them in this market.

[@anthonyblanton9006]

@@rightlanehog3151 Yeah, I'd love a 70 series landcruiser pickup! And you're right, a new T100 would be awesome.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@anthonyblanton9006 Since the glory days of right-sized pickups exemplified by the T100, the market has warped towards 3 ton pickups, with 'mega cabs', 500 hp and useless 4.5 foot beds 😬 Speaking of warped, tax code provisions and CAFE loopholes (you could drive a 3 ton truck through) are the chief culprits.

[@ToyotaNutjob]

New age Toyota plastic junk. Better buy a 1st gen maybe second gen while u can....

[@albeklik8055]

You don't need a piece of shit Ford bronco to do this 😜

[@mikewright2858]

Cafe standards ruin everything for everyone - which is why I think Toyota includes such mediocre tires on a large percentage of its vehicles. Mileage over performance.

[@whiskeytangofoxtrot5939]

It’s complete cheap garbage, the seats feel like they came out of a Kia or basically the whole interior is cheap,call it a trd off road but a mini van has the same clearance, then they want you to buy a lift for an astronomical price that’s barely lifts the truck when it should have been part of the trd offroad, they slap off-road on it but it can barely handle a gravel driveway…trucks aren’t trucks no more, now a days they’re pretty much a long thing on top of a mini van chassis, my 2011 felt more of a truck then this highway queen I now have does, which sucks it some how went from a tough untouchable unbreakable truck to something you cringe every time you hit a small muddy gravel pot hole, everyone keeps posting the stupid crawl option, whoopidy doo! Toyota needs to dial back the electronics focus and focus on making a real truck again…we don’t want a Tesla you want something we can take off road!!

[@jmilton1069]

Toyota faking the tires…..wonder what else is cheap/fake on this stupidity priced truck?

[@ALMX5DP]

I think that might be somewhat common with modern vehicles. Subaru, Ford and Honda come to mind with doing similar with tires that are branded the same as their more aggressive aftermarket counterparts.

[@flight2k5]

Yea they faked it 😂🤣

[@rmoore07]

You can probably blame CAFE standards. I more aggressive tire would have lower the MPG numbers.