2023 Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race - Highlights

[@thepirate5955]

Skin It Back! . . I heard it . . . I love the concept and format. These were the cars of my youth for sure!

[@markreilly7052]

Thanks for the feedback! Little Feat were great, it's nice that the music got noticed.

[@johnh1932]

I find this way more entertaining to watch than purpose-built drag cars on the street.

[@matrox]

me too. In the 70s and 80s I would go to the track to watch these street cars run and could relate to them more than Funny cars.

[@angelo_giachetti]

I cant imagine a person preferring watching anything on a phone as opposed to live action.

[@davidscott1619]

Same here, I raced the streets back in the 70's (66 GTO, 68 Charger, 69 Camaro, 67 Firebird) so daily drivers are what I'm used to seeing. Crate motors full of tubes pumping nitrous are fun, I'm sure, but that's a matter of racing money. High dollar wins the dollars. My goat beat everyone that ran against me (Sunoco 105 octane) except a 69 Camaro that I later found out had nitrous. I had him until the nitrous. Just over 100 mph he pulled away from me like I was standing still. He also totalled the car two weeks later.

[@ricktaylor3748]

No, these are grocery getters.

[@johnh1932]

@@ricktaylor3748 LOL. Especially if you need your groceries really quick.

[@TerryLay-sn9gg]

So many awesome cars it would be an all day event to pick just one for the favorite pick! Maybe pick top ten favorites? That would still be a challenge! LOVE ALL OF THESE AWESOME AMERICAN AUTOMOBILES!$$$

[@sirswerve2493]

Dude! This is the coolest thing in America...Hand down!

[@SurplusLlama0]

As someone who lives about an hour or so from this event every year, to me as a car guy, this is a hidden Gem and it should be much more aggressively promoted and I don't understand why it isnt better attended. We have to keep the Muscle Car Culture alive for future generations.

[@SurplusLlama0]

Also, I don't know if you're familiar with the F.A.S.T. drag racing series. It's basically like what these guys are doing except they allow minimal modifications as long as the car still "appears" stock and has stock size/type tires on it. Very very cool events!! Look them up here on KZbin.

[@willjones7132]

Great 1/4 mile action car show, wish there were more events like this. Some really cool cars to just see, let alone get to see run a full 1/4 mile. Thanks for filming the pits / line too, and posting.

[@gordocarbo]

Haters, this is an actual class of racing. Google the rules before talking trash about stock before commenting.

[@elijah2078]

If I'm correct, the quickest car was the 1963 Plymouth with a 426 Max Wedge and cross ram intake running an11:85 e.t.

[@gordocarbo]

One of my fav Mopars ever

[@SurplusLlama0]

There was a Max Wedge or 2 in this event, but the fastest car at PSMCD '23 was a Pontiac Firebird Formula. 🔥😎👍

[@elijah2078]

@@SurplusLlama0 I missed it. What E.T. did it run?

[@davez3838]

Glad to see them out of the garage!!! what a great show & Go event!! Love to see more event's like this? Just Badass Thanks for sharing. ✌️😎

[@supercuda1950]

These cars are really neat if you remember you could buy them off the showroom floor. You might not order them with 4.10's but then again you might (back then gasoline did not contain gold). Nice job.

[@CelestialWallpaperWorks]

So glad I am the age I am. Went to dealerships all the time back then to look at these cars when they were new. Lived nine miles from Yenko Chevrolet

[@jaimeperez7641]

This is great you guys will have a lot of fun. We as well watching you. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@joelhatescops]

Really cool. I've been out of time, but great to see these old cars having fun!!! Such beautiful cars. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, I don't care. Just cool.

[@jimlerum]

Nicely done. Thanks for coming to the drags!

[@tannermorgan9796]

awesome video, I love factory stock tire racing!

[@billdowhower335]

I love this! Brings back memories

[@robertstrobel6937]

I have always love the Quarter-Mile Cars of the 60’s and especially the 60’s.My Grand Pa Jim had a 1964 Dodge 440 Cornett 426 Hemi. The quarter mile stats were 11.6 seconds 126 miles an hour. Grandpa Jim only lost one race and that was another 1964 Dodge 440 Cornett 426 Hemi except this car had some work done because Grandpa Jim could see him pulling away with his front wheels off the ground at first.Well there might be two or three cars that would be quicker than Grandpa Jims car but Grandpa Jims quarter mile car would be worth a lot more than any stock car today !

[@charlestillman2823]

Seriously Cars don’t get any better when you looking up from the 40s through the 70s 60s and 70s is the Muscle era. Great Cars call enthusiast love it.

[@SurplusLlama0]

How about that Firebird Formula taking the cake?💪😎 And, never count out the 70 Tempest with that 455 HO... I do love my Pontiacs. 🔥❤️🔥

[@tcrutch65]

Anything stock under 13 seconds through mufflers is rare

[@markholroyde9412]

Fantastic, a reality show, great to see what they really ran...ish LOL. I have had a 12.80s '68 Roadrunner here in the UK 40 years, life thing for me, cheers

[@CaryKnott]

That's the highest and highest quantity of cars muscle cars I've ever seen and he had a lot of money running down that truck thank you

[@vaughnjones588]

And had a 69 Chevelle too wow, nice to see these rigs

[@1972Ventura455ho]

Great racing, a nice surprise the SD Formula going 11.98.

[@justme307]

A stock SD Formula or TA is a mid- to low-14 second car at best.

[@1972Ventura455ho]

@@justme307 A friends totally stock and never touched formula went 14.20 @ 100 mph leaving in drive weighing 4100 lbs with a 3.08 gear. It could probably go 13.90s with a open shaker and manually shifting the car. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXO9aKh_mqqZbc0si=GNYwHKkEnDIWzw2a

[@rogerlairamore207]

@@justme307yes they are several of these cars are far from stock, if you go back and check road and track or car and driver magazine from 1970 a 454 Chevelle 454 would be faster than a 340 Plymouth Duster although they were no slouch. And a 69 Camaro 396 would not beat a 1970 Dodge Challenger 426 Hemi, the Hemi would beat the 396 easily. These cars should be a little faster because o modern day tires but not 10 or 12 mph faster and 2 seconds quicker.

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

A 73-74 Super Duty Pontiac 455 engine doesn't have heads, block, crank, rods or pistons that are interchangeable with any other Pontiac engine. In those 2 year models only about 3000 were made. The block also has plugged ports for adding dry sump oiling. Pontiac payed a separate from GM racing engine company to design and build the Super Duty 455 engine. The 310 horsepower rating wasn't realistic as they squeaked it by limiting the carburetor throttle opening as well as retarding the timing. They were one of a kind engines and were very powerful as the 7:11 heads and cam had been meticulously dyno engineered to squeak past emissions tests and still deliver a LOT of horsepower. No parts available for them anymore making them irreplaceable. Somewhat surprised the owner was running such a car. A few factory installed production Ford engines are as somewhat irreplaceable but more for the carburetors, intake and exhaust manifolds. The 426 Max Wedge engine is similar in that respect as well all though several years of those were produced. It would also have the highest compression ratio of any car there as MANY Max Wedge cars were sold with 12.5 to 1 compression.

[@jamesdezarn-xt8cu]

Those Mopar cars are all business! That yellow 340 is quick. I owned 2 roadrunners a 69 383 and 71 340, the 340 was quicker than the 383!

[@bobbyeddings1031]

Just saw this video, best camera work yet.

[@matrox]

Those old cars ran damn good for no electronics, computers and just all carburetion and the weight they were pulling.

[@gordocarbo]

Plus simple 3 spd autos no benefit from 6, 8 ,10 spd trans wiht crazy low 4.xx first gears Love to see what a hellcat would do with a 727 auto and 3.23 gears

[@heysailorreedy6651]

love this, good job

[@davidowens1913]

Clean clean honest honest racing and change all the fluids

[@JoeHernandez1210]

Great cars nice video thanks 👍

[@vaughnjones588]

I had a Pontiac Lemans what a nice car it was

[@srt8rocketship241]

The little and mighty 340. Also , that Max Wedge with a slow start made up allota ground quickly.

[@gordocarbo]

Always liked the max wedge cars best out of them all. Never see them anymore

[@angelo_giachetti]

1:15 is an extreamly rare 65 Barracuda S. There is one for sale at GR Auto Gallery in MI. A survivor. Its gold with orig black stripe, V8, 4 brl. 4 speed, factory tach and it has under 2000 miles on it. Check it out.

[@roncarter5871]

That yellow Duster is fast

[@bryceocain5234]

Smoked that ls6 chevelle. I was pleasantly surprised. 340 in a light car is nothing to sneeze at.

[@gordocarbo]

@@bryceocain5234 Hornet was close on his tail .2 and 2mph difference

[@gordocarbo]

Could watch this all day! Is this event ever held in So Cal? Didnt know they made a SC hornet 360. Sleepy!

[@VansenJenessa]

I always wondered where all the Skykarks were! Michigan who knew! My first car was a 72! CANADIAN SUPERMAN APPROVES

[@neilwatson4562]

In this format do they just go by the times or does who crosses the line first supersede everything else?

[@markreilly7052]

Who crosses the line first. Reaction time is not included in the ET.

[@1Bandit455]

A Favorite car at the end for A WIN - 11.98 for the 1974 SD-455 Formula 😎

[@davidowens1913]

Clean clean honest honest racing

[@jts9120]

Love the Mopars

[@joelhatescops]

Really nice to see this show. It amazes me how good the drivers are. I can see how hard it would be to go from stret to a tacky race track. How many rpms to start, etc. etc. neet to watch..

[@davidscott1619]

Other than keeping the car straight down the track the driver's reaction time could make the difference between a win or a loss. Still to this day I'm off the line at a traffic light before the other cars know the light changed. And I'm not trying either.

[@gordocarbo]

PLus they are still running on skinny bias ply tires, most of them.

[@gordocarbo]

@@davidscott1619 Used to when I was young....after seeing enough guys speeding through red lights at 70 and creaming the first guy across the section on his green...im usually the last across.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

So glad I am the age I am. Went to dealerships all the time back then to look at these cars when they were new. Lived nine miles from Yenko Chevrolet. Own a few and rode in many more that my friends owned. Best thing about building an AMC muscle car as I did, was what we called at the time The Glow Factor. When you smacked A Chevrolet, you just knew they were pissed, and it made you feel warm inside.

[@PatandDoopypoopy]

I relate to that. We are a ford family. Yes I own chevys. Yes I race chevys (,-my dirt oval car) ,but when I blow the chevy engine up, no heartbreak. My wallet hurts but not my heart.

[@rogerlairamore207]

This announcer should hold off of the medical marijuana until the race’s are over, by the time he finishes talking about the cars at the start the race is almost over.

[@gordocarbo]

@@rogerlairamore207 All the trivia, xx made etc is irrelevant. State the yr car and let us hear them wind up

[@sergiotocchetton1938]

hermosos autos , buenas lineas colores motores geniales

[@markreilly7052]

Gracias por tu comentario. Creo que es fantástico ver comentaristas de fuera de EE. UU. Creo que Ferrari fue una influencia en el diseño de los Camaros de segunda generación y de las carrocerías A de General Motors del 68 al 72.

[@brianbloom1799]

My 67 Chevelle 300 Deluxe 468 ran 10. flat 138 1/4 mile, Now with Blower 700hp Sit in Garage do to Sickness, Sad, owned 30 years,

[@gordocarbo]

67 'El, same thing, reason. Been 4 yrs now just kills me. Refuse to let it go...sept it will be 30 yrs for me also . Started my first pool routes out of it when it was a primered heap

[@jeffjames1743]

Awesome!

[@amracingent]

Merci !!!

[@jackharrison8118]

Nice cars, fun to watch, but there were no 11 second cars in that era, hardly any 12 second cars, cars in the 13s were fast for that day, so there are a lot of not "purely stock" cars out there running!

[@mtwseneca]

What are the odds fifty year old cars have not been "upgraded" ? Nice to watch though.

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

A Super Duty Pontiac would absolutely do that. There were only 1500 made in 73 then about 1500 again in 74. Those engines had heads block, crank rods and pistons that were not interchangeable with any other Pontiac engine and the engines were not assembled at a GM factory. They also all came with plugs that could be removed for changing the pan and running a dry sump oil system. Look it up.

[@davidscott1619]

There were a lot of not "purely stock" cars back then too. Most of the time, unless you raced at the track, you added headers, low restriction mufflers, bigger carb, performance intake, fatter rear tires and maybe a beefier cam. But it's all incremental, just one more upgrade to shave off a few tenths of a second.

[@gordocarbo]

No kidding. Read the rules on pure stock class youll see why. THye arent far off from stock though Just putting a tune up on any new 60s ir 70s car and a good tire could knock tenths off easy. .if not more

[@shawnbaird2015]

Firebird 400...very good looking cars!!... rare great handling classy love the 69 rA Iv he valjed a GT😅oO😂😂😂😂

[@gordocarbo]

Love the early 70s Formulas with the snorkel scoops That T37 in the beginning was real sleepy looking

[@BobbyOfEarth]

...that's a nice 1970 Chevelle SS402

[@scotthazelton519]

Thanks for sharing

[@seahalk1]

Just awesome

[@raquanbigelow4529]

The 69 z28 messed that cuda up

[@Oldtimered]

At the start showing all the cars I got a bit nostalgic, then I kicked my own @ss for selling my '69 Z/28 in 1977. D@mn! I miss that car.

[@matrox]

Yep...wish I would have kept some of my old vehicles like my 67 Ford F100 stepside 6' Bed with a 352 and 4:11 rr, or my 69' 383 Road Runner. But my current car in a 17' Super Sport Camaro with a 6 speed manual so it takes away the pain.😁

[@davidscott1619]

I sold the 67 Firebird I built to a brother-in-law cheap before I left town. Never should've done that. It started out an inline six and ended with a built 350 from a 72 Ventura. 12.5:1 compression, TRW domed pistons, roller rockers, 513 lift cam, 750 Holley double pumper, headers, TH400 built for the track, 4.10 posi rear.y buddy totalled his Ventura that he just put $1500 worth of parts into the motor. I stopped at his shop and saw the motor on the floor. He said it would be great in my Firebird (running a Chevy 327 at the time with T-10 4-speed) so he let me have it for $200. Really, and I only paid $100 for the car from a guy who won it in a poker game. Paid $150 for the trans (my mom"s next door neighbor owned a speed shop), forget what i paid for the rear and headers. And I added a floor for console to cover the hole in the floor. All used parts except for the parts the motor. Really should not have sold that car.

[@gordocarbo]

That was the one car I never got to own! Had every version of 67 and 69s other than the Z. Even a 70 Z

[@gordocarbo]

@@davidscott1619 70s and even in the 80s you could mod cars that cheap. Junkyards were full of these cars with all the good stuff under the hoods. I remember seeing nicer cars in the junkards than flippers on CL sell today ie these rusty patina pos.

[@stevejohnson6858]

Are all these cars actually fully certified to be stock? Some of them running 12.90s and 13 teens on bias ply tires seems really fast. Not that some of them couldn't as they had the HP to do so but those old bias plies would spin like crazy.

[@mtwseneca]

I suspect traction compound is on the track, but the mph is high for quite a few so they may be modded some (smile).

[@299charles]

All stock….

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

There are cars this day required to run Coker supplied redline bias ply tires that run mid to low nines in the quarter mile. The tires have most of the tread removed and have had the sidewalls broken down so they wrinkle some. I doubt any of these cars were running tires that have been through that treatment but it proves that low times can be run on stock size bias ply tires similar to the tires back in the day. I didn't believe it until I saw it !!!

[@Noise-c5u]

Wish we could go back to basics.so much fun.and lots of memories.i miss it

[@Noise-c5u]

These cars are pure muscle . no turbo no supercharger.take away this from these plastic cars and they are going nowhere.this is the real deal

[@gearyheidinewaccount3237]

That COPO Chevelle!!....and the 327 66 Nova L79

[@gordocarbo]

That little shoebox L79 ran pretty darn hard! 13 anything is respectable fora st car even today Lots of internet talkers, quoting stats but have them take thier 12 sec late model car down the track they will be running 14s...maybe 13.

[@MH-53E]

I can't believe so few people are at this event. People got no money for boomer entertainment these days...

[@gordocarbo]

Only ones who arent married to a celphone attended. Remember when stands were packed I was a kid.

[@gordocarbo]

It costs nothing to go to the dragstrip to participate or watch! Gen x baby boomers etc still leave the house to have fun not stay at home watching a screen in a dark room.

[@ogtfno]

🔥🐐🔥

[@rogerlairamore207]

By the time That announcer is describing the cars several of them already took off, and you can’t hear what he is saying.

[@gordocarbo]

Less talking more revving. Trivia drivel etc just not needed.

[@BenCarling-z9l]

Duster w the 340 was kikin ass - the red vette was fast too

[@gordocarbo]

60s Cuda and that Hornet 360 were impressive for what they were.

[@jeancharlesrabaux5658]

On adore vos voitures et elle sont bien à vous une américaine reste américaines poind moi aussi je serait ennerver qu on rachète ma marque mais je pense que c est pour votre bien Peugeot acheter gmc CHRISLER si c est la veriter ce que bc de gens on du mal a le croire ils etait en en faillite 🙏

[@davidhenderson3895]

You might as well race the darn things!!

[@rickyrunner7619]

nice bunch of old school muscle cars that is when cars were sharp and no computerized B S

[@Nokšė0]

coooool

[@dutchbailey860]

Do they ever do a tear down on the motors of some of the faster cars? I had the pleasure of living during the Muscle car age, I NEVER saw a 350 Nova go 11'S stock. Regardless of who put the motor in, Yenko of Nickey, they just were not that fast stock.

[@markreilly7052]

The Simpson guys are serious racers. However, I think this same car was running about 13 seconds a few years back. It has a 4.56 rear, and probably has the shift points up at about 6500 rpm. Probably not a highway cruiser.

[@gordocarbo]

@@markreilly7052 4.56 gears, a tire, dist. recurve richen the lean emission's tune up some most any car from back then would come alive.

[@bluesky-ud9wg]

What's wrong with the Stage 1? 85 mph....

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

I suspect that the owner wasn't interested in flogging the guts out of it but it could be as simple as the reproduction mufflers on it were made in china or possibly the cam isn't the exact cam that actually cam in the production car. Imagine a stage one with the cam from a 455 Electra........ Stage 1 should mph at least 101.

[@gordocarbo]

@@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 what cam came in the electra?

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

​@@gordocarbothe factory cam specs for the Electra, Rivera,Wildcat and Lesabre have less intake valve lift, as much as 23 degrees less duration, a wider lobe separation angle and the exhaust valve opens 6 cam degrees sooner after combustion. Those differences don't sound like much but the heads on a Stage 1 455 have bigger valves and the 70-71 engines had higher compression than a standard 455 so those cam differences were worth at least 25-30 horsepower.

[@gordocarbo]

@@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 Youre spot on! Takes lots more than some may think even following the rules than most would think. Theres chassis tweaks, many runs to make it leave, etc. Shame SO many with these cars convince themselves "oh I cant drive it omg my Gollum!". Must be filling a void Thats stupid, if these guys can do it Leno can lots of us daily these (have been for most my life)...no excuse Those same guys will drive a 60k truck off the lot and daily it...whats the diff? haha

[@jeancharlesrabaux5658]

Juste un petit compresseur wieland comme j avait sur mon el camino 77 et sa roule bien 580 ch avec un 383 forger stroker sa va mais 11s8 jamais mieux mais si j avait du nos ou nitro la sa aurait etait autre chose vues qu il était renforcer j aurait pue me permettre mais voilà en France on interdit tout sans même savoir ce que c est mdr 🙏👉👍

[@markreilly7052]

Un deuxième quart de mile de 11,80 dans un El Camino de 1977 avec un Stroker 383 suralimenté ? C'est plutôt cool. In English: An 11.80 second quarter mile in a 1977 El Camino with a supercharged stroker 383? That's pretty cool.

[@299charles]

Belvedere 11:85…..4 the win

[@dublkrossr2059]

If I won the Lotto I'd build a 413 Max Wedge with that massive iron crossplane intakes, 331 or 392 Hemi barracuda, slant 6 Duster, and a 69 Roadrunner with a 440 and 8-71 running on methanol and 100's more cars

[@walter68bug98]

I’d have a 71 curious yellow 340 duster,white interior,rally wheels,go wing or…a 70 gtx (or roadrunner) 440 6 barrel n96 air grabber,727 or 4 speed,white interior limelight green

[@srt8rocketship241]

Not picking , but I believe the Max Wedge is 426 cubes.

[@dublkrossr2059]

@@srt8rocketship241 might be lol I like the older crazy stuff

[@srt8rocketship241]

@@dublkrossr2059 hey , the 413 with the long ram manifolds are stuff of legend that still makes appearances from time to time. Check out the Beach Boys song shut you down or Jan and Dean song Little Ol Lady From Pasadena. That's nostalgia.

[@dublkrossr2059]

@@srt8rocketship241 Yeah those long cast iron intakes had to weigh as much as a Prius lol

[@user-vn6vx6rf7d]

Cool, but most of these cars are not "Pure Stock". They look the part, but you'd have to ADD a good 2 seconds to many of them, to have a better indication of how they ran back in the day.

[@Rondleswango-p8g]

I like to have a Judge like that or a Gto i can clone into a judge 😅 also a jailbreak Harleys ❤❤❤ it would be hilarious considering my background and history 😂😂😂😮😢😢😢😢 really not funny lets just say ironic shit you couldn't even believe it in a movie

[@davidscott1619]

I knew a guy who did some time for stealing cars. After getting out he owned a used car lot. Nothing wrong there for sure wink wink. 😮

[@clyde5491]

Where are the Boss 429 Mustangs?I see very few fords.

[@markreilly7052]

I am very curious how a Boss 429 Mustang would run there.

[@matrox]

Why are so many of these stock cars so much faster than the same model stock cars that are running if in fact they are all stock?

[@troygoetz5517]

No way are they "Pure Stock". That 340 Duster ran 2 seconds faster than they did back then. At 3200 lbs +. . .no way it's factory stock. Maybe the title should have read "Close To Stock". But it sure was a fun video to watch!

[@matrox]

@@troygoetz5517 Just found they are allowed bolt ons like headers, and intake mods.

[@gordocarbo]

If you read up on the rules youll see what is allowed. Its not much but sure helps.

[@brianbloom1799]

I wish The announcer would keep up Before they Leave the Gate, I never hear, what was in the second car.

[@gordocarbo]

I wish he would shut up....announce the yr make CI of ea car and nothing else.

[@ya_boi_m.t4000]

The racing starts at 3:18

[@jimbailey7997]

👍

[@ludedude5228]

In today's world of 12 second Factory Camaros , Mustangs and 392 Challengers , It's amazing how slow these muscles cars really were back then , Most doing the quarter in 14 or 15 seconds with a very few in the 13's or less . Today's muscle 💪 is yesterday's reality "

[@matrox]

What classifies as pure stock?

[@markreilly7052]

There are some modifications allowed. www.psmcdr.com/rules

[@ct5465]

Great cars. People forget the classic “muscle” was slower than a modern 4 cylinder grocery getter lol

[@gordocarbo]

most grocery getters are just as if not slower. who cares, 60 yrs of tech cars better have improved

[@WilliamDavis-k8c]

I'd like to race, but my car has created a motor in it, a 1990 LS6 CHEVY CREATE motor

[@justme307]

Nice creation.

[@gordocarbo]

1990 LS6?

[@Poohdaddymagic]

Nice view of concrete barrier. Ruined it all

[@gordocarbo]

We all saw the cars just fine. What a buzzkill man

[@fredflintstone505]

With some of the times on some of those car, they were not stock.

[@matrox]

22:30 Ain't a 69 GTO.

[@markreilly7052]

The announcer did make a mistake there.

[@jeancharlesrabaux5658]

Est quand je dit compresseur pas les énormes la non un petit je crois qu on dit un 9 je c est pas je voudrait pas dire de sottise

[@David-er1cy]

Gm cars ruled

[@rogerlairamore207]

Not so much back then from factory, most of these cars are far from factory specifications. A 1971 Plymouth Duster 340 should not beat a 1970 Chevelle SS 454. A 1969 Camaro 396 should not beat a 1970 Challenger 426 Hemi. Even though it was a close race here. From factory it wouldn’t be close the Hemi would leave it bad

[@bultacowally]

@@rogerlairamore207 Driver talent has a LOT to do with it in drag racing at any level...

[@rogerlairamore207]

@@bultacowally yes it does, I know what to expect from cars of that era, my first car was a 72 Plymouth Cuda it did beat a friends 70 Mach 1 351 and a friends 74 Firebird Formula 400 and my cousins 70 SS 396 Chevelle, Richard Petty couldn’t win in some of these match up’s like a 396 Camaro beating a 426 Hemi Cuda, the race was close and in reality it wouldn’t be, any one that has these expensive vintage muscle cars one would think they would know something about them.

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

​@@rogerlairamore207Street factory hemi's could be beat .Saw it personally back in 1970,by a stage buick

[@rogerlairamore207]

@@stefanovichmichael9686 I’m sure both have beaten each other, but the street hemi needed some tuning but nothing major to make them really wake up

[@bigtires100]

Pure stock my ass.

[@gordocarbo]

They do a pretty tough inspection...google the rules of pure stock.

[@josefeibl8230]

Enjoy taking my stock, unmodified, V8, n/a Mercedes CLK 550 to the track and easily run low 13's in Comfort mode! All for about $4k. Plus 22mpg and a convertible.

[@jts9120]

That's not American Muscle though.

[@gordocarbo]

What does your husband drive?

[@gordocarbo]

@@jts9120 Its a hhetto hopper with more than 200k miles I bet

[@antilaw9911]

Those cars NOT pure stock!!! Joke

[@gordocarbo]

Read the rules. Still have to get creative to run well

[@gordocarbo]

Wrong. Look up the rules of pure stock its a class.

[@justme307]

Watching stock cars from yesterday going down the 1/4-mile is like watching moss grow. An Accord 2.0t Touring would trounce most of these cars.

[@markreilly7052]

I own a 2019 1.5L Accord LX, and it's a mid-15 second car.

[@gordocarbo]

Watching modern hondas are even worse. Enjoy the mom mobile, btw no honda made back then ran better than 0-60..eventually.

[@justme307]

@@gordocarbo I mentioned the 2.0t Accord simply as an example of how technology improved cars over the last 50 years. I could have mentioned other modern cars, but we know those running 9's, 10's and 11's right of the showroom floor would totally trailer the old fabled cars of the past.

[@srt8rocketship241]

These cars have big value $$$. These cars are sweet looking and big value.

[@gordocarbo]

An accord is one of themost boring grandma cars I can think of. There are cars the same yr as that honda that can smoke it. So what?

[@ixlr8677]

grab yo subsidy. sure.

[@BenCarling-z9l]

The SD 455 trans am is one fast car

[@calripson]

Rules allow a bump in compression ratio of 1.5. This really wakes up the low compression 73-74 SD motors and shows what beasts they would have been pre-1971.

[@BenCarling-z9l]

So who won?

[@davidowens1913]

Clean clean honest honest racing and change all the fluids