2023 Refresh Model X, Three Times is a Charm

This is the 3rd Model X we have owned (Oct 2017, Oct 2020, Oct 2023). Here are my thoughts after the first 2,000 miles. ts.la/thomasl4949

[@wesrobinson7366]

This is the best Model X reviewer around. Yes, once you get ventilated seats, you don't go back. So wish I could get my partner into loving this car. She just wanted a sporty car not a Tesla but hoping she shifts to this one soon. I love the Model X but need a truck based on my fireman duties.

[@modelxevfun2858]

Thanks for the kind words. The X is a big car, and certainly not to everyone's taste in style, but it does get up and go, that's for sure. It will be fun to see if the Cybertruck lives up to the hype and I'm sure it will be fun to drive. Thanks for tuning in and for posting. Stay safe.

[@arronhoang1153]

Wow all very great information. I agree with your first two dislikes. I’d love to have the door open all the way and customize trip info on the front display

[@modelxevfun2858]

I'm sure I will adjust to the new normal over time, but yes, Tesla could add some of these features back via software. Since only the X and S have a front screen, I suspect they want more uniformity between the models, and we probably have little hope that they will add more options to the front display.

[@richardchandleriii5003]

Something I,as a new X owner has found,is that the top of the steering wheel blocks out a good portion of the top of the display in front of the driver. This is where the FSD advisories illuminate. I just recently missed my first one in two years and now have incurred my first ever Beta “strike”. Seems like these advisories could display on the center screen also.

[@fuaark2748]

You are incredibly well spoken and open-minded. Great review on this new model X!

[@modelxevfun2858]

Thank you kindly and have a great December.

[@quanstevenson6963]

Great info, thanks for sharing!

[@modelxevfun2858]

I appreciate the post and thanks for tuning in.

[@paulwinter9672]

Beautiful , thanks

[@modelxevfun2858]

Thank you too!

[@rdk3996]

Great video. Thank you!!

[@modelxevfun2858]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for tuning in and for posting.

[@johnqcitizen9177]

👍 Great video. Glad to see someone with a 5 seater. When you get a chance could you measure in the trunk from the bottom of the rear seat to the pull handle of the rear lower trunk. Thanks

[@modelxevfun2858]

With the rear hatch closed, the distance from the back of the seat bench to the hatch is 47.5 inches. The hatch slopes inward as you go up and the seats slope backward so 47.5 inches would only be available for a very flat object. The distance from the back of the seat bench, 15 inches up from the false floor to the closed rear hatch is approximately 38 1/2 inches.

[@johnqcitizen9177]

@@modelxevfun2858 thank you very much

[@larryandkarennelson]

Thanks for posting this. I followed your lead in 2021 when I bought my Tesla Model X. I just might do it again!

[@modelxevfun2858]

We hadn't planned on getting another X, but the recent price reductions and Tesla's "one time" offer to transfer the full self driving was just too hard to resist. An added bonus is that our 5 seat no options version also qualifies for the tax credit. I had convinced myself that there weren't enough improvements between our Raven X and the Refresh X to justify an upgrade but I was wrong in that regard. We don't live anywhere near a Tesla Store, so the first time we were able see the new X was when we took delivery. If you happen to live near a store, see if you can arrange a for a test drive. I'd be curious as to what you think.

[@toology55]

Have a 2016 X and looking forward to getting my new one in a month or so!

[@modelxevfun2858]

That is great news. Here is wishing you a great delivery and many more years in your new X. :)

[@squishylemon8577]

My dream car!!

[@modelxevfun2858]

We sure have had more fun with the X than any other car we have owned. Thanks for tuning in and for posting and I hope your dream will come true.

[@joakimbjorkman1784]

I agree with your conclusions, I really like the yokewheel now, was weird in beginning but really like the restful placement of the hands at the flat bottom of the wheel driving on the highway. Do prefer a stock for turnsignal, just easier exiting a round about. Thanks for a great video.

[@modelxevfun2858]

There sure are pros and cons regarding the turn signal locations. Where I find it most useful is for initiating a lane change when driving on auto pilot. On the whole I do like them better than the stalk. Thanks for tuning in and for posting.

[@utbunny]

Don't worry, 90% of people don't even use the turn signal when exiting a roundabout anyway.

[@stevenhill3136]

View of mountains was amazing and congrats on the new Tesla

[@modelxevfun2858]

Thanks for tuning in and have a great week.

[@TheElliotSerge]

Thoroughly enjoyed your video sir! If I may ask which camera have you used when filming inside the car attached to the dashboard?

[@modelxevfun2858]

Three different cameras were used for this video, a GoPro Hero 11, a Samsung S23 Ultra cell phone, and an Insta360 X2. The opening sequence was recorded with the 360 and the section from 0:30 to 4:00 were on the GoPro. Most of the shots after 4:34 were recorded using the cell phone. You can see a reflection of the camera in the sunglasses. I'm using a mini tripod on the dash for these shots. Of the three, the GoPro gives me the best results, but it can be finicky at times and that was the case on this day, so I switched to my cell phone to finish the video.

[@TheElliotSerge]

@@modelxevfun2858 Thank you so much for your response and insight, I truly appreciate it. Fantastic video quality as always, keep up the great work!

[@SuperSeanobrien]

I wish I’d found you sooner so I could have used your referral code. Thanks for the footage around Alpine.

[@modelxevfun2858]

Glad you found the channel. Thanks for tuning in and have a great week.

[@brucenelson8087]

Congrats and thanks for your review - appreciate hearing your thoughts on the lack of stalks. You didn’t mention how well the drive selection works to auto select drive or reverse? Also is it much of a stretch to manually reach it? It’s a shame the front doors don’t fully open now, I think it’s close to my most-enjoyed feature. Guess they removed the sensors. I’m still loving everything about my August 2018 X, has free everything and my only expenses have been tires. Since I’m practically deaf it’s always been extra quiet 😛 I also hope FSD v12 is the game changer suggested, the latest version remains basically unusable for me in city driving. Highway is ok but lacks steering accuracy maintaining lane position, especially in narrow lanes and corners. Until it offers a chauffeur mode, I can’t see using it with passengers.

[@modelxevfun2858]

Hi Bruce. It is very easy to select forward or reverse using the touch screen. The car automatically selects reverse when I'm backing out of the garage, but it doesn't change to forward after the backout (my driveway is at a right angle to the garage door). It automatically selects forward when I'm pulling away from a curb and there is no one in front of the car. I think there is room for improvement in Tesla's implementation, but for now it is fine, and I have no problem understanding what the car wants to do and it is easy to make a correction if I want it to go in the opposite direction. I'm sure it will become second nature in no time, and I don't miss the stalk at all at this point. The door issue is a bummer. The doors still open and close by themselves, they just don't open more than about 6 inches. Some people have said that the motors and hardware are still in the door and Tesla neutered the feature when they removed the side ultrasonic sensors. Others have guessed that they limited the feature because they had too many instances of damaged due to excessive wind. I don't know what the truth is. It would be great if it is a programming issue and they could implement it with a software update in the future but at this point, I wouldn't count on it coming back. We had free supercharging with our 2017 X and it was hard to give up when we traded it in, but Tesla was only charging 14 cents per kwh at the time (Oct 2020) and I didn't think is was a big deal. Those same locations are now running almost 40 cents per kwh. Ouch. I'm really looking forward to v12 of FSD. I've actually been a bit surprised by the FSD performance in this vehicle. It is far from perfect, but it does seem better than our previous car. It is hard to do a direct comparison, as our new X is on a newer version than what we had in our previous car, but I'm more hopeful than I have been in months. At any rate, thanks for posting and for the positive comments. Take care and have a great week.

[@chukaokonkwo8642]

I’m not sure if it’s just peculiar to the 2023 version but my 2022. Reason has the doors opening fully if you come close enough to it at a specific angle (facing towards the driver door not from the side)

[@brucenelson8087]

@@chukaokonkwo8642 A follow-on question re Falcon wing doors - if they do NOT have the sensors, have you tested whether they will stop opening when an obstacle is detected?

[@stargazerr3474]

So beautiful on that drone site ! Where is this? Earth is just beautiful!

[@modelxevfun2858]

The drone bonus segment was taken near the Palisades Dam in Eastern Idaho. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palisades_Dam Thanks for tuning in and for posting.

[@jkpinpdx]

Interested to see how you outfit your Tesla model X for winter use… I just ordered my model X plaid edition and it should be here in November December in Oregon. (I got the standard 20 inch rims due to an easier availability to traction devices/snow tires for that size versus 22 inch rims)Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work!

[@modelxevfun2858]

I still have the 19 inch rims and winter tires that I've used on our previous X. They have ample tread so I will use them this winter on the new X. As a side note, I also transferred the all weather Lloyd mats from our previous X. The front floor pan is a bit different from our Raven X, but they will work. Check out my previous videos on my after market winter rims, tires, and floor mats if you are curious. Thanks for the feedback and I'm sure your new plaid will exceed your expectations. :)

[@bt4b4]

@@modelxevfun2858what’s your thoughts on the 22inch wheels versus the 20inch ? Price, range ….

[@modelxevfun2858]

@@bt4b4 We have owned 3 different X's, all were equipped with the 20 inch wheels. Most people prefer the look of the 22 inch option as there is less tire sidewall. I have stayed with the 20 inch wheels as they are the cheaper option, offer a bit more range (335 vs 322 EPA rated miles on the 2024 base X) and in theory, they can withstand a more severe pothole hit without damaging the rim. All those issues are important to me over looks, so that it where I'm at.

[@bt4b4]

@@modelxevfun2858 thank you for the insights

[@xwpfan2]

Hello. I just put an order in on a Model X last week (same color as your Tesla but I decided to get the yoke vice wheel). I'm coming from a Model S 100D. I'm really looking forward to your video about winter range with the refresh X. I wish the doors opened more as you stated.

[@modelxevfun2858]

I reset a trip meter when we installed the snow tires on Nov 1 and we have driven 3122 miles so far this winter. The average consumption over that distance is 318 wh/mi. My records show that we drove our previous X (2021 Long Range Plus) 3 full winters, putting on 14,069 winter tire miles, with an average consumption of 353 wh/mi. Our typical winter trip is mostly highway, 100 miles round trip, driving at 65 mph on two lane rural highways. We are fortunate to have a garage, so we always start out with a warm car. This is our first winter with a Tesla equipped with a heat pump. It has been warmer than normal this winter, so it is hard to do a fair comparison, but I do think that the heating and ducting is an improvement over our previous cars. The heater puts out a lot of heat and warms up quickly. The coldest temperature we have driven this car this winter has been -20 F, but a more typical drive would be around + 15 F. I think the winter range is better with this car than with or previous X. Somewhere in the back of my mind I remember reading that Tesla estimated about a 10% winter range benefit of the heat pump over the previous version and that matches my statistics. Have fun with your new X. We love ours and it has been our best Tesla to date.

[@xwpfan2]

@@modelxevfun2858 Thank you so much for your reply. The hardest part of getting a Tesla is waiting for it to come in! I think having a heat pump will be a game changer. I live in Northern Va and our winters do not get as cold as where you live. It can get into the teens and on occasion, below zero. However, I do a lot of road trips throughout the year. Take care.

[@cliffmiller3703]

Where'd you get those glasses? I'd love to get me a pair.

[@modelxevfun2858]

These are prescription sunglasses from glassesusa.com. The frame style is Martin (I don't know they still have this frame) and I chose the mirrored gold lens option.

[@Kursor17]

Are you able to comfortably rest your right elbow on the armrest while holding the round steering wheel?

[@modelxevfun2858]

Yes, it is very comfortable for me. We have already been on a 1200 mile road trip and I do like the new arm rest position on both the door and center console. I'm 5' 8", so I don't know how well it would work for someone with a larger or smaller frame, but I'm happy with the redesign.

[@autocad35]

Are you all experiencing delivery dates are accurate right now? Ordered 9/13 with an EDD of 11/1-12/13 🙁. Looking forward to my delivery - Model X Plaid w 20” wheels, expected Nov 1-Dec 13! 🙌🏼

[@modelxevfun2858]

There is a great thread over on the Tesla Forum where everyone is discussing their order and delivery timeframes teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/deliveries-of-80k-x.310995/page-84 The demand for the X has been very heavy the past month due to the price reduction so wait times have increased for new orders. We are very pleased with our new X, so I think it is well worth the wait. Thanks for posting and best wishes.

[@ArmaniXperience]

Were you leasing the other Model Xs or did you buy and then sell them after those years?

[@modelxevfun2858]

We purchased each Model X and traded in our two previous cars to Tesla

[@SuperSeanobrien]

Fellow Wyomingite, nice review. We’re also buying an X in anticipation of a Cybertruck.

[@modelxevfun2858]

The X is an amazing car. I'm sure you will enjoy it as much as we do. We do need a few more Supercharger locations to fill in the gaps in the State. For my purposes, Pinedale, Shoshoni, and Cody would sure make travel in the State a lot easier. I don't know how far down the list we are on the Cybertruck but I think it will be good to wait at least a year so that Tesla can work out the bugs.

[@vce.john1734]

During winter time I know Wyoming is harsh with cold climate but how owing a tesla over there I don’t mind living cold climate it not big deal.

[@modelxevfun2858]

@@vce.john1734 This is our 7th winter driving a Model X and it has worked well for us and for the type of driving we do. We are lucky in that we have a garage and a 240 volt 40 amp wall charger, so most of our charging is at home. Cold weather does reduce the car's range, but most of our trips are less than 200 miles ( 322 km) so we rarely have the need to charge outside our home. We have taken some long multi day trips in the winter and the Supercharger network is fantastic for that purpose, but you have to plan properly and make sure to charge the car at the Supercharger after the day's drive is over and not wait until the next morning. A cold soaked car will still charge, it just takes longer as the battery has to warm up first. All in all, there are more positives to owning and driving an electric car in the winter than there are negatives as long as you have the ability to plug your car in each night at home.

[@vce.john1734]

@@modelxevfun2858ok thank you for information

[@lnguyen2690]

Practical opinions and traight forward.

[@modelxevfun2858]

Thanks for tuning in and for posting feedback.

[@Anthony__420]

Seems like the first two dislikes can be fixed with software updates if enough people complain. I’m test driving now. I took it overnight. Have a 2018 Model 3 and like you have a cybertruck on order. I’m very early reservation holder but now that these are so affordable I may take the plunge 😊

[@modelxevfun2858]

The price reduction and the now expired offer of full self driving transfer was just too hard for us to resist. We now have nearly 5000 miles on our car and we just finished a 2,300 mile road trip to the midwest. The car is better in nearly all respects to our 2021 trade in (August 2020 build) for long distance travel. I don't know if the extra cost over the model Y is worth it for most people as we haven't owned a model Y, but we do like our new X.

[@Anthony__420]

Also this car charges wicked super fast

[@modelxevfun2858]

I agree, especially when compared to our 2017 100D

[@Eddienet]

I heard the Cybertruck will roll out end of 2023 or begining of 2024 to special people and will take atleast to end of 2024 or begining of 2025, the roadster will be insane do with a 1000km range and maxed out It will do 0-60mph in 1.6 sec. But I agree we all wait for the cybertruck its rumoured to have longrange also över 1000+ km on one charge. Nice video ty

[@modelxevfun2858]

Thanks for watching. Hopefully we will get the scoop on the Cybertruck in the next few months.

[@Eddienet]

@@modelxevfun2858 I listened to Elon talking about the truck, hes fantasy is a rocketlauncher on the back of It:) Jokes aside will be fun when the cybertruck rolls out on the roads.

[@ramzik8763]

What exterior color is this?

[@modelxevfun2858]

Midnight Silver, August 2023 build date.

[@kpsher367]

I am trying to debate myself a switch over from my current Model Y ( 2020 ) to Model X 2023 Plaid.

[@modelxevfun2858]

Our previous X was an August 2020 build. It was a great car, but this model (August 2023 build) is a better car in many respects. I've not driven the Plaid, but I'm sure it is an amazing ride. If you live near a showroom, see if you can arrange a test ride, maybe even an overnight. I'm sure that will help you decide if the model change is worth it for you.

[@NVGEAR]

How did ask or get the transfer of FSD to a new Tesla?

[@modelxevfun2858]

It was a limited time offer that ended Oct 1 as far as I know. I think Tesla will have more incentives as sales are slowing, so check often. I've heard that their latest incentive is transfer of free supercharger if you trade in an X or S that has free supercharger grandfathered in. Be sure to check with Tesla for details.

[@TeslaElonSpaceXFan]

Tesla Model X ❤❤

[@modelxevfun2858]

Thanks for tuning in and for posting feedback. Have a great week!

[@KJSvitko]

Tesla needs more service and collision centers. You should not have to drive to the next state to get your vehicle repaired. Northern Indiana is a Tesla service and collision repair desert. Have to go to Chicago suburbs for repairs. What a traffic nightmare. Tesla needs to think about service centers like they think about charging stations. You should only have to drive so far before you find one.

[@modelxevfun2858]

I hope that Tesla adds more service centers as well. We live 220 miles from the nearest one in my area. We have used the mobile service a few times and it has worked very well

[@youngchirp12]

You don't

[@youngchirp12]

When I got my Tesla repaired I didn't have to go to a Tesla service center that got third party service centers collision center that partners with Tesla and you can take it there as well

[@KJSvitko]

None in Northern Indiana @@youngchirp12

[@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM]

FSD is very disappointing, still drives like a drunk 16 year old. You must be in WY or MT, beautiful states.. But they obviously hate EVs with their charging map. ND/SD are pathetic for road trips too. Hope you’re enjoying 2023 5 seater, just did the same upgrade 2019 100D (pre-Raven) to 2023 5-seater, I also miss the trip stats on the front dash. Also noticed the steering wheel block left side of center screen… Kinda annoying. Also annoying no w/shield sun shade included. Look forward to winter range review vs Raven.

[@AyahuascaDataScientist]

Sounds like Elon hates Wyoming.

[@modelxevfun2858]

It can be frustrating at times but we are starting to see a few CCS charging stations in the central part of Wyoming away from the interstate. otterspace.us/ has installed 2 stall CCS chargers in Dubois, Pinedale and Lander. With the one in Dubois, it might now be possible to drive the leg from the Jackson Wyoming Supercharger to the Evansville Supercharger. The distance between these two superchargers is 290 miles and required a much longer 404 mile route via Rock Springs.

[@utbunny]

It's likely just a matter of demand. Gotta focus on where the majority of the people are first.

[@monneyconde2676]

No one loves a sweaty sack 😂

[@modelxevfun2858]

🤭 Luckily we don't have the extreme hot temperatures where I live, but I did go on a hike the other day and the air cooled seat felt really good after we finished the hike.