2024/25 NBA Season Win Totals: The SHOCKING Best Value Lines! | The Hoop Collective

[@dskwared2u610]

It's Windy's show but there's no Hoop Collective without a collective.

[@Nopenopenope23]

Wasn’t Windy just saying ‘it’s our show not mine! We’ve been doing this together for years’ just a few weeks ago?

[@scottipippen6554]

Bontemps isn`t annoying. He is the prototype of a nerd. And he fits perfectly with the other two nerds here. I love them all for being like they are. That`s how friends are when talking about their biggest passion in life.. Keep on the great work, guys. Much love from another nerd out of Munich:)

[@wileyschmitt]

Nah, he's super annoying and always sounds like he's talking with his nose plugged, plus he interrupts constantly. He's not a 'nerd' per se, he's just a dork.

[@NonNBAchannel-ol1mb]

bontemps is unbearable

[@aggro3333]

Love hearing Windy shut Bontemps up for interrupting for the 4378th time

[@BlizzardAcolyte]

Word--I actually want ESPN to give Bontemps his own show at some point, he clearly thinks he could handle having his own platform for forty-fifty minutes an episode at least, and I would love to see if he sinks or swims on that thought process

[@aggro3333]

@@BlizzardAcolyte he knows his stuff but his voice is awful. He has clear and obvious biases as well which I don’t think would work well if he was driving the show. The fact that he didn’t even vote Wemby top 3 for DPOY really annoys me as well lol

[@WhereIsYourID]

​@@aggro3333 Yeah i generally like his input but he cant stop getting in his own way lol

[@eobardjohn]

HOLD YOURE WATER, IS THIS YOURE SHOW?!? - WINDY 🌬🌬🌬🌬

[@MrOctober44]

He has some major insecurity that he constantly feels he needs to be heard and shout over someone.

[@evanbatsford6436]

He was taking in the BBC?

[@tc2172]

Seems like it’s been his favorite part so far 😂😂

[@ongs.-h.7297]

"is this your show? just relax" OMG lol

[@mescudi971]

Brian is always so fkn stressed 😂

[@Secarstra777]

“Taking in the BBC” - Windy

[@Phizzo4real]

😂😮

[@AK-pz7om]

Could make an argument that he did that for LeBron for the first 13 years of his career

[@remymorgan9630]

​@@AK-pz7omDamn...Dammmmmmmm!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Secarstra777]

@@AK-pz7om violation 💀 you know he’s going to see this

[@AK-pz7om]

@@Secarstra777 lol it’s facts

[@mitchperkins1922]

Oof. Bontemps woke up insufferable today.

[@mctaguer]

The AD + Bam pairing must stay. It is the nuclear weapon no one has an answer for.

[@DD-sr9xm]

So most of the basketball will be in Lille rather than Paris. Lille is up north near the border with Belgium and is more Flemish than french. But Windy should love it because most of the dishes come with a big helping of French fries. The awesome thing though is how different the dishes are. Like the best dish is Les moules frites, steamed mussels with French fries. Awesome. Also great is their le welsh which is Welsh rarebit, or super cheesy ham and cheese. And for breakfast, they bake the original and best ever raisin bread called La cramique, perfect with cafe au lait. Please don’t order americanos when in France, go in to the coffee shop, say your best bonjour to everyone, order “bonjour, cafe au lait avec une tranche de La cramique s’ils vous plait” and you’re golden. Don’t forget “mercii” and to leave un petit conseil

[@92KM1]

The South Sudan comment aged well

[@mobadreddine4414]

I have the utmost respect for Windy. He knows bball and keeps it 100. I’ve been following his podcasts and commentating for years. Best basketball analyst out there, period! Love you Windy! You’re the man!

[@Cookie_Ninja14]

dont forget legs!

[@larrlarr5316]

Of course one of Windys favorite places to be is London, which everyone seems to dislike

[@Earl_E_Burd]

Bontemps yelling about the Pelicans and his perception that it's basically plebs who are betting on Zion makes him sound contemptuous. 13:57 Then he does the usual thing where he acts like MacMahon's opinion is an attack on his intelligence and interrupts to be defensive. Know-it-all can't grasp that other people exist. We want to hear other opinions, not a defensive ego.

[@mctaguer]

Yes. I've watched France (watching them simultaneously with this v Canada). Their entire offense is VERY thin can entirely disappear for stretches. I think the US could hold them under 65 points. Seriously.

[@stevengordon3271]

France's guard play is very poor.

[@millercmdn]

Brian had both lunches today. He’s in a good mood.

[@horai8256]

Thumbnail has Wemby but Spurs was barely talked over. Such clickbait

[@desmondfowler9598]

Bontemps can't looking like JJ Reddick with that backwards hat 😂😂😂😂

[@mescudi971]

LMFAO

[@user-el3jr9he7c]

Brian obv got one of those wonderful massages that are available in Abu Dhabi...😂

[@jasonhilgefort5184]

i advise all that haven't taken in much of these 3 before... skip til the end... they have tons of things they drop... but them baggin on each other... IS the show. love it

[@Cookie_Ninja14]

good comment sir

[@vellebechillin]

this just saved my afternoon

[@mctaguer]

Windy...you can die from that kind of exposure. I'm not kidding. Yes, I was in Kuwait several times, by the sea, where it can also get humid. On THOSE days, you need to get TF inside.

[@seandart4729]

BOOST this he has no clue how lucky he was …

[@Marco-uh5zn]

Great pod today!

[@user-rf3ug1hd1q]

How about a playoff podcast dinner? Surely Bontemps will have free time to travel? 3:33

[@IW4523]

London not even the second best city in the UK 😂

[@henryslatt9041]

The chemistry on this show can only be rivaled by FTF

[@FourPawsInTheGrave]

Must be part of the new NBA TV deal, no audio.

[@afifsamirnasreddine3768]

Where is the audio missing? I'm a few min in and it's still audible

[@dskwared2u610]

Did you reboot? The IT guy always makes me reboot first. Sometimes it works. Now see if you can figure out why the ads are louder than the show.

[@charliesmarts1]

This is the Windy show... and we are all The Collective.

[@FrenzySports]

Underrated bets: Grizzlies over 47.5 wins Raptors over 30.5 wins Clippers over 40.5 wins Cavaliers over 47.5 wins All 4 will win & surprise.

[@MrOctober44]

Clippers are impossible to guess because of Kawhi.

[@mambaASI]

Raptors over is a bad bet. They only won 25 games last season and that was with siakam playing 40 games and OG playing 27 games. They are probably going to be worse, or best case scenario the same. Clippers over is probably a bad bet too. Most of the other teams in the west actually got better or stayed the same for the most part. Clippers got significantly worse, and they have to rely on 2 old star caliber players in harden and kawhi. Highly doubt kawhi is playing over 60 games next season now that he's gonna have to do more every game. The other 2 are decent bets but not much better than a coin flip chance to win the over.

[@freeman0048]

I would definitely bet against all 4 will win

[@mollyweir9350]

​@@mambaASI Raptors will be over! If you care to watch the team play you will see that last season was a yr transition with 5 iterations of the tm.

[@ericmmelin]

Raptors - they don’t have a bench and lost two of their best players. Plus, this year’s draft is the one you desperately want a high lottery pick. Pray the raptors don’t hit the over so they can get better down the road.

[@mordecaidrake]

Is this what ozempic face looks like?

[@martyc1960]

Just watched the USA vs South Sudan and all I kept hearing was a very apprehensive Windy hesitating to prematurely declare the USA Men's Basketball a given in this day and age. The one and done format is the risk for this team to possibly be the biggest upset in USA Men's History.

[@pedrocm2523]

Talk about Cooper Flagg and potential tanking teams. Talk about the clippers

[@1AceIAm1]

Windhorst hates the Mavs.

[@thefebo8987]

Everyone does

[@jaysmith4357]

@@thefebo8987Facts and it’s unwarranted jealousy imo

[@mikecantin7760]

@@thefebo8987practically the entire media picked them over the Cs though

[@benitofranklyn4237]

LeFraud, LeBronze and LeOld. The trinity, all coequal in one person.

[@taylobeats6745]

17:58 Shamu had a tantrum like SAS🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 when Bron retires he’s gone as well

[@hottake8940]

Orlando: best over by far

[@mctaguer]

Agree with Windy's forecast. I've watched Canada, France and Serbia three times each now. Serbia has the best shot, but the US already exposed they can't match up w/second unit. Serbia will have to play their starters 36 minutes to have a shot. I haven't seen Serbia play Canada--that would be interesting.

[@mollyweir9350]

Canada played their 3 stringers in the 4Q vs U.S & got the lead down to single digits twice s All NBA talent that Kerr had to call time out twice but you wouldn't know based on how U.S media & their fans are acting. Did uou watch Canada earlier vs France? Jamal didn't play & the guys look great. Canada only weakness is their bigs & against Wemby & Rudy 2 of the so called best defenders in the NBA they played well.

[@kicrocks]

As a spurs fan, 35 wins is still iffy. I wouldnt take that number over or under. OKC, DAL and Boston i think are all Over i think

[@shawnevans26]

As a Magic fan, I’m looking forward to the season!!

[@seandart4729]

What’s up w Bontemps right eye? On the left of the screen. Terminator Timmy

[@mattk720]

No sound?

[@ianr1318]

The Hoop Collective my A list

[@claytonsteele5980]

The term you were looking for the entire time was “the bucks win total is JUICED” to the over. That’s what it means when a one side of a bet is offering shorter (higher -) odds than the other

[@claytonsteele5980]

Windy constantly referencing the odds but either not knowing what they mean or failing to communicate them, was hilarious tho. Just hope with ESPN having/sponsoring/promoting their gambling service, this is the kind of thing that they will get clarified with their on camera talent.

[@pink_kid8861]

are the Knicks really towards the top of the east? I just don't see it, I feel like max a 7 seed

[@randycrenshaw9817]

1:10:11 windy about to kick this dude off the pod lol. I vote for me to replace him lmao

[@mhz90718]

49:16 Yes Tim, it's because of the sweat; or else they would have brought out Paul Pierce's old wheelchair 😂

[@EvXXL97]

windy said fallback small back this is my show

[@fabianschaeuble5717]

Warriors over is the safest bet. The under is more difficult. I would probably take the spurs.

[@drazi12]

Love Windi, but he messed the whole episode up. He was so confused on the lines. He should of just said the number(-125/+150 etc)

[@migueldominguez9235]

No audio

[@MrOctober44]

Just you

[@36cmbr]

Wemby is the most talented defensive player in the NBA, I’m reverse laddering SA into next year’s playoffs to the title. Wave goodby to Draymond.

[@jamesbowsher-murray128]

Message for KZbin: too many of the same BBC advert playing nearly back to back.

[@hottake8940]

Okc won't hit their win total. They had insane health last year and that catches up with everyone. 51 to 53 wins.

[@hottake8940]

Once the playoffs hit, there isn't a team in the west that can beat Dallas. Okc got better, but so did Dallas and Dallas beat them easily in 6. As a Dallas fan in not scared of okc in the playoffs. The most unproven team to get this much hype that I can remember.

[@joeknapp9162]

Donavan’s paid, he’s gotta let Garland get his

[@mikecantin7760]

49:19 😂😂😂

[@afifsamirnasreddine3768]

53:47* for Team USA

[@WheresWaldo05]

Lol. McCollum is starting for the Pels. So either Murphy or Jones is 6th man.

[@mattwhitely1067]

Id bet the under on sacramento

[@semi6544]

You guys are overstating those 55 games Kris Middleton played. Most of those 55 games were heavily minute-restricted. Middleton's injury is scary because it just isn't definitive.

[@michaelread5316]

“I was taking in the BBC” - Brian Windhorst….. not surprised

[@slow_Jo]

The real question is...Who's going to win the Cooper Flag sweepstakes.

[@stevengordon3271]

Not hard to predict who will have the best odds, but nobody will know until the lottery is held.

[@mattwhitely1067]

Embiid should be playing for france or cameroon then us fd

[@nicholaseaster58]

Bet the over on Boston and under on the Yucks. Easy money!

[@alex77195]

Windhorst has a stroke if he doesn't glaze someone from the Lakers franchise every 90 seconds

[@dariusbrooks21]

Technically this US team has more current/former MVPs than the Dream team had at the time

[@mambaASI]

the dream team still had way more total MVP trophies compared to this team USA

[@ericmmelin]

Not true. This roster has 8 MVP trophies and only one of them came in the last 6 years (Embiid). Lebron 4, Steph 2, KD and Embiid 1. 1992 Dream team had 14.

[@dariusbrooks21]

@@ericmmelin players like Barkley, Malone and Jordan won the majority of those MVPS after those Olympics tho so there’s no telling how many total this team will eventually finish with.

[@seandart4729]

World wide windo world wide ego 😂

[@ryanrowe1975]

🔥

[@PouonoHB]

Team USA is even more trouble for the world now that KD is back. Curry Jrue KD LBJ Embiid Second unit Hali Ant Tatum Bam AD Booker White

[@PouonoHB]

2028 Hali - Brunson - Sheppard Ant - Ja Morant Jaylen - Flagg Tatum - Paolo AD - Chet - Kel’el Ware

[@danielnanowski9644]

Okemo resort im on my way

[@808bAler]

The Mavs sucked before the ASG last season. They got better this offseason bringing in Klay, Grimes and Marshall while only losing DJJ and Hardaway. I think 55 wins is doable.

[@kpNov23]

Kidd doesn't really care about the regular season

[@unconditionalLove1]

Just take Nigel Hayes if KD can’t play

[@Fl01892]

COME ON YOU SPURS!

[@kpNov23]

COYS!

[@AshyLarryBoi]

How easily this guy gets pissed when mentioning AD. Didn't even mention the Lakers and he's pissed

[@Cranicus]

Very important to get some bbc every now and then. Reality shows are very relaxing

[@mattwhitely1067]

He isnt a good point of attack defender that they need because of lillard and gary trent also cant shoot.. Soo i mean he is ok but how much is he really worth I am not sure..

[@claytonsteele5980]

I’m 32 mins in and they haven’t come across a win total they wouldn’t take the over on… I wonder if the hosts think every teams record combined at the end of the year would be over .500

[@mambaASI]

LOL ikr. All these wins they're projecting aren't gonna come out of thin air

[@smgyro1476]

Milwaukee will win at least 54 games if fully healthy this year. Bet on it

[@freeman0048]

Would u bet on them being fully healthy?

[@smgyro1476]

​​​​@@freeman0048Yes, Giannis getting two freak injuries in a row isn't something I think will happen again, and they still happened later in the year. Dame is also typically very healthy. Khris has more questions throughout the regular season, but I think they are built to still win plenty of games even when he doesn't play. At the very least I think they'll be healthier than plenty of the other teams they are gonna play in the league. Khris is also more durable than he's given credit for. His injuries have been freak ones as well. Not consistent reoccurring issues like Kawhi. He can't control KD entering his landing space and turning his ankle

[@fakeprestongarvey]

memphis is the easiest OVER outta the whole list

[@chopstick107]

swear you guys didn’t watch the draft lol the pelicans took a center first round his name is yves missi

[@natashakuzmanoska9656]

OKC had chad and went to get center. you need 2

[@chopstick107]

@@natashakuzmanoska9656 for sure but they’re like “they don’t have a center on their roster” they did what they could to address the depth in that room

[@valis14]

Bontemps is right about France. Their guards are trash and you have to believe it's politics playing a role. Traore would be better than just about every guard on that squad and he's only 18 and yes, even Killian would be much better than Albicy. I feel bad for Wemby but with that subpar guard play there's a chance they are one of the big disappointments at the Olympics and get eliminated early on. You wouldn't think that until you actually watch their guards struggle to even inbound the ball against Serbia's ball pressure. They were retiring Parker's jersey that night, they should've been asking him if he wants to put on the jersey and suit up; that's how awful they are. And the other side of the political pecking order on the team is they don't really run the offense through Wemby even though he's above and beyond their best player because all these other guys are trying to get there's including Rudy Gobert, who the other team doesn't guard AT ALL outside the paint, but is there in the paint to do his patent, stone hand fumbling of even Wemby's best passes. France will be better in 2028 when the pecking order is cleared up.

[@marcelosands614]

TIM Hate the lakers lmfaoooo

[@riveenwickenham8392]

Bontemps glazes the warriors and hates the lakers.

[@jaysmith4357]

BONTEMPS DOESN’T RESPECT & HATES THE DALLAS MAVERICKS! STOP PAYING PEOPLE AND GIVING PLATFORMS TO PEOPLE WITH A CLEAR BIAS & AGENDA! Notice how he suddenly uses logic and injuries or suspension’s for the Warriors last season but didn’t acknowledge how the Mavs were the most injured out of all the major west playoff teams last season and didn’t have two crucial pieces to their playoff success until the deadline,where the Mavs then had the league’s best defense!!

[@objyashad1542]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@seano6859]

Tim better stay away from Killington and Okemo.

[@michaelread5316]

At least once an episode Windhorst reminds everyone that he thinks he is Jesus f*cking Christ

[@qmac6494]

People I know inside the Grizz organization expect Edey to start for them his rookie season.

[@kennethgenarts5928]

Dear NBA, please fire all reporters who voted for Jokic and SGA over Luka for MVP. As well as those who put Gobert over Jrue as DPOY. Many reporters no longer watch games, they just look at box score and standings. Poor basketball competency. Luka and Jrue were robbed by the award, playoffs proved everyone wrong.

[@thomasoneill8846]

😂

[@damonthomas2975]

I also had Luka as my MVP...I personally thought Wemby was the DPOY though. Admittedly that's a lot of box score scavaging from myself and I know Jrue does a lot of things that doesn't necessarily show up in the box score.

[@JayElDiplee]

Luka was not the MVP. SGA was. You Mavs/Luka fans cry about everyone else as much as he cries about “missed” calls. 😂😂😂

[@lionofduty9804]

You mean over wemby

[@WhereIsYourID]

Jrue was not DPOY what are you yapping about

[@xXiTzxAsTrOXx]

Bontemps gotta be the most annoying reporter ngl

[@stringtheory8090]

Bbc reality is my life😂

[@tc2172]

😂😂😂😮🧐🫣🤣

[@Big_AL_Nowitzki]

Pause

[@stringtheory8090]

@@Big_AL_Nowitzki 😂😂😂 aaayyoooo (in my Cameron voice)

[@Big_AL_Nowitzki]

@@stringtheory8090 mase would like a word 👀

[@MrOctober44]

Kind of old to wear a backwards hat Tim. 🙄

[@andrewcoles3769]

Surely it's time for you guys to realise that NBA players aren't that much better than other players around the world. Just because a player gets paid millions doesn't mean they are more effective between the lines. Pull your heads out of your ignorant NBA echo chamber

[@Earl_E_Burd]

A person who acts like a computer that regurgitates past knowledge, with poor intuition, low EQ, and a lack of self-awareness is not great at making predictions.

[@vPleadful]

Slate

[@stevenhs9773]

Boston will 'only' win 60 games. Knicks, Philly, Indy, and Milwaukee will gain 5 to 8 games because the rest of the East got worse or stagnated. Detroit, Wash, Charlotte, Tor, Bklyn, Chi, and Atl are all tanking. Miami and Cleve got older and stagnated, and Orlando will probably improve by 2-3 games because they're not good enough to gain wins against the Top 5. -- In the West, only Portland and Utah are 'rebuilding'. SA, Hou, and Memphis will gain 5+ games. Phx, Clippers, Den will lose games. GS, Lakers, and probably Pelicans will stagnate. Sacramento, Dallas, and Minnesota are wild cards - they prolly win the same amount of games only because the bottom of the West got tougher to beat. And OKC likely gains and wins 62+ games.

[@mollyweir9350]

Raptors is NOT tanking. If you don't know about a team and the way how their FO operate don't speak on it. I gurantee you you didn't watch an ounce of Raps gm last season . You all looked at the end record. Fyi, last season was Raps worst in the last 14 yrs. The first under the Masai era. If you know who this man is you would no tanking is not part of his DNA.

[@WheresWaldo05]

Lol. I think the warriors are even worse. They are washed. Done. Smoked. Cooked.

[@AdamLovesHorror]

Don’t record if you’re not ready to record Windy. This was insanely poor listening and understanding of odds or information.

[@liammmmcculloch]

Lowe post > hoop collective