2024 450 Motocross Shootout

[@SKG1941]

I bought a brand new Suzuki 450 with a Yoshimura pipe out the door for $6800. I promise you 98% of the people reading this cannot ride this Suzuki any faster or slower than any other bike on this list. Also, if you are not riding Supercross you can simply blister some of these $11,000 bikes. Has a lot more to do with Rider than the bike. I am 59 years old and could not be more happy with the Suzuki. I’m never going to do a triple but I can have just as much fun maybe more for half the price. Think about it before you go and buy a motorcycle you cannot handle or ride to its full potential….. just saying

[@guillaumestgermain-yn3zv]

Thats 100% right

[@someoneyouknow96]

People don’t want to hear the truth. These “mags” are here to sell bikes and hype them up. It’s all marketing and complete BS. 30 fucking years of shootouts and the bikes get better every year? Fuck off with that nonsense. Plus, these bikes are still heavier than their early 4 stroke ancestors. Hype, hype, hype!

[@SKG1941]

@@guillaumestgermain-yn3zv 👍

[@nathanneudecker6516]

Hell yeah - recently picked up a new leftover '23 for $6,200 OTD and couldn't be happier as a vet-aged beginner. Way more bike than I will ever be able to handle at an incredible value.

[@someoneyouknow96]

@@nathanneudecker6516 congrats! I would have snatched that up in a heartbeat too!

[@RIDEreviewRELOAD]

That KX seems perfect for weekend guys. Kawi bikes are great🎉

[@Davido50]

Mediocre compared to KTM group bikes.

[@RIDEreviewRELOAD]

All the brands copy each other

[@Cam___]

Exactly. These guys are average riders and like the slower bikes

[@stmboat]

I think Kawasaki took steps forward in handling/geometry for their MX in 2003 with their KX250. Since then you never heard anyone complain about kawi's overall handling. I had a 94 and 00' before my 03 and the pre 03 had to be forced into turns. This is of course in stock form. All were stock and the 03 turned on rails.@@RIDEreviewRELOAD

[@stmboat]

The whole point of my long winded response was because I agree, I think Kawi were copying the others at this point.@@RIDEreviewRELOAD

[@shorelinefilms9661]

The 25 shoot out is gonna be crazy with all the new bikes coming out

[@DEVFORCE151]

I really hope so!! New updated Honda and Suzuki would be awesome ❤️💛

[@stevesmith756]

Not all. Yamaha and Kawasaki are at the front of their model cycle

[@lennartdiedrich2734]

TM, Fantic, Beta, Triumph, Ducati

[@CodySimoncelli-of7xx]

What’s new besides a triumph being added?

[@ZmannR2]

⁠​⁠@@CodySimoncelli-of7xxBeta, Ducati, Stark

[@dn059]

The kawi looks mad 🔥

[@gzuzchrist1314]

Wat is a kawi

[@dormantmenace]

I just like how the gas gas looks like a late 80's early 90's honda lol. Just some of the most iconic looking dirtbikes ever. In my opinion anyways

[@Davido50]

The new Hondas have an odd color red. Your right the GASGAS looks far better + better engine/clutch/transmission. KTM group brands hard to beat & worth the $.

[@leonardoammannati7516]

Form me Suzuki, best quality price and looks so cool!!!

[@Josh.Mangelson]

What are you talking about? The Suzuki hasn't updated much of anything in the last decade, far behind the parts on other bikes, yet only 1,000 less than a Kawi. Not worth it imo.

[@leonardoammannati7516]

@@Josh.Mangelson For a sundey's rider like me is perfect is cheaper than the others, realy good looking and super easy to ride!!!

[@stevesmith756]

Kick starting a 450 during a hard ride sucks. And it’s heavy

[@andrewpereira1117]

Not at all. Once ur used to it lol

[@stevesmith756]

What Josh said. Suzuki is way too expensive for a 10 year old design. If they are not going to spend the money to update it. Then it shouldn’t be more than 5k out the door. Same molds and assembly line. They are not putting money into the bike, we should have to pay almost the same as the other brands

[@CBCycles]

Wonder where the KTM 300SX would place in this mix..

[@warrenyoung7503]

Definitely more fun that’s for sure lol

[@codystrom8708]

@@warrenyoung7503 slower bike more fun?? I’ll stay with the 450

[@rokuabtor6834]

Yeah, when will you guys add in the Beta?

[@K-Rivs]

Team green! Too bad it took years for them to get rid of the EFI couplers. Had a 19 KX 450 and loved it.

[@Davido50]

New KX450F is much slower than last yr. All have said. They will have tough yr in '24 moving bikes.

[@K-Rivs]

That may be the case, but I assume Kawi wanted to make their power more useable. Most power in the class means nothing if you can't control it and Febrve seemed to have zero issues waxing the field in MXGP. 450's these days are almost too fast. I know I'm faster on my 350 than I was on the 450.

[@tristangelske7910]

How’s the weight feel on the Kawi vs the Yamaha? Is it noticeable?

[@benmartin6476]

I wish the beta 450rx was in here

[@jeffdacey4673]

It would have finished just ahead of the rmz450.

[@jerichokid903x]

You don’t know Jeff

[@hulkhulk5141]

@@jeffdacey4673😳

[@SOMEDRUNKPANDA123]

They need to put the rmz on the real out the door price. In my area 22 450f is going for $5700 out the door

[@thecommonsenseconservative5576]

Post a video of that

[@Bonsignore4U]

The music is too much

[@jkell411]

If brand reliability was a factor, the Kawi would not win in a close shootout...

[@peanutjellyman]

Talking out of your arse

[@motomania128]

Have you owned a KX? I’m guessing no.

[@jkell411]

@motomania128 , yes, and many friends have. They are notoriously less reliable. It is even mentioned in many shootouts. A big one is their use of cheap hardware. They've gotten better over the years, but they're still near the bottom.

[@motomania128]

I had an FMF muffler fall off my bike on the track once on my 2016 and they were blaming the kx for that lol

[@motomania128]

I personally think the poor reliability card on the kx’s is overplayed. I hear of stuff and see things on other bikes don’t think reliability is an issue on modern kawasakis.

[@williamgoske1178]

Rmz. With a pc pipe, not the yosh.

[@dekancaine]

Still love a Honda. With 24* clamps that bike is insane.

[@Davido50]

Suspension stinks stock. It's an unbalanced chassis. Engine is fine. Not a Honda fan overall. Too many tradeoffs vs other brands like KTM & Yamaha.

[@jeffjones5063]

Adding weight is not acceptable in this arena. Yamaha woke up, dropped weight, made a huge diff. 5-10 lbs. is a lot. Try to lose 5-10 and see what it costs!

[@jandextermedallo1824]

Finally i got the honda crf last week 😍

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

Nice 👍

[@Green_stax]

I would love to see Suzuki come out with some “X” models like Honda, Kawi and Yamaha have done

[@kurtheidelbach]

X models? 😂😂They haven’t had any R&D for years. Haven’t done anything with an E start or any other mods for a base model.

[@ratherberiding5964]

Suzuki made a rmx450z for a couple years. 2017/2018 or something. Had a headlight, electric and kick start. No one bought them so they went away 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@nickblaser992]

@@kurtheidelbachthe kawasaki and Honda models just slap a kickstand and a 18” rear on them with some softer valving, a bigger tank in the hondas case. Don’t need much r&d for that

[@kurtheidelbach]

@@nickblaser992 Yeah, not much of a market for a 4T kick start woods bike these days. Suzuki gutted their product line already.

[@nickblaser992]

@@kurtheidelbach this is true. If they did put an E start on the rmz250 would honestly be pretty potent for woods. Handles tight turns better than most of the others

[@DestricaUKGaming]

Why is the sound design so awful? Had to change the volume about 10 times throughout the video.

[@audidreamscometrue]

emissions requirements most likely

[@DestricaUKGaming]

@@audidreamscometrue I mean the video, the bikes sound fine. The transition between speaking to music and back is terrible.

[@audidreamscometrue]

oh lol@@DestricaUKGaming

[@markbury1788]

Why do you ignore the TM motocross bike?

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

THE TM importer moved back to his home country. Hard to get our hands on one now

[@joeymostly847]

Well done!!

[@dlocomx783]

Imagine if Suzuki came out with a factory edition that have a KYB set up off of the rmz250 put on electric start an a ported head they could get n the top 3

[@shorelinefilms9661]

Are the gas gas and husky frames the same as the new ktm’s? Was hoping they’d leave it the old frame.

[@Cam___]

The husky has less suspicion travel, meaning the rear shock mounts are in a different location so yes the frame is different. Also different sub frames

[@sakariputtonen2683]

Nope, same frame. Difference is in the shock leght/lingage@@Cam___

[@stevestiffler9120]

Same here. their old frame was much better

[@skierdude9759]

Why does the ktm have 23 graphics ??

[@aydenrich262]

Same exact bike as last year

[@renejork2146]

Is not. They worked on the suspension adjustment for more fine tune abilities to compensate the rigidity of the subframe

[@nicholascanjura5051]

Yes LETS GO!!!!!! it's about time

[@buddhistpriest1357]

SC1 makes me feel. Yeah, it makes me feel. Shiny and new. (Hoo!)

[@plumbit111]

Hope to see Ducati in the line up next year.

[@kurtheidelbach]

They are going to bring the heat

[@ZmannR2]

And beta

[@ZmannR2]

And triumph

[@ericlessard5021]

And sherco

[@kurtheidelbach]

@@ericlessard5021 Is Sherco in the game? Haven’t heard anything about them

[@deakin123deakin9]

The green team 💚 love my kx braaaaa braaaaaaa

[@Hadencmiller]

💚 Kawi forever!

[@That5.7Guy]

What year do you think triumph would be added to a lineup?

[@MrSuperflydude]

Next year as a 25 model

[@That5.7Guy]

@@MrSuperflydude I definitely wanna buy one just after it’s been out a few years and let other people test them😂

[@aaronkaplan3220]

For kawi ones a Brimbo ones a nissin?? Weird

[@guillaumestgermain-yn3zv]

I bought a brand new 2022 Kx 450x, the dealer where i bought it have Honda ,Yamaha and Kawasaki and he told me that reliability its the same for any of these 3 brands

[@innerfire-graham9016]

Why leave out the Beta 450RX?

[@2wheelsteel167]

The price point is always the issue. Not everybody who buys one will ride it to its full capability. 11k is a bit much for a sport that is seasonal, depending on where you live. I ride street bikes as well and average is 11k it's no way to justify paying the same price.

[@gilly3380]

Thank you for not taking the pay day for putting brand x on all the bikes, and testing them with their respective oem tires! I totally ignore and thumbs down the testers who sell out and then make the excuse "to keep things fare / consistent, we outfitted them all with brand x"

[@JOEMAMA.95]

WHENN Will you guys be testing the 2024 Ktm 250 Xcf please answer! Hahaha

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

Soon we promise!

[@mikebellows754]

Where do you get the number plate backgrounds used on these bikes?

[@aydenrich262]

Decal works

[@JOEMAMA.95]

When Will we get to see the 2024 ktm 250 xcf?

[@lukemorbiz9264]

Non c'è Beta RX, TM MX, Fantic XX? Mancano tutte le moto italiane 😢

[@davidkanalos6710]

If your not a pro rider any 450 has plenty of power and great bikes .

[@Josh.Mangelson]

And if you're a pro rider, you're riding a works bike.

[@nate_942]

Youre right, still good to know which is the best bang for the buck and how they compare to each other

[@hulkhulk5141]

I think you’re right, weight , cost ,reliability n grunt are interesting.

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

There is a reason why they never compare power wise old with new kx or KTM..2009 Vs 2024..probably old ones was more powerful and brutal..they mellow them now and they confused us with some talk about who and some crank hp..the 09 kx was 53whp plus ..60hp crank..only 19 crf450 I think hit 60hp crank

[@Josh.Mangelson]

@commantrosexetlos4700 yeah, the 2009 KX450F is what sold me on 4 strokes. Manufacturers have mellowed them since then.

[@driftmax5180]

I love SUZUKI, i dont need e start a like kick start, my rmz start on 1 kick.....

[@aydenrich262]

And so does everybody else, we’ve gotten pretty soft with having e-start this day and age

[@jonmcdougal9334]

All of the Austrian bikes have a composite sub lol not just the husky

[@kylelangworthy9641]

Yeah, didn't they switch to the hybrid subframe this year? The husky always had it, But KTM and gas gas added it for 2023 correct.

[@SoSlo2]

Slightly disappointed to see Beta USA was unable to get the 450RX out in time for the shootout. It is supposed to hit floors in the next few weeks. When might we expect to see a review of it from @DirtBikeMagazine ?

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

As soon as they are available we plan on testing one!

[@foxpilot17]

Hey Dirtbike, you really need to pay attention to the bikes you’re testing..The Suzuki DOES NOT come with a Yosh exhaust, it’s ProCircuit. Do better guys

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

Sorry a minor mistake when you test 300 bikes a year. The lines blur. Hope you have a better day. We can only do our best. Would love to see your work!

[@HairryBushjr]

@DirtBikeMagazine Don’t get so salty for someone pointing out you messed up at your job. Props for testing the Suzuki though, unlike other media outlets.

[@foxpilot17]

@@DirtBikeMagazine….my work? how so?

[@crf122]

How come you guys rode the 23 ktm and not the 24?

[@aydenrich262]

Same thing

[@brandongambrell]

Wondering that as well

[@FrankieLawson-n8x]

Who ever complained about backfiring and after fire flames and sound? Lol that’s the best when your in the air throwing a steezzy whip and POP blue torch flame

[@ZmannR2]

Means it’s not tuned properly

[@northernmichiganadventuree7476]

Dude, you guys cant do a 2024 450 MX bike shootout without the BETA 450 RX! This is such BS!

[@davidciesielski8251]

Thanks guys!!!

[@mk-yd2fw]

Az don't have any Mx tracks

[@jesusfreak3587]

what a shame!!!!! verde mx & speedway were the SHIT!!!! TOO BAD I MISS my AMX DAYS!!! 05-12

[@zackk695]

Just get rid of them and build 2 strokes. These sound like hell and they’re not even true racing engines. Part of the art of motocross is handling a 2 stroke. We want to hear them rip.

[@apkbullies7322]

I’d disagree I like 2 strokes but 450 4 strokes has the down low power that the 2 strokes lack I just love the feeling of the torque and I love the sound of a 4 stroke

[@zackk695]

@ Yeh, the problem is it’s a lawnmower engine. I like the sound and blast of power from 2 strokes and also harder to ride which means the riders had to have more skill and muscle to master the bike. A 2 stroke engine was made for racing

[@benmartin6476]

Just wait until the beta and the Ducati are in the lineup

[@vincentepallin6657]

Love ducats just no one to work on them. One breakdown and the season is gone

[@mikeparker3662]

They wanted to get this video done before the new Chinese Kove 450mx & 250mx got released it looks like a game changer its lighter, more HP, if u ask me it looks bad ass! Oh yeah & to top it off only costing around $3,800 I can't wait

[@Levi-nn8si]

Where's the Beta???

[@cschilli68]

Where is the Stark???

[@Hadencmiller]

The stark is not a 450mx bike. This shootout is for 450mx bikes.

[@crowe9385]

I wish these bike shootouts were done on a national prep track with ruts and loam. Glen Helen with some water looks like it could be ideal, but with how dry and hard it looks, it reminds me of redbud from the 90’s. Swap moto’s shootout is the worst this year. Those dudes are at cahulia (spelling?) and it’s as flat and dry as a highway.

[@someoneyouknow96]

I’m so sick of seeing glen helen. Every damn video glen Helen.

[@poojabber277]

Flattrack/Aus dirttrack racer. Yamaha is the one.

[@baykkarl9541]

6th and 7th place took the champion in 2023 😂

[@excuter90]

Why TM is not included in the shootout? Come on guys

[@aydenrich262]

They’re not available to everyone

[@chopperz127]

No Beta? Seems like an incomplete test.

[@briantruxtonjr.6108]

Yes rub that sc1 right on the seat 😂

[@redball4093]

Shrouds, Seat, Brakes…. Fog it up. 😮

[@neilbradley6571]

I love suzuki man but when you look at the bolts frames motor the build quality is just not on par to the other manufacturers

[@DEVFORCE151]

I always loved Suzuki too back in 2016 I got a new rmz450 and man that bike was the best bike in the corners, but I really hope For 2025 we get a fully updated bike with electric start! Thats would be sweet 💪

[@CodySimoncelli-of7xx]

Suzuki build quality has come a long way. I know plenty of people who still ride yellow, and they swear by them

[@aydenrich262]

Their build quality is one of the best

[@rasmuswellejus]

I love Honda but i bought a husqvarna 450 from 2020 and i dont think that a 450 is all that fun you can literally use third gear all around the track it’s kinda boring at least in my humble opinion

[@stevenpatriquin3188]

you should have a GROWN UP version of the shootout that dont have all that AWFUL music,,great review !!!

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

Sorry you are upset and don't like music. We will try to make one just for you in the future.

[@stevenpatriquin3188]

awesome i cant wait lol@@DirtBikeMagazine

[@LifeWideOpen780]

Honda for life.

[@guzman2218]

i have the 2 bikes kaw and yamaha im I prefer 190% yamaha yes kx have good upgrade but does not surpass yamaha

[@janandersson7963]

So stupid... the only thing that "happens" with the new models is new apps/software.... new stickers... THEY are just behind suzuki or?

[@erinderind259]

suzuki still the best,, 😀😀👍👍👍

[@mirko.petitti]

why?

[@davidgledhilljr71]

WHERE ARE THE 250 TWO STROKE SHOOTOUTS? WHY AREN'T YOU DOING THEM? ASKED SEVERAL TIMES.

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

We might have something for you soon :)

[@chestercalloway3812]

You asked several times?? Oh maybe they better jump right in your demand before you complain to mommy.

[@zepcertoxic]

3 KTMs but no TM sadly

[@NigelNaughton]

I knew Suzuki would win!!!

[@myyamaharips6360]

Wonder who likes Kawi

[@caseydennison2022]

This isnt the top bike shot out on price lol its what is the best bike this year , and suzuki need to step up, its been years ,come on boys were ready for a new bike otherwise your going full behind ,we have new manufacturers coming, its time for everyone one to step up not just Yamaha and kawy

[@Cam___]

Such a bad review lol. I’ll just wait for a real channel to tell us how the bikes are

[@MatthewC137]

And... YZ for the win

[@aydenrich262]

@@MatthewC137your autocorrect is acting up, it’s KX

[@MatthewC137]

@@aydenrich262 Nah, I prefer power and reliability.

[@mxr248]

lol he said the yz450 pops and backfires.. that’s been a Kawasaki trait for quite a few years. Not one of my friends yz450’s pop or backfires.. apparently someone did some shitty tune in there. lol.

[@stevesmith756]

My KX has never popped

[@mxr248]

@@stevesmith756 well mine did and several of my friends did. When they were carbureted they all did it! I fixed a lot of them for ppl at the track. But not once have I heard Honda or Yamaha do it.

[@stevesmith756]

@@mxr248 mines EFI 2019. Runs like a timex watch. No issues

[@adamrochester1]

Never happen to me

[@jesusfreak3587]

My 15 yz 450 purrs !!!!!

[@racebiketuner]

Height is not pronounced hyth.

[@stevesmith756]

Glen Helen sucks for a test. No jumps and just high speed

[@jurdegraaf6660]

get the tm in there

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

TM importer isn't in US anymore

[@mattrad01]

Psh non of these things have Bluetooth… junk. My washing machine even has BT 😂😂😂😂

[@crawlz6226]

What 24 is the ugliest?

[@lennartdiedrich2734]

gasgas

[@aydenrich262]

Yamaha

[@lost_marblesadv]

kawasaki

[@coppertom1967]

Freakin Suzuki. Pushing a deuce and a half and still gotta kick the damn thing.

[@defconsupply3990]

Beta?

[@longsleevethong1457]

Whoever wrote this voiceover sounds milquetoast and like they don’t actually ride

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

Ron Lawson has ridden/tested almost every bike since the 70s . Sorry you are upset

[@longsleevethong1457]

@@DirtBikeMagazine lol….im not uPsEt. I’ve been riding for 45 years and I’ve never heard anyone say they don’t like the brrrrrrrap noises coming from a thumper bike and that having a light fast powerful bike was a pejorative. The dude is a clown. Sorry you’re so myopic and that you worship a clown. I’m also sorry you and him don’t like the problems associated with having to keep the front wheel down on a bike that’s too light and powerful. Y’all are lucky you never had to ride a 105cc 2stroke. You’re milquetoast af too. This reminds me of the nirds in the car magazine world…..they’re always soft beta males like this too.

[@64maxpower]

Imagine being a manufacturer and 6 millions producing a bike, when your entire line of bikes depends on the opinions of a bunch of never was some old cal surf dudes B Vet class opinions

[@JG7Racer]

⚡️No.on the Yami. It's a porker to ride..🙄

[@jordanfincher5272]

Thanks kawi for making a green ktm/Honda. I really hope they come up with a new look soon that's doesn't resemble other existing bikes...🥱

[@CodySimoncelli-of7xx]

Should it not look like a dirt bike?

[@AN4MER]

kxf is far from the best bike especially the 2024.. power feels more brutal on a 65

[@JetSkiSuper7]

I'll take the green one.

[@Hadencmiller]

Me too.

[@davidhird1116]

Where's the Varg ???

[@kurtheidelbach]

Think they have had a hard time with Varg giving them a bike like the other OEM’s to do a detailed review unfortunately.

[@DEVFORCE151]

Charging the battery probably

[@kurtheidelbach]

@@DEVFORCE151 Yeah, real productive comment🤦🏻‍♂️

[@DEVFORCE151]

@@kurtheidelbach it’s a joke bro relax 😂

[@chestercalloway3812]

Rewelding the broken frame

[@chuckbrierejr7911]

Beta?