2024 Belgian Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast

[@jameslucas3161]

13:34 Tommy: You can't take anything away from George Russell F1 Stewards: Hold my beer

[@Gaelic-Rex]

@@jameslucas3161 😂😂

[@DirkSchlemmer-tw8kp]

Still cant.

[@bogaczew]

they didn't take anything from him. they just stated the fact, his car was too light.

[@angibiesti1200]

@@bogaczew well they did take the trophy🥲🫠

[@Quiron1985]

@@bogaczew if taking away a victory in F1 isn't taking away anything according to you, then no... they didn't takle away anything from Russel.

[@jordantangco9187]

Norris absolutely shit the bed. His starts have been horrendous. Piastri absolutely trounced him today

[@KeepoKreepo]

By bottling the win?

[@soundscape26]

Yes, Lando's race starts are abysmal.

[@dnvyl]

@@KeepoKreepo Bro, it's his second season

[@KeepoKreepo]

@@dnvyl Bro, if he's that good he's that good. So he bottled it end of.

[@AdamantJHS]

@@KeepoKreepo How many wins has Lando bottled this year? At least six?

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

49:50 Matt your dad wasn't trolling you he was saving your podcast 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gegery09]

"Oh my God, Charles Leclerc is in the podium!" hahahahahahaha I died

[@alexandruistrate2]

The speed with which he got that out :)) so funny. true Leclerc fan

[@Reaper-lr8pq]

​@@alexandruistrate2not a fanboy, just passionate 😊

[@rushilshah8930]

The last 10 minutes of this video were incredible 😂 I realized at the beginning that this video was before the Russell DQ so I was wondering when they would find out. Did not realize that it would happen live.

[@shu6037]

their disappointment tho

[@kevinroper300]

“My Dad is messaging me…” has got to be the greatest breaking news alert.

[@NickNitros21]

At about 50:00 is where the lads find out about the DQ

[@theinfamousgoth]

Thanks for posting this 🔥

[@nevs22]

thx

[@nayvv]

W dad

[@TdotGooner.]

Thanks, I was finding the drivel they were spewing hard to listen too.

[@iwanevans607]

@@TdotGooner.Why are you even here 😂

[@nathanb286]

We have been getting so many bangers that the race podcasts are now always ahead of the Funniest Tweets

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

Exactly; Formula 1 is not just overtaking! That dumb obsession gets you a Michael Massi !! Akhkh twahff I feel people who understand F 1 can watch while paying attention to different aspects of the race like speed differential between straights, fast and slow corners, anticipate battles based on strategy calls, watch out for undercuts and overcuts, appreciate pit stop excellence and rage at cock ups, enjoy KMaging, listen to Verstappen and Alonso radios for hot goss and fresh tea, and enjoy the beauty of AMG Crowd strike safety car. In Spa, watching F1 cars fully sending it up that fast right hand sweeper up the hill is like magic ❤ ! People should stop whining about overtakes and go watch Netherlands GP 2023 with over 80 overtakes! 😂😂😂😂

[@Real28]

​@@MMAli-rq8kd I've been watching for about 30 years. All of that stuff you mentioned is well and good but it is still motor racing at its core. Motor racing fans like drivers battling each other. Driving around in a possession isn't battling. Yes, sometimes strategy produces an odd banger - we like those too. But to say "just look at the other stuff" that's mostly superfluous, that's disingenuous to motor sport.

[@awesomefacematt]

It’s not about that anymore, they’ve said they like doing the podcast first that that’s how they’ll do it from now on

[@GreenGretel]

@@awesomefacematt Yeah, it just makes sense to do the podcast first - get their immediate reactions off, then do the more time-intensive Funniest Tweets vid afterwards.

[@Apis4]

Red Bull struggling to replace Daniel Ricciardo for what, 6 years, only to finally manage to find a suitable replacement in... Daniel Ricciardo.... is the MOST Red Bull (and Marko) move ever... so it is probably going to happen.

[@shu6037]

😂

[@dnvyl]

From where are my tyres in Monaco to where is my second driver

[@Meeko2689]

Daniel Ricciardo is trash perilla seem to forget that he got fired for not being able to keep up with Lando and people are expecting he’s gonna keep up with Max… GTFO

[@sarabeth7415]

As they said, the only person that can replace Daniel is.....Daniel. Also, even as a DR fan, I still find this hilarious 🤣

[@thecompanioncube4211]

Didn't Danny leave on his own volition?

[@audreybeneytou]

I love Matt priority - George Russell is about to disqualified and then Charles Leclerc is on the podium 🤣😂

[@MeRacko]

The problem was they waited at least 2 or 3 laps to tell Lewis that George was on one stop you could see Lewis wasn't catching him up and than 3 lap latter he suddenly started to catch him up for 0.6-0.9s3c a lap

[@lisalopia8293]

Exactly they were giving him no info on GR

[@Zack_F1]

They said either way they thought he was finishing 5th

[@kityhawk2000]

I've also heard he was interested in doing the one stop but the team told him it wouldn't work. So it's easy to see why he'd be unhappy the team told him a one stop would not work then did it for George then did not tell him he'd have to pass George to win

[@AnonymousMC17]

Exactly. It’s a huge oversight from Matt and Tommy not to mention this.

[@lonzellowe9101]

@@AnonymousMC17purposefully honestly. I’ve disagreed how they viewed the Norris situation last week and the Russel situation this week

[@DaHitch]

14:45 They did the usual strategy with Norris: Lose positions in the first corner, extend 2nd stint, chase down on the 3rd stint but end up falling just short.

[@funkeeee]

Russell just got disqualified 😮

[@woodduck2178]

Well it's been a few hours so not "just" disqualified.

[@aryanlokesh2874]

they need to react to this s

[@Hechaldo]

Watch the video. They get the news while filming (around 50th min).

[@a030055]

@@Hechaldo Thank you mate

[@thesunnynationg]

ooof... that's harsh.

[@savant_spoon_bender]

Oscar put in a purple in P1 with clear air and much fresher tyres than Russel, I was genuinely surprised when they opted out of the 1 stop.

[@waverod9275]

This episode aged like fine milk.... I love how you're reacting to the news as you record.

[@selder_7]

Poor Russell, between this and the Silverstone issue he’s losing so many points

[@ChacheKurte]

It’s not about the points in this season, he will be stronger and stronger over the next years. Trust me

[@ferraried16]

He had to be born with luck, like his teammate, It's over now for him to finish ahead of Lewis, in 3 races he had too many problems

[@peeturpain9379]

good

[@415s30]

That's what he gets for hitting Bottas and then screaming at him and hitting his helmet like a bitch. I lost all respect for him. He's like a spoiled frat boy.

[@gameofender4463]

Honestly, I’m not surprised that George got disqualified. That guy has some of the worst luck on the grid.

[@nasirkazi2901]

Compared to Charles, he is the world’s luckiest man.

[@Megumi44-vm6fn]

Charles wants to know your location .

[@MrWarhead16]

Twice already. And add that dnf at australia twice.

[@addictionz4585]

Some of the worst luck on the grid? He got a win in Austria when he was nowhere? He got his first podium in a race that wasn’t a race? he won in Brazil because max drove into Lewis at the restart, like I’m not being funny Russell is far from the unluckiest driver on the grid lol fernando, hulk, Lewis and Charles have all had far worse look then him

[@Piscezz]

wdym, the last time he won was literally because of Max and Lando contact

[@Hodor3746]

There are but 3 certainties in life. Death, taxes, and Lando butchering his Lap 1

[@mehdi3871]

Matt's dad coming in clutch 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BwInNewJersey]

Someone on the 63 team keeps forgetting to carry the 1.

[@nickmildon6348]

Lando needs a lot of self reflection. His starts are bad and kinda gets bullied at turn 1. How he can then spend the entire last 15 laps or so less than a second behind Max and didn't even try to make a move. That sealed the championship imo, if Norris cant finish above Max in this race, he has no chance over the rest of the season

[@maxvandoorn3799]

Yeah, it was exactly what I said to mz farther. The only thing Max wanted to do was one thing which was finishing ahead of Lando. This literally was like a race win for him.

[@wexalian]

As for the pole position thing, the FIA needs to define pole position either as "the driver who exits quali in p1" or "the driver who starts the race in p1". Right now, they're mixing stuff up making things confusing.

[@sspacegghost]

the pole is an award for the fastest on the day. the engine allocation points are about the season and gets applied after... they're separate. pole is pole. the dude is being penalised once, you don't penalise them a second time and take away their days achievement.

[@SchweinerSchinkler]

@@sspacegghost as far as i know the guy that starts the race p1 gets the pole added to their stats but don’t quote me on that

[@peeturpain9379]

pole is whoever starts the race p1.

[@CrazyDriver666]

If FIA can mix and confuse things, so can we. Tommy should get a point for his prediction, because it was solid

[@aidanbonny7926]

It is clear, Lando will not be a true contender for the championship due to his race starts... He has lost positions on basically every race start while Piastri gains. Clearly a Lando issue, not a Mclaren issue... Lets not even start on Mclarens strategists they clearly stole from Ferrari...

[@Singular_Opinion]

He knows Oscar is the better driver right now. You can tell how much pressure he’s putting on himself and it shows.

[@11bornrich]

Forget race starts, his lockups are even worse, any time he's desperately trying to make a big move happen he locks up. He was ready to pass Max and does what? Lockup to the point I called it lol It's very predictable. Poor starts, constantly locking up. PIA is closing in if he doesn't get it together.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Norris has had many great starts, just a few with losing places in a row - and some of them were losing places but doing everything right! Better to preserve the car than commit to the 3:1 doesn't go and hope its your car that comes out least mangled... Edit: So I guess my point is don't write him off, though the strategists clearly need to spend the break at remedial school...

[@vercingetorix5708]

Lando is just not at the Max/Lewis level. He is at the Sainz/ George Russel level.

[@chooweey]

I find it kind of amusing that since Lando referred to himself as one of the best starters on the grid a couple of races ago, all of his starts have been terrible

[@PhilippIndlekofer]

Oscar is on another level, he is getting better every race, while Lando is stagnant in improving himself. It could well be, that next year Oscar is ahead of Lando.

[@jakl10]

pls tell me yall recorded this after the russell dq 😭

[@judywaleed_]

nah that was before the news

[@poojan-shah]

😥

[@L-Main]

They recorded it during. They talk about at 50:00

[@ohnous4570]

​​@@L-MainMatt's reaction was impressive. "Charles Leclerc is on the podium" Now I truly believe he's a Leclerc fan and his funny reactions aren't just for the views. Respect 😂

[@xtheamazingax]

@@ohnous4570 you only believe he’s a Leclerc fan NOW? He’s loved him for years!

[@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens]

For people wondering about George's disqualification, I think it's more likely that a ballast was incorrectly measured than his tyres losing too much rubber. He wasn't the only one to do a one stop, yet he was the only one with this issue.

[@TheTororist]

2nd time it's happened to merc in the past year. They're a shambles

[@Dxniell89722]

That was running the car too low but still​@@TheTororist

[@paulgilbert9346]

I rather suspect that George didn’t fuel save enough towards the end of the race.

[@rosgoncharuk2403]

​@@paulgilbert9346The weight is without fuel.

[@BRD0211]

@@paulgilbert9346 You do know that they take fuel into account right?

[@Steve46567]

Oscar's move on Charles was absolutely beautiful. Doin very well to prove why he should be the no 1 driver in McLaren.

[@gusryan]

He's still almost a whole win behind Lando in the standings lol

[@Gaelic-Rex]

Oscar is mega impressive. The lad is so close to being the full package. Cool, calm, able to perform under pressure. Lads the future. Lando is great but the boy holds himself back.

[@durodesduvo8424]

Oscar is way behind in the championship but man did Norris drive like a #2 driver today

[@TheYorkshireGeordie]

Oscar only seems to do well when there's a 2 stop

[@Gaelic-Rex]

@@durodesduvo8424 he was off all weekend wasn’t he. I want Lando to do well but he lets his mental state get in his way, doesn’t have that killer edge the likes of max, Lewis, alonso have.

[@gazwalsh7466]

You need to redo the scores now lads, Russell got dsq’d

[@man_imbored171]

Nah cant be russells fault, surely he was not aware he was under weight. Now it may have been the difference in him winning though

[@RockSolitude]

Doesn’t mean crap

[@RockSolitude]

@@man_imbored171obviously he wouldn’t be aware kinda silly to insinuate that’s a possibility. Also even if he was what is he supposed to do?

[@CrackerBarrelKid551]

​@man_imbored171 sure, he didn't know, but the gamble strategy that looked like a masterclass turned out to be not-so-good. Can't give the 1-stop decision praise when it works, and then say "but he didn't know" when it doesn't. It was a gamble that didn't work

[@gazwalsh7466]

@@RockSolitude Matt and Tommy’s points for the predictions need to be redone

[@selder_7]

This has to be it for Perez. He should’ve won or got a podium, instead he’s worst of the best. Drop Ricciardo in and tell him to be the Ricciardo of old or he’s getting dropped entirely. That solves the issue of what to do with him and Lawson. Tsunoda does deserve it more but they clearly just won’t give it to him

[@louneissen1603]

Tsunoda might move to AM when Honda moves over perhaps ?

[@daarom3472]

he also actually cost Max by driving in front of Russell, stalling Max giving Russell DRS and then delaying Max on his final lap which meant Max lost touch with George.

[@soundscape26]

As seen by Max the Red Bull wasn't that fast around Spa, so asking Perez to win would not be very realistic. That said yes, his race went backwards more than it should.

[@shu6037]

he didnt drive well. also redbull butchered his race with bad pitstops. first he got undercut, then his 2nd stop was just to remove him from maxs way.

[@11bornrich]

Let's not act like RB didn't help screw him over too by pitting him to basically get out of Max way, it seemed very early and impulsive but they used the pit as an excuse. They've given up on Perez.

[@joshn1678]

Wow, Mercedes tried to cover up the weight difference by not draining all the fuel, and the FIA caught them. This is a big deal. Plus Mercedes didn't tell Lewis that George wasn't going to pit, so Lewis could have pushed earlier to catch George, but he was saving his tyres for the guys behind him. Karma.

[@shu6037]

they tried to trick fia and thought they would get away with it. embarrassing for them

[@aharish4134]

And because of that, they lost 25 points instead of only 18

[@drewmagnet]

​​@@aharish4134they did only lose 18 points, because Hamilton still got 25 points.

[@ViggoMor10sen]

FIA do the fuel draining for weighing, not the team.

[@RockSolitude]

@@shu6037 the FIA is the one who drains the fuel and does the checks. You Hamilton stans are the only embarrassing ones here.

[@gokinka]

Would it be possible to get bookmarks/chapters added to the podcasts? E.g. when the next topic or question starts. Thanks!

[@xtheamazingax]

Man, George can’t catch a break right now. Leclerc’s luck just transferred to him apparently… I feel so bad because he pulled a blinder in that race.

[@j.s3300]

In an illegal car

[@xtheamazingax]

@@j.s3300 yeah but did HE know that? I don’t think so. I dunno how Mercedes made that error but they need to make sure it never happens again. They’re trying to beat Ferrari and they should be doing that easily.

[@leonie364.]

​@@xtheamazingax three races in a row that went awful for george, its really sad. the dnf in silverstone, the underfueling in hungary and now this.

[@Wolfywolf7]

​@@j.s3300 No speed advantage None greater than a couple thousandths

[@MyShanghaiShuffle]

@@Wolfywolf7that’s not true at all, don’t make up rubbish. The F1 site itself says a kg is on average 10th of a second a lap (that was start 2023), even if it’s less bear in mind this is a long lap so it has a bigger than average effect.

[@F1Replays]

I find it so difficult to see Perez perform the way he has been this season and for the middle part of last season. I remember him from the BWT days putting that car in places it shouldn't be. Then being the Mexican minister of defence and helping Max secure his first World Championship a couple of years ago. He's a world class driver struggling to find form and it's heartbreaking

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

I'd never have called him world class, good enough at his peak to deserve a #2 seat at a good team, certainly good enough to get into F1 on merit. But he has never been the sort of world class driver that you feel will win the Drivers championship... He used to be nothing more than reliably good enough and with the right temprement to play second fiddle. I do agree it is a bit sad to see him in this state though.

[@Spike-sk7ql]

Some guys are just great mid field drivers. Get them at the sharp end of the grid, and they seem to lose it a bit. Idk if it's the pressure of a front running team, or what. He won't be the first, or last to be less than great in a great car, but really great in a mid car.

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Helping Max win his first title oh sure for one race and it was GOATifi and SC helped Max and also Perez cost Red bull WCC in 2021 and possible this year and also if he race in the front in 2021 majority of that season and take way points from Lewis Max would won the title before last race lol

[@zacharysun01]

Why are there salty max fans under these comments crying about perez being a good driver before these 2 seasons

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​@@zacharysun01lol

[@Dennis_Rodman_GOAT_1091]

When should we start eyeing the possibility that Oscar Piastri is going to do what Leclerc did in 2019 with Vettel and overtake Lando Norris in points

[@tanyaghosh2277]

If anybody has been paying attention to the way Mclaren has been screwing Oscar nearly every race this year, you would know how much closer to Lando, Oscar really truly is (way more close than the stats and/or points show). I was disgusted by how much nonsense a lot of casual f1 fans and Lando Stans were waffling in Hungary, saying Mclaren should have let Lando keep P1. Lando is not in a championship battle no matter how much everybody wants him to be... I think Oscar could very well finish ahead of Lando at the end of this year's standings. It's absolutely not out of the question.

[@Gaelic-Rex]

@@Dennis_Rodman_GOAT_1091 👀… that is a very good point.

[@kimi88cz]

Charles wiped the floor with Vettel from race one, Oscar and Lando are much closer. But I guess Oscar is the bigger talent here and he will soon be better than Lando

[@victorvale1015]

If not this season it’s coming at some point

[@wise4833]

​@@kimi88czjust stop lying,in 2019.. Bahrain was the only race Leclerc started or finished ahead in the first 7.And although leclerc got more points ..in races which both finished,Vettel had a better marginal finishing position while leclerc won the qualifying battles in the same margin

[@ole6945]

I was waiting for minute 50 and the reaction to George dsq didn’t expect Matt to pick up the Le Clerc podium that quickly 😂😂😂

[@Thorxish]

This was the first Grand Prix I attended live and it was such a cool experience

[@SixJayy]

Cool, where along the track were you?

[@titanx04]

From the meeting and smile on DR face , looked promising though he’s always smiling

[@LetathousandFl0wersBloom]

Congrats to leclerc for an amazing drive and podium finish

[@m12x12]

37:32 "Two year contract" was the carrot; "performance clauses," the stick. Great contract strategy by RBR to give themselves flexibility and give the appearance of offering Perez a big gesture of support.

[@MeRacko]

That is not true Hamilton suggested one stop pre race but they told him no as they did Russell but than they changed it for Russell and didn't tell Lewis straight away

[@brownbabyuk10]

Lewis said it was discussed in the Canal interview, and it was his preferred strategy and that is why he was upset that they used the strategy with George.

[@brownbabyuk10]

Esp since he said his tyres were fine on both stint

[@garronah]

When Mercedes have a fast car, they win. When Verstappen has a fast car, he wins. Damn near every time. McLaren has had the fastest car for most of the season now, and....

[@janvisser4132]

Well, even as a Verstappen fan I have to admit that Hamilton is a legendary driver. So if you give him the fastest or almost fastest car he will win with it. So it is quite logical. Oscar is still learning, and Norris is just not that legendary type driver. So they cannot capitalize on that best car yet, or overcome the strategic handicap that McLaren has.

[@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044]

Be honest...if Hamilton or Verstappen had that McLaren they would be on a 5-6 race winning streak.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 Only if the team get the tactics right - even the best drivers can't know every detail and run the best tactics from the cockpit, there are times they will have great insights, but they are always reliant on the team to give them the information. Norris trusted the team and got shafted by it again...

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Lol

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​@@foldionepapyrus3441lol

[@Isabelw15]

Amazing podcast! Loved the live reaction to Russel’s DSQ (thanks Matt’s dad), Graces shoutout, and how Chrystel Horners Tweets always deliver. Can’t wait to see you both in Austin!

[@HzYDuB]

Feel like Russell's amazing strategy has overshadowed the fact that hamilton also drove a perfect race.

[@ogTryhard21]

To be fair, it was an absolute blinder that nobody saw coming

[@mouseinthehouse_]

Amazing strategy that only worked because the car was underweight compared to everyone else

[@D4C_LoveTrain1]

​@@mouseinthehouse_yh, Russell drove flawlessly but most likely only got to where he was due to an illegal car.

[@jusbus777]

Don't tell Matt and Tommy that. Lewis can do no good in their eyes. What George did was synonyms to scoring an offside goal. I am glad he paid the penalty for it.

[@ogTryhard21]

@@jusbus777 its not that Lewis can do no good, they're just giving credit where it's deserved. Plus everyone knows how good Lewis is, so not really much to say that hasn't been said 105 times now 😂

[@TwilightIlove4eva]

Okay, I did wonder if this had been recorded post the announcement about George, but to find out, while listening that they found out, mid-recording, so we got a live reaction to the news, was golden!

[@camra554]

Sucks that not only will George not get the win and the points but this has sparked more discourse about George not being able to win on his own merit. It was so nice to see people finally appreciating him :(

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

He did though, he crossed the line first. His car was just a little underweight. Which can be anything between a hundredths to a few tenths per lap but he still crossed the line first under his own steam.

[@tanyaghosh2277]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Yes but his strategy gamble only ended up looking ingenius because his car was illegally much faster than everyone else on track. If the weight was legal, he wouldn't have been lapping the times he was, and therefore, his strategy gamble probably would not have worked to jump him up 3 positions. He would have made the podium at most....

[@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 1kg is about 2 seconds over a race distance. Stands to reason 1.5 kg is somewhere between 2 seconds and 3. Probably around 2.5

[@georgeking1581]

​@@F1ll1nTh3Blankshis drive was amazing but it wasn't a little bit under weight. It was 1.5kg which is potentially as much as a 6th of a second per lap. Not to mention the reduced tyre deg. Really really unfortunate and I do feel for him but it's not tiny weight

[@shlokgaur4030]

So glad the deserving winner won. No offense to george but 1.5kg deficit along with everybody saying overtaking was almost impossible and for Lewis to overtake top 2 instantly shows the better guy who beat everybody fairly and with same Strategy of 2 stops was deserved winner and that is Sir Lewis....

[@sherlock2940]

I remember how we used to have overtakes going into eau rouge and radillion. Even as recent as the mid 2010s. As well as the insane overtakes in the early 2000s. It’s a car issue not a track issue

[@Nentraa]

Lando = Money + hard work Piastri = raw talent money can’t buy - facts.

[@irinagal6789]

Also , totally watched whole podcast to see at which point you lads would find out about George ! Loved it. What an epic season !

[@williamwade7059]

The fact that Matt laughs at Tommy because he believes that Perez will remain in his seat based on VIBES is hilarious. MR. FERRARI HYPE TRAIN lives on Ferrari vibes.😂😂😂😂

[@TheJubess]

He does it for the memes

[@henkow07]

And perez stays for this year at least lol

[@klic4194]

Merc absolutely shafted Lewis by not telling him he needed to push up to pass George. Telling him to manage behind him was either nefarious or an absolute blunder thinking it couldn't happen from the garage. People dunked all over McLaren for messing up a 1-2, but not talking about Merc hosing Lewis with total lack of communication

[@joshn1678]

Yeah what's going on? Mercedes absolutely stole that win from Lewis and they knew George was staying out on lap 30, so 14 laps to tell Lewis to push and Bono tells him to conserve his tyres, the same tyres George did fking 34 laps on. Unbelievable

[@diegolarrache]

im not merc fan or RUS fan but the face of toto at the end... he was not happy

[@1972dsrai]

It was clever thinking from Russell, but think only stopping once is the reason why he was disqualified as I think the weight issue is due to the tyres. There was nothing during the race that could have caused something to fall off.

[@ILiquidGasI]

Danni Ric was in a chopper with Max after the race, Checo not in sight. I think that tells us all what is going to happen after the summer break

[@Azmania3000]

I bet Danny even said "get in da choppa. Come with me if you want to live" and then tweaked Max's nipples

[@drummerboy2834]

@@Azmania3000😂

[@TommyLeeRoyce]

@@Azmania3000😂

[@henkow07]

Yeah perez stays for this year lol

[@smokypuppy3342]

tommy spitting about the problems with f1 overtaking and the direction its gone is so flames

[@czr1006]

He pays for Max’s salary 65% of Red Bull merchandise is sold to Mexico... thats not including all the Mexican Checo fans in the US. Checo marketing value is underestimated.

[@benfroughi]

This is much more like it. Full length and released on the day of the race. Perfect. Well done chaps. This is perfect.

[@karldini-ih1qe]

waiting for the George Russell disqualification video....

[@IamHailey8]

Keep watching this one, it will come😂😂

[@craigmentiplay6809]

Reb Bull, I think you put Danny Riccardo in the Ref Bull car, then you put Lawson in the Visa car. Both Christian and Helmut get what they want. 1/2 a year for Daniel to prove himself, and he gets along with Max. Lawson gets 6th months experience in the Visa car without the pressure of being in the Red Bull trying to win a constructors championship.

[@iplayeddsharpminor]

If Piastri’s pit stop hadn’t been 4.4 seconds I reckon it would reflect better on McLaren but it is clear they are a team of people not familiar with being at the front of the grid which is to be expected

[@shu6037]

he could have won without that slow stop imo

[@iplayeddsharpminor]

Agreed

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Well that stop time was rather on the driver not the team, but the team tactics department have been awful again which doesn't help.

[@iplayeddsharpminor]

True - I realised that as I typed it but I mean McLaren would be a bit less to blame. Small issues aside I am convinced Piastri will finish ahead of Norris in 2025, if not 2024

[@Issam-od4pg]

Probably not mclaren's fault, i mean jack guy almost got obliterated by piastri

[@andrewcross5918]

The issue with the gamble was not that GR tried it or that Merc allowed it but they should have let Lewis know Russell was trying it early on so Lewis could decide how fast to close the gap. It was the lack of clear comms that bothered me, not that George tried a hail mary and it worked (DSQ aside).

[@marcusmccall8896]

Most memorable is the George Russell DQ. However Merc's strategy on Lewis does raise some eyebrows. Can't wait to hear what they say.

[@Model_Student]

How can you say that the strategy raises some eyebrows, when Tommy and Matt very reasonably described how it was NOT setting up George to beat Lewis.

[@marcusmccall8896]

@@Model_Student I said that because it was reported that Lewis mentioned that he wanted to do a one stop prior to the race and the team vetoed.

[@liamf94]

For the overtaking issues in Spa/Monza and other low downforce tracks they could put rules in place for a minimum rear wing angle, it’ll help create more drag which would slow down the cars in the straights and bring DRS back into contention for help with over takes, but also at Spa it could help for more dive bombs pulling out the slipstream into the bus stop

[@mastak696]

50:30 you can sense that Tom Bellingham is annoyed to see Lewis Hamilton win. I mean there is barely any credit given to Lewis in this podcast. He aced the start. Got Perez and then got Charles. Kept the tyres very well. Perfectly followed the team strategy and deserved the win.

[@joshn1678]

Lewis drove a perfect race, gets shafted by his own team and everyone is sad for George? Screw George, Mercedes doesn't deserve Lewis.

[@Alex-md6bu]

If you look at the strategies of Lewis vs George, George has been given the better strategy of the two more often than not, during 21 most of the time when Lewis was behind George while having the better strategy/ tyres he was told not to overtake/ George won’t let him go even though strategy difference…. Do I believe they have different cars no but that is undeniably true….

[@joshn1678]

Remember, when Mercedes had to say they weren't sabotaging Lewis? Yeah he's won 2 races since then and 4 podiums lol.

[@Miamiburaz]

Told you Matt, no way can Lando catch Max now!

[@pascalplastina9596]

Hi Matt and Tommy. I like your podcasts. Summer break now. But it has been an interesting season so far. As a Sauber fan it has been though this year so far however as a real fan you support your team trough thick and thin.

[@alicewilson1913]

I liked this race, there were lots of different strategies, lots of interesting battles and overtakes, lots of tension and suspense. At no point was this race a snoozefest just cause there were fewer overtakes overall than at some other tracks. I'd rather see fewer overtakes where the overtakes are really earned, and lots of close racing, than see dozens of meaningless DRS overtakes on the straights and endless rules lawyering every time someone actually tries to defend

[@freemanpt]

Regarding pole position, that is the outcome of qualifying… so it should be Max. Then, and only then, the grid penalty is applied and the starting position is updated. It should be simple. So, starting on pole is not equal to winning pole position on quali. :)

[@iplayeddsharpminor]

“Make them slower but exactly the same” - never thought I would say this but bring back grooved tyres? No way it could happen with the weight of the current blunderbusses but food for thought!

[@MatthewKennedy-b4v]

Good point about a more worn tire weighing less. Since the tires are one of the few things that teams have little to no control over (including variations occuring during the creation process), maybe the cars should be weighed without them? This would also eliminate the grey area of picking up rubber on an in lap.

[@ocryos]

Kimi is not comparable to Bearman, he's wiping the floor with Bearman.

[@Matt04108]

They are both getting thrashed in F2. Neither deserve F1 at this point in their careers.

[@tonygray8909]

Not comparable. Mimi has the faster car 😏

[@BigFatCock0]

​@@Matt04108F2 cars aren't as equal as people believe.

[@nymphithys1558]

Bwoah.

[@FerryvanDorp]

Penalties are only giben on raceday. So pole on saterday is pole in the books. Sunday they rectify the starting positions by applaying the penalties.

[@unnamedunbekannt1691]

This is my current opinion on pecking order. I based this of the last few races. Race pace: Red Bull = McLaren > Mercedes > Ferrari Tire deg: Mercedes > McLaren > Red Bull = Ferrari Quali pace (depends on conditions): Red Bull = McLaren > Mercedes = Ferrari It is insane how close it is.

[@afande101]

Very underrated comment

[@CharlieVane21]

On Hamilton, the team was telling him to save fuel. Obviously, they did the calculations on weight. They also put on new tyres. Both of these reasons are why George was underweight - fuel and tyres.

[@Samael78]

I saw Grosjean's car last year in Madrid. Its so sobering to look at and a marvel that he escaped. You shoukd go see it if you have chance, its mind blowing.

[@Bryan-v6s]

is it in a museum?

[@Samael78]

​@@Bryan-v6s no, it was an F1 exhibition, but you can go see it in London now according to these guys.

[@billyo5532]

1:24 I’ll be in the us tour at Chicago see you there Matt and Tommy

[@racieltamayo6860]

Anyone else has a young verstappen vibes off of piastri fighting the both Mercedes

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

🏎

[@makkert]

No, different driving styles. Oscar is / was struggling with tire management, which is a strong point of Verstappen already at early career. Oscar’s strong point is he is icecold in character, not showing emotion. Which is / was a weak point of Verstappen

[@racieltamayo6860]

@makkert true but I meant more of a young kid challenge 2 Mercedes regardless of the situation

[@LednacekZ]

this is fun to listen to after the DSQ

[@justinwalpole8956]

Hamilton was 10 seconds ahead of russel before he pitted. If lewis doesn't pit, he wins. George did a great drive, but Matt, as he always is, is far too harsh on hamilton.

[@joshn1678]

Yeah, it's pissing me off. Lewis drove a literal perfect race, with his team totally fking him sideways by not telling him about George when they knew with 14 laps to go that George was staying out. Bono NEVER told Lewis that he had to pass George until Lewis literally was right behind him, he said "free to race, just leave each other space." insanity.

[@roxannelyson7715]

Why is this so hard for fans at any level? The regs specifically state that the 3 top finishers will proceed to Parc ferme. The actual pole position, and all positions, are not fully determined until qualifying positions are established THEN modified based on any race penalties factored in, such as mechanical penalties or sporting penalties. Think about Austria a couple of years ago. We all thought Lewis got pole, but new evidence gave him a penalty and he lost pole. Think about Monaco where Charles initially got pole, but because of his mechanical problems, there wasn't a pole at all.

[@jaquestraw1]

You don't get rid of Spa and some of the other classic tracks, you get rid of the shit cars!

[@erin92023]

the fact is, no other car did the cooldown lap and they made weight. Also, the team tried weighing the car without properly draining the fuel per the rules, and they're not new to this process. They knew they were underweight. Even Toto's lackluster response for George winning to me shows he knew something was up.

[@Dyils]

Strange Mercedes keeps getting DSQ for illegal cars... George today, Lewis because of his plank and Lewis because of his wing... Yes, I know, the wing was illegal by so little, it's practically nothing and there's no way its intentional but it seems to me like the team that keeps getting DSQ is Mercedes. Not even Haas or Williams or someone who you might consider they lack the operational maturity... No, the same team that kept winning for 8 years straight. One of the largest in F1.

[@enjoymusic6365]

I wholeheartedly disagree that spa would have been boring without George. It was a fascinating race and I was on the edge of my seat every lap because someone in formula A was right on the back of someone else threatening a move and we could see moves were possible and it was very exciting to see. Lots of overtaking doesn’t necessarily mean exciting. I was thoroughly encapsulated by this race.

[@ryche.rising]

I disagree about the pole position prize NOT going to the guy who SCORED IT, just because we have a dumb rule that punishes the pilot for mechanical failures.

[@dannyrood1262]

Since they extended the DRS zone down Kemmel Straight (in 2017 or 18, from memory) we either had DRS trains or motorway style overtakes. It sucked. Because everyone knows the tow and DRS zone is so powerful, then everyone waits for that place to overtake. That's the problem, everyone is waiting for it and thus the benefit of looking for overtakes elsewhere diminishes. I'd bin off the Kemmel DRS all together and have three shorter DRS zones on the track: - keep the start/finish straight zone; this gets drivers a little closer for the long run to Les Combes - A new zone from No Name through to Pouhon; this gets drivers a little closer for the Fagnes/piff paff and Stavelot sections, and thus closer to the run to the Bus Stop - Stavelot 2 through to Blanchimont, or Blanchimont into the Bus Stop. This gives drivers a leg up into the last corner. This combination of changes to the DRS zones turns the one highly likely overtaking spot (in theory) into Les Combes into multiple probable spots. And a chance for drivers to use their imagination into places like Bruxelles, Piff Paff, and La Source without fear of getting mugged down Kemmel. You could always tighten the Les Combes entry as well, but that may be sacrilege

[@russellyoungson8469]

Aged like the sock under my bed

[@mikehipperson]

Aged like the crumpled tissue under mine! 😜

[@bobclarke5913]

@@mikehipperson You two need to go outside more.

[@777XGang]

@@bobclarke5913 What was wrong with the op? The other guy is the weirdo…

[@SchweinerSchinkler]

@@777XGang op said the same thing as the first reply lol. But yeah they need to go outside and get themselves some cooch

[@Kermit-The-Smaug]

Crazy race, crazier post race. Everything is heating up nicely for peak silly season.

[@bwmanarific]

People are forgetting that the FIA changed the drs zone and that change DID change the winner of this race when it was happening. Also LH couldve won today on track as well he had some tractions issues.

[@rensvanderploeg1945]

Yes and if my mother had balls...

[@Wolfywolf7]

So I guess those traction issues were him going deep into the hairpin?

[@jerrymcallister]

Watching this and laughing my ass off at you two

[@the_dented_NPC]

No one got lapped that race.. all teams are so bunched up wow

[@Xeleko]

Lack of overtaking ? or lack of diffusion ? Ocon did 5-6 overtake for direct position. We only see 2 in replay. His overtake on Bottas was amazing ! the best of the Grand prix, nobody see it !

[@coolc2452]

I remember Tommy saying max would blast past the field and be leading by lap ten, wake-up Tommy and stop dreaming

[@RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts]

Esteban Ocon made like 9 or 10 overtakes. Great drive

[@franzi2354]

So gutted for George - honestly, he drove outstandingly today and should have gotten that win. Can't believe merc have now messed up his race three times in a row..

[@astraracing1099]

I'm not going to say George didn't deserve that win, the way toto responded to Lewis and his race, I'm kinda glad George got disqualified.

[@await-rescue]

Not sure why Tommy seems to think the Red Bull is now slow when it was on pole (pre grid drop) by over half a second.

[@vincentras1991]

Because they have Max with his favourite weather conditions. He is the rain master

[@weignerleigner3037]

In wet conditions buddy, it’s very clear race pace wise they are now probably on par with Mercedes and mclaren are ahead of everyone

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

LOL

[@shu6037]

if he doesnt say car is slow, he has to say max is slow. you shouldnt expect that from a max fanboy

[@vercingetorix5708]

It’s clearly the third fastest over a lap.

[@46stuvegas]

I think it was a mistake to change the drs zone. Should have maybe been 40 metres smaller or not smaller at all to help with overtaking.

[@crazygamer56]

Nope you are wrong. Perez is not going to VCarb, he's just gone. Ricciardo to RB and Lawson to VCarb

[@henkow07]

News are that Perez stays lol

[@benhowland3114]

Tommy on absolute fire this podcast. Loved it ! Matt: "Well it's confused you mate, the GOAT, the Wiki of Formula 1" Tommy: "Well, exactly" Own those nicknames Tommy !