2024 Hyundai Elantra N vs Toyota GR Corolla Comparison / Turning the Tables!

[@RyanLeonard89]

I own a GR, but you can’t go wrong with either one. Whenever I see an Elantra N on the street I get as excited as when I see another GR or Type R. Just glad these cars exist at all.

[@Veexd13]

Same I own a EN

[@official_commanderhale965]

I have an EN and I've not seen many happy GRC owners unfortunately. Maybe they are JDM snobs or something, but oh well.

[@RyanLeonard89]

@@official_commanderhale965 I can’t speak for anyone else but I absolutely love mine! Some people bought GR’s thinking out of the box they’d be fast as hell and drag machines lol. It’s an amazing car and it’s definitely not slow, but like anything else, if you want it to be the new Evo it’s going to take money and time for the aftermarket scene to develop (which it definitely is) I also have a genwon Speed 3 that I’ve owned for 13 years that’s twice as fast as my GR so maybe I’m just more patient for the speed to come than so other owners who spent 50k and expected to to keep up with G80 M3’s out of the box lol

[@anthonyscott5484]

The only humble comment I've heard from a GR Corolla owner ..... Assuming you mean what you say but every Corolla person I've met is such a a snob

[@RyanLeonard89]

@@anthonyscott5484 I save my anger for the people buying SUV’s 🤣

[@velocityvibezzz]

Oh i love elantra n. Dont even care for competition. Like needing to beat GR or Type R or losing to them. Just standalone its a fun car that's meant to be had fun on. Same is true for type r or golf r or gr or whatever. Just get what you want. After that its yours so dont care what others say. Enjoy 🕊️

[@kuyre2239]

problem with Hyundai Elantra N is its engine.

[@youcangetsum6871]

@@kuyre2239the engine is very reliable the problems with these car is not the engine the major issue has to do with fuel hpfp and injectors are the most common thing to fail on these cars other than that they’re very reliable don’t spread misinformation.

[@SuperFitness12]

Right on!!

[@cindysue5474]

@@youcangetsum6871 Yes I had an injector replaced on my Kona N service writer said some have gone bad on some Tucsons.

[@jugo5139]

NO... same engine as veloster n. It will take abuse lol.​@@kuyre2239

[@TheGamingDead14]

I bought the 24 N a week ago and absolutely love it. The interior of the GR Corolla is embarrassing compared to the EN and even the type R.

[@coleparsons8891]

What state and what was the out the door price at the dealer?

[@viper2131]

I got into the premium trim and it’s an amazing drive but that interior is on par with a 2000s econobox. The type r feels luxurious in comparison, even a base wrx feels premium in comparison.

[@TheGamingDead14]

@@coleparsons8891 south Florida, got it OTD for 38k thankfully. I got intense blue, the cyber gray and performance blue to even white is nearly impossible to find. Not sure what Hyundai is doing but they’re mainly sending black, red and intense blue to dealers.

[@TheGamingDead14]

@@viper2131 the price tag definitely doesn’t help it either the GR definitely doesn’t look nor feel like it’s worth $40k+ especially for those who get the circuit edition for $45k+ smh, the Elantra N is an amazing value for what you get at its price point.

[@viper2131]

@@TheGamingDead14 I had a veloster n and the driving experience was like the GR it it had AWD. Getting one two years ago was frustrating since dealers treated it like a ferrari. Went with a wrx gt (wish they had the tr back then). The interior is fantastic but I wish the driving experience was more engaging.

[@jeffsavage7135]

My 22 Elantra N is the most fun car I've ever owned. I bought it new and have 50,000 km on it now. No problems at all.

[@ChristianGuy7000]

You lies?

[@jeffsavage7135]

@@ChristianGuy7000 No lies. No problems.

[@yadwinderpurewal6823]

⁠@@ChristianGuy7000 Yes Brother, It’s a good looking car with fun to drive feel and morever it is reliable too… It’s one of a nice machines that Hyundai ever created if i am not wrong… Good Going Hyundai..

[@yadwinderpurewal6823]

@@jeffsavage7135Congratulations bro for your good choice.. I know you are enjoying everytime you put your foot down.. Cheers..

[@jessicaphoenix1312]

If I was driving the car on the street only and in cold weather or where the AWD is necessary, I would choose the GR. If You plan to track the car, it is Elantra N all day. The GR overheaqts on the track and the brakes can't stand up all day. I have tracked the Elantra N without mods and with a tune making over 320 WHP and it gets heat-soaked by the end of the day, but it performs well and takes the abuse. For me, it is about knowing what you want out of a car and picking one of these good options.

[@thurules]

why does GR overheat on track?

[@jessicaphoenix1312]

@@thurules One of the problems is the small brakes. The other reason, apparently is that the 3 cylender (instead of 4) appears to be overtuned instead of the undertuned engine in the Elantra N. For example, the Elantra N OEM comes with about 240 whp, but with a tune and sparkplugs I am getting 320! That thing is undertuned and has bigger and more capable brakes than the GR. The GR, however, is AWD so has better grip and would be better in weather and does fine on the road where overheqting isn't going to be an issue.

[@drumflip1253]

Hyundai for the win. Better interior, adjustable suspension, rear spoiler standard, better tires, an actual armrest for you and the passenger, much better radio, more drive modes that are so easy to go in and out of, it’s just a much better value and more practical. Just the exhaust alone is so much better. Another aspect is the dealers. Toyota dealers are clowns. Huge mark ups, dealer add ons and they will literally call you and ask your highest bids on the GR. That was my experience when looking at them for over 6 months when they first came out. I have owned 3 N cars, two VN and one Kona N. Easy straightforward transaction and no BS.

[@karmahunden]

Did you get your GTI?

[@drumflip1253]

@@karmahunden Last GTI I had was in 2019. Great all around daily. Currently driving BMW 230i Msport XDrive. Love it!

[@layne4376]

The Hyundai has already been part of a massive recall. These are disposable cars. They always have been and they always will be. They do depreciate like a stone so there is that.

[@drumflip1253]

@@layne4376 Sold my Veloster N for $1300 less than I bought it for 1 year after I bought it. They hold their value great and every manufacturer has recalls. Thats not new.

[@layne4376]

@@drumflip1253 I call bunk if you bought it new. They are incredibly cheap a year old. Used? Maybe. And recalls are one thing. But full transmission failures are something else.

[@mdkflip7231]

I have a 2022 DCT N. No issues or recalls with mine and love it

[@QuiquePR]

Here a 2022 Elantra N owner, my car have 31,000 miles with not issues yet, the only issues I have is with the dealership but that's another history. My car is DCT, and for the price is a great value, great suspension, great chasis, impressive handing, my car goes to road trip twice to Daytona, some time to Michelin Road Atlanta and to Dallas, Texas to visit my sister and run autocross, in this trip a get the impressive 40.1 mpg, when I come back to South Carolina I get 37.8 mpg. My brother and me when go to the road mountains between the Carolinas, You love more the car, because your feel the gripping Michelin tires, the suspension, the response of the DCT. My brother is a BMW Fan, he have 3 Bimmer, he drove my Elantra and he said is amazing, he like the brakes, the responsive. I love my 2022 Elantra N. Is my daily driver, everyday I drove my car is everyday I love more.

[@Hello-IC]

I can see that with your profile picture

[@aono335]

Elantra N punches above its weight class. 🎉

[@melmorales7447]

I think a lot of people get hung up on the brand, but in all honesty Hyundai has come a long way. You won’t be disappointed. I could afford an m2/type s/type r. But the sacrifice of not having the freedom to mod and not care about warranty coupled with the fact it’s a weekend vehicle made my choice pretty clear. I love the type r and gr, but the mark ups in NY just rubbed me the wrong way. It’s like they were insulting my intelligence! Trying to add 10k+. Absolutely ridiculous! So I said F all that I’m getting an EN 2024, modding it to 400+ hp and still spend less. Just waiting on my tune rn. With all that said… all the cars I mentioned are amazing, I’m not a hater. But if you’re looking for value and performance, EN hands down.

[@lokinocmrperfaq4two175]

Agreed, igot genesis g80 n miata, N brand n genesis brand just changed way people think of hyundai

[@Airiic]

What tunes are you doing

[@melmorales7447]

N75 stage 3

[@melmorales7447]

@@Airiicn75 stage 3

[@cajunotaku3256]

Both cars are great. I can’t believe the N is only 36K.

[@chrisdafurz]

@c0348whn I completely agree, but it's not 5 years ago anymore. In today's current market, this Elantra N is a great value

[@youngryu7450]

I bought it 58000 au dollor :(.. AU doesnt have factory nearby so it is so expensive

[@lsxfbodygen3]

"There is a Vegas nightclub bathroom level of lines going on here." is the perfect quote to describe the Elantra N.

[@Hello-IC]

I know right!

[@RoMee651]

Han : You're representing me now. What you think, I'm gonna let you roll in a Hyundai? 🤣😂😅

[@curtfox91]

Bank denied me for my CE after having it on order. Ended up getting a Veloster N for 30k less then the GR would of been. Well worth it. I will get a GR down the road if these prices go down.

[@BenBrrown]

I was thinking of doing the same

[@xuimod]

Down in price as in used? You can find a GRC at MSRP if you are patient and want to do the legwork. The GRC forum has a nice spreadsheet of dealers selling at MSRP. The car market in general has cooled down significantly.

[@suave3788]

I choose the N over the GR any day!

[@oraclemiata845]

Make mine the Elantra as well, although I prefer the playfulness and unique character of the deceased Kona N. I’m sure you’re partial to the GRC as owner naturally. Both cars in the test are great.

[@Realistick]

I do love the premise behind the GR, it’s more about character than outright handling, (kind of like Kona N) which is why I bought it. I do intend on replacing it, I just need to find a car that I personally enjoy more (that still fits my needs and budget)🤠

[@fibonacci5574]

Love my Kona N, it's such a fun car and not many people even know it exists

[@temp_user_id]

@@Realistick How many subscribers will throw in $10 for the Realistick GR Corolla Raffle (TM)? The more tickets you buy, the better your chances!

[@RoxUnlimited]

@@fibonacci5574love my Kona N. Such a sleeper compared to the Veloster and Elantra. Damn near nobody knows it exist!

[@jeffc1753]

Kona N owner here as well, there will never be another car like it, mostly because of negative car reviewers who can’t get past their biases of what a performance car “should” be…despite none of them being able to hide their outright enjoyment of it.

[@stevenkim9637]

Depends on your preference, either would be a good choice. However for me, the markup they charge on GR corollas are not acceptable. I know some Hyundai dealers are trying to markup on the N as well, but it’s not as bad as Toyota. Heck neither is as bad as civic type R, but just because I refuse to pay a penny more than MSRP, for me the Elantra N wins.

[@mountainhobo]

Looking forward to the rest of the series.

[@DragonKnightX12]

It's kind of wild too me that Toyota doesn't offer adaptive suspension on the GRC. Specially on the Premium and and Circuit. Seems it could definitely benefit from it. Crazy how Hyundai is able to pack all those features and a DCT for $36k. The price these hot hatches are getting too, specially with markups. Its hard not just go grab a used Supra or Mustang GT.

[@bbb4019]

This is the comparo I’ve been looking for. I was abt to buy an EN but waited for MY24 took too long and got a good deal on a GRC…so yeah.

[@Realistick]

Congrats! I’m glad the GRC market is getting reasonable🎉

[@Young_Bourdain]

I have a 2024 GRC Premium. If I didn't need AWD I would have gone with the Elantra N. Glad to see the GRC has a growing aftermarket and new parts on the horizon though!

[@Mattyboy5190]

Sorry but I got the 24 Elantra N and it beats the Corolla GR all day! The Elantra N is so much more fun!

[@jonathanlinn2656]

I wonder how these two would compare to the Acura Integra Type S. Thoughts?

[@Realistick]

Just got to drive one for my upcoming series, the ITS is maybe just a little more capable but more versatile, upscale, communicative and rewarding to drive in every way. It's biggest downside is the lack of AWD, no AT if you must skip the stick, and the insane price compared to the Toyota and Hyundai!

[@jonathanlinn2656]

@@Realistick i would only be considering a manual transmission verison. These three + the standard Integra are the four cars I'm considering for the next vehicle. well maybe a GLI...

[@elantran]

Both cars are awesome to drive!

[@commentmancommentman1658]

Can't argue with you since you own both lol.

[@sportinhere]

Since the N is the cheapest in price I would HAVE to go with it IF I could afford 36,000. I like the LOOKS of the GR a LOT more but I like everything else more about the N. What a tough choice choosing the N in automatic or stick.

[@Duuhvis]

I bought the GRC, but if I had to sell it. I’d buy an Elantra N. I seriously love what they did with the Elantra N

[@turbobros_online1561]

I have been debating this myself as I will be purchasing in a few months. I am fairly certain I will buy the Elantra N.

[@BassLegendYT]

Do it bro. Ive had mine for 5 months and its been great so far

[@nobass_stub1394]

As always a great video. I personally was looking at the Corolla but my comparison for the GRC wasn't the I30 it was the I20 hatch TBH.. It has an engine of the same size and the car itself is a direct comparison in overall dimensions.... Just a thought?

[@Thisonegoestoeleven666]

The i20N is a little beast. My next car.

[@alexquittner3466]

Corolla is a little smaller than i30, but bigger than i20 for sure. I20N lines up closer to GR Yaris, but the GRY is kinda in a different class power and drivetrain wise.

[@miklas.k]

I20N -> GR Yaris and I30N -> corolla i‘d say

[@DTEL77]

Despite choosing the wrong car (ha ha) it was a very entertaining video. Both are amazing cars, but appeal to different audiences. If you need or want more space and the convenience and speed of the DSG, you'll go EN. If you want to turn back roads into rally stages (and who doesn't) you'll go for the GR.

[@darksolux]

I'm thinking of selling my Focus ST that I've had for almost 10 years - I had it set up perfectly but I am tired of the crappy interior and horrible torque steer - Trying to decide between Elantra N and CGR. Thoughts? I also and +2 kids in car seats since I bought it and will be contending with those carseats for probably another 8 years.

[@normaninsandiego7061]

Excellent review. I would get one of each. 😊

[@Realistick]

Thanks!

[@Ems-w4l]

The elantra N with out octan learning.. It is low boost 15 psi

[@joshuadiaz-pahz9845]

The amount of one sided love to the corolla is insane, besides the power the N is way more satisfying, also the manual in the elantra is great

[@Realistick]

I think you missed all of the praise I gave the EN. Sure, I found the GRC more fun and it’s a little quicker, and the awd is a nice advantage in the midwest but the track value is undeniable with the EN and the interior/ride quality are better. The N MT was just okay, as an automatic, hell yeah!

[@MitchMighty253]

Kinda sucks they don’t come with sunroof too, only on dct

[@ryry623]

Great video

[@SuperFitness12]

The mighty N really is an Amazing thing!!! My next car for sure.

[@alengreen589]

I would buy to 100% the N, thanks 😀

[@godzilla7391]

I was in the market for the new GR Corolla when I heard about it, but as bad as the market markup was, I opted for a 23 Elantra N instead. I was able to grab a new one for 35k. After a year with it, it's been awesome! I also agree 💯 with the Bose radio! One of the 1st things I did was upgrade to JL and also threw in a couple small subs.

[@vr6gls]

Based on the issues you disliked about your Corolla GR. it sounds like a GTI/Golf R would be the perfect replacement. You get all of the performance with none of daily driver drawbacks of the Corolla. They are more comfortable, have a better interior and great modding potential (if you are into that). I would highly recommend considering the VW’s. I own a 2016 Golf GTI with 160,000, trouble free miles. It has been the best car I have ever owned.

[@lancemannion4113]

Mark 7 gti is still a very solid package and hard to beat. Great cars (if maintained!)

[@kennykedits]

Hes already a true elantra N Owner, Never took it out N mode even when highway cruising 🤣

[@timw2083]

I bought a GRC. The N wasn't on my radar, nor was the Type R. I'm glad there are so many affordable hatches and sedans. Enthusiasts have choices 🎉

[@official_commanderhale965]

I have the 23' DCT EN rn, but I've been looking at the GRC for its aftermarket room and tuning for a possible fun car. I'll get a boring EV for the work drive and save up for parts. Ik the GRC isn't all that spectacular in the interior, but that's fine. Heck, a 7-speed sequential will fix the weak transmission issues. Want to have a fun car I can mod and make my own, but in a manual.

[@aono335]

Then why choose GRC? Get a GT86

[@TheReal_JG]

The biggest deal breaker with the GR is that you can't even drive it past 85 mph (ECU logged) or it completely voids your warranty if the car goes up in flames or blows the engine. Hyundai may have engine reliability issues themselves (havent seen it for the EN models tho), but at least I've seen them honor their 10-year engine warranty.

[@Realistick]

That’s definitely not true, might make a video explaining it but the 85 mph thing was a dumb thing sent out by some bot at Toyota, it might only be applicable to a car sold with the worst tires imaginable! The warranty issue is frustrating but the two stories of claim denial had a lot of fishiness surrounding them. Hyundai dealers and warranties also don’t have the best reputation, even if the length of them are great!

[@sleety00]

Excited to hear about your sub 50k enthusiast comparison. I own a gr86 and tho it’s my dream car, the curiosity bug just makes me sooo curious about the Elentra N (and the upgrade in practicality and street comfort)

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

in my opinion its not worth it. GR86 is almost perfect, short of a crappy engine. I Drive s2000 and Type r, and i keep thinking how much better it feels in the s2000 despite the type R being more usable friendly due to cargo/interior space. GR86 solves the usable/space issues that s2000 has and has a modern feel of a RWD light weight vehicle.

[@andycollins6156]

I have 22 n line and it has wireless car play have no idea why the 24 n wouldn't

[@Realistick]

Hyundai’s larger touchscreen doesn’t have it! Only the smaller one, it’s confusing

[@jinwoo3963]

Dct has wireless

[@gregblack8550]

My buddy has had his GR for six months . His warning is test drive it as long as you can as when the novelty wears off the daily driving is not great .

[@nari7967]

Brother has a Gallon of gas @4:15 (I love mine 24 premium, Get 35+ mpg when im not really using the Turbo its great but it quickly drops to 17 when im trying to ego check mustangs and camaros in corners)

[@jakemartincic]

Doesn’t seem like you can go wrong with either car honestly. But I’m partial to the GRC because it looks more like an Evo…one of my personal all-time favorites. Great video!!

[@patrickgagnon9662]

The N all the way.

[@AllOutNoobHater]

Out of curiosity, doesn’t the Premium trim for the GRC elevate the interior with more soft touch materials, leather, etc? Wouldn’t that fix the shortcomings of the Core interior?

[@Realistick]

Good question! Not really, most of the interior b-roll here is from the premium. It basically just changes the seats on the interior. The circuit adds more leatherette points, glossy stuff and stitching but is largely the same and $46k😵‍💫

[@Boostedbeard]

For sure Im N biased here since Ive owned 4 N vehicles. That being said price alone these are hard to compare. Streetwise you will have the same fun more or less. Track wise ehh a little more in the GR but less lux and creature comforts on the way home. OTD for a GR is well over 40k thanks to dealers and EN you can get msrp with factory rebates all day.

[@ikennaonwunli5072]

I wonder if you have driven the Porsche 911 GT3 and if you have, is the manual gear box as good as that of the Miata? One reviewer, I think Engineering Explained opined that only the 911 ST has a manual gear box as sweet as that of the Miata and I wanted to know if you agree. The 911st is heavily based on the GT3 but the GT3 is 'easier' to get than the ST.

[@junkazama7922]

Elantra is nice but I’m worried about the reliability.

[@popsandbangs8858]

Don't listen to haters Take care of the car do your maintenance do some good quality oil and it will give you all the goodies for a long time

[@cindysue5474]

Just do regular service and use an oil catch can good oil I use Redline 5W30 change plugs every 40K you're good to go.

[@lancemannion4113]

This is why I won't touch a Kia or Hyundai until they get their reliability issues in order. I've just read too many horror stories online and seeing news reports of people filing lawsuits (!) against the brand(s). Obviously Toyota has a well earned reputation, despite a few hiccups (big trucks) ..but a good price to performance equation never trumps long term customer satisfaction.

[@jinwoo3963]

@@lancemannion4113most where just lies from hate

[@AlikSukiasov]

Someone should make video comparison Elantra N vs BMW M3 e92

[@Realistick]

It would be neat, but there is ZERO comparison, the E92 is amazing if you can afford the upkeep🤕

[@BryanCortez-xm1le]

I can’t wait for mine to come in, this August !

[@josemanuelruiz2036]

What happened with the Celica???

[@Daveyboy_RS3]

It seems like the EN is made to be really enjoyed with That's super quick wet 8spd DCT. If you Absolutely want a manual, I don't think this is the one.

[@oemj7147]

The manual is fantastic. Definitely the first choice for any enthusiast.

[@Daveyboy_RS3]

@@oemj7147as far as manual transmissions go, it's quite vague and rubbery. Still very fun and engaging but, type R, GR86 manuals are far more direct and connected.

[@oemj7147]

@@Daveyboy_RS3 I disagree. GR86 has an inferior transmission and the one in the Type R feels better but only when it doesn't grind second and third. Miata is the car with the best manual transmission overall.

[@Daveyboy_RS3]

@@oemj7147 Yeah I agree the Miata It does have the best transmission but I didn't mention it, neither did I mention the S2000 which I used to have. Both of those have fantastic transmissions... I'm personally not a huge fan of the EN manual.. It's not bad, I just personally think that the car shines more with the DCT. But that's me, and a lot of others. Take care

[@enriquealvarez4702]

Civic type r ftw

[@Realistick]

Soon

[@Beezy_Builds]

Great comparison! Got a sub and like from me

[@gurgenmakaryan4428]

Those type of cars i guess we buy for driving dynamics, not for interior materials quality

[@anotheran]

For the price of the gr circuit, I’d rather buy an integra type s. Ctr preferred if it’s not marked up

[@SaltStorm007]

The markups are RIDICULOUS!! Went to look at a new Type R....+$60k OTD they wanted/+10k over MSRP (type s is +52MSRP)🤯Another dealerTried adding +$5k to a GRC core I was looking at.....told them they would have to sell me that one for under MSPR just so I could change the color because it was red😂(I love @#$&ing with car salesman). I have one that has been calling me for 3days now trying to get +48k for a GRC premium.....told him to call me when he can do $43k OTD. I am not paying that BS. ESPECIALLY when trying to just buy it outright! I have Been saving up and I am not going to give it away to a dealer. Been driving an old 350z and I can keep driving it until I get the price I want! All of that BS has me looking at Elantra N’s now (can actually get ine for under MSRP! For what they are wanting for all these markups, I could buy an EN and drop +$10k in it and have a MONSTER (wouldn’t for the warranty but the principal is still there). These dealers have lost their 🧠 and people that pay those prices have too! It is starting to correct itself slowly......they were charging +$10k over MSRP for the GRC’s not long ago. Hope that you and yours have a blessed one.

[@abumdzafarsadeque9167]

I don't understand all the fuss about GR Corolla. Yes, it has power and fun to drive. But it's expensive and looks very boring and like a regular Corolla. I am not a Hyundai fan, but think Elantra N offers a much nicer looking car and overall performance for the money. Yes, Toyota is historically more reliable. But GR Corolla has a turbo engine which won't be as reliable in the long run compared to a naturally aspirated engine. And people who buy sports sedans, normally not worried about how the car will perform after 300,000 miles I really think GR Corolla is over hyped.

[@mengx94]

That's why I settled on an 06 Acura tl

[@Realistick]

I think you had the right idea initially on why people like the GRC. It’s because it’s fun to drive, awd, manual, and quick. For some, that’s all they want, they don’t care much about the interior or a super comprehensive aero kit! Driving them back to back, neither car is overhyped in the slightest.

[@abumdzafarsadeque9167]

I had the opportunity to buy either GR Corolla or, GR86. My choice was very easy. I went with GR86. Sorry, can't drive an ugly car like GR Corolla. GR86 looks 100x times better and RWD.

[@rtatunay]

I think that the GRC shares that whole thing with the Evo. The interior is not quite as nice as other cars, but people love to drive the hell out of it because it’s fun to drive. No one buys these cars for the interior, but they do indeed buy them for the raw driving experience.

[@SaltStorm007]

@@abumdzafarsadeque9167As long as you aren’t too tall. Put a deposit on a GR86 and it was WAY TOO SMALL for me. Knee was hitting the e-brake/steering wheel, inside was cramped. The GRC has more room for me. NTM, the GR86 cup holder was right where my arm/elbow rested.

[@m3lowiesvlog715]

Albert biermann N Power > GR

[@xXspark365Xx]

Only thing preventing me to buy the GR is how freaking bad the interior is

[@Realistick]

It's a basic econobox at the root, is it cheap, yes, but if you love everything else, I definitely wouldn't let that stand in your way. If you want something more refined with awd and similar performance, you might have to go Golf R! (But then you're spending 7k more and have frustrating controls). GIve and take.

[@AngelHernandez-ew9uc]

The GR Corolla is like 10 to 15k overprice for what is worth I’ll take the Elantra N all day

[@Realistick]

So you’re getting a quicker car with awd, but now it needs to be 5-10k cheaper than the Elantra N😂

[@aechronos403]

wish they kept the veloster n alive

[@jasoniviejr.7925]

Everybody tests the slower version of the EN like put the best version of that car against it. I get the others only are manual, but they are all thousands upon thousands more expensive and even then only offer manual by choice

[@Realistick]

CTR an GRC are MT only. Additionally, it sort of depends on what the manufacturer lends out.

[@Symphoniics]

⁠​⁠@@RealistickI mean, at the track or drag strip, nobody says “Oh, that win doesn’t count because they had an auto which means the race wasn’t fair.” The only place where people make that excuse is online. People routinely underestimate what the EN can do because (1) the manual is used in comparisons more often and (2) the EN is rarely octane learned during tests. The EN DCT is incredibly capable and punches even further above its weight than the manual. Just my 2 cents. Love the video btw. You made a lot of nuanced points, and I can tell you’re having a bunch of fun

[@TuscaniGT]

@@Symphoniics This seems to be the overall theme with 99% of comparisons with the N. They always use the 6 speed because the other cars don't offer an auto so they want it to be "fair" yet somehow the much higher price tag of the other cars is perfectly fine.

[@chrisdafurz]

You deserve more subscribers, my man!

[@blackcow8114]

dunno if its even fair comparing these two, one is a fwd sedan while the other is an awd hatch

[@4xeGuy]

24 Elantra N is a lot faster than Gr Corolla and it won't burn itself going over 85 mph

[@labradachig1976]

Forget about the conversation between my car and I. If I'm going full speed thru the corners I'm going to have a different conversation with my wife.

[@Thisonegoestoeleven666]

Time for a trade in! Of wife!😉

[@TerryManitoba]

GRC ADL !!!

[@TerryManitoba]

I am Soooo Done with my FWD Fiesta ST

[@commentmancommentman1658]

Thank God hyundai updated the elantra N. The pre facelift looks like shit!

[@TuscaniGT]

Looks are for sure subjective. People that already thought the N was ugly seem to like the facelift more but most on the fb pages like the original more. I bought a new 23 before they moved to the 24's because I think the new look is boring and doesn't fit the rest of the car. Front looks less aggressive and added some hideous hood lines while the new rear end is terrible anyway you slice it.

[@commentmancommentman1658]

@@TuscaniGT i have seen the new one. The old one doesn't even come close

[@CrystalNinja07]

Totally agree. Hyundai updated it in all the right places. Modernised it. I waited 2 long yeats for a refresh and bought the 24!

[@TuscaniGT]

@@commentmancommentman1658 I've also seen both in person and glad I bought a 23. Just not a fan of the Jetta front and WRX diaper rear of the 24 but it still looks decent overall. Happy that the facelift has brought even more people into liking the car though because it's amazing regardless of year.

[@cindysue5474]

But it needs an armrest in the back seat big time.

[@Duran762]

Manual doesn’t live up to the elantras potential. Get DCT or get a different car.

[@anthonyscott5484]

Gr corolla engines are blowing up on forums.. im good fam. I have an elantra N and plenty of N cars such as veloster N are pushing above 100-180k miles

[@Realistick]

Almost exclusively, the only instances I’ve heard where there was a GR engine problem, was after a money shift. I’ve heard way more problems from the EN DCT than anything with the GRC (though the trans problem was fixed!).

[@anthonyscott5484]

@@Realistick the early days of the EN had a recall for DCT which was just an update to its shifting program. But in terms of reliability of the DCT it's mostly reliable I've heard a few DCT replacements but they've all been under warranty. But the GRC money shift thing was wild but that's mainstream media reporting, the real problems are revealed in forums where people are posting blown engines.. there's not a lot (yet) but they've been popping up more frequently

[@Realistick]

@@anthonyscott5484 The EN DCT also had a recall with the oil pump. I dig through the GRC forums regularly, and double-checked just now, I found nothing suggesting engine failure as a GRC problem. Just enjoy the cars and try not to feed into others who hate just to hate! I am sure there are people who spread BS about the GRC without counting on those to research it just as much as there are Hyundai haters who relentlessly call the brand garbage because they watched one Scotty Kilmer video.

[@anthonyscott5484]

@@Realistick that DCT recall only had lil over 200 actual cases and only lil over 53k affected in the recall those numbers are nothing in reality. I'm reading the same thing you are. But also on the GRC idk what platform you're looking on but clearly we aren't on the same platforms looking. I find them ona quick KZbin search and videos pop up immediately the more you scroll down, individual facebook posts/groups and Reddit posts that may have gotten removed.. cause now I can't find them on Reddit. The GRC for what it is is cool but this is the car community everyone's gonna fight over ones other cars. But Toyota in latest car media has been all over the place. Hyundai hasn't been pretty either lately but then again mainstream media wants to blow Hyundai out of proportion at times.

[@Realistick]

@@anthonyscott5484 I went through reddit and KZbin, still nothing other than someone saying he needed a motor mount and people money shifting it (maybe you're seeing stuff from when people modify them?). I think toyota's image has big stains on it currently because of some of the Tundra's issues and their dealers that gouge tf out of customers!

[@2BXD]

Should of swapped the car locations for the thumbnail

[@mikipavloski5239]

I love my Elantra N DCT 2024, EVO X successor

[@chrisvilla2100]

Drag Race?

[@DandyDan123]

I'm still confused why 1.6 when Toyota is known for making great 2.0 4cyl Turbo motors like the 3sgte!!!!! I think in the little Yaris....so cool in the 3300 lbs corolla it is just okay!!! It's like they are not aloud to give us poor people too much fun stuff!!! Such BS!! We are being restricted on purpose!!!

[@juanticimo]

I own, an 05 STI and a VB wrx, but im always rooting for the Elantra N.. btw ill never understand this kind of journalism. Its a super biased review no matter how removed you try to be.. There is going to be confirmation bias, for the GR corolla because you bought it. So the comparison is a bit diminished. As someone who owns neither car, I dont have a dog in this race, but perhaps a better veiw point would be materialized if the review was from someone who didnt own one of the cars in the comparison.. That being said, the interior in the GR corolla is unacceptable for that price point, and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves. for the same msrp, a civic type R can be had (hypothetically) and that car absolutely demolishes the GR corolla in every way. The N is the clear winner here, even with its dismal FWD setup.. Get the AT, and enjoy.

[@Realistick]

I understand why you'd believe that, but I think you need to understand my position too. This is my job, I bought the GRC because, sure, it grabbed my attention, but it was also to make content with and I think you missed the part where I said I am trying to replace the GR Corolla with a new long term review car. The EN is great and it easily earned my recommendation, but it is no clear winner, if it was, I'd buy it... and then people would call me biased for that too! I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is when I say that a car is awesome, the EN falls under that label, yet I have more fun driving the GR Corolla. Which is preference and why I don't just call the GRC the better car period. Also, the CTR is not the same price, not even close (the EN and GRC are closer...$7k difference before the Honda's insane markups). As for the interior, it's an econobox with 300 hp, 3 pedals and awd, not a $40k luxury compact commuter. It would be nice to have a nicer cabin, but these sell out because of the performance and the experience, not the amenities, just like the 05 STI (;

[@jonttran1092]

@@Realistick. On the street the GR Corolla launches better and that’s about it.. Elantra N is line ball everywhere else, it’s more practical as a daily driver and cheaper to buy.. I’d give it a narrow win to Elantra N… also pro drivers on other channels are calling the clutch shifter and steering better on the Elantra N over GR Corolla…

[@Realistick]

@@jonttran1092 Respectfully, I can't imagine any driver saying that the EN manual transmission is better, but everyone has their own opinion! To me, the EN feels better stock on a track, so it would make sense that Pros would like it, but on the street, it's a different story. Also, I put Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires on the GRC and that fixed a lot of the problems with driving near the limits. I still think the EN is more reactive but I'm confused by why Toyota went with just the PS4, a tire that's not any cheaper, has less grip, and doesn't last longer...

[@unexplainedwearenotalone3537]

Hey is not same category this hatchback small AWD vs sedan fwd and you choose manual this not fair trying compare with automatic Elantra N and still no need proof is far far best better that Toyota full speed or track racing we saw i30 n beat track Nurb and vs rain still Hyundai is just far far vs Toyota like we remember optima when come out first time beat Toyota so hard so hard thry crying like some vw same story because when kia have 6 spend automatic keep gear red line never change the vw no have glu or idea how make right automatic so please don't make joke Toyota vs Hyundai is like pass vs future its thst same? If we can talk EV is just kill Toyota for break fast eat them alive and quality Hyundai top one and price always Hyundai kia is better vs Japan

[@shaolinwarrior87]

I have the GR Corolla and the interior is kind of crappy. However, after driving it for awhile, I realize Toyota put more money into the performance of the car and its designed to be an enthusiast car with a focus on track driving. There's a reason why its only available in a manual, just like the S2000

[@MichaelMichael-q8y]

That Daewoo interior on the Toyota though.

[@ebmk96]

Stealership wanted 42k USD for a GRC with 7 THOUSAND miles on it. Nope.

[@enmass90]

Hyundai did a great job with the Elantra but AWD > FWD full stop. I just wish the dealer markups would stop with the GRC at least here in California. Hyundai Elantra N. The official car of “we have a Civic Type R at home”.

[@oraclemiata845]

I disagree with ALL of the above statement.

[@Realistick]

It really is the best car for someone that wants a CTR but has some financial sense left!

[@mharro88]

@@Realistickthe N is more fun to drive than the CTR. Owner both

[@AnotherKOR]

안 살 이유가 없는 차 입니다.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

I never understood why reviewers compare the EN with cars that are $10k more (GR Corolla, Type R) without markups. EN competitor is the Honda civic Si, which is essentially the same price after you add options equivalent to the EN. You know the Si is no competition performance wise.

[@Realistick]

In my area, GRs go for msrp, which is a few grand more than the EN. It’s compared to these cars because it’s an alternative to them, performance-wise, for less money.

[@thedragon6499]

@@JohnLee-db9zt the Civic SI is not comparable. Only an idiot compares a 200 horsepower car against one that does 276 horsepower. Nobody cares about your SI, and you could have saved more and got a CTR, which is the competition.

[@SaltStorm007]

@@RealistickAround what area/state or is that? Everywhere I’ve looked has a large markup.....lowest ones so far has been +$5k over MSRP and +$3k over MSRP. I refuse to pay that BS....especially when trying to buy it outright after saving up for it and driving an old 350z. With these markups, I will keep driving it too😂That is what has me looking at the EN. Went to look at a type r and they wanted +$60k OTD/ basically +$10k over MSRP + Taxes, tags, title, etc.

[@Hybrid9830]

I will never get that LOL😂😂

[@douglaskrueger357]

GR is the better looking car by a long shot. It’s a proper hot hatch and feels thought out. The N is a design mess and just has too many embellishments that make it look very odd at certain angles. Hyundai really doesn’t make great looking cars …

[@Shadowen925]

I really want a GR, though I've been a bit of a Toyota fanboy for a while so that holds some weight.

[@TaySo_Real]

Yeah if you had automatic you probably get a better time. Because your shifting is "mmhhmmm"...

[@Realistick]

Let me just use my legs to create ten more horsepower, aggressive gearing, good launch control, and a second clutch🤓

[@Drifter18903]

Golf R Wins

[@layne4376]

Golf R. Better than all the rest.

[@mharro88]

The most boring yeah

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

definitely does everything well.....the biggest turn off is the maintenance. Other cars can do the same tricks, with less involved maintenance/cost. For example, the GTI differential service requires right temperature and OEM fluids, which equates to more time/cost involved to do a simple drain/fill service. On the Type R, you change your Transmission fluid...and the LSD is serviced automatically because they share the same fluid. No need to make sure it is the right temperature or even have to use OEM fluid, you can use BETTER fluids. The end result, the Type R does it better in performance, and yet easier to maintain.

[@douglaskrueger357]

I wish VW made the R to compete … it’s just that it can’t compare to its hot hatch competition anymore. It’s like VW puts no passion into it. I would have bought one for sure if they built ground up and made it special. The problem with the R is that it doesn’t have the same driving experience and feel as its completion … CTR, N and GR. I also doubt the VW will wake up as they are building just meh vehicles. Too bad, I love the brand and just wish they were doing more.

[@layne4376]

@@mharro88 Both of these cars will only see the R's tail lights so there is that.

[@layne4376]

@@douglaskrueger357 LMAO. MK8 Golf R is more than competitive (see Car and Driver's LIghtning Lap). It is also the vastly superior daily. If you get the DSG it traps as high as 112 mph with a mid 12 second quarter mile time. You are clearly stoned.

[@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621]

"Gr corona"😂 just why do toyota think "corolla" is a good name? It hasn’t aged well since the covid days tbh. Also I don’t think this gr version will ever be the supra and they should of left it at that tbh

[@HarryTwatter]

Phone broiler lol. Those wireless pads are such gimmicks

[@nobass_stub1394]

......and work like a treat. Love mine to death as it keeps it kool in its charging compartment as it streams wirelessly to the audio system.. Probably the ONLY decent technology addition that's worthwhile having standard on any new car!!!!!

[@lokinocmrperfaq4two175]

Bia😅 busting creator of video's ball in gentle playful manner

[@xuimod]

No adaptive cruise control is a absolute deal breaker for the EN. No adaptive cruise control means the Elantra N gets automatically deleted from my shopping list.

[@thedragon6499]

@@xuimod cool story. They will go bankrupt because of 1 consumer like you. Nobody cares what you decide to buy or not buy 🤣

[@Splendid_Lad]

Sorry not sorry, but the GR doesn’t look like a $40K vehicle. It looks cheap inside and out.

[@Droolboy]

It’s funny because I’ve seen other videos of actual drivers (who win real races) saying the exact opposite about these cars and their handling capabilities. They agree the GR feels disconnected and not quite right on a track like the N is

[@Realistick]

I said the N handles better in stock form, but no, not as much feedback on a backroad. I could see someone thinking the gr feels more disconnected from a grip standpoint. The N turns in sharper, but the steering doesn’t talk quite as much nor does the gearbox.

[@wholeNwon]

After my friend's experience getting Hyundai to perform a major warranty repair, I'll NEVER own one. Yes, they eventually did do the repair but did it incorrectly and he wound up just paying his own mechanic to fix it.

[@Sonic_N1]

Bet it wasn't an N. Also every manufacturer will drag out a major repair. The techs have to do lots of deep dives, prove it is a manufacturer defect, and do every solution the warranty team tells them to do. They have to follow protocol. I've seen techs who been in the business for 20 years make mistakes as simple as putting oil and leaving the oil cap off or forgetting to put oil in the car. Shit happens!

[@wholeNwon]

@@Sonic_N1 Nope, the defect was grossly obvious and they dragged their feet for months. Lemon law and his attorney moved things along but they still botched the repair. I will NEVER have anything to do with any Hyundai/Kia product. I stick to Toyota/Lexus and have been happy for decades.

[@wholeNwon]

@@Sonic_N1 It was a Genesis.

[@BDA0531]

@@Sonic_N1 Nope. Hyundai are among the worst to deal with when it comes to honoring warranties and overall taking care of customers. Ironic considering long warranties being their main selling point

[@oemj7147]

That imaginary friend of course. Meanwhile Hyundai and Kia are at the top for reliability in JD Power.

[@박동석-u7u]

hyundai all the way.