Edit: Apparently the new Matco gun is not made by either IR or PTP. Here's testing the IR with the same air coupler as the Matco: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIPPhZyCmc2qhbM The creator of this channel also works in product development for Astro tools, which includes the 1895 that just got handed a whole lot of whoop ass by the MT3779. The dyno doesn't know what tool's strapped to it, but it's always a good idea to consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
@LabiaLicker8 ай бұрын
Transparency W
@zeitgeist27208 ай бұрын
Respect
@jjchouinard23278 ай бұрын
Was that water dripping from the hose fittings or oil?
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
@@jjchouinard2327 Air tool oil. We also used the same Milton V fittings. But some are rightly pointing out that the couplers were different between the two weeks we tested these. Which is a result of our red milton 5 way taking a dump, and needed to use a previous coupler we've used on the channel. But we can test the IR with the same coupler this week and add a link here (ETA Thursday). We've not seen a measurable difference before, but appreciate you guys highlighting this.
@Wolfman_33448 ай бұрын
If you are in product development, and you test pneumatic and electric impacts.. is there a chance Astro will develop electric tools at some point?
@jordanrussell3458 ай бұрын
The disconnect between the swappable anvil tips and the hammer is where all the torkems are escaping.
@sc50158 ай бұрын
Every slippable contact point of an impact is where beans slip through. Jack and his magical beanstalk only had one branch to the golden goose, just sayin'
@G5Hohn8 ай бұрын
The reason the extension adds power here is because the normal loss of torsional stiffness (as you'd get with thin extensions) is greatly reduced by a hugely thick diameter. Add to that the extra mass which acts a bit like a heavy socket and presto-- more avg torque.
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
Agreed, matches what we see with attachments so its behaving like a external attachment. Where as we're swapped to extended anvils on old school impacts with no measurable difference.
@MattA-787788 ай бұрын
I’m wondering how a 6” impact extension on a regular tool anvil comps to a 6” IR anvil?
@NVMDSTEvil8 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel now weld a bunch of weight onto the hammer assembly then transplant it into a milwaukee
@LukeA_554 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I'm curious to see what would happen if they made a weighted extension
@JustinVodden8 ай бұрын
You have to put in the anvil yourself. That's how they can state "assembled in USA" you did the final assembly
@elijahto48758 ай бұрын
Seems about par for the course for IR to me. I used to work for IR air compressor division and every new iteration seemed to be less reliable and worse than the last. They seem like a company complacent in resting on their history.
@markm00008 ай бұрын
Every old company is like that nowadays. I have a cool waterproof Fluke multimeter and it has bad connections where the test leads plug into. It’s just a bad design. I live with it because I’m not measuring super precise stuff at work and I didn’t pay full price.
@billdoodson42328 ай бұрын
IR compressors were really rough for a long time. Atlas not much better and getting worse. I started using Compair and they went downhill, last lot were HPC (Kaeser) and much better. Glad I'm retired.
@Low7608 ай бұрын
Wurth stopped using their ones rebranded for similar reasons I think
@sgtbrown42738 ай бұрын
I feel you, brother, master Ingersoll Rand compressor technician here. Over 20 years with the company split my share of SSR 100-350s worked with the old XLE and PHE . I loved the company, but from 2000 to 2010, Ingersoll Rand basically sold their souls if you asked me. Crap Weg motors from china,the #$@ $#@% Nirvanas about destroyed our relationship with our customers. It's a complete shame because they ran off all their good technicians and ran the line in the dirt. I have all IR tools and compressors for my shop but old tools. Hell the Type 30 was the best line ever made but as you know they ruined that as well. Sad 😔
@Comm0ut5 ай бұрын
I got bahned for some reason by mentioning an American company whose initials are SB but they still make their very nice pumps in the US. I scored a couple used ones dirt cheap because they had three phase motors (no problem, I have an RPC) and it's convenient to be able to get parts.
@mattsoutherden8 ай бұрын
IR: "Hey, thanks for making this for us China, would you like credit on the packaging?" China: * looks at backwards controls * "No, you guys go right ahead"
@jhutchison80968 ай бұрын
But it's assembled in USA: because you were in the USA when you assembled the anvil that China left left loose in the box.
@VMan76558 ай бұрын
This was the comment I was looking for. Thanks man you made my day 😂
@UnloadedRex8 ай бұрын
I got the Matco when they were still new on the trucks a few months ago. It is now the most powerful impact in our shop and it’s been fantastic.
@victorhoyt43528 ай бұрын
What's really crazy about this video is the reminder of just how powerful the dcf900 is...
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
In forward :P
@slingin_tires8 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Are forwards numbers not included on the rank chart for BCS? My memory tells me the 900 made 936-942 in forwards
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
@@slingin_tires they are. But depending on the chart it's only the battery they will include in a kit when tested
@slingin_tires8 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Understood
@stevenhzoll70578 ай бұрын
Years ago SnapOn offered a splined anvil impact wrench, didn't work then either.
@derricktrottier67634 ай бұрын
you can get most of the domestic brand impacts that are 1" square drives in what the industry calls #5 splined anvil, and a bunch of companies make spline drive sockets, its mostly used in the petrochemical industry.... i worked in the pneumatic tool business for 20yrs, i retired about 9 yrs ago.
@ThePracticalPeasant8 ай бұрын
I for one appreciate the appearance of air tools; I haven't yet been fully converted to cordless...
@gf2e8 ай бұрын
I’m looking at these and wondering if I should be looking at air tools more :)
@ThePracticalPeasant8 ай бұрын
@@gf2e Depending on your exact use case, that might not be a bad idea... My two cents In a shop environment where there's alrealdy an air supply, I still think it's a no-brainer, despite the power density of batteries. I feel that by and large, pneumatic tools still provide a better combination of size, power, and and durability for a price as despite living in a very rust-prone geographic location, I have yet to come across a chassis bolt on a passenger vehicle that my decade old sub-$200 air-impact won't chew right through given a decent air supply. If the air line pisses you off, plumb an extension directly onto the tool to reduce the number of fittings around one's hand. I personally use a high quality swivel on the tool, followed by a 12' whip of light-gauge line, connected to heavy lines in the shop. 99% of the time, the reduced flow caused by the whip is still sufficient for the job at hand; and when it's not, temporarily removing the whip is quick and simple. There are plenty of air ratchets barely bigger than a tube of toothpaste, yet the average battery powered air-ratchet is of similar size to a 15A corded angle-grinder... a light air line that follows your arm will never be an issue if the tool doesn't easily slip in to tight spots. A small 1/4" battery gun for under-hood work? Sure, I get it, but where I live I'd prefer to break small fasteners free manually, lest the first two kicks of an impact wrench twist the corroded heads right off. YMMV
@Firebrick438 ай бұрын
You changed the air hose quick disconnect between testing the IR and the Matco gun. Different quick disconnects can make a significant changes to air flow to the tool
@billl75512 ай бұрын
Yes, which brings up the standard pressure, hose, and connections into the comparisons. Are they stated somewhere? I always use 175 psi for my heavy jobs and know of a heavy equipment shop that had trouble with 3/4" tools and had to upgrade the couplers, hoses and fittings to ensure pressure at the tool were sufficient. Otherwise outstanding channel and techniques for accurate comparisons. This is why a 45yr veteran engineer and mechanic comes here.
@stephenbridges27918 ай бұрын
That's disappointing for the Ingersoll Rand. I have one I used back in the 70's and 80's. It was, and still is; a very good impact. They really need to do something about those settings being so out of register. A good many wouldn't figure that out, unless they were looking for it in advance. IR needs to take a look at your tests, at the very least. Really a shame.
@CallMeMrChainmail8 ай бұрын
I came to watch this but immediately underneath is a short of a guy shooting oxygen tanks. Sorry.
@Zipppyart8 ай бұрын
Guessing you came from Edwin? That guy is nuts and i love it
@orijimi8 ай бұрын
That sounds like a deeply uninteresting thing to watch. Glad I'm not getting that garbage.
@mishmash48918 ай бұрын
Where is this video you speak of
@ianwright65028 ай бұрын
Just had to go find that video. It’s awesome!
@yolosquad7808 ай бұрын
fair honestly
@stacksofslaps74428 ай бұрын
I will never nor will i be in a field that requires impact wrenchs, but something about this channel makes it addicting to watch
@NONO-hz4vo8 ай бұрын
I do eyeglass repair at the senior citizen center, Finding the adapters to get my 2235 turning screws was tricky but the RPMs have really helped my flat rate numbers.
@toddlaplanteVT858 ай бұрын
@NONO-hz4vo Nice! Just a few uggua-duggus.. dont want tweak the frames! 😂
@aussiegruber868 ай бұрын
Same 😂
@uiopuiop34728 ай бұрын
power tool make me feel like GOD
@carvesnow7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm in healthcare. I am obsessed with this channel.
@MustangAficionado8 ай бұрын
"Be careful with the settings on the 3/8" anvil" proceeds to have backwards power settings that swap around when you flip to forward. Does it come with a decoder ring?
@IcecalGamer8 ай бұрын
That UX "design" is something I'd expect from a Temu tool. It even has the "multitool" 10-in-1 attachment strat going
@freedomofmotion8 ай бұрын
Got a dcf 900 because of this channel. Happy to see it's still way up there.
@siberx48 ай бұрын
That spline drive is an interesting idea, but they'd need to somehow redesign it to eliminate backlash to avoid the power loss they're seeing because impact wrenches are intermittent tools. Maybe some kind of mild taper with a collar that locks it down into the splines?
@klikliks_service8 ай бұрын
The 2135 is a beast bought it almost 20 years ago. Still works great. I'd like it if you tried the cornwell 1 in pistol grip.
@rashestkhan28788 ай бұрын
I have a 2135qxpa, it was pretty low on power so I ripped out the mufflers in the handle and around the motor, now its one of the most powerful in the shop
@kevinsellsit55848 ай бұрын
You should be extremely proud of what you do. Things like running the gun at realistic shop pressures (130-150) and the charts make this the go to for industry and individuals. Thanks
@patrick1888 ай бұрын
The "issue" that causes higher performance in reverse at the low setting is not really an issue. The regulator reduces performance in forward by bleeding live air to exhaust which it cannot do in reverse. However, every 2 direction air motor requires what is called a secondary exhaust path which is incorporated into the reverse valve. This creates an air path from the non-driven side of the motor to exhaust which prevents recompression of air as the air chambers on the non-driving side of the motor compress. The forward regulator in the lowest setting allows for increased secondary exhaust flow, which increases performance. Not sure how you set air pressure for your testing but if you set it to 90 dynamically you should get close to the rated number, unless IR is rating it with a statistical Max for safety purpose.
@ROADIEZ8248 ай бұрын
@TTC I'm glad to see you're not ashamed to say anything when your products(you workfor\on) are beaten. But one thing Astro does have a couple things better w\the THOR! Longevity of product testing & a way better price! So to me saving some coin & still having a kick ass impact is way better than the newest,cutest girl down on the corner while charging for it. Might as well get some money before the looks go to crap!😅
@Precisionreelworks8 ай бұрын
I still hold to the fact that something asked to do many things cannot do any one of them up to expectations. I wonder if the mass of the extended anvil behaves like a weighted socket. It would also be interesting to weld the anvil into the new IR and see how much it's really losing
@Dan-wt7jx8 ай бұрын
I like the idea of the interchangeable anvils, but if im reaching for air, we are in a serious situation, i jeed good power and i am going to just lay into it until the bolt moves, and im not sure if this isnthe gun for that gig.
@brandoncrimmins62968 ай бұрын
Years ago. Spline Drive guns were pretty common for guns the size of 3/4” and 1” . They had external splines though instead of internal and the sockets all had splined receptacles to match.
@olgajoachimosmundsen46478 ай бұрын
You need to get a hold of the dcf860 and dcd1007. They are already available in Asia
@dingusbingus85548 ай бұрын
All this time and effort and only now is matco first of any to barely edge out the astro for 3x the price at that. What is going to be their next major flagship impact?
@williamhawkins65048 ай бұрын
awesome video and videos, shame i cant get matco tools in australia, i would love to see you guys do more videos "hotrodding" other air impacts to see the numbers change
@deluxe1of18 ай бұрын
I got that Matco in purple a few months ago and it kick ass like nothing else. It was expensive but it’s made its money tenfold.
@Thebassguru848 ай бұрын
Are you oiling the air tools when you use them? I know it sounds dumb but it helps
@Wagonman59008 ай бұрын
I just bought the Matco on Monday, so I had a vested interest. Good to see it put in a good showing.
@noc80768 ай бұрын
Looks like IR has to come out with a special set of sockets with splines to avoid those energy loosing sloppy seconds.
@I1S13378 ай бұрын
I bought the 2779 last year a few months before the 3779 came out, I was a little disappointed that had I waited a little I could have got the new one but in the end I still love the 2779. It’s a beast and gets work done, haven’t ever needed more power from it yet.
@quazy13288 ай бұрын
The spline drive would work better on larger guns like 3/4 to 1 inch. Kind of a waste for IR to put it on a half inch gun. Swapping from a standard anvil to a extended anvil or swapping from 1 inch to 3/4 inch would be nice so I won't have large guns taking up the limited space on my service truck.
@aurtisanminer28278 ай бұрын
I have the matco 1/2“ impact from 5 years ago and have been amazed by the power it makes.
@philmariop8 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could touch on the differences between "Made in USA" vs "assembled", buy American, and how those labels are regulated or total scammery.
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
Oh man, I could talk for a long time on this. But simply Made in USA has to be wholly or virtually all made and processed in the 50 states. If the product is close to raw material in finished state that needs to include sourced materials made in USA as well. Assembled in USA is one version of a qualified USA product. It requires finish assembly that undergoes as "substantive transformation" and usually should require skilled work and tools or machinery to perform. This was created back when finish assembly would be done in the US due to a more skilled workforce. Now-days it's more often (though not by everyone) used as a loophole as it's less regulated by the FTC, is harder to regulate, and IF you're ever "caught" it's not so much a punishment as a "hey, actually this is wrong, don't do that". People often think brands only do this for marketing reasons but there's a list of benefits to skating the line. - HTS codes. You can often bring a tool or product in as parts and pay a lower tariff %, or avoid the current 25% tacked most but not all Chinese products. - Patents. Sometimes the source country (if they care about these things) has a patent on a product and can't be made there. - Tax incentives. Counties and states in the US provide tax breaks to companies that employ a skilled workforce or produce US products. You can have a 90% workforce warehousing, shipping, logistics but 10% assembling tools and sometimes this still qualifies.
@emmettturner94528 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannelIt’s a bit like Brazil repackaging Japanese electronics, SOMETIMES in a Brazilian-made plastic shell, just to skirt import restrictions. When NAFTA happened all of North America switched to Made in Mexico.
@ROADIEZ8248 ай бұрын
Ford is known for this as well... A certain SUV is made in Mexico & Germany. But assembled in the good ol USA! Keeps the tariffs down, profit up, & quality below the belt! UAW finally had enough & went for the throat w\last contract negotiations. But with the EV fiasco the workers are probably looking at becoming more & more a couch potato 😢
@timplett18 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel "Made in USA" is definitely a lot looser than you're describing here as well. I previously worked for a Canadian company that made pipe for oil and gas wells. We purchased steel coils from Canadian steel mills, had them slit by a Canadian subsidiary of our company, then sent them to a pipe mill we built just over the border, where the steel slit coils were rolled into pipe. The pipe was then shipped back to the plant I worked at in Canada, where we heat treated the pipe, performed extensive testing on it, threaded the ends for assembly, then shipped it out the door as "Made in USA". Canadian raw materials, bulk of processing done in Canada, but apparently the fact that it became a pipe in the USA was substantial enough for the entire end product to be marked as made in USA. And this wasn't a fraudulent claim on "our" part either, this was signed off on by the US government for tariff and duties.
@ksavage6818 ай бұрын
Just assume everything is made in China, because it likely is.
@pkt12138 ай бұрын
Can you swap the 2236 anvil assembly on to the 2235? Or any of your other impacts. I am curious if there's a way to quantify any power loss from the new setup, which I do like.
@Ohio-Patriot8 ай бұрын
I freaking love this channel!
@anzov1n8 ай бұрын
Enjoy seeing versatility innovations like the splined swappable anvil but it seems like it can be tricky to get right. More successful but still a bit reminiscent of the Bosch freak hammer, which was, in its own right, an interesting idea but never seemed to work phenomenally well.
@ZetaN78 ай бұрын
I got the exact one for my job. I have dubbed it. The PURPLE NURPLE!
@mooreryu8 ай бұрын
Named my rex Barney. Got it on sale and I am not disappointed!
@kirchbeer23248 ай бұрын
I kind of like that "feature" on the IR. You can keep the gun on high for removal and then when you switch to forward its automatically in low for install. Not sure if that is what they were going for, but could be handy
@Shawnxsather8 ай бұрын
5:47 “and there’s no way to know this without a skidmore or dyno like ours” Of course there is. Like watching a great channel like TTC. Awesome work boys
@13mmwrench8 ай бұрын
The swapable anvils might be worth a try and if the whole setup is as tough as the old guns it will still hammer away in 15 years. Unlike most cordless guns
@AntonioClaudioMichael4 ай бұрын
Weird how the extended 3/4 in anvil is making more power on the dyno testing 9:00 @Torque Test Channel
@larrym81908 ай бұрын
I was looking forward to this review, I planned on getting one. Not so much anymore.
@hhidd2 ай бұрын
That purple matco impact is so pretty, the thor looks nice too. i want more purple and/or matte black tools.
@justauser8 ай бұрын
Its sad that these expensive and brand new air impacts cant surpass even Dewalt. I think people nowadays get more and more excited about electric and air is for filling up tires
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
The DeWALT made that torque in forward. Not sure what you guys need 1,000 ft-lbs in forward for
@justauser8 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I need ALL the torque all the time 😏
@firstielasty11628 ай бұрын
Most cordless tools will be in the garbage in 5 yrs, or getting weak. My ir231 from '89 is as good as ever, and used a lot. I finally got another, the Astro Thor, because of the high power. Great deal, I expect it to be around for a long time, also. I think of cordless as almost disposable. Not quite, but the batteries just WILL die.
@slingin_tires8 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Ever had an axle freeze solid to hub splines? It's not super common but it happens. Using an axle pusher or whatever it's called, you can need all the torque you can get. My 900 has done very well for me
@Mountain-Man-30008 ай бұрын
I love the idea of exchangeable anvils. Will save a load of space in the toolbox.
@Swainj8 ай бұрын
Why did you change air fittings for the two different guns? What brand/ model did you use on them?
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
Air fittings? We've used Milton V on every air tool since the start. As for couplers, we used one of the Italian universal couplers we often have since channel start on the IR as we've been having fitment issues on the red Milton 5 in 1. So we've since ordered the all steel milton 5-in1 couplers hopefully they will last longer. We got the viewer's Matco later during shooting so it has that. Both coupler types have a CFM well in excess of the tool, but we still own the IR so would be happy to show it with the same coupler if people like.
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
The pinned post was updated with a link, FYI
@brandonpeebles58077 ай бұрын
Think for the settings it’s a feature for not over torquing fasteners, especially for lug nuts. Full power on reverse to take off but little power tightening. Also big fan!
@colterb8 ай бұрын
So I had a matco 2779, and I loved it. I ended up selling it when I bought the 3779 with very high hopes..... after two weeks of being in denial about it sucking, I returned it and purchased another 2779. Another guy in my shop did the same thing.....
@DadDaGoat1235 ай бұрын
Why didn’t you like it?
@colterb5 ай бұрын
@DadDaGoat123 I put the 2779 and the 3779 head to head on equally torqued bolts. The new 3779 took nearly twice the time remove it as the 2779. I recently ordered another 2779 as a back up, because I know it won't let me down.
@kylestothers240Ай бұрын
my theory with the IR backwards thing is that you want full torque in reverse to break something loose and when you put it in forward to install a fastener, you might not want all that torque. so have it be high power in reverse and low power in forward.
@hbracerx8 ай бұрын
This video reminded me that I haven't touched my air impacts in years now. The interchangeable anvils are cool but not cool enough to go back to air. I hope they stand the test of time and perhaps find their way to other tools.
@SomeGuysGarage8 ай бұрын
I almost picked one of these up when it got released to finally upgrade my 2135 which I've always loved....in light of this testing, I'm going with a solid meh.
@gavinjones86328 ай бұрын
Got mine in purple as well i love it
@TechnicallyRy8 ай бұрын
Just checking up from the ball joint press video from about 2 years ago, since I haven't seen anything on snap on for their BJP1 kit I was wondering how it compares to kits from astro and such. Great video with the high speed footage for the attachement details!
@yamboy6668 ай бұрын
Ive been using the astro thor v2 since you guys announced it, pretty happy with it overall. My only complaint so far is just the forward/reverse, I wish it was more like an IR. Sometimes I hit it on accident, might be a me issue though lol
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
The IR style fwd rev switch can't be beat in ease of use. Maybe cordless but that's it
@evanvandevelde98916 күн бұрын
I have this matco gun and I love it, use it every day, glad someone finally agrees with me lol all my shop buddies like their IRs
@Drundel8 ай бұрын
Unrelated to this video, but an idea for a new video, show with parts on how you upgraded some of those older air guns with new fins, ported, motors, etc.
@NoahIngle-y1v8 ай бұрын
i’m a plumber in fayetteville nc, i actually have done some drain work for the plant in southern pines, they do a lot of their building right here in nc
@electroluxlad8 ай бұрын
I only know Ingersoll rand for the club car side of things grew up around fixing golf carts. So I’m interested in the air tools now
@slingin_tires8 ай бұрын
The Rex has proven very strong for me; however I've still had to break out my DCF961 several times. But I can't complain, they're about the best of both worlds! 💯 Air for speed, cordless for max torque
@AntonioClaudioMichael4 ай бұрын
Wow that Ingersoll Rand 2236 speed 1 setting is high and speed 3 setting is low that is strange 4:48 @Torque Test Channel
@AntonioClaudioMichael4 ай бұрын
Impressed the purple matc9 passing the dewalt wow almost 900 ft pounds yikes 13:00 @Torque Test Channel
@dancearoundtheworld53608 ай бұрын
i wonder how VEVORs 1000ftlbs model compares it was first g.u.n and it likes forward
@gregpickett88163 ай бұрын
I have the 3779 Matco in purple. It is an absolute tank of a gun, and I couldn't be more satisfied with it. Use it daily and it has yet to be defeated.
@allanb32228 ай бұрын
Couldn't click fast enough! Everybody here at the shop bought the T-Rex impact, as soon as it came out. Good to see it can put out some great numbers.
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
Thing is a savage yet feels like a puppy dog
@ryansaunders6618 ай бұрын
Wondering if there’s a way you can get a hold of some master craft tools for the channel to test, I’m sure many of my fellow Canadians would love to see how their power/hand tools compare!
@Theonixco8 ай бұрын
Seems that if they had a reliable way to 'lock in' the splined attachment to keep it from bouncing around at the attachment point, it would probably negate some of that loss. But I imagine that maybe a fair more difficult to keep it reliable and from breaking a the torque levels were seeing now.
@mishkaulitkin94768 ай бұрын
Hi TTC! As far as I remember, "IR" was designing and engineering their composite impact guns to give maximum torque after about 20-30 seconds of work with anvil being stationary (extremely high torque required scenario). At least mine was and still is like that. Please try cranking it a little longer. Thanks.
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
IR's own testing practices developed with SIOUX tools & Skidmore Wilhelm that standardized this sort of thing doesn't go beyond 10 seconds.
@zephyr11828 ай бұрын
I haven’t been able to find anyone testing the skil 12v impact wrench in any way, so you think you guys could try that at some point? The mid torque and 3/8 20v would be nice too if you could get to it. Keep it up with the great videos!
@zephyr11828 ай бұрын
Also maybe the ratchet, I have a somewhat unrealistic hope that they might release some more variety in the automotive field if you guys test their stuff.
@TrackstarBR8 ай бұрын
Looks like I’ll just buy an old ir impact. The 2235 just seems better. Either the old 2235 or I’ll go with matco or aircat. Also can you test the matco raptor?
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
The 2235 is awesome
@junkyota8 ай бұрын
Ive been wondering about that IR for a while, went how i figured. Make a video testing impact gun mufflers and their effect on performance!
@dancingwind5643Ай бұрын
The new ir 2236 has its own sockets. Wonder how different the torque output is when using its proprietary sockets
@justinv30808 ай бұрын
Maybe some thicker grease could help tighten the gap between the splines and transfer more torque?
@KRich4088 ай бұрын
Battery powered tools have their place, pros convenience, weight, air tools are almost indestructible compared to Battery powered, I've dropped thrown air impacts they never die you can even lower a car lift on them and do no damage at all, a battery impact will get crushed. A air compressor and a little oil maintenance the air tool is like a roach it will survive a nuclear event.
@mydogsnameisbob8 ай бұрын
I love that they give you a ball mark repair tool to insert the anvil.
@jakehetzel81773 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a comparison of the IR 231c and all the rebadges/knockoffs of it!
@bighorn91198 ай бұрын
Matco and Ingersoll Rand for the professionals
@samuelgraber692125 күн бұрын
Can you test the Ingersoll rand DSX2 with the DSX2 sockets that IR makes for it?
@leokarasinski42178 ай бұрын
Isn't the q series the quiet gun? As in muffled down inside? That makes sense. Do they make that gun in a not q series? I'd imagine it would do better
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
Had the same feeling but this looks to be it
@leokarasinski42178 ай бұрын
@TorqueTestChannel well that kind of stinks.. I'm on the second anvil of my 2235 ti that's been force fed 140 psi shop air its whole life 8 years or so going strong... but its starting to leak in a few odd places so I was hoping the new one would be at least as good.... the anvil setup is pretty slick... maybe they'll make a non q one at some point
@xXBurntBaconXx2 ай бұрын
I wonder if the Matco internals will fit inside other impact guns, like the Old 2235TiMAX.
@todayonthebench7 ай бұрын
Saw the thumbnail and thought that IR decided to make an impact that forgoes the whole concept of sockets and instead just fits onto the nut by itself. Would be interesting, all though inconvenient to have one impact for each nut size needed, but if torque is all one cares about that would be an interesting take. (I have no clue if that would actually be an improvement or not.) The idea of using a spline seems interesting as well. Perhaps they start selling sockets with a spine later on, who knows.
@angelo651165128 ай бұрын
Try doing some more air tool testing with 1/2 hose
@AntonioClaudioMichael4 ай бұрын
That Ingersoll Rand 2236 Is weird why install the anvil yourself oh that is neet you can put different size anvils and a Extended anvil kinda cool 1:09 @Torque Test Channel
@Fremlin8 ай бұрын
What about line volume? Try a 3/4” hose and quick disco’s
@racinglightning018 ай бұрын
As badazz as that Matco is, the Thor is just such a beast for the money.. I just don't see 3× the value coming from the Matco.
@SteampunkDream8 ай бұрын
I really want to see you do the kobalt 1/2 and 3/8 in air impacts. I have had my half inch that is rated for 750 ft lb for 6 years I use it everyday at work and has outlasted both my Matco 1/2 impacts. Also you can use matco parts in them as well.My 3/8 has a matco anvil in it.
@DarkkLestat8 ай бұрын
Now the one thing I don't see on the IR 2236 is a grease point. Are these ones not able to be greased?
@torquemada67818 ай бұрын
more torque because of longer extension, maybe you twist the steel and this acts like an amplifier.
@ironcross4208 ай бұрын
The new IR gun with the reverse selector with a "Double Check" detent does the position of the dial of power affect that?
@angeldelvax72198 ай бұрын
The IR IMHO might benefit from a slight change in exchangeable anvil design. If the splines were slightly wedge shaped, and the "click" system was more akin to a bayonet or chuck fastener, it would likely fit more snugly, and lose less energy. But that's just from personal experience with spline systems, I'm by no means an expert.
@rudydaberry122Ай бұрын
What’s better in terms of power? Thor 1896 or ingersoll Rand 2145qimax
@charlieward76068 ай бұрын
they missed the mark on that spline thing, you could put that on a short impact and have stubby socket set that goes straight into the spline, expensive sure but imagine the stubbiness xD
@TorqueTestChannel8 ай бұрын
I agree, that would be awesome
@johndeerekid1678 ай бұрын
I would be shocked if IR isn't going to release splined sockets for this tool. Missed opportunity. What was even the point?
@alainorozco80328 ай бұрын
I have the Thor II and it’s been great. I also got the new Matco stubby, which they claim has 1200 ft lbs. Could you guys test the new Matco stubby MT3765PP?
@carterthiessen26648 ай бұрын
My 2235 at 165 psi sure does the job. Dont think ill be upgrading any time soon. In real world use ive found it outperforms my Milwaukee 2767. Im sure at 90 psi the Milwaukee would win, but lets be honest. Most shops don't regulate their air to 90.
@Carelock8 ай бұрын
I have the Rex, it has been an absolute beast in our shop.
@DaveKootchie8 ай бұрын
So they added a not needed gimmick, less performance, and a higher price? The shareholders will be thrilled! Corporate greed in a nut shell.
@AtomSquirrel8 ай бұрын
Someone in our shop just bought that purple Matco. It's way better than last gen. I know someone who has last gen and it putts out on lugnuts that my Octane can remove with ease. You give an octane a 12AH battery, it delivers
@ianthompson28028 ай бұрын
That might be a few gens behind or something is wrong with it. My previous gen matco could rip off semitruck lugnuts like butter
@AtomSquirrel8 ай бұрын
@@ianthompson2802maybe it was a few behind. He just bought it new like 5 months ago though. And it's not the same style as the one shown here
@PhillyFixed8 ай бұрын
"I want that purple stuff" - Dave Chappelle
@Twaincampbell-n5h5 ай бұрын
What is the dewalt your using in the tests please and thanks