Great review. Never seen anyone else go into this kind of detail to show what exactly goes into the reel.
@michaelloucks44486 ай бұрын
Hey JP thanks for the great video I really like that reel. Shimano hear I come. I'm one of your subscribers and God bless you and your family.
@pfpublius6 ай бұрын
I've got the OG Vanford in c3000 & 4000 size. Love em both. I use the 4k for flounder fishing & the 3k for speckled trout on a GLF rod. They started my love affair with Shimano. Now i have several Stradics, a Nasci, Spheros...and they're all great.
@willperryman45596 ай бұрын
JP, you always breakdown and explain every product you preview and review and I have always appreciated that…❤ Shimano4Life
@StrellzicАй бұрын
Great video. Most websites I am looking at have the Vanford FA cheaper than the Vanford?
@Colem946 ай бұрын
JP we need more videos man, miss your fishing videos learn so much! I just keep rewatching breaking boundaries episodes right now
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Working on it. Lots on the plate and trying to create content for YT is on my list of to-dos
@devonduffy0096 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to pick one up after this in depth video JP! Let’s get out and fish the kawarthas !!
@shakeandbaked15 ай бұрын
I always used the nasci reels and they are great but I picked up a vanford last year and wow what a difference. Totally getting the new model to go with my new dropshot rod.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors5 ай бұрын
That will be a great application for it!
@BruceGerhard-ec1uz5 ай бұрын
Nice I live in Nth Qld Australia 🇦🇺. I fish 5 to 7 days a week on the great barrier reef. And I love my little vanford. But my 4000 to 20000 Stella's are the main reels that get used. Love your video man cheers
@JPDeRoseOutdoors5 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@GregClaud19 күн бұрын
Hey JP! For targeting trout, flounder, and redfish in the sounds of the outer banks NC, how well would the vanford hold up over time against 20-35" redfish? Would you recommend a stradic instead or would the vanford do the job well.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors19 күн бұрын
Vanford would be fine but Stradic is definitely tougher in my opinion. For the minor weigh difference I would go Stradic
@anthonywisdom921428 күн бұрын
Hey JB, glad I found your channel! Loving the content. I primarily do trout and some bass around Little Rock, AR and between Nashville. And then I will go fishing(mainly for flounder) on the coast of Mississippi within the barrier islands. Would you recommend new vanford or stradic 3000?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors28 күн бұрын
Because of the trout I would go Vanford. Both have the same features with the exception of the MGL and Ci4+ body on the Vanford. Lighter
@tag_766 ай бұрын
Shimano "Made Vanford Great Again"
@phil24706 ай бұрын
Great video as always JP. I do like the feel of these reels paired with a Zodias rod. It is a great combo and hard to beat.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Looks great too!
@Sam-mu5xh5 ай бұрын
Would you prefer over a loomis gcx or glx?
@Sam-mu5xh5 ай бұрын
Would you prefer that over a loomis gcx or lcx?
@phil24705 ай бұрын
@@Sam-mu5xh I do not have a G Loomis GCX. I went with the Zodias purely out of how it looked along with the Vanford and found I really liked the rod for how it works and how it looks. G Loomis, I couldn't comment on, but I wouldn't be opposed to any G Loomis rods. Thanks for asking.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors5 ай бұрын
@@Sam-mu5xh no comparison. GLX all day every day
@billton126 ай бұрын
Hey JP. I’m looking at upgrading from a Nascii 1000 to the Vanford 2000 FA for my ultralight stream wading rig. You think the 2000 would pair/balance well with my current TFO trout/panfish 6’ rod? Thanks for the in-depth videos!
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
It will be lighter than the Nasci 1000 so it will have no issue balancing out nicely! Will make a great pairing.
@DeliciousBass015 ай бұрын
I have a 6’6 TFO UL. I have an Ultegra 1000 on it. Great step up from the Nasci but cheaper than Vanford
@kikodougies6 ай бұрын
Get the 2024 Twinpower & 2024 Certate. Those 2 are all you'll ever need. If on a lower budget, then Stradic FM & Daiwa Fuego.
@magnavica42836 ай бұрын
Agree
@logicalrationalfishing74816 ай бұрын
Fuego isn't near Stradic level. I feel like Stradics are the Curados of spinning reels.
@TeppanGod6 ай бұрын
nah vanquish blows it out
@timechild12616 ай бұрын
Wronggggg
@billyd57886 ай бұрын
Fuego’s are ok for a little while. But what you really want in comparison to the stradics/vanford is the Ballistic. I prefer the ballistic because of the still easy retrieve. Shimanos retrieves have gotten too tight.
@Slickdragonslayer716 ай бұрын
Sounds good I’ll send it back Thank you
@billyd57886 ай бұрын
@JP, did they fix the tightness of the retrieves yet? I haven’t liked any reels since the last black and red ci4+, because of that easy retrieve they had. It seems like since they’ve went to the different gearing it’s made the retrieves way too tight and burns up your wrist and forearm when making a lot of casts and retrieves. I’ve had to switch to Daiwa ballistic because they still have the easy retrieves. But I’d like to start getting some Shimanos again if they ever fix that issue.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Infinity Drive really lightens the turning in the reels.
@davidrauschenbach68716 ай бұрын
Did Shimano decide to not update and then discontinue the Chronarch MGL? Nice review on the Vanford
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Haven’t heard anything about Chronarch. Not sure if it has been placed aside to be honest. But with the Curado 150 MGL I wouldn’t even look at a Chronarch as the new Curado is a monster
@tims_always_fishing71176 ай бұрын
The chronarch is my favorite out of my arsenal, even more than my scorpion dc.
@Toe_Knee_696 ай бұрын
Seems like the Stradic, curado, SLX and Vanford can get an update every year but the 2016 Chronarch hasn’t been touched.
@kylemayer84866 ай бұрын
It works.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
It’s every 4 years actually and no, Chronarch isn’t on the radar yet
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
It’s actually every 4 years and unfortunately Chronarch finds itself awkwardly in between Curado and Bantam
@joshualabelle81093 ай бұрын
Hello, I am a new viewer and wanted to know if i should get the new vanford or the old one, while it may seem obvious, I’ve heard the changed a part on the new one and im afraid it may affect as far as longevity goes. I’m just wondering if u heard anything about that? And if u think it’s better to get the newer or older model ( I do Ultra Light Trout Fishing) this will be my first big reel purchase so I want it to last a long time thanks
@JPDeRoseOutdoors3 ай бұрын
Everything is an upgrade on the new Vanford that was changed but both are great reels. I don’t think you can make a mistake either way as I still love my old Vanford but really love the new one! 😂
@DanielBoone3376 ай бұрын
It's kind of crazy that most companies can't figure out how to make a good spinning reel and Shimano has basically figured out how to make 2 different lines of spinning reels and they're all freakin awesome for the price... If they figured out how to make the current Vanford better I can't wait to get my hands on one. Great video brother just recently subbed and been watching some of your older videos keepem coming man!!!
@marceloamador920246 ай бұрын
You need to try the daiwa LT lineup.
@benchapman56396 ай бұрын
When is the new version of the Vanford going to be available ?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Should be shipping to shops starting in August.
@benchapman56396 ай бұрын
Thanks JP
@bohonginikanchannel6 ай бұрын
Saya menggunakan reel shimano vanvord 2500 ... Mantap banget performa nya ... Sangat ringan 🎣
@nickwienk78256 ай бұрын
Hi. Kind of struggleling to chose which reel would fit for me. I want to use a spinning reel for freshwater offshore jigging with jigheads from 0.2/0.7 oz (10/21 gram) In your video you state that you would rather use the stradic fm for this kind of work, correct?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
If fishing straight Fluoro the Vanford would get the nod. For PowerPro to Fluoro leader situations I prefer the Stradic. It’s just over an ounce and a half weight difference so really not that big of a deal and their internals and tech are identical so for a more robust offering Stradic wins
@bentleylewis5586 ай бұрын
JP any word on a updated Compre Walleye spinning rod ?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Not that I have seen
@bentleylewis5586 ай бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Thanks JP.
@nashguy28146 ай бұрын
I would like the Stradic FM in the 2000HG size for some fun smallies/walleye fishing..lol but see it's not available here in Canada , just Australia 😞
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Yeah, each Shimano office by region has to do a market analysis to see what models are most requested. I would sooner see them terminate the 1000 and bring in the 2000 as well
@nashguy28146 ай бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Yes absolutely , bin enjoying your vids for some time now thought I would send a sub your way , Well let's hope we get that Stradic FM in the 2000 size , myself I would take it over the Vanford , thanks for all the info.
@csabapanczel65006 ай бұрын
Hey JP! I am planning to upgrade to this reel from my Ultegra FC, however I still couldn't decide between this new Vanford and Stradic FM. What are your thoughts? - btw, are you planning to do a comparison between those two? Thanks a lot in advance, great videos!
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Definitely planing a comparison video! should be done by next week but in a nutshell the two reels are twins internally and spec wise with the exception of overall weight, frame material and rotor material. If you want a lighter reel with faster start up and stop then go Vandford, if you are fishing a lot of braid to fluoro, not so finesse techniques, Stradic will be a great choice. For some, the looks of the Vanford is the deciding factor but spec'd out, they are twins
@csabapanczel65006 ай бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors thanks for the quick response. I am from Hungary, in our rivers there are asps, pikes and perch, I would use the reel for these kind of fish, (catfish is a different level and technique) - so honestly the Ultegra does a great job but I have decided to do an upgrade. First I was thinking on Sustain, but this new Vanford/Stradic line made me excited. Anyway, I think both reels would be a great upgrade from an Ultegra. Thanks for the help again! ✌🏻Looking forward to see the next videos! Regards, Csaba
@devonlewis50815 ай бұрын
@@csabapanczel6500 can i ask how that ultegra has been? it is right in my budget
@JustinBurns-q8j6 ай бұрын
New Vanford should be a nice reel. The 2000 size has larger diameter spool than 1000 size. 43mm v 40mm. In regards to the duracross drag washer it is not carbon-felt hybrid, it is felt that has been constructed in such a way that the fibres are knitted together to give more durability, in theory the washer should not come apart as easily as the traditional felt.
@Twangtown76 ай бұрын
Good stuff JP!
@eastonpittman15436 ай бұрын
Are you kidding me i just bought my first ever 1st generation of the vanford at bass pro last weekend if i would have known i would have waited for the new one
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
You still got a great reel!
@RazPerignon6 ай бұрын
Lolz
@suavelifestyle90946 ай бұрын
When is this in store
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Should be shipping in August
@theicemanfrost6 ай бұрын
Where can I purchase the 2024 one?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Should be shipping to stores by the end of August depending on your location/country
@Slickdragonslayer716 ай бұрын
Never would buy a vanford again. Had three two 2500 and a 1000. Just recently the neck broke on a hook set on about a 6 lb snakehead. Just bought the new stradic fm. Hopefully it will hold up to them beautiful fish!!!
@torment63696 ай бұрын
Are you power fishing with the vanford? I've always considered that reel to be a finesse reel only. The stradic will be way better in durability when it comes to horsing or power fishing.
@Slickdragonslayer716 ай бұрын
@@torment6369 yea most definitely won’t use it on a 6 lb fish!!! Lol
@torment63696 ай бұрын
@@Slickdragonslayer71 The stradic or the vanford? I would not for the vanford unless you're fishing deep water and plan on tiring it out. I would not use a vanford in thick cover trying to haul fish out, cuz thats how you break stuff. I've used my stradic fl since the day of release on king salmon and never had an issue. One thing I've notice with people (this may not be you) but they get confused with the vanford vs stradic. A lot of people tend to use either reels for the wrong application at times which was either stradic for finesse or vanford for power fishing just because of the reel looks.
@timechild12616 ай бұрын
Sounds like a defective reel. You should get a new free reel. Send it back to Shimano in SC, they will take care of you.
@timechild12616 ай бұрын
Plus you should be using a 3000 vanford reel for snakehead. You're using to light of a reel. But it shouldn't snap. That's a defect reel from the factory.
@ronmb816 ай бұрын
5:19 the C2000 spool is not the same size of the 1000. The C2000 is slightly larger in diameter.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Typically they make the arbour smaller to accommodate more line capacity. Otherwise, the reels are twins however I have been know to make the odd mistake!
@Shutuoandahoot4 ай бұрын
Is the 2500 the size of a 2000?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors4 ай бұрын
No, the 2000 is the same frame as the 1000 pretty much. The 2500 and C3000 share the same frame
@613BASS_N6 ай бұрын
Shared to 613BASS'N 😎
@kylemayer84866 ай бұрын
I hated the new drag on the vanford and sustain fj I bought. I loved all the ci4 reels, but I'll buy daiwa until it gets smooth again.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
You might want to check out the new Vanford, Stradic, Twin Power or Stella as they all share the new Duracross drag washers which are the smoother ones o have ever used. The standard Cross Carbon can be sticky as they are designed for hard running fish and longevity. These are completely new
@bihordz72536 ай бұрын
stella sw when?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
I would imagine in a year or two? But I haven’t heard anything about it
@kamadowoah45846 ай бұрын
Should be next year.
@CuteKidMusic6 ай бұрын
No 1000 size?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
No but the 2000 is the same footprint with a bit more line capacity.
@Slickdragonslayer716 ай бұрын
Could you get me a new one I still have it?
@bcm18926 ай бұрын
Nice
@auggyboy2846 ай бұрын
JP, I love having my dessert first! What’s the main course🙌🏼
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
There’s a few treats!
@Lobo-tommy106 ай бұрын
Fordvan? Wait, what? 😅
@Slickdragonslayer716 ай бұрын
No response from shimano!!!!
@vang20166 ай бұрын
Stradic is the one to get. That Vanford is a ripoff Shimano had to make. The Tatula is lighter and smoother than the Vanford
@JPDeRoseOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Vanford is a rip off of what? It’s a Ci4 Stradic. Pretty sure it’s okay for a company to make a light weight version of its own reel. 😆
@suavelifestyle90946 ай бұрын
Vanford so much nicer then stradic
@devonduffy0096 ай бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoorsI have 4 of the original vanfords and absolutely love them for the price point you can’t go wrong at all!