When are manufacturers going to realise no one wants their climate controls buried in touchscreens? Big chunky aluminum knobs, please. Much simpler and safer to use.
@growingup4487 Жыл бұрын
focus groups of gen z's say otherwise
@robertknight4672 Жыл бұрын
That's one of the many reasons I bought a 2023 Subaru Forester. has the touch screen climate control hadn't quite trickled-down to that model yet. I have a feeling next year the forest will be a new generation and have this awful screen.
@ZeGermanHam Жыл бұрын
I agree, and that's one of the reasons why I bought a new '23 Crosstrek in January before the '24 Crosstrek hit dealer lots five months later. The '23 still has physical knobs and buttons for all HVAC functions. In the '24, you have to wait for the infotainment to boot up before you can change fan speed, vent selection, etc. It's a bad way to do things.
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
@@robertknight4672same! Just recently got my forester wilderness
@DavyHoward Жыл бұрын
@@ZeGermanHam😅
@johnnyappleseed9568 Жыл бұрын
Wrx didn’t need its own body style, this looks way better & they would have saved money on development
@growingup4487 Жыл бұрын
same chassis platform, just different styling
@raymondhachmishvili2483 Жыл бұрын
the WRX looks miles better
@tortuga71609 ай бұрын
@@raymondhachmishvili2483 Do you smell burning toast?
@27Zangle Жыл бұрын
I remember 8.1 seconds to 60 being rather quick back in the '80s and '90s. Even the cars looked more dramatic doing so back in the day. Now though, 8.1 looks so painfully slow.
@KeithSchwerin11 ай бұрын
Even in the late 90's that was slow unless you had a crappy 4spd slush box. A manual Escort in the late 90's was pushing 130HP and still did 7.4-7.6.
@DroneStrike17763 ай бұрын
My 2000 (1999-2000 only) Civic Si did 7.1 and it was all theater with the 8000 rpm redline. My 1988 Mazda RX7 GXL did it in 7.7 seconds. Cars now are pretty boring unless you pay big money. Everything is so muted because of these non car enthusiast focus groups. My Mazda3 awd hatchback does it in 7.5 according to MW, and 7.2 Car and Driver, pretty slow, but fast enough. It is so quiet that I had to put in a K&N for some induction noise. They made a good chassis, but paired it with eco tires that can't grip, and one of heaviest 18x7 wheels fitted to a modern car at 31lbs each, killing it's performance. They could've gave it lighter wheels and a tad more power with the 13:1 CR engine, but the focus groups are allergic to fun. Car companies need to bring back the slow fun cars.
@msmarshall854 Жыл бұрын
IMPORTANT NOTE: The IMPREZA is the last sedan/hatchback to have good all around visibility. All other cars have garbage-visibility nowadays.
@zergilli9719 Жыл бұрын
People don't realize how important this is. Subaru designs for visibility..
@MikeYurbasovich Жыл бұрын
You are incorrect.
@ftr911drvr Жыл бұрын
It's so odd the Impreza is hatchback only and the WRX is sedan only
@lfsracer79 Жыл бұрын
4:30 The reason for the long braking distance is the tires, not the brakes.
@growingup4487 Жыл бұрын
You think the average consumer knows that?
@Kiss__Kiss Жыл бұрын
@@growingup4487 Pure laziness, and the desire to have manufacturers/Governments tell us the little details? Is what's killing the FUN out of our vehicles.
@tedunguent156 Жыл бұрын
@@growingup4487 YOU are the average consumer. So, yes.
@parmesanforpresident41562 ай бұрын
It makes sense because the tires that come on the car are probably going to be replaced with an identical set later on. It makes no sense for them to tell us "The braking takes 127 feet, except all the times it stops shorter and all the times it stops longer due to the tire choice." It makes the most sense to test on the factory tires.
@ZeGermanHam Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the previous gen Crosstrek with the same 182hp 2.5L engine is quicker to 60mph, has a quicker 1/4mi ET, and stops from 60-0mph roughly 20ft shorter than this Impreza RS.
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess it was due to tires and lower drive ratio.
@ZeGermanHam Жыл бұрын
@@BaldKiwi117 That's a good observation, but I wouldn't think that the Falken ZIEX ZE001 A/S tires that came on the 2023 Crosstrek Limited would stop better than what comes on the '24 Impreza RS. The '23 Crosstrek Limited that MotorWeek tested stopped from 60mph in 110ft, and did 0-60mph in the mid-7s. Same engine in both cars. They do have different transmission "gearing", so maybe that explains the acceleration differences, but not braking differences.
@The_R-n-I_Guy Жыл бұрын
Probably weighs more due to government safety standards and other unnecessary technology that isn't needed or wanted by most true car people
@moejr1974 Жыл бұрын
The fact that my 2021 Crosstrek sport clocked faster than this car really shocks me.
@FrozenDonut13 Жыл бұрын
What the weight of this compared to the previous gen Crosstrek? Was the 0-60 time you're comparing it too was on the Manual or CVT transmission?
@Sklounst_Actual Жыл бұрын
3:12 OMG that base infotainment system hahaha
@rhythm_is_life Жыл бұрын
Amazing how low-res it looks even without zooming in on the screens
@TimJoseph08031990 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the manual transmission was eliminated, because it would return poor fuel economy. Yes, CVT improves fuel economy, but not everyone wants a CVT. Basically if you want a Subaru with a manual transmission, the BRZ or the WRX are your only options.
@LLG47 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was because they wanted to put eyesight in everything, and did not want to design it for manual. Same reason there is no more manual crosstrek even though it sold at like 15% with a manual.
@Wrang15 Жыл бұрын
And it's only the bottom trim of the WRX.
@SeanRosairo Жыл бұрын
@@LLG47 now they have eyesight for the manual wrx and brz.
@SkaBob Жыл бұрын
182HP isn't much of a gain, a 1999 2.5RS Impreza did 0-60 in 7.1 seconds, this one is slower with 8.1. This car really needs a turbo and the RS badge doesn't mean anything. They should dump the CVT and goto a standard 6-8 speed automatic, they last much longer and give a better driving experience. They do offer a 6 speed auto in the BRZ, everything else has the CVT.
@SINE3828 ай бұрын
Honestly what I’d rather want from this rs is a detuned version of the 2.4l in the brz even a naturally aspirated 4cyl with 200hp and the 6sp auto from the brz would be a fun alternative that doesn’t take away from the wrx but rather compliments it by being a totally different power delivery
@mitchellkalina8191 Жыл бұрын
I think it's hilarious that the new CVT's have paddle shifters, completely undoing the whole purpose of the CVT.
@ZeGermanHam Жыл бұрын
Most people don't use them, including myself. However, they can be useful when you want to put it into manual mode and hold a "gear" when either going up or down a steep grade, or when using X-Mode to get through deep mud or snow. So they only get used rarely, but are nice to have and they don't get in the way the rest of the time.
@Jeff_S...9 ай бұрын
I think it's hilarious they want $25-30K for a basic import compact hatchback. Every auto manufacturer is going to go out of business and electric isn't going to save them. Progress!
@cgreenfield6655 Жыл бұрын
Dear Subaru, please stop with the CVT across your lineup and make this car have a manual option
@Kiss__Kiss Жыл бұрын
Especially since the RS of yesteryear had the manual option(Not to mention the rear LSD).
@JibWangson Жыл бұрын
Dear US consumers, you gave up driving manual cars, so we killed it.
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
So they can sell half a dozen? I love manual cars but they just don't sell enough to keep production
@cgreenfield6655 Жыл бұрын
@@BaldKiwi117 they'll sell quite a few actually....like 120. 😂😂😂
@RetroKingOG Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the majority no longer wants manual transmissions. As much as you may want one, Subaru only manages to sell 20% of their normal yearly sales compared to 75 to 80% automatics. They are actually losing money on manuals, because everyone wants a more fuel efficient focused Subaru.
@KeithSchwerin Жыл бұрын
If that 2.5 had like 200-220HP and a manual 6spd I'd very likely have looked at one for a great daily. Instead, it's just a 2013 Altima with a hatch and AWD.
@fikes73 Жыл бұрын
A true RS would have the BRZ motor and manual transmission. Dropped the ball. This version should be the sport
@JoshiJosho-mf8oi Жыл бұрын
Too bad it's cvt only, it'd be a lot more spunky with a 6 speed.
@josephpanozzo4815 Жыл бұрын
I looked at one a couple of weeks ago. No spare tire in the ‘24 model while the leftover’23 model had a spare tire.
@qmto Жыл бұрын
I wrote this car off my list the moment he said: no more manual, and a CVT with simulated gears. No. Thank. You.
@The_R-n-I_Guy Жыл бұрын
I hate touchscreens, sensors, cameras and the thousand computer modules that control every aspect of modern vehicles. Instead of buying new cars, I'm going back to the 60's to 80's cars. Better looking, easier to work on, cheaper to maintain and just all around more fun
@1997nick Жыл бұрын
So why are you watching a video review of s Subaru then?
@colejoseph5454 Жыл бұрын
Sadly not even close to worthy of that RS badge. Put the BRZ 2.4 in it and Manual then you're talking. Its too bad because its so much better looking than the WRX
@speedfiend925 Жыл бұрын
Only Subaru could make it's less sporty version of their car look more restrained and hence visually appealing that it's sportier WRX model. 😅
@ericbritton9346 Жыл бұрын
He lost me on the CVT, disappointing.
@user-iz3gv5vo6b Жыл бұрын
I don't see much improvement in Subaru's cars. It seems that they are only further developing their SUVs and letting their cars die out like Ford has done. Perhaps just like Ford, they'll just keep one model of car (probably the WRX).
@FrozenDonut13 Жыл бұрын
What ever happened to Ford bringing back the Fusion as a station wagon?
@faheemabbas3965 Жыл бұрын
@@FrozenDonut13probably for non-North-American markets… But other than that I don’t know…
@tomjanowski8584 Жыл бұрын
Is it really continuously variable if if has programmed shift points? And if it has programmed shift points, why not use a regular AT that everyone likes better? Way back in 1989/`1990, I test drove the Subaru Justy with what I think was the first CVT in the US. I liked it. It was no where near as slow to respond as some regular ATs in really small cars.
@PS-ro7oy Жыл бұрын
the programmed shift points are for when you use the flappy paddles, otherwise in drive, it behaves like normal.
@sportsMike87 Жыл бұрын
Bland styling. I know they aren’t trying to sleek looking but seems like they put zero effort into their exterior designs
@roberthoyt7921 Жыл бұрын
Subaru could merge both the Impreza hatch and WRX sedan into a single performance-oriented sport compact model (likely to take the Impreza or WRX names) with the VW Golf GTI/R, Toyota Corolla GR, Honda Civic Si/Type R, Hyundai Elantra N, Audi RS3, and Mercedes-AMG CLA 45 S as the new Subaru model's potential targets.
@MikeYurbasovich Жыл бұрын
Subaru is made with love. It is not going to try and compete with an RS3, it's built to satisfy the rainbow crowd and granola crunching marijuana smokers.
@roberthoyt7921 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeYurbasovich We'll see
@Detah_ Жыл бұрын
Really a let down especially with the 2.5 RS being botched
@jaydibernardo4320 Жыл бұрын
Yet another vehicle ruined by a CVT. Thanks to Mazda for sticking with 'real' automatic transmissions!
@agamemnon8163 Жыл бұрын
Cvt only 🤦
@vampyrelycan99 Жыл бұрын
Well it looks like the camera used for this filming had some lens dirt or even sensor dirt which cannot be corrected during post production......
@stegomon Жыл бұрын
Sorry. But you lost me at CVT only
@gigi9467 Жыл бұрын
Hard to buy this over a civic to be honest
@Kiss__Kiss Жыл бұрын
If you live where inclement weather happens, or tend to go off the beaten path? I'd trade the sportiness/speed for practicality. But as is, the lack of power, and CVT kill it for most of us.
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
Really just depends on if you want awd or not.
@mjkarger89 Жыл бұрын
@@Kiss__Kiss If you're concerned with inclement weather or going off the beaten path, you'd be better served with the Crosstrek. Otherwise, the Civic is the best option.
@austinfrazier7325 Жыл бұрын
No dealer markups on Subbie
@Kiss__Kiss Жыл бұрын
@@mjkarger89 Not necessarily, as the crosstrek is only offered with a CVT(As per my previous reply). I myself am not concerned with going off the beaten path(I have my Lexus SUV for that). That was for other drivers considering this "New" RS. As well as people mentioning buying the civic over this.
@LearnAboutFlow Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but for that money I'd rather get the most more luxurious Mazda 3 Grand Touring hatch WITH a manual. Yes, you lose out on AWD, but living with a CVT is not in my game plan.
@robgindc1 Жыл бұрын
With every measure of care taken & maintenance performed, Subie will still be running long after your boushie 3 dies. Sorry, truth hurts. 🤕🤣
@BucksMom218 Жыл бұрын
We don’t buy subies for luxury 🐾🐾🥾🥾😎
@kgthegreatone943 Жыл бұрын
You can still get a Mazda 3 with a manual?
@carwrtr1 Жыл бұрын
My money’s on the Subaru in this case. Impreza may not be as luxurious, but has the promise of reliability..
@philberto78 Жыл бұрын
I drive a 2007 Impreza and honestly I'd probably buy a Mazda over this new car too.
@austinfrazier7325 Жыл бұрын
If it only had a manual
@ShafinRehman Жыл бұрын
Getting rid of the CVT transmission would actually be the biggest step to being "more fun", or as according to Subaru.
@faheemabbas3965 Жыл бұрын
I have a suspicion that the reason they keep using CVTs is because they may have a supplier contract or something. We may never know though. An actual transmission probably costs more to make than a rubber band transmission. I hate the future of cars. Nothing fun anymore. Now it’s completely all a chore. We need to start advocating for good public transport and walkability…
@unclenoidentity186 Жыл бұрын
How hard would it be to manual swap one of these?
@tedunguent156 Жыл бұрын
What's the point? Your money would be better spent elsewhere.
@arlowelee Жыл бұрын
Pretty hard
@mollari2261 Жыл бұрын
All show, no go. A Subaru without a turbo is like non-alcoholic beer.
@A1B3R7I Жыл бұрын
I waited to get the 2.5 in the Crosstrek before I bought one I'm very happy with the acceleration compared to my old Impreza so glad I waited to get the 2.5 model and I did also drive a 2.0 Crosstrek before I decided what to buy. I agree the RS badge was a bad mistake but every car manufacturer is doing the same thing look at the Mustang
@AR-wh2vp Жыл бұрын
I am buying a 2024 Forester with buttons and a CD player . I enjoy a simple safe car.
@backnu Жыл бұрын
They completely neutered this car !
@Dennisg26 Жыл бұрын
They really did
@jeretso Жыл бұрын
The 3 tone seats are beautiful :)
@RedNekLvr22 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but if I'm going to deal with a CVT, I'll just stick with my 2023 Nissan Versa SR at $21K. Packed with great features for the money and cheap enough to be able to get a 3-year loan.
@growingup4487 Жыл бұрын
The reliability is what you're paying for, my rouge sport kicked the bucket at 120k
@RedNekLvr22 Жыл бұрын
@@growingup4487 Given a drive around 2,500-3,500 miles a year, that'll give me 10 years or so, 7 of those with no car payment.
@JibWangson Жыл бұрын
Nissan LOL. They are the reason why CVT have a poor reputation.
@robertarmstrong905 Жыл бұрын
Ok
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
Lmao not all cvts are the same. Nissan probably has the worst cvt of all
@gergnotsloh8 ай бұрын
Wish reviewers would look at the base models more than these souped up trim versions.
@hereigoagain5050 Жыл бұрын
RS for Really Slow :) My son loves his 2018 Impreza. Saved about $2K compared to equivalent Crosstrek.
@Blissfulkitty-Seattle Жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't know they redesigned this car. It looks like a refresh.
@FrozenDonut13 Жыл бұрын
Seems kinda slow (After all, it's a performance trim) but seems really well organized and practical throughout the cabin. But would rather have the physical buttons for climate control under the touchscreen so its less distracting when driving.
@BobSeevers6 ай бұрын
Wow John, how many years bro?
@incheon Жыл бұрын
You lost me at cvt sorry.
@tedunguent156 Жыл бұрын
I was on the edge of my seat until I heard "CVT only". No manual for the RS? Sorry. That's a HARD PASS.
@thetechlibrarian Жыл бұрын
I think it’s interesting the fuel economy is basically the same as a NA Mazda cx5
@arca9e295 Жыл бұрын
Subaru would it kill you to just make an 8 speed automatic?
@MeliorIlle Жыл бұрын
I miss the wagon Impreza/Legacy. Not having a limited trim is silly too.
@johnmiller49739 ай бұрын
When Motorweek started 8.1 seconds to 60 was quick. In 2024 its considered lethargic. My how times have changed over 40 years
@msmarshall854 Жыл бұрын
0-60 in 8.1 seconds... what other cars are in that range ?? Is the 2007 Corolla also 0-60 in 8 ? ? ?
@falcon64z8 Жыл бұрын
Why couldnt the new WRX look like that....
@502Chevy Жыл бұрын
Agree. The WRX is a mess.
@williamb.158210 ай бұрын
Looks like the track test filming took place during the Canadian wildfires
@MrSponge1985 Жыл бұрын
To bad it doesn’t have the manual
@bruschmidt9943 Жыл бұрын
MPH 33 Highway, 29 Combined? I get that in my new Caddy CT5-V with Twin Turbo V6, 360hp!
@Joe_Montfort Жыл бұрын
No, you don't.
@westhavenor9513 Жыл бұрын
Premium fuel
@grriceman782 Жыл бұрын
This one is going to be a home run for Subaru
@KenanTurkiye Жыл бұрын
All I see is an offspring from a matrimony between Kia Ceed station wagon and Ford Focus.
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
@@KenanTurkiyewhich one of those offers subaru awd?
@KenanTurkiye Жыл бұрын
Good thing this Subaru has an awd for it's self, to fend of been bland and generic.@@BaldKiwi117
@Shishizurui Жыл бұрын
I see alot of comments about ppl being like boo hoo the manual is gone. 3 years ago I bought a corolla IM 2017 6 speed. believe me its manual for the sake of being manual.... I'd love to just set my corolla on fire get out of my car payment for this.---- assuming it drives better than my 2008 impreza 2.5i if not i'd just restore that car.
@jonb75976 ай бұрын
You only get this for good smooth drive and fuel efficiency
@stevenweiss2148 Жыл бұрын
CVT IS THE DEALBREAKER FOR ME
@ronnieb1635 Жыл бұрын
I like the car but man those 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers are straight out of Motorweek retro reviews.
@luckyyou7749 ай бұрын
Hatchback WRX is coming😮
@joestuff8 Жыл бұрын
How does Subaru manage to design a new car that looks 10 years dated..
@2H2521 Жыл бұрын
@joestuff8 They seem to excel at doing that. 😂
@robertarmstrong905 Жыл бұрын
Basic? This is the RS.
@henryovalles1163 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but those power numbers belong in the mid 90s not 2024 😢
@ryanlak1234Ай бұрын
Dear Subaru- bring back the sedan version.
@frecklefingers3 ай бұрын
0-60 in 8.1 seconds is fine.
@chrisa.8175 Жыл бұрын
Cvt i will never buy!! Love subrau but stop using Cvt
@ekop17788 ай бұрын
I RENTED THIS 2 MONTHS AGO FROM MY SUBIE DEALER THAT DAM TOUCHSCREEN IS IN MY FACE I CANT SEE THE ROAD
@streamingvideo6654 Жыл бұрын
This car is huge! compared to the GC Impreza.
@GetTheFOutOfMyWay Жыл бұрын
I really did sleep on Manuals too long (have two 20+ yr old Manual cars)... Does ANYONE make a non-infuriating modern car where you don't have to murder your soul and/or commit finacial suicide in the process... ?
@Stigz34 Жыл бұрын
Slow af
@moejr1974 Жыл бұрын
It's slower than my 2021 Crosstrek Sport.
@mrb401 Жыл бұрын
WRX fans - this is 1 step closer to another another rex hatch. Time will tell.
@faheemabbas3965 Жыл бұрын
STi didn’t sadly…
@marshalmagooo3899 Жыл бұрын
Having flashback nightmares of the 2.5 EJ headgasket fiasco
@hopefloats7573 Жыл бұрын
Should have renamed it the "UnImprezza"! They made an "All New" car that does nothing better!
@rallyengr Жыл бұрын
So they either offer the nice looking Impreza hatchback (and only the hatchback) but only with a CVT, or the WRX but you get stuck with that chunky looking sedan. Nice play Subaru 😑 Clearly combining practicality and good looks with performance just doesn't make sense
@babajinde Жыл бұрын
The few times I've seen it I think it looks like a Honda Civic...
@digitaldoc100 Жыл бұрын
Another screwed up product from Subaru that falls short. Why make it sporty but such a lackluster powertrain?
@stevetager69 Жыл бұрын
CVT 💩
@JoseFigueroa-h5z Жыл бұрын
" Just put the 228 hp engine of the BRZ "
@randallcunninghamjr.9270 Жыл бұрын
With a CVT transmission you're just asking for trouble
@westhavenor9513 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the manufacturer. Subaru's CVT's are fine. I've had several with no problem at all.
@kasio22B Жыл бұрын
I forseen a WRX wagon in this form soon. That's how usually Subura does it's biz...
@davidbaron6647 Жыл бұрын
nice
@Kishan2213 Жыл бұрын
dump the CVT and it would sell like hotcakes
@Aki_Lesbrinco Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that if they dump the CVT they probably stop selling like hotcakes. Non-car people (AKA 95% of the consumers) don't know the difference between a CVT and a traditional auto. All they see is auto transmission and MPGs. The CVT is auto and for the most part helps get 1 or so MPGs more. So, CVTs help manufacturers sell more cars. We as enthusiasts might not like it but most of the car buying public does.
@juschill7 Жыл бұрын
Slow and disappointing..
@Sonic_1000 Жыл бұрын
Man that looks awful. Whew.
@eddieg6436 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure Judy, and her girlfriend Hillary will love it.
@disan9135 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@kgthegreatone943 Жыл бұрын
I hope someone tums one into a WRX STI
@mediocreman2 Жыл бұрын
Generic looking, CVT, questionable reliability based on previous Subarus. But the base price is reasonable and it has separate buttons for climate control. So it's not all bad
@Dennisg26 Жыл бұрын
They made it junk now
@chrisa.81756 ай бұрын
Stop cvt!!!!!
@icantdecideahandle6 ай бұрын
nah good cvt exists lmao
@TJC450 Жыл бұрын
🥱
@WHO9119 Жыл бұрын
2 min into this video and I've damn near fell a sleep because this car is so boring next
@theodoregibbons4615 Жыл бұрын
How dare they slap on an RS badge on this vehicle. This car is a dog.
@mujjuman Жыл бұрын
not a fan anymore
@St23-sd9qr Жыл бұрын
@mujjuman Why not anymore?
@sleeksilver Жыл бұрын
Subaru is completely incapable of designing an attractive vehicle. As far as the interior goes, aside from the touch screen this thing looks like it is about a decade old. Unless you absolutely have to have all wheel drive there is no reason to buy this over a Mazda 3, Civic, or Corolla.