2024 Tacoma Trailhunter on 35s - Does It RUB?

[@kurtburkhardt5862]

Trailhunter Tacoma looks great! Will be getting a 2026 4Runner Trailhunter. Waiting until the 2nd year. Have a 2014 4Runner Trail. It has an OME lift 33" Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T's and typical mods. We are not in a huge hurry. Still, not happy with all the delays...

[@joshdudeguy2830]

Just got my Bronze Oxide TH! Not gonna mod it for a while because of cost, but I hope my future looks similar to yours!

[@IndependenceOverland]

35s =14-15mpg 😟

[@joshdudeguy2830]

@@IndependenceOverland Oh wow, more of an impact than I had anticipated. Thanks for the heads up! Maybe I'll stick to 33s I was thinking of getting.

[@HeyBabyPod]

Stllllll waiting for my Trailhunter allocation and living vicariously through yours! Keep it up!

[@IndependenceOverland]

I had a lot going on so I couldn't edit, but about to release a few more videos in the next week.

[@baileylittle5170]

Looking forward to seeing the Arkansas trip video! I ran the Ozark Overland Adventure Trail earlier this year. Absolutely loved it!

[@Alex_from_Texas]

I can imagine the ride is so much more comfortable and the tech must be nice too. Just to have OnX native to the OEM screen is nice-love y’all’s journey thus far!

[@IndependenceOverland]

Yeah having that screen is great for maps. I honestly thought it would be obnoxious for anything other than off-roading, but that screen size feels mandatory now that we have gotten used to it. You don't have to squint to read text or to try to find the next gas station.

[@toyotatrailtrash]

The truck looks sweet!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@IndependenceOverland]

Yeah, she’s a beaut!

[@classVTaco]

When truck f.exed and tires were in full droop it did not droop as much as I would want especially with the sway bar disconnected. There were a couple times you had a tire in the air and I was hopping to see more travel. Put some more armor on that thing and then come out to the Rubicon. I take my dclb 2nd gen on 35's

[@TacoRancher]

Possibly larger tires prevented full flex and he just needs a slight lift

[@Jay-me7gw]

The new Taco RTI with the swaybar disconnected is like a 530 while the LX600, LC250, and GX550 are all around 630. Not sure what the difference would be.

[@TacoRancher]

@@Jay-me7gw - shorter wheel base gets you higher RTI - cannot compare a pickup to an SUV - the fact the TH gets a 530 word 132” wheelbase is amazing

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@TacoRancher don’t they account for the wheelbase in the calculation? Otherwise why even have an RTI ramp?

[@TacoRancher]

@@Jay-me7gw I mean - I’m not sure I understand - no they don’t normalize for wheelbase if that’s what you’re asking. It’s just that a shorter wheelbase has an inherent advantage because the suspension does not need to flex as much to keep all four wheels on the ground-just from a physics perspective and mathematically. The Trailhunter outperforms the raptor, bison, etc. which are more apples to apples than a landcruiser or 4Runner with shorter wheelbases. A jeep wrangler and an FJ will outperform a Tacoma off-road just because of geometry.

[@GemMookherjea]

any suspension mods done to the Trailhunter? how much gear in lbs? how is rear squat with the rtt? good to go with factory coils? thanks in advance

[@IndependenceOverland]

No on mods as of the time of filming this. Not sure on weight. With my full sized spare, water, tent, rack I would guess I’m around 500lbs. Rear squats pretty bad, it was noticeable. Since this trip I threw some airlift coil airbags in to get me through the year. I had them laying around for my Fj cruiser and they fit, so 5psi of air pressure brought the height back up. Toyota definitely should have given the Trailhunter a stiffer spring.

[@jrams1024]

Good to see you back in Arkansas! Hopefully it wasn't too hot.

[@IndependenceOverland]

It was pretty warm for sure! Soooooo dry!

[@outofreception]

Tires only rub until they don't! LOL!!! Great video!

[@mattritscher1930]

How did you mount the Zarges cases on the bed rack? Did you notice any rattle?

[@IndependenceOverland]

A lot more information coming on the mounts and cases soon! They are mounted with The Mounting Company mounts. independence10 for 10% off 🫵😉

[@IndependenceOverland]

Oh and the only rattles were from locks I had on the mounts, otherwise, no sir!

[@mattritscher1930]

@@IndependenceOverland rad. They sound (or don’t sound) awesome!

[@Alex_from_Texas]

If you’re going to mount anything that doesn’t have a proprietary mount [think Roam mounts] then The Mounting Company is the way to go, no brainer. They have different sizes to accommodate your loads. Trust us, you’ll love them.

[@mattritscher1930]

@@Alex_from_Texas Awesome!

[@arinmirzayan3949]

One thing is 100% clear for me that if Toyota make body design some how that can fit larger tire like 35 or 37 easily on factory suspension without any modifications, would be the most reliable vehicles out there.

[@IndependenceOverland]

That’s what you are looking at in this video

[@srandyt2]

Does the turbo not disengage when you are in 4-Low?

[@IndependenceOverland]

No sir, but when you are just crawling along at a slow speed then it any building boost very often.

[@treadsandtails4402]

Just got my TH and found your channel. I have two Goldens that travel with me on all of my trips. My 24 TRD Pro has fold down seats which was their safe space. Did you remove your rear seats fir your pup? It was hard to see in the vid. I am curious....My plan is to remove the rear seating build a platform and bedding to give the boys space and comfort. This will also give the the option to molle the rear of the cab for additional storage etc. Thoughts before I start the design and build? Oh and I did purchase the IBEX bed rack because of your build vid. Great content. TY

[@IndependenceOverland]

Yes sir, check it out here! 2024 Tacoma Interior Mods + Goose Gear Seat Delete kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5zKn5KdoMlprdU

[@J.Young808]

What 24 TRD Pro do you have? I am guessing 4Runner.

[@joshr961]

I give it at least a few more years till I start seeing these go higher miles that I trust the new power train. I'm not opposed to turbos and I have a 3rd gen taco. However I want a minimum of the same reliability or better and just can't trust these yet. they look great though!

[@IndependenceOverland]

Yup, Id have done the same if it weren't for the channel.

[@clintbiesinger1243]

Great set up! I have a Tundra and wanted to ask you about your Alubox set up. How’d you mount those? I love that idea! Are they the 42s?

[@IndependenceOverland]

Literally about to film something on those. Look for the video in the next week!

[@TacoRancher]

Those tires a fucking sick

[@TinkerersAdventure]

This truck is dialed!

[@IndependenceOverland]

After this trip I stuffed some Airlift air bags into the rear coils. That will get me through until the big project this winter. 😎

[@cowshaveclaws]

are you going to post what wheels/tires/lift? I didnt hear in the entire video what you have.

[@IndependenceOverland]

Editing it right now

[@Killer65malibuGaming]

Did you PPF the entire truck or just Doors, Fenders , hood?

[@IndependenceOverland]

The entire cab, minus the roof.

[@4WDisLife]

first comment, nice taco! what size is the tire? 35x12.5? is adding pair of airbag in the bag doable for the 4th gen tacomas?

[@IndependenceOverland]

35x12.50 Firestone Destination MT2 Since this trip I did add some Airlift bags to inside the coils. I had them laying around for my Fj and they just so happened to fit. It will get me through until real springs come to the market.

[@brandonedwards4398]

@@IndependenceOverlandSo the great news is, the Trailhunter will fit 17” wheels ? :)

[@tjxpeditionoverland5506]

None of my aux connectors in the bags fit in that connector next to the windshield water. :(

[@IndependenceOverland]

Call them up and get it, they won’t charge you for it since it was mistakenly not included

[@tjxpeditionoverland5506]

@@IndependenceOverland Human error. I was looking at the smaller connector. The right one was hidden. :) I got the same Trailhunter like yours and have been watching your videos to mod mine. Thank you for all the great videos!

[@thelui447]

Truck looks badass!! Can't wait for more videos! I just got one in underground! Question, how is your MPG? I have 800 miles on mine and averaging 16 MPG and I drive it in Eco mod like a grandma! Fully stock!! Seems off?

[@gilbert8667]

I'm averaging 20 on the dot right now, but when I went on a road trip I was getting near 30. From what I hear it takes a minute for everything to calibrate including the fuel tank, but starting off mine was never that low. Are you running your truck stock right now? Bigger tires? Lift? etc......

[@keith9141]

Yes, it gets better as everything gets broken in more. I have the TRD sport.

[@thelui447]

@@gilbert8667 Gotcha! No fully stock besides window tint lol!

[@IndependenceOverland]

Just wait till you get 35s. I’m down to like 14 now 😢

[@theazhikeaholics]

We’re looking to eventually change out the wheels and tires on ours too. Good to know about the breaks! What specs are the wheels you choose? Do they have an offset?

[@IndependenceOverland]

17” +35mm offset. For a 35, specifically on the Trailhunter since it has the wider fender flares, it makes the tires sit perfectly under the fenders. I wanted my fenders to actually work and not throw rocks everywhere.

[@theazhikeaholics]

Awesome! Thank you! We’re thinking the same thing about the fenders. We just got ours last Thursday and are excited to build it out

[@overland_adventure_nz]

Instead of purchasing and fitting ARB’s old main emu suspension, why not get a custom wear spring pack built as I know there’s at least one US based spring manufacture that could do them for you to get the extra weight capacity without getting extra height. Looks interesting that you’ve now got your Alu-Cab fitted. Your dog looks younger today.

[@IndependenceOverland]

I meant it would be cool if Toyota included an upgraded spring as an option from OME. I’ll be getting new springs for the rear either way, but I need to wait until the real work begins on the back of the truck

[@overland_adventure_nz]

@@IndependenceOverland I totally understand as my land cruiser in New Zealand. I purchased one of the genuine Toyota bull bars but there was no upgraded springs available to counter the weight of the bull bar and winch assembly. All the aftermarket ones are Plus 2 inches or more when I do not need to lift a standard 70 series land cruiser

[@andrewanthony7093]

Thanks for the great content . Did you use a different offset rim to fit the 35s .. I’m wondering if 35” will fit on a stock Trail hunter rim . Thanks in advance. @independenceOverland

[@IndependenceOverland]

Yes sir, its a +35 offset

[@returnofthecmack2013]

What’s up with your air compressor not working?? Curious since I’m taking delivery of one of these soon and want to anticipate any possible maintenance hiccups with that. Thx 🙏 Also great to see that 17s clear the brakes just fine!! Are those a +25 or +35 offset on there?

[@IndependenceOverland]

Air compressor suddenly started inflated and deflating at the same time. Basically, a valve is stuck open. I’m about to take it in for the warranty work in about an hour. I’m sure they will just order a whole new unit which may take time. I went with a +35 to get the tire in as far as possible. It’s a perfect offset to make a 35 work with the fenders. I didn’t want any tire poking out, as these trucks are almost too wide now anyway, and I didn’t giant fenders on my truck that were no longer functional.

[@returnofthecmack2013]

@@IndependenceOverland oof I hope that’s an easy fix on your end/doesn’t take too long! I know parts availability has been slim for the 2024s for some repairs. Do you think it’s maybe from dirt getting in there and it getting stuck open? Copy that on the +35. I don’t want any poke either for the same reasons. These things are (I think) about the same size as my uncle’s old f150 crew cab from the 90s which is wild.

[@JaredDonVito-u3i]

what do you think about short bed vs long bed? I'm looking for a trailhunter... I do more overlanding then rock crawling. Just want an honest opinion because I'm coming from a '21 4Runner which are all the same length lol. ty ty.... and as always, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT VIDEOS!!!!!!!!

[@IndependenceOverland]

We considered it. The new wheelbase on the 4th Gen talked me out of it, and I still went back and fourth on that decision. Now that I have owned the 5ft model, the extra length of a 6ft would have made navigating the Arkansas trails a nightmare. These new trucks have a pretty bad turning radius. Compared to my Fj is feels like a school bus. I am doing something to gain more space out of the 5foot bed soon though, so for me I was able to justify it. Sorry I’m not much help.

[@deucebigs9860]

Once you go long bed you can't go back. I've got a third gen and would only get a long bed fourth. You can sleep in the back easily and if you decide to build it up you still have more room than a short bed, and it's not like navigating one is that much worse than a short bed. It's never stopped me on trails. I'm also more for overlanding than rock crawling.

[@Jareddonvito]

@independenceOverland I just got mine on Sunday night, in black with a short bed. You were right, I drove the LB and it would be way harder on a trail, not to mention parking lots. I love the SB, and I'm getting a trailer if anything huge needs to be transported. The whole purpose of this truck for me is off-roading, so it's got to do that well first and the SB is the best option for that.

[@TacoRancher]

I assume you took off the 3-bolt horn in the wheel well?

[@IndependenceOverland]

Yes sir

[@TacoRancher]

@@IndependenceOverland Thanks - I’ll see if I can get 285/70/18 without having to remove it

[@andrewanthony7093]

Thanks for the great content . Did you use a different offset rim to fit the 35s .. I’m wondering if 35” will fit on a stock Trail hunter rim . Thanks in advance. @independenceOverland

[@GrenadierOverlander]

How is the camera system when on these trails?

[@IndependenceOverland]

Pretty awesome, you can see everything you could want to see. I covered that more in other videos though so I didn’t feel the need to touch on it again here.

[@GrenadierOverlander]

@@IndependenceOverland Thank you Sir

[@TacoRancher]

What happened to the compressor ?

[@TacoRancher]

Just saw your post on Tacoma4G - will follow there - I’m on there as well

[@IndependenceOverland]

I am going to do a quick video on it and post this week.

[@squatchsaygo]

I like the 35s on the trail hunter, but does it overheat at highway speed? Like the show, thanks for the cool vid.

[@IndependenceOverland]

No overheating has been observed off road, or on the highway. I have been paying close attention. Its ticked up a single line a few times but nowhere near overheating.

[@squatchsaygo]

@@IndependenceOverland Well that's great to know, Thanks!

[@lucidsen]

Hey bud, Hope all is well. I also have a trailhunter in the build and have been following you quiet closely. Had a few questions if you have the time. The load capacity sucks compared to what they advertised. What rear springs are you looking at/suspension modification? I was also looking at replacing the rock sliders. They look pretty minimal. They're 82". Cbi offers them with kickouts, the ability to stand on them to get to your racks and are 87" long offering more protection. Thoughts? What ppf did u go with and price point should I look for? V/r Drew

[@TacoRancher]

I think the load capacity is grossly understated by toyota - take GVWR and subtract curb weight and you’re almost at 1500 even with all the stuff the TH comes with from the factory

[@IndependenceOverland]

Dobinsons now offers heavier duty springs. I will be going that route this winter after I add more weight to it.

[@lucidsen]

@@IndependenceOverland thanks for the heads up!...do you happen to have a link for them?...Im looking and don't see them.

[@IndependenceOverland]

@@lucidsen Try the part numbers Rear Coil Spring Specs: C59-869V (30mm - 1.25") Stock Load C59-817V (30mm - 1.25") 175-330lb Load C59-819V (30mm - 1.25") 440-660lb Load C59-821V (30mm - 1.25") 880-1210lb Load

[@lucidsen]

@IndependenceOverland so this is a newb question. Are those figures for constant load? Do those figures account for the trailhunter springs or just the OR model? What would ur recomendation be. Im gonna run a constant 270-300lbs in there. And then about 800 when camping.

[@newfoundoverland]

Just here to say RAD!

[@IndependenceOverland]

Thanks buddy!

[@explore_off_road]

Im at 3:05 and watching the part where you use the features. Doesn’t that make it boring? Not ACTUALLY driving it ... which i thought is why we get into such things. Otherwise we'd just go to a campground. Takes away the driver skill?

[@TacoRancher]

I think you could use it or not use it. And respectfully I do not think the high torque will harm the driveline

[@IndependenceOverland]

Yes and no. It’s not like your just staring at a screen the whole time, it’s just a 2d image so you still need to know what your doing. I still roll my window down and look at my tire as I roll through out of habit. As you go up still like we did this weekend, and can see your 3” from the edge of a cliff though it’s quite handy. And also, we had to go attempt to help someone in the dark and had to drive through some sketchy stuff, and the cameras even helped at night with the light bar on. I don’t feel like it took away from the experience at all. I learned to drive without cameras, and it’s just another tool in the tool box.

[@ryansearlybronco]

Already missing the FJ content

[@IndependenceOverland]

I did a lot of traveling in the Fj this year, I just need winter to come so I’m home to edit the footage

[@freedompanda9438]

2024 Tacoma? I’ve got cash to buy it off the lot. That’s not the issue, although it IS severely overpriced. I just don’t care. They’ve killed the Tacoma. I’d buy a ‘23 or older. Toyota can suck it.

[@IndependenceOverland]

Thanks for checking it out man!

[@mad-meh2719]

That's what they said when the second gen came out.

[@AdrianRodriguez-pg9nr]

Hahahah keep knocking it until you try it.

[@razz300zx]

What awful sounds this thing makes coming down the trail!

[@IndependenceOverland]

Sounds like a diesel, I don’t mind it at all.

[@razz300zx]

As a TH owner myself, I can attest to the diesel sound.. in person. But in this particular video, it sounds like a leaf blower mated with a smoothie blender.

[@TacoRancher]

I love how mine sounds. Like a diesel. The hate this truck gets is so comical. It’s an amazing truck.

[@eighty6films]

It sounds terrible Like a cheap tractor or Eastern European small diesel engine

[@IndependenceOverland]

I personally like that it sounds like a diesel.

[@eighty6films]

@@IndependenceOverland then you hear a 392 pass you & cry… (later you pass them on the side of the trail broken down)

[@IndependenceOverland]

@@eighty6films haha yeah a good V8 does sound good, but it gets annoying on long trips. Even my Fj and its little V6 with the TRD exhaust gets obnoxious on the 4+ hour drives. This Tacoma has nearly the same torque as the 392, and it sounds like a diesel. I am a diesel mechanic by trade, so maybe that's why I like the quiet tick of the engine. I know I am the minority in that.