What do you think of this new SxS for $19,999? 4 seater is $22,999
@markbooth765720 күн бұрын
How's the leg room compared to an x3....that thing is nice, curious what kinda power you could add to it
@woodenyasayso310120 күн бұрын
4 seater please
@Bajalander20 күн бұрын
You cant beat the price What do you think???
@Indianahillclimber20 күн бұрын
I'm impressed.
@ChupacabraOffroad20 күн бұрын
@@markbooth7657felt like more than an X3
@marvinevans878920 күн бұрын
I was watching other content on the CF Moto release wishing Nick from Chupacabra would comment when the notification for this video popped up so clicked on it immediately not knowing you got to attend. 👍👍 I am VERY impressed. But of course cautiously until I hear your report on the driving experience. I like the styling and especially the interior. And what a value: live valve Fox shocks with Eibach springs, a standard winch, rear radiators, suspension seats, a beautiful large display with CarPlay: double shear hardware, and the list goes on. I think of the value like this: you could buy both a 2 and a 4 seater Z 10 and still have$4k left over for accessories or the Pro R 4 seat for $47k. I know it’s not a Pro R but still very impressive. 👏🏻👏🏻😎
@jaredlyman107920 күн бұрын
I’m honestly blown away. I’ve got to have one. Superb ideas all around the machine, will see if they play out ok(rear radiator)
@LGHTSPD67520 күн бұрын
Plunging half shafts is probably the most underrated part of this vehicle. That is a big step as they were able to get additional suspension travel because of it. Regular half shafts fail due to the tricky slip and sudden grip (high torque loads) SxS drivetrains experience. I wonder how well the new half shafts will last with larger aftermarket tires? The motor doesn't have quite the same output as the competition, but I bet the motor and driveline mass/inertia is nearly same. Very cool review, good insights, and presentation.
@Carmine_Carter3920 күн бұрын
Absolutely blown away great value
@jimhurkman865720 күн бұрын
Light years ahead of Speed when it comes to both machines being built in China. Fit finish build quality. Great job RZR Nick.
@patd4u220 күн бұрын
I was camping up in Munds Park in Flagstaff Arizona this weekend with a friend. We drove down Schnebly Hill Road into Sedona where the temperature was around 95°. He has a windshield on his pro XP4 seat and he said he could not deal with the heat in the cab anymore and we had to turn around and go back to camp. I have a half windshield on my pro XP2 seat which helps a lot but still I was doing the broken arrow trail with my grandson and my legs were absolutely burning hot. Even with a insulated center console blanket and a insulated cup my water got hot really quick in the center cup holder. Having the radiator in the back is such a great idea.
@DigitalConfusion13 күн бұрын
Arizona here with a Can Am X3 and half windshield. Unless it is cold, no need to run a half windshield during the summer! Sedona is still too warm for that. If the half windshields do not easily come off, trash them and buy one that will. I love my half windshield, but in Arizona or Glamis, you need to really be smart.
@MrDchiznet20 күн бұрын
No cab heat is a big plus!!!!! Especially here in az
@ericspaulding662020 күн бұрын
This guy is a grind hard fan for sure! Premium 👌
@MrMorepower7120 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Cant wait to see some ride videos.
@theonlyone8320 күн бұрын
I think that CF moto is one of the best bang for your buck options. That interior blows away the maverick r. I wouldn't say CF moto is for the serious off roader but for someone who wants to hit some light to medium trails this is perfect.
@philturinsky2720 күн бұрын
We bought a cfmoto 650 four wheeler last year for my wife, we've had zero issues with it. And my wife doesn't baby it. I agree with you, we just puts around northern Michigan trails and have had allot of fun with it.
@theingobeck477220 күн бұрын
All I i hope is this presses Honda, Kawi, and Yamaha into deciding to compete in the higher-end segment. Having a Chinese competitor outclassing all of the legacy Japanese powersports manufacturers is a baffling state of affairs.
@ChupacabraOffroad20 күн бұрын
Good point!
@joshcaine420 күн бұрын
I'm really impressed, thank god they got rid of the rocket boosters off the sides
@japhethwar19 күн бұрын
Looks really good. Designers on point with this one. Somebody call Honda and send them this. Talon looks like its from another century at this point.
@markflexes18 күн бұрын
Well done and a comprehensive review, Nick. I look forward to a real world test ride review, but impressive on look and paper. How it does in our offroad world of rocks, sand/dunes and desert will be interesting to see.
@dizza2020ify20 күн бұрын
The displays are all waterproof I assume? I love this thing
@mixflip4 күн бұрын
I love it. The design looks on par with a Maverick X3. Now we just have to see how good the engine is? I was going to buy a brand new Polaris XP 1000 but I might make the switch to cfmoto if the reviews come back positive.
@robbovay832420 күн бұрын
Putting heat on food and drinks cooler . Pretty cool though
@mingomane120 күн бұрын
What’s more important you being cooler or your cooler being cooler?
@johnminnick404120 күн бұрын
Cf Moto stepping up the game
@russembree750417 күн бұрын
Jury is out but on the surface it looks good. The HP is without an intercooler, kind of like the Canned Ham DS. Add an intercooler, reflash the ECU, bigger turbo, the list goes on. Like the display and controls. The Fox shocks are certainly nice. Nick needs to ring it out and see how it does in the desert. Sand, we all know it will be under powered as you can never have enough there.
@betoborba332919 күн бұрын
I’m impressed!👏🏻
@glopez80720 күн бұрын
Nice!
@jasonhoward228520 күн бұрын
THE INTERIOR IS SICK.
@mosslager17 күн бұрын
I think they killed it. Really impressive car.
@Mr.WS620 күн бұрын
They need to lend me one or take them out to the crossbar park in Oklahoma to see if they survive like the canam out there. My old cfmoto zforce saw the shop after every crossbar ride while the canam guys kept going, saving time & money from the shop. If it survives crossbars, they are a beast. That will be the true test of these machines.
@1hasbeen53120 күн бұрын
Revolutionary rear mounted radiator... welcome to 2012 Wildcat.
@allmotorhash20 күн бұрын
No summer windishields tho
@toddcunningham241020 күн бұрын
Why not? Radiator detecting is on the sides in the rear. Adding a windshield should not affect getting air into the radiator at all.
@brentbeiler705120 күн бұрын
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@eezycatfish5695 күн бұрын
Lets see some more of that cf moto blue.
@philturinsky2720 күн бұрын
I want to know how they can sell this so cheap? I'm assuming using cheaper parts. But where do you draw the line to cut costs?
@tristanhipps60419 күн бұрын
No just making reasonable margins instead of ripping off the customer with greed
@pesticidal18 күн бұрын
The CarPlay feature is great, any future Android app coming? Also, turn signal kits?
@Owneddd120 күн бұрын
This is what I expected from speed. Any idea of potential hp out of that 3 cylinder.
@ChupacabraOffroad20 күн бұрын
That’s a great question and I hope it can push 200 reliably… time will tell
@generalpurpose93720 күн бұрын
143 horsepower official 🤙
@danieleaton998819 күн бұрын
It’s not intercooled, so that’s probably why it’s fairly low boost/lower hp.
@rcclassiccrawlers436817 күн бұрын
I like them, but are they slowly moving towards building cars or what? If I’m buying an off road vehicle, I want the mud to stay outside as much as possible. I have a 22’ Zforce HO 950 that’s been great w/o any issues whatsoever. Except I don’t like how narrow the fender flares are. They are almost pointless. And I see that hasn’t changed on these new ones either. Also, is it wired for signal lights? That would be a great improvement.
@kokrket20 күн бұрын
Might be worth it . Looks to be Very good design all around ..kinda bougie for the price. Is the B- pillar lower boxed gusset welded? Looked tacked welded 🤷🏿
@jabroni619920 күн бұрын
Looks good for the money. I think their main competition would be Segway. The Z10 has a 4 seat option which is something the Villain still lacks.
@ChupacabraOffroad19 күн бұрын
I think this lines up nicely with all sport SxS’s at $20k- with the X3 being the only other competitor with a turbo… excited to drive one soon and do a review
@jabroni619919 күн бұрын
@@ChupacabraOffroad I don’t disagree, except I don’t see many people cross shopping Can-Am and CFMoto. I wish more would to bring prices down from the stratosphere.
@CMorHiking20 күн бұрын
Are all the electronics in the interior waterproof?
@ChupacabraOffroad20 күн бұрын
Yes they are
@jimmace614820 күн бұрын
FYI 2012 wildcat put all that cooling in the back. 😊👍
@brentbeiler705120 күн бұрын
Who cares they were the worst!!
@allmotorhash20 күн бұрын
Patented plungi axles Is robby gonna be mad?
@johnf86918 күн бұрын
Wonder how long the rear differential will last on this model, my zforce 800 lasted 500 miles and bolt broke on pinion destroyed the differential
@oshaya7119 күн бұрын
is it possible to upgrade size of the wheels to 32" or 35"?
@ChupacabraOffroad19 күн бұрын
They said 32’s for sure
@frankangiulo508020 күн бұрын
everything tying back to the chases is very healthy I can promise you like very healthy
@cjcallen597420 күн бұрын
suprised they didnt intercool it and turn the power up some right out of the box
@martincerpa849922 сағат бұрын
When is it going to come out to the market
@ChupacabraOffroad18 сағат бұрын
@@martincerpa8499 they will ship to dealers in January I’m told
@MartinVictorAlva19 күн бұрын
143hp!! Wow.
@jonnteghtmeyer37506 күн бұрын
do you know what the low range gear ratio is? locker button locks both front and rear? if i am in 4low and then need to reverse seems like with have to reverse in high range based on how the shifter moves?
@markkzo6614 күн бұрын
no intercooler kit for turbocharger???
@leonrichard710519 күн бұрын
I've seen so many complaints and transmission issues for the 800 and 950 ZForce trails due to the lack of a proper hand brake. Like it's imperative that you park on a perfectly flat surface. I didn't see a handbrake or even a mention of it. Has that issue been resolved by other means?
@tristanhipps60418 күн бұрын
It’s a totally new transmission
@bigtex479017 күн бұрын
This thing is pretty sweet; especially for the price. I just can’t get over the fact it’s Chinese tho…
@nismomike318220 күн бұрын
Any plans for Android Auto? Any plans for an intercooler? (He said "this model wont have a charge cooler") Any plans for a wider version? Same bolt pattern as RZR? And of course, what is the biggest tire it will fit?
@danielstanfield777220 күн бұрын
Sounds like to me a wider version coming later hey
@ChupacabraOffroad19 күн бұрын
5x4.5 pattern, same as a Pro R, will fit 32’s at least, not sure on the other questions
@concernedcitizen937320 күн бұрын
Everything looks cool. I live in Kentucky and get my ride super muddy every time I go out. All the screens in the fantasy switches and everything like that will not hold up to a power washer over time. This is not a car. This machine is going to be a bag of problems within two years of ownership.
@KuschallRacing20 күн бұрын
flip-up-frontshield ? both versions with this price is exptional...and woerries the competition
@allmotorhash20 күн бұрын
Thing is polaris and BrP have been charging us way too much for live valve tech in the end the cars are plastic af and drop value dirt, you have to buy a 45k car and install 25k in aftermarket in order to sale it and get at least 35k back 2 years later
@ElJeFe55620 күн бұрын
I love how this guy keeps using the word "Designed", I think you mean "Borrowed the design"
@tayalyn0820 күн бұрын
Cf Moto definitely stepped it up. I think it’s bs they brought a new model shortly after they made a 4 seater. They aren’t the only ones that are guilty of it. I ordered my 21 Turbo S Dynamix and a year later the Pro R came out . And now the revamped Pro R came out after a short two year run . WTF how long before the consumer stops buying these machines when they keep changing the platform and adding a premium price.
@downonafarm17715 күн бұрын
So because of Apple CarPlay I cannot have this vehicle. I'm an Android user the car play would not work. I guess I won't upgrade. From the u Force 1000 XL
@ryanneenan847217 күн бұрын
Where are they speakers? Theres a volume button but i dont see speakers
@paulcrocker455317 күн бұрын
In the doors.
@jasonhoward228520 күн бұрын
CNC ALUMINUM SHIFTER!
@howarddavis874820 күн бұрын
First off, awesome awesome vehicle exceptional value at 20,000. The cons.. Can-Am and Polaris pioneered the side-by-sides we enjoy today.... those godfathers spent millions and millions of dollars on research and development to CREATE this sxs trend! . Rear radiator first done by wildcat then RS1 YXZ. then CF Moto copy the idea. Polaris utilized five lug unitized hub bearings. CF moto thought okay, that's good let's put that on our car. Push button start Can-Am came up with it.. CF Moto, oh that's good let's make it push button start. Polaris comes out with live valve shocks. Cf Moto, that's a good idea let's put that on our vehicle as well... Polaris Incorporated three different drive modes. CF Moto oh, like that, let's put that in as well. Polaris under 24 XP 1000, decides to go back with standard opening doors. CF Moto, oh we like that let's put that in our car. Polaris have always used lately dual sheard suspension components brackets. CF Moto oh, we like that, let's do that to ours as well.. both Polaris XP 1000 and speed utilize a A+ front pillar for added stru ctural strength. CF moto, oh we like that that's put that in our car.. Polaris have inertia seatbelts. CF Moto we like that we'll put that on our car as well. Hell Polaris and Can-Am pioneered CV tech. CF Moto that's cheap and effective let's adopt that on our car as well.. I and on and on and on... am sure you see a theme here. It is much easier and cheaper to build a car off the backs of the pioneers who initially built them than it is to build a new vehicle from scratch with nothing to compare it to... The Chinese labor force is extremely low they're able to make cars like this plus pay tariff taxes and still turn a profit at a $20,000 vehicle very interesting... However, because of this that I have explained they can produce a badass awesome vehicle that is good for the consumer point of view but definitely hinders the pioneers who spent millions and millions on research and development like Can-Am like Polaris...... The only fresh idea I see as far as engineering, is the slip yoke incorporated in the rear axles... If there is another truly new designed component, let us know chances are it's already been done by somebody else at this point!
@davidcarruth590620 күн бұрын
This is just the beginning for cfmoto, they make a lot of power sports ,35yr old company sxs is for us no market in China? I'm glad there taking on the big boys and listening to our needs in this sport.. I can by 2 for price of one pro r! Or mav r .. 😮
@pesticidal18 күн бұрын
So, others did this and that. CF Moto did all of them.
@markflexes18 күн бұрын
I see nothing wrong with copying good features from other manufacturers. They'd be crazy if they had not done that. They're not trying to reinvent the wheel, just improve it. Will see how all this cool shit plays out in our real off-road world. I feel they will claim some market share especially if it can perform in real world testing.
@philturinsky2720 күн бұрын
Did he say the front A arms are stamped steel? Wouldn't that make them hollow? Or are all a arms hollow lol?
@tristanhipps60419 күн бұрын
It’s two stamped parts that are welded together making them hollow. That’s industry standard much like round tubes
@brentbeiler705120 күн бұрын
Yeah I’m down. Beats Polaris’s twin 1000.
@danielstanfield777220 күн бұрын
Any plans for a wider model ?
@ChupacabraOffroad19 күн бұрын
Not sure but I wouldn’t bet against it
@nickclifford551314 күн бұрын
Here's what I'm saying see if models stepped up their game. So now guess what's gonna happen can't end and play us we're gonna do the same thing but ask more money. See if motto's prices are pretty good from what I'm seeing as long as the machine does what they say it's gonna do. There are pros and kinds. But at the end of the day CF moto is the best machine for the money in my eyes as long as this thing does what they say it's gonna do....
@bobbyratliff334920 күн бұрын
You said your 6’3 how is the room in the drivers seat
@ChupacabraOffroad19 күн бұрын
Very good, better than my old X3 for reference and I have long legs.
@brianpevehouse115020 күн бұрын
Why only 140 horsepower? If you're going to start from scratch and build a new side-by-side, why don't you go all out on horsepower?
@ChupacabraOffroad19 күн бұрын
Are there other SxS’s at $20k that have 140hp? Not that I’ve seen…. And I would bet this is a base platform that will have more power versions in the future… but with a turbo we all know the ability to obtain more is easier than a NA car
@GarSeeYaa20 күн бұрын
I dont think they asked the consumer what they wanted. They assumbed and we got a roof basket.
@tristanhipps60419 күн бұрын
It’s an accessory
@samuelwilliamsii82816 күн бұрын
It clear he's only worried about west coast
@DigitalConfusion13 күн бұрын
It's because the West Coast is the Best Coast. Nothing else is relevant.
@dough562620 күн бұрын
Soooo, they didn't have to put the fuel tank under the sear which is great, but why the hell did you keep the filler neck on the passenger side of the vehicle? Do these engineers not gas up there own daily drivers by themselves? move the damn filler neck the the same side as our trucks dammit.....
@tristanhipps60419 күн бұрын
The power steering unit does not allow the fuel tank to extend all the way to the drivers side.
@user-ln8fm9ww7h20 күн бұрын
Little low on horsepower for a 3 cylinder turbo
@johno881720 күн бұрын
But twice more than the twin.
@Ecoboost520 күн бұрын
No intercooler so the aftermarket should take care of that
@erinbowden457520 күн бұрын
@@Ecoboost5yep. More power too
@allmotorhash20 күн бұрын
Imagine a tuned 200 on E85 hp 4 seater under 25k to smash dunes 😮
@tristanhipps60420 күн бұрын
It’s cheaper then the talon, krx, rzr xp. Has more power than the base x3. I say the party is just getting started
@EipsteinMaxwell4 күн бұрын
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@cullens165able20 күн бұрын
Soo many people talk about price must not be looking at prices at dealers. These are same price as a rzr, can am krx etc. 20k get a 24 rzr pro xp sport 181 hp
@ChupacabraOffroad19 күн бұрын
Apples to apples- 2025 Pro XP is $23999 and doesn’t have live valve adjustable suspension, but does have more power…
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@sethsmith695620 күн бұрын
Old pic lol
@mikestowe613620 күн бұрын
yep will no longer be a cheap value for people with less money cause lets be real folks most people bought these because thier thousands less then polaris can am hond kawasaki now thier gonna cost just as much or more its funny how fast corprate greed to take long to catch up
@damonbehnke581720 күн бұрын
Looks like lawnmower engine
@sethsmith695620 күн бұрын
Lost me at “roof basket” 😂
@ChupacabraOffroad20 күн бұрын
Says the guy with the 2013 Maverick 😂
@BrianSmith-si4zd19 күн бұрын
Buy domestic
@tristanhipps60418 күн бұрын
Rzr and can am built in Mexico just like the z10 will be
@jimhanle297118 күн бұрын
It’s pretty nice for CF but there is no way I’m ever buying a Chinese Communist SxS .
@tristanhipps60418 күн бұрын
Designed in Minnesota and built in Mexico
@FlyinPurr20 күн бұрын
All of the legacy companies paved the way for CF Moto to become what they are today so they need to stop talking about all the crap that “they” developed themselves while it’s clear the styling was copied from the X3. On the flip side, CF Moto will now pave the way for the legacy companies to start doing some different things. Hopefully these machines won’t come to the point where a simple roll or fender bender is a fortune to fix. KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)
@tristanhipps60420 күн бұрын
No we designed it. It’s very very different than the x3 in almost every way. Yes it had 4 wheels, and is a utv but really its visually very different
@danielstanfield777220 күн бұрын
@tristanhipps604 man it looks sick , I'm impressed ...never even thought of owning a cfmoto sxs until now.
@judgehastheword906919 күн бұрын
It is junk. Not enough horsepower. Why the other side by side company use rocker switches they work. Knobs don't lastwhen your out on the dusty trails.I will keep with my 200 hp Can-Am X3 XDS Max Turbo R. It will blow that piece of $hit out of the water. Can-Am mite cost more but you pay for Quality an Performance !!!. And it looks like you have 29 inch tires on it. I am running 35x10x15. 18" ground clearance. You couldn't pay me to drive are own one of them. It won't last are hold up to the Ruff trails. Your Slip axles wont last another place that well brake.
@pesticidal18 күн бұрын
Lol
@philturinsky2720 күн бұрын
Smoking in the machine now will be dangerous lol. With that gas tank up front. I'm out
@ChupacabraOffroad19 күн бұрын
People smoke in 2024? Lol C’mon bro
@philturinsky2719 күн бұрын
@@ChupacabraOffroad lol I still do. I know I'm a bum. My wife says if I quit I can get whatever side by side I want next. So I'm currently going to quit lol
@philturinsky2719 күн бұрын
Just trying to figure out, if I want to get the 25 RZR XP 4 1k. Or completely switch brands. The only thing making me want to stay with Polaris is the ride command. I started out with a RZR 570 trail with nothing just used maps and a compass. 2019 I bought the ride command edition 4 seater xp41k. And I've have allot of issues with it. So Idk which way to go. I really like the can am maverick sport max. But still debating.
@tristanhipps60419 күн бұрын
It’s in the dash. The can am has the same location and would you rather sit on the fuel?
@philturinsky2719 күн бұрын
@@tristanhipps604 I'm really not being that serious lol