THE FROLI SLEEP SYSTEM !!! They are awesome and made for air-flow -- I would pick the Ekko as well
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thank you!! I just couldn't remember what it was called LOL!
@vincecarluccio50188 ай бұрын
FYI. The EKKO uses propane for hot water and furnace heating system. The Condor uses the hydronic heating system which uses gasoline. The only reason the Condor has a propane tank is for an outside propane connection such as the outside stove or gas fire pit, etc. So, don’t need 2 tanks as in the EKKO. I think this is a much better design. BTW, the outdoor kitchens are options on both rigs.
@JethroXP2 ай бұрын
They showed the Sprinter based EKKO, the outdoor kitchen is only an option on the Transit Based EKKO.
@ChopperChad8 ай бұрын
Froli springs is what’s under the mattress. You can buy them and they’re not very expensive. Easy upgrade to any rig. Also, the Sprinter Ekko is 2.5” wider and 18” longer so it is bigger. My limit is 24’ because a few places I like to go have a 24’ motorhome max length limitation. The Sprinter Ekko is a no go for me for that reason. Some things to also consider is the reports of 1200.00 Mercedes routine service bills, a lack luster dealer network, complicated and finicky diesel emissions systems and B05 diesel fuel limitations.
@Erica_Brenda8 ай бұрын
As for one or the other? I like the Ford one better but the quality isn't there so I would still just buy the van and build it myself. But I like watching your videos and getting ideas. In the end, I am going to get another Class C, not a van. Vans are just too small of a space and parking is not an issue for me. I think there is a lot more value in a Class C. and they aren't even close to as expensive as a van. Thank you for going to the trouble of making your videos. I know they are a lot of work and I do truly enjoy every one of them.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! We love hearing what others would do. Vans are small. So many pros and cons. We love the convenience of them but they are small and we both would love a little more room. Small Class C’s seem like the better option but in the end it does depend on each persons needs. Anyways, Can’t wait to hear what you end up getting!
@mikemanjo24588 ай бұрын
If money was not a factor, i would pick the Ekko as well.❤ Ford chasis!
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
We are fans of the Ford Chassis as well! Seems like maintenance would be cheaper too. But you are right if this is a definite "If money wasn't a factor" Situation for us as well! 😂
@JoshuaMartian-go3tm8 ай бұрын
@@Vancaskeys If money wasn't a factor for me, I'd go for the luxury 500k overland vehicles. Environment and nature be damned! 😅 J/k I couldn't justify 7 miles to the gallon even as a rich person. lol
@mikemanjo24588 ай бұрын
@@VancaskeysAbsolutely. If you had any kind of trouble on the road, a Ford dealer would absolutely be easier to find!❤
@donaldparry51578 ай бұрын
But the bathroom! 😔
@JoshuaMartian-go3tm8 ай бұрын
I think other than the Mercedes chassis, beds 4 inch longer, center ducted air, higher clearance, it's 8" longer giving more seats & (convertible) extra bed. and slightly bigger garage. 😉
@williamgildea83488 ай бұрын
When the Ekko first came out I wasn’t a fan. But now I would take the Ekko hands down.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
👏👏👏
@teridanielson29738 ай бұрын
Great to meet you at the show! The 4 season AWD EKKO with garage appeals to our adventure plans. Thanks for another awesome video!
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Hi Teri! So fun meeting you both! Really enjoyed getting to know you guys. When do you guys get to pick up your Ekko? We are so excited for you!
@MegaSolegirl8 ай бұрын
I agree with you on the Ekko, however the shower in the Condor is very smart. Enjoyed the fun review!
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Agree 💯 with you!
@13redwoodlaneusa78 ай бұрын
I like that the Ford offers four wheel drive. It can be a God send sometimes. You didn’t mention if the Ekko was a 4x4. The water capacity is a big deal for us as we tend to stay out in the boonies. Although I am a Ford man, you can’t go wrong with a Mercedes. I am blown away by the price. Great video, you guys did an awesome job. We almost went to that show too.
@lorih43928 ай бұрын
It also fits in to top drawer to make a countertop extention.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
No way?!? Very cool!
@bramdasu64318 ай бұрын
We like the Condor mostly because of the length. However both are pretty long for our purposes. Also, why 50 gallon water tanks and 4 gallon cassette toilet? I would have preferred they take up one of those dinky little storage spaces on the driver's side with a 20 gallon black tank. Overall thanks for the really cool reviews. Simply amazing
@cmtaylor531Ай бұрын
It would have been better if they just did a composting toilet and leave me that 50 fresh so I can boondock. Stop being afraid of the compost toilet. It’s better than cassette and black tank. Cassette is the absolute worst.
@robertjennings77748 ай бұрын
Love you both and I can't believe you would even consider a Thor after Mr. LEMON
@Erica_Brenda8 ай бұрын
I know I write a lot of smaller comments, but I do that for you. It helps with your algorithm in that more comments equals more popularity, equals more recommendations from the algorithm to others to see your videos. I also try to touch each of the URLs you put on these, in case you get some sort of kickback from those, as well. And besides, I found a few things I have added to my shopping list from these recommendations. :) so, win/win! hehehe
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Wow Erica! This is so sweet of you! You are a 💯 spot on! Thank you so much! 😊
@user-dr2js7bv2i8 ай бұрын
I heard that the air flow system under the mattress is to keep mold from growing on the mattress. Essential from what I've heard. Both are nice vehicles.
@markp.71657 ай бұрын
I like your down to earth approach with the RVs and the cost as well. Too many RV folks on KZbin act like money grows on trees and that just isn't how I roll. I always look for value which means usually not the cheapest item but also not the most expensive. Safe travels my friends!!
@anthonyb23348 ай бұрын
I have a 30’ Winnebago class A. Small for a class A but BIG compared to the EKKO. I was at Winnebago for service, did the tour, watched them building the EKKO and spoke to a number of EKKO owners. Very impressed with the EKKO. Except the price. For us, we prefer the bathroom of the EKKO and the Mercedes chassis.The ac in the bedroom is nice for quick cool back there but is also louder when trying to sleep. Prices are pretty crazy on these, or B+ in general. We seriously were considering downsizing to a B+ but our present lifestyle fits better in the A. If only we could afford both! Excellent video. Thank you
@svenhodaka91455 ай бұрын
We have a 23’ Winnebago Class A. (Model WCF23RC). Owned it for 18 yrs and still love it. A little TLC and maintenance each year and it is so comfortable and works so well. It fits in National Park campgrounds (
@kenp44648 ай бұрын
Well done. I think this twin rear bed floorplan is a fav for many. Leisure Travel also makes a similar model. Be cool to review all similar options. Yeah, the prices are 70k more than they should be.
@joecutro73188 ай бұрын
Thanks, Hillary and Bob! If I were to buy a B+, it would be the Ekko for sure. That bed system and ducted hvac. 👍🏼👍🏼 It just seemed more roomy overall. Not to mention the space saving fridge/shower combo! Quite the innovation. 🤔😉 Love the outtakes. 😅
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
We agree! Thanks Joe!
@thomasrichmond70178 ай бұрын
For LESS money you can get an Entegra Odyssey SE (Class C) on the E-450 chassis AND a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon to be your toad for hitting the trails and driving into the city. (Or be your backup in case the RV breaks down.) More of a pain to drive, but you get a whole lot more capability, flexibility and convenience for less money. Not to mention you get a Rubicon out of the deal to enjoy when you're not RVing! But then again, if you're going to tow something, you might as well just get a travel trailer like the Winnebago Hike 100 FLX or Micro Minnie FLX and save some serious money. I know, this is about Class B and B+ RVs, but given their cost it's certainly worth considering alternatives. Most people would be FAR better off financially staying at motels and Air BnBs. And there's something to be said for traveling "light."
@healeybob18 ай бұрын
You should add the Jayco Granite Ridge in this comparison as well.
@thevagabondonwheels491815 күн бұрын
It is effectively identical to the Entegra. Basically the same rig from the same company.
@AnthonyWilbanks-l5h8 ай бұрын
The board in the drawer is to place the induction on when using. To protect the counter top.😊
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Oh that makes total sense! Can’t believe we didn’t think of that. Thanks! 😊
@AnthonyWilbanks-l5h8 ай бұрын
It's the little things in life that turns me on..😊
@joanmcerlean71588 ай бұрын
Fantastic review. Been waiting for someone to do this comparison. Thank you.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thanks Joan!
@ThacMan8 ай бұрын
Your guys are great. Love your content. You should check out the AEONrv. It's a super insulated box on the transit chassis. 8.2 KWh BattleBorn batteries, all Victron controls, 700 watts of solar. Has a quiet heat pump mini split A/C mounted on the back.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thank you! We totally went to see one of these. We just have to find one 😃 It sounds like a great RV!
@ThacMan8 ай бұрын
Here's the latest AEONrv kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6q9i6qbgqh1bKcsi=3cpRX_cr5lCqrfWm@@Vancaskeys
@dianejimenez83278 ай бұрын
Hi Bob and Hillary 🤗 Ekko is for the Win 👍 its very nice ! Thanks for sharing .. great video you guys 😊🤗😁❤
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thank you 🤗
@kip55888 ай бұрын
We have been shopping for a full year to buy a new motorhome and looked at this one. Couple things we were concerned about is getting up in the middle of the night and falling down the steps in the dark. Our second concern we had was the windows are acrylic and after while they could end up with spider webbing scratches. The only thing I wasn't sure about is whether it has the new Mercedes 4 cylinder twin turbo with more horsepower and torque or the older 6 cylinder engine. We ended up ordering the new 2024 Tiffin Wayfarer RLW .Glad you're getting rid of Mr lemon
@TraderChick8 ай бұрын
I love the ekko! Bob working on those A+ camera angles hahaha, nice drone shots! I think the second one has cooler and nicer stuff overall, it’s a bummer the table is fixed and I have gottttttt to have a comfortable lounge space. I want a van w a recliner hahah I lovveeeee the cup holders in back. Hahahaha I love the blooper at the end. You should put a fun blooper at the end of each video to encourage people to watch to the end!
@jamesw31428 ай бұрын
We enjoy your videos and tours. Thank you for actually sitting in the Condor dinette. It’s hard to see the scale and size without a person there.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@richbowie768 ай бұрын
The ekko on the sprinter is larger than the ekko on the ford, i like the ford better ! GREAT VIDEO !
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@JoshuaMartian-go3tm8 ай бұрын
Yes, 8" longer overall, beds are 4" longer and box is a bit wider, I think. Although I prefer the Ford for drivability. Lower to the ground and faster pick up speed.
@jchristie078 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaMartian-go3tmit’s 18” longer then the Transit EKKO (23’ vs 24’6”)
@HelenSanford-ms7gm8 ай бұрын
Good review! Love the Elko. We have a Thor sanctuary on the Mercedes! Thor is not our favorite! We would love if you could give tank sizes fresh, grey etc..
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thanks! We did show the tank sizes…we put them on the RV drone shots…but you’d probably have to pause the video to read it…sorry!
@rvierra72357 ай бұрын
Hey Hillary!! Thank you for highlighting the price(s) of these RV's are completely crazy! Yes, in many parts of the Country, you can buy a house for what they are asking for these RV's. It would be very interesting to hear what the profit margin is on these RV's.
@martykong35928 ай бұрын
:) WELL DONE indeed! Tough call as both of them seem well designed and built. Just a little shy of Mercedes maintainence costs? THANKS for sharing and that was a HUGE RV show / place! ALL the BEST and Cheers! :)
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thanks Marty!!!
@MathersOnTheMap8 ай бұрын
Do you think you could put a car seat on either of those back seats? I feel like these RV's aren't really tailored for a family. I may be leaning towards a F550 / Dodge5500 DIY truck camper like a custom Hilt or something similar. I completely agree, why the need for a sink in the bathroom, I feel like it would never be used. Agreed the transit's bathroom more as well!
@johntinglin72808 ай бұрын
It is not hygienic to perform your ablutions in the kitchen sink, where foodstuff and dinnerware are handled. That is why a separate bathroom sink is desirable!
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Hi guys! I am not sure about the car seat option. I would hope so. We have reached out the Storyteller to see if we can tour the Hilt...fingers crossed they let us! It does look like a great option!
@MathersOnTheMap8 ай бұрын
That be so sweet!!!!
@barbaragrazerrobinson12078 ай бұрын
Ekko my vote. Thanks for a fun review
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thanks Barbara!
@ricktanner98178 ай бұрын
Excellent video on two exceptional models. I agree the price point is a real downside. Loved seeing all the features in these new models.
@dalenihiser77668 ай бұрын
You can see the better build quality of the Ekko over the Condor. Too bad you couldn't get that 2025 Ekko floorplan on the Ford chassis. One advantage of the Ford chassis is there are more Ford dealers coast to coast who can service it.
@toycarcollector8 ай бұрын
Jolly good show. Ekko for the win!
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😀
@TeacherTonya748 ай бұрын
I could get a really good quality Class B for $178K! I thought Class C's were supposed to be cheaper than B's! I like the Echo better too. The bathroom conversion is what puts it over the edge.
@markgoldner30838 ай бұрын
The bed configuration is called the Winnebago Flex Bed with WinnSleep system. 😅( wow, that’s a lot of words!).😳😀
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Bahaha! Thanks!
@TrishBenedict8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised the Mercedes EKKO doesn't have an outdoor kitchen. It's an option on the Ford chassis model - and isn't the Mercedes a longer vehicle by a couple of feet? (If you look at The Fit RV channel when they bought the first EKKO off the assembly line, James and Stef opted for no outdoor kitchen and turned that space into a litter box for their cat Instead!)
@dorothyburton68528 ай бұрын
I choose the Ekko also. now time to rent one and try it out.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Agree!
@MWILSON78 ай бұрын
Kwould it be possible to list the OCCC of each vehicle so we know how much cargo each RV can carry?
@gary.joseph8 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed that was not mentioned and not compared is the Cargo Carrying Capacities of each. Two very different chassis with similar builds but different in building materials and options. The CCC would be a huge factor for me on a comparison decision.
@Erica_Brenda8 ай бұрын
A sink in the bathroom is a waist of space. With out it, that shower would be so much more comfortable.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Agree!
@gailanncastellanos64008 ай бұрын
Check out the two videos on the EKKO transit and EKKO Mercedes from the FitRV. They have a Transit. But Mercedes wasn't available until now. There are a lot of differences. The Mercedes is longer overall. Good videos to compare.
@johnmccool68757 ай бұрын
I believe the Ekko is wider. Just in looking at where the cab meets the body. That might be what makes the dining area more spacious.
@JoshuaMartian-go3tm8 ай бұрын
Min 19:39 I think that's for the portable, removable, collapsable sink ... I think.
@angusmacdonald71938 ай бұрын
Very nice but how can you justify the cost over the 2024 Coachmen Cross Trail Extreme EV RV 20XG which seems to have better features. I do like the split beds and cassette toilet on the Ecco but can't get over the price. What would you recommend?
@thevagabondonwheels491815 күн бұрын
Toured one of these and a Transit Ekko side-by-side at a dealer yesterday. I strongly prefer the Entegra to the Transit Ekko and, considering that the MSRPs of both are nearly identical, the Entegra is a much better buy from a features standpoint. My only big concern with the Entegra is them sacrificing a MaxxAir fan for that stupid skylight. Agree on the lounge, not comfortable and would need to be upgraded. Also, no three-point seatbelt for a rear passenger in the Entegra if you travel with more than one additional person. There is a carseat anchor, however.
@thelovepug8 ай бұрын
Hands down, EKKO! 👍🏻❤
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
👏👏👏
@dwoodygura8 ай бұрын
Entegra is owned by Jayco which is owned by THOR. Enough said. While the interior colors are much better in the Condor and I like the outdoor kitchen I'd still have to go with the Ekko. We are current Winnebago Travato owners and love it.
@michelleconcannon75848 ай бұрын
I’m a Winnebago girl but the Entegra is surprisingly nice. That being said, the cost of maintenance on the Mercedes will be more, if you aren’t doing it yourself. Both are too expensive 😮
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Agree 💯!
@hotniaoniao8 ай бұрын
Mercedes oil change alone will cost a king's ransom. Ford parts and service can be found everywhere. It's a no brainer for me.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
That's what we would be afraid of!
@svenhodaka91455 ай бұрын
Sprinter “A” service oil change (13 liters of oil!+ checks?) is $800 Canadian. The “B” service is $2000. Good fuel mileage but keep in mind you’ll be adding DEF fluid too. IDK, but I need some help understanding the advantages of the diesel Sprinter vs the gasoline Transit. Can someone explain please.
@tkasky41448 ай бұрын
Pleasure Way XLTS - find one of these to compare 🙂
@milesfong39018 ай бұрын
I agree no need for a sink in the bathroom, when there's a sink right outside the door.
@travelingjaneatte92208 ай бұрын
we really love our B we had a C for a few years and i just didn't like the engine noise in the cab it was hard to carry a conversation and or watch videos we test drove the ekko and as much as i loved the floor plan it was just like having a C
@goose-F162 ай бұрын
that "cutting board" fits where the cooktop sits in the drawer for more counter space.. I own the sprekko, so im biased but I looked at the other brands.. far prefer the sprinter base
@mikemanjo24588 ай бұрын
The bed is a Froley System. It seemed you had more headroom in the Ekko.❤
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Agree :)
@josiahschaffer96526 ай бұрын
Just rent unless you’re retired. Wife and I are just wrapping a two week multi state road trip in an LTV Wonder Corner Bed and it was awesome but the wife and I are good on that amount of driving and duration for a least two years. Quick weekend trips to Joshua tree or other local areas for sure in between the big trips like this one. It’s fun and amazing but also tiring and long. Renting is the best and you can switch up whatever type of rig you want depending on the place you’re going or time you’re traveling.
@myohmy8398 ай бұрын
Condor/Granite Ridge uses a Timberline Binar 5D hydronic heating system. The heat and hot water heater use gas from the chassis, not propane.
@blackcatrose42577 ай бұрын
Id add a alt charger. Huge fan of Earthroamers set up. Totally self reliant.
@sandydemars81008 ай бұрын
Our Froli sleep system is comfortable, but another thing that needed warranty work. We are careful with what blankets we tuck under the bed. The Froli gets caught on blankets, which will break the system. If I had the money and was choosing between the two, I would choose the Ekko. But. So far. For the money, I like the Coachman that you toured a couple weeks ago. I like the table to turn into a bed and the room in the garage and the stove not in a drawer. I don't have a cassette toilet and have never had one so I don't know if that would be good or not. Coachman has a regular toilet. I think this Ekko is so much more money because it's a diesel. So if you need and can afford a diesel, that probably isn't too bad a price. As diesels go.😊
@tschwingle8 ай бұрын
I agree, really like the features of the Coachman 20XG EV. Have been looking at Class B's for some time, but the extra space would be nice and the dual energy options of the 20XG are appealing, along with the price vs the B's that I have been looking at.
@TNWisky78 ай бұрын
The Winnebago ekko has a Better layout and the Shower Separates from the Toilet. If it had the outdoor kitchen it would be Perfect
@MikeKilo19698 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of the Mercedes chassis, but otherwise I love the EKKO, I hope the improvements carry over to the Ford.
@gailanncastellanos64008 ай бұрын
The extra board in the kitchen is to put under the induction burner.
@HD2-19995 ай бұрын
Dreaming of the Sprekko!
@Vancaskeys5 ай бұрын
Dreamy!
@DJL6258 ай бұрын
Gives extra counter top to be used in top drawer, EKKO hands down the better build ! More storage & solar and a lot more propane!!!
@miss.kimpossible8 ай бұрын
I’m digging the Ekko!!! Did you happen to notice the gas mileage? I watched a video on a 2022 and the couple said they were getting about 10 miles to the gallon!!!! 🤦🏼♀️
@TrishBenedict8 ай бұрын
I wondered about that. It's really hard to find that sort of information. I'll stick with our wee Solis Pocket. We get easily over 20.
@miss.kimpossible8 ай бұрын
@@TrishBenedict I have a Solis Pocket, too!
@TrishBenedict8 ай бұрын
@@miss.kimpossible We downsized from a Travato G. It was too big and the access to storage was so difficult under and above that narrow 6-foot long bed. Also happy to get rid of things we never used like a TV and generator. I do miss the big fridge, but I'm happier with the Pocket. Less is more.
@lorih43928 ай бұрын
I love it too. except i dont want diesel or def.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Yeah...good point.
@lvpuppets8 ай бұрын
Went to the RV show today after the Dodger game. Was hoping to run into you guys!
@lvpuppets8 ай бұрын
The Storytellers Beast modes stole the show for me!
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Oh fun! We were there on Saturday!
@bikeama8 ай бұрын
Winnebago sells an EKKO Sprinter and an EKKO Transit. The Transit is $30,000 less and the FORD has double the torque of the MB. Also I noticed that Winnebago calls both Class C.
@playthingsracing888 ай бұрын
Good luck if you have issues with your Ford however. They're the worst domestic for fighting lemon laws ( Fact ). I know this because I had a lemon from them and they tried everything before I ended up winning.
@lindasteller8 ай бұрын
Love the Ekko, but not on a Mercedes chassis. Repairs will not only be expensive, you'll wait forever for parts.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Ugh…that’s what we’d be afraid of!
@nancymoreau37398 ай бұрын
Hate the froli as it catches the sheets and bedspread in our Travato G model with the murphy bed. It was so bad Winnebago finally replaced it in the newer models with a sprung wood slat approach that still allows air flow under the mattress which was the major reason for the froli. Added comfort was second. The Ford Condor lacking air flow under the mattress sitting on the board will eventually create mold unless you buy an aftermarket solution to get air under the mattresses.
@TinyGoHomes8 ай бұрын
I’m 30k into my own build. Tiny home trailer and a hummer. I’m not the type to buy something like this. I would rather build something myself. Probably would get a military truck with that kinda cash.
@Sandra-cm5ez8 ай бұрын
Mr Lemon should have that Frolli bed system, I do in Ms Lemon!
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
So awesome! We would love to have that too.
@Sandra-cm5ez8 ай бұрын
@@Vancaskeys, I’m surprised you don’t have it! Mine had to be replaced because it was broken in so many places.
@timy27838 ай бұрын
Froli sleep is great! The Elko would be my choice only if it had the Ford chassis! Even here in Europe the Ford Chassis has a better drive comfort ( I guess that's what you would call it) than the Mercedes. Merc. is much more expensive to service and a lot less service points for them around the world compared to the Ford.
@charlotteotueh18988 ай бұрын
Love watching you guys!😊
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Awww you’re so sweet! ❤️
@jimgrier78693 ай бұрын
I wish someone would talk about the chassis differences….regarding drive train and the reliability of each compared?
@bearlynormalwetshaver18948 ай бұрын
I just can't see a B+/C working for us. I think the trail roads as well as the boondocking and in-town parking situations we find ourselves in would be tough with a vehicle that size. We rarely do camgrounds. Also know my wife would not like driving it.
@johntinglin72807 ай бұрын
On the Entegra Condor the seatback cushions should have been raised to the level of the windowsill for back support. Otherwise, not bad
@doug20788 ай бұрын
Ekko gets the thumbs up. Much better bathroom. And no one wants the AC right above them.
@TEB648 ай бұрын
The a/c I don't believe is ducted, the vents are for heat in the bedroom.
@shontaefranklin38427 ай бұрын
Great vid, do you recall if the Ekko had swivel seats? Also did the Ekko have the propane tanks that you can remove? The tanks are the reason I like the Ekko.. Edit, you answered the questions towards the end lol. Rumor you can't swivel the seats without opening the doors.. (if you answer that later 🤣🤣😂😂)
@johnsvideo34038 ай бұрын
Wouldn't buy either one without a test drive. I was not looking at these two models but it was an MB and a Ford my mind changed a lot after driving them. I think RV reviews are really missing this part. On the ones you are looking at ... I have seen how you use them...make sure you check that payload or OCCC on the door. Again this should be part of all reviews. They don't share payload data on web sites because they say you never know what options are on the vehicle. Good luck.
@sparkyneely7 ай бұрын
I like the 2025 Ekko has it all
@joeymeisenheimer5848Ай бұрын
Do we know if you can swap the twin mattress out for a king that covers the entire back area?
@dannidunn93028 ай бұрын
I like the entegra best.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Sweet!
@dezmod1644Ай бұрын
Where do you put the kids? In the back storage?
@pumpkin45398 ай бұрын
FYI, you still need to use the shower curtain otherwise the water goes over the curb onto the floor outside. I don't understand the hoopla about the Mercedes chassis. Mercedes are expensive, they are more trouble to maintain, there are fewer service centers, and service is VERY expensive. I do like the new dining area layout.
@SteveUllrich-w5iАй бұрын
The Mercedes Ekko is longer. A better side by side comparison would be the Ekko on the Ford Chassis. Ford Ekko is set up similar to the Condor dining area. Both models on the ford chassis offer the outdoor kitchen. You lose the outdoor kitchen because of door placement on the Mercedes Ekko. I think I saw that Condor is now being offered on the Mercedes chassis as well.
@Rashnak668 ай бұрын
I think that coachman crosstrail you showed a few weeks ago is better
@brianbarbarich14018 ай бұрын
2025 model in March 2024. The way I see it is if you buy a 2025 model now it will registered in 2024 and license will be for 2024. Some sort of marketing trick, similar to shops selling Christmas stuff months before Christmas.
@starletsatori89338 ай бұрын
I'm with you... EKKO. Now, to win a lottery. But...oh wait... I don't play lotto. Hmmmm
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
Haha! Same!
@shelaran54887 ай бұрын
Timberline hot water and heat, in the Condor & Granite Ridge. Both Ford, gas engine.
@Erica_Brenda8 ай бұрын
So, they can give a %63,288.00 discount and still make money (probably make over $100,000 of profit.) If I were you, I'd pick the van you like and build an RV out of it. You will save a LOT of dollars and have exactly what you want and no worries about them using staples instead of screws. Not delamination issues. No subquality items being installed.
@rottiek4238 ай бұрын
Ekko all the way.
@Vancaskeys8 ай бұрын
👏👏👏
@scottkindley8 ай бұрын
So does the bedroom still lack heating ducts in the EKKO?
@davyjones8443 ай бұрын
One Day i will Buy it 👍🏻
@Vancaskeys3 ай бұрын
👏👏👏
@zimou8128 ай бұрын
Who makes the Ford condor? Is that made by Winnebago? Isn't the Ekko a diesel vs. Ford being gas? I do not prefer the Mercedes because I do not like the location of the batteries located under the drivers side floorboards. Also, I've seen that they do not come with a dip stick to check your oil. You have to check it on the dashed. If it is a diesel, the oil changes are MUCH more expensive than the Ford. Mercedes = $$$. But the dinette was a lot nicer in the Mercedes. Either way, thanks for showing both. You both do an awesome job. I definitely would have bought the Mercedes if the shower was in the fridge. Keep those videos coming!!!
@lisabauduin87612 ай бұрын
I think the sprinter is a bit better. But what about comparing the Condor with the Transit?