The worst problem with the 2nd movie is completely cutting off the pope assassination plan. The mole cop and masuo plots feels very contrived and friends ressurects out of nowhere when a random foreign politician approaches the corpse. Also its a weird mix with the complete edition. Kenji's CE manga counterpart refuses to play gutalala at the concert since katsumata, co-creator of the music, died before, but movie Kenji sings it despite the katsumata scene at the rooftop being a copypaste of the CE.
@SeaGee3 жыл бұрын
I would be curious to know what their reasoning behind changing the pope stuff. I mean they cast someone in that role and have him elsewhere in the movie so definitely a weird choice. Also yeah I agree. The concert works a lot better in the manga. Tying back into the ending and leaving that kind of sombre ending. The movies concert feels like this weird happy fanservice. I mean yeah it was enjoyable to watch but definitely misses the importance of not playing Bob Lennon
@Sassssky4 ай бұрын
@SeaGee what you can put in a Japanese manga and an international theatrical movie release are different things. There's a reason the bulletproof popemobile exists. John Paul 2(polish one) got shot In 1981. Corporate guy says "we are absolutely not assassinating the pope". All there is to it I Imagine, far too close to reality.
@oneghostie81103 жыл бұрын
You’re becoming one of my favourite channels, soo underrated and amazing analysis + editing
@SeaGee3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, that's really encouraging to hear
@Eterco18 күн бұрын
Your video is very well made. I'm glad you also like Bob Lennon
@maif6762 Жыл бұрын
Very new to your channel here. I came from a couple of your Monster vids and wanted to see if you had a playlist of it and found the 20CB list. My experience with this series if only the live action movies. I watched them with my family when I was little (don’t ask why a child was watching just know I was definitely younger than 11). I loved the movies but also hated them. Deep down I was super unnerved by the entire thing but I would frequently ask to watch it. This has made me want to rewatch the films but diving into your 3 hour video on the manga. My family does own the manga but since I didn’t try to learn kanji when I was younger and the manga not having furigana it would take me a LONG time to read through it. Hoping it’ll satiate my hunger for the story. Side note: I hope the comment is coherent. I typed this out very late in the evening and I am very tired. Sorry if it doesn’t make sense.
@joshuajosephdistura30533 жыл бұрын
Ngl I didn't even know there were live action movies. Good or bad, I think I should check these out. Keep up the great work SeaGee!
@SeaGee3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope you enjoy the watch! They've got some really great moments in them
@verbalspecz86762 жыл бұрын
I really agree with your point of view of pacing issues , but I think there’s also alot of content in the manga aswell which can’t be all covered for the sake of the run time so I think that’s why we ended up with sort of a good idea of a movie idea but poor execution . The movie was really corny aswell at times which didn’t help either overall this was an amazing video and your analysis was amazing keep up the great content!!!😁
@SeaGee2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I totally agree. I think it was going to be a real rough time to get everything from the 300ish chapters into 3 movies and still have good pacing. And yes those corny moments definitely didn't help. Though they certainly put a smile on my face while watching!
@mintssu2843 Жыл бұрын
Been binging your 20thCB videos after finally reading the series. I watched the movies as they came out in the cinemas and I can say that even then, them trying to paint Yoshitsune as "Friend" did not make sense at all and I rmb sitting in the cinema like ?! But because it had been more than half a year between the final 2 movies, I might have gaslit myself into thinking I had forgotten some important details. It took me so long to finally read the series but it definitely does so much better in building up the cast and emphasizing their friendships. I think Naoki Urasawa's art is extremely instrumental in making characters recognizeable across the timelines and that just can't be replicated as well in live-action. Though, coming back to this after reading, I have a newfound appreciation for the casting Keep up the good work with your videos!
@reflesh88023 жыл бұрын
another 15 minutes of my life made better beacuse of 20th CB
@mikethegamedev Жыл бұрын
8:31 I actually would like to see them showing middle finger instead of that
@nequos2850 Жыл бұрын
i cant get into mangas so this movie was a godsent for me, love this trilogy
@LowRankSeaPlayer3 жыл бұрын
Help, I somehow managed to get a glimpse on 20CB fandom. Never read or watched any clips regarding to this manga. This been recommended to me by many times but never had the time to binge. Now, I am planning to read/watch this. As a normal weeb, will the movie make sense if I watched it without reading the manga? how many % will I miss if I watch the live action instead of reading 20/21CB?
@SeaGee3 жыл бұрын
I would always recommend reading over watching. The movies manage to keep in I'd say 90% of the major plot points but leave out a lot of the stuff that builds into them. Plus they change some things which, while still building the same story, feels very different to the manga. E.g. some characters take on roles in the movies that someone else has in the manga or entire subplots are left out and their conclusions are kind of clumsily stapled in. TL;DR manga is better but if you're not keen on diving into 250 chapters, the movies will give you the main plot beats
@gembocobo94845 ай бұрын
I hope they get another shot. Maybe a more accurate adaptation live action series eventually because an anime seems very unlikely.
@boltz42982 жыл бұрын
where i can watch this pls i want to watch live action i didnt find it on other sites
@smoothdream69 Жыл бұрын
In kissasian site
@1BrknHrtdRomeo9 ай бұрын
Honestly, the movies were a great introduction to getting further into the manga (Altho, I haven't read it to this day but I will!) I was a few years from graduating highschool, relatively aimless, and I saw the first 2 movies on a Japan Airlines flight lol. I was just so friggin engaged. I related to Kenji. Thinking I was following my dream but failed. Wishing I was some sort of "hero" or something bigger. This and knowing the manga was a great eye opener to something beyond Dragonball, Naruto, or Initial D. Just utter mindfucks and twists. Fast forward to 2024 and it's crazy when you think of the global pandemic or the political divisiveness. I guess we need music to somehow save the world again.
@parfaitcell3067 Жыл бұрын
I never read the manga, only watch this movies, and it works, i suddenly knew Naoki urusawa is a Goat, so watch Monsters and Pluto anime
@americangizmopied2 жыл бұрын
How did you (or anyone) see the movies? I can't find any ways to watch the trilogy other than buying expensive english subbed all region dvds
@hazardouskiwi5944 Жыл бұрын
i found some of em on youtube, with various levels of quality
@RxlredE Жыл бұрын
Ive never read a manga from start to end.. ive read 4-5 manga to continue anime. Should i watch these movies directly and then read manga?
@shizaamuze49929 ай бұрын
No I recommend reading the manga before watching the movie