22/42 The Secrets of Kurt Gödel

[@kevon217]

That intro immediately hooked me.

[@IProKv]

Gary Geck! Could there ever be a time where you gather your research in the form of investigative videos like this once more? To elucidate more on the history of forgotten ideas! Surely you are not done man!

[@Lewclan]

It brings me to tears how fantastic these videos are

[@rustyb4nana]

please produce more content, you know it is needed friend

[@user-wo5bp2oi5c]

Thank you Gary for doing what you do.

[@Redflowers9]

I can't appreciate this enough. Thanks

[@Zigiwy]

Can't wait for more on Gödel! Your videos deserve far more views.

[@heyassmanx]

Gary this this is absolutely great, thanks for taking the time my man

[@oker59]

I see six total videos left of Gary Geck's secret history; what happened to all these videos?

[@mikewasinger9029]

So glad I found this! Well done.

[@Siniverisyys]

Your videos have changed my life. Please do more

[@hominidaetheodosia]

Gary please please please can you make your entire series available for a paid download- Your work is too important to be lost in the dust of KZbin- Your website is already no longer functioning how long until these amazing scraps of video are lost-

[@meanwhilemania]

This is excellent, Gary.

[@vclips6343]

Ay man we are desperately waiting for a new upload.

[@giustinoblake3686]

thank you for honoring kurt goedel this way

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

thanks for all the feedback everyone. I currently only have parts 1, 2, 3, 22, and 28 done but more on the way.

[@RajnishDahiya]

Where are rest of the videos mate?

[@stelun56]

absolutely awesome

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

thanks for your interest!!

[@ElSmusso]

Great work Mr Gary

[@makro80]

i just randomly came across this, have only seen episode 3. NOW IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME. ill take a closer look at this.

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

yes and kripke's lectures used to be online, password protected, but I lost the link and havn't ben about to find them in years.

[@ovenlovesyou]

awesome video man, I intend to check out the rest. keep it up

[@rgfuller2]

Hello, do you still have links available for the podcasts?

[@oddarneroll]

Great (super great!!), but where are the rest? Or when?

[@hansfrankfurter2903]

Where are the rest of the videos?

[@vanessaleininger4479]

Gary, where are you?

[@SydneyCarton2085]

nice videos!, what is the name of the song at around 5:00 minutes?

[@teddyjo26]

The song's named "Gloomy Sunday." One of my favorites.

[@SydneyCarton2085]

finally! A thousand thank yous!

[@teddyjo26]

Happy to be of help! There are many versions of it, Billie Holiday's is my personal favorite.

[@김한준-h3x]

Diego Cervantes 내가 많이 좋아 졌다

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

Yes, this slide has a typo. I am aware of it. It will be fixed when I actually cover the 1st incompleteness theorem in an upcoming video. I actually will use a slightly different equation/approach that is equally powerful but hopefully a little bit more clear. Good job catching that. This slide is a mess though...

[@mage1over137]

Isn't the set of all set really a class in ZMF, is different in other logical systems?

[@apalepeks2000]

Love you, man!

[@memesofproduction27]

For anyone genuinely curious about Gödel's philosophical views and their continuation (albeit subtly and against the spirit of the times...), you should check out Richard Tieszen's book, After Gödel. It's fantastic!

[@goertzpsychiatry9340]

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[@szgyrgy]

Hey Gary! Could you tell the name of the music in the end of this video?

[@pikiwiki]

the supposition of the absolute, omniscience. this underlies his suppositions. correct?

[@geoffreychaucer2399]

who is or are the artists between 3:00 - 4:13? Thanks.

[@capaxver]

"A man whose results continued to shock the world. A man who married his sweetheart, a nightclub dancer." Lol

[@SirJourdain]

What is the song playing in the background @ 7.00?

[@dzarren]

Where are the other parts concerning the theorems in detail?

[@stelun56]

The margin wasn't big enough

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

hopefully part 23 will be out soon

[@AdversusHaereses]

This video is awesome. What programme did you use to make it? Cheers!

[@vclips6343]

Where are the rest of videos?

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

coming soon...out of order

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

but I guess your subtle point is that it is wrong to call Cantor's Absolute the 'set' of all sets even informally as I do. This is very subtle because to say that inconsistent sets are not sets is like saying undecidable problems aren't problems. The question is: in the mind of God (to Cantor) are these inconsistent aggregates distinct and unique. If the answer is yes, then it is ok in Cantorian Set theory to call the Absolute the set of all sets informally.

[@wenaolong]

While there is more than one kind of "inconsistency" (a unique kind which is antivalent, and all the other kinds which are subsets of the Ultimate or "Absolute"), inconsistency can be itself either relative or absolute. There exists exactly one absolute inconsistency, the rest are relative. The absolute inconsistency is itself being destroyed and made permanently impossible, and this is a metaphysical occurrence. It can be logically described.

[@logician3]

Gary, watching you post one of the videos every six months is extremely frustrating. Your information is so unique and important, I just wish there was some way for you to speed up the process!!! Your work is some of the most anticipated info that I have seen out of all the hundreds of YT channels that I am a subscriber of. Endelessly fascinating and undeniably relevant work.

[@goertzpsychiatry9340]

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[@GaryGeckDotCom]

sorry working on part 23 at the moment...sorry it's been so long...putting lots of care into the next one...thanks for the interest!!!

[@TheBraunzone]

A new Geck ?

[@AnnaTheFairy]

'He would visit Leibniz first' funny, I always say if Aristotel was alive he would be my one and only friend lol

[@LovePH926]

This is great, thanks for posting.

[@VVeltanschauung187]

There's an active suppression of the mystical origin of philosophy

[@happyman]

Cool. I never expected I would ever have this conversation in youtube. Anyway most of what I know come from reading John Dawson Jr.'s book Logical Dilemmas: The Life and Work of Kurt Godel. I'm sure to visit all episodes of your series. have a nice day.

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

LaureanoLuna: yes, I stress that Cantor considered the Absolute inconsistent and unfit for human contemplation at around 11:19 and later at around 11:49 I stress that what we now call the proper class of all sets is not a set because proper classes are not sets. But that some classes called 'small classes' are sets.

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

there is a comment in the Princeton centennial video I posted where John Dawson quotes Godel as saying ESP is worth studying and that our contact with the platonic world may constitute ESP. But keep in mind this is just part 1 of 7 videos I will release on Godel...that is parts 22-28 of my 42 part series. Part 28 is up and part 23 will be up very soon..in production now

[@memesofproduction27]

GARY WTF DON'T LEAVE US HANGING LIKE THIS. AT LEAST PUBLISH YOUR PAPERS.

[@aphysique]

Where or when was this talked about??

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

go to garygeck dot com and go to podcasts. you will find the link to the entire lecture.

[@LaureanoLuna]

There was no set of all sets for Cantor. Sets made up an inconsistent multiplicity for him, what we now call a proper class, a class that is not a set. But he regarded the infinity of inconsistent multiplicities as the absolute infinite, something transcending mathematics and pertaining to theology.

[@wenaolong]

All the world wants to talk about is his incompleteness theorems. In light of this information, which I had not known before, Gödel strikes me as a very Beautiful Being. The world seems to intentionally look away from this Beauty and shun it and hide it, just as they did with Bach. Bach and Gödel are now both in the pantheon for me, officially. I wonder about Escher now.

[@memesofproduction27]

Surely you just finished Hofstadter's book? What did you mean by saying the absolute inconsistency is itself being destroyed? How can you logically describe this happening? Is it being made consistent? Is it being made non-absolute? Can you refer to some source on this?

[@skeetorkiftwon]

@@memesofproduction27 "All the world" And by that he meant the few hundred thousand people concerned with the issue. Lol The issue seems to be, "that which is provable is rooted in digital logic at it's base." People struggle with the unnecessary inclusion of indeterminate variables. An elementary example is when I was first exposed to "x" as a variable. I hotly contested that every "equation" had a fixed, finite answer. I would guess that most people being exposed to set logic have the same urge to count the apples as when exposed to algebra. Relaxing the mind is difficult, when trained to focus life long.

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

thanks...be sure to follow them all on gary geck dot com

[@stevenblack7928]

Good informative video, one tip however, put the speed on 1.25, this realy improves the narration.

[@ramkumarr1725]

Saw Kurt Godel now. RPA.

[@sophiashakti5638]

great video, thank you, love your dogs.

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

Oh sorry and the 3d scenes are all done in 3ds max 2012

[@happyman]

very informative and full of insight... you should have also mentioned that godel believed that paranormal activity are worthy of being investigated... and reasoned that the many instances of fakes suggested to him not that superstition should be abandoned but somehow that there is a truth behind these phenomena that is being masked by deception.

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

thanks. I make everything with adobe premiere and after effects...i do some sound eting in audacity but my audio needs a lot of work...check out my other vids in my channel.

[@gabrielcandamo6831]

Great video!

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

technically speaking the "Absolute" is the class of all sets which is not a set at all...but in general yes you're right...

[@PDXBuys]

When you translate "This statment cannot be proved" into notation, shouldn't the first part be: ∃r:∃s:, where "∃" is the symbol for "existential qualifier" and NOT the number "3"?

[@paulcunnane4]

Thank you.

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

I'm making and releasing the vids out of order...to see all of the ones made, go to my channel's playlists or gary geck dot com

[@MarkCarbajal]

@ Investigator. No what are you trying to say here.....

[@VeilerDark]

you have to watch Robert Sapolsky's lectures about limbic system and endocrine disbalances, also the effects of it to ones psychology and cosmotheory.

[@VeilerDark]

there is no absolute directly, but probabilistically as infinite classes of infinite ranges of "evolving-progressing" sets, and there are infinite probabilistic absolutes theoretically but not actually and we cannot measure them because then they are no longer absolutes

[@Tamer_108]

I watched Sapolsky's lecture on Limbic System and Schizophrenia, and I don't follow your conclusion. How does genius and madness sometimes being linked (in this case w/ Gödel) discredit his worldview or theorems?

[@memesofproduction27]

Sapolsky is a bro, but what on Earth are you trying to connect here?

[@goertzpsychiatry9340]

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[@AmyAmy-er8bp]

Sev@ Amerikayum vontsa aprum... Kam How you got food... Vonts haskanam????

[@WarzSchoolchild]

Today is always a good day to die! ... Death itself may be a terrible and frightening experience? we all carry baggage, our past mistakes. A brave man can face that with equanimity. Kurt's fear of death is irrational, and must have lead to psychosis. So very sad. Reverse "SAD" and it becomes the Sanskrit word "Das" meaning servant of the truth... the masculine form is "Dasa" and the feminine form is "Dasi". .. I believe that "Fear" when justified is protective, but unjustified fear is a psychosis, and even highly detrimental to our life.

[@bhakti_anthropology]

Alastair Carnegie if only Godel had of found the path of service in Bhakti Yoga. A bhakti yoga practitioner does not care if he/she lives or dies for they know that the body is temporary and the soul is eternal. Their only fear is forgetting that truth, and their only desire is to serve the Supreme Being, God, and all His parts and parcels.

[@rahfx5485]

I don't think Godel was afraid to die. I think he was so sure of his metaphysical beliefs and so in love with his wife he wished to move on from this life and into the next. No one starves themselves to death without an extreme sense of certainty about why they are doing so.

[@paulcunnane4]

Please don't pollute the comments with garbled pseudo philosophy. Thanks.

[@joelcastellon9129]

what does your dog have to do with Godel.....wtf

[@VeilerDark]

nazi bastards are symbolized as dogs, Plato was a nazi - pure Athenian that didn't accept complex consepts only imaginary, these nazis slayed Greek mathematicians that have revealed the existence of irrational numbers. Adolf Hitler and Marx had this magical thinking also, they wanted to bend the actual world arround their limbic system schizotypical perception. Only manslauhter can do so, you cannot change to world, only kill the ones that oppose your fairytale version. Many of nazi and communist ideas started with a kind metaphysical ascpet of some overestimated biased values. Kurt Gödel was not a nazi himself but an idealist. Idealism based in limbic system disharmony causes theories that lead to manslaughter. Google "limbic system" and "schizotypical prespective range" Kurt Gödel was a kind not nazi nazi. He fed the bias of absulute pure unchangable ideas all societies have, but politicians with the same schizotypical psychosis used the Platonic and Gödel point of view as a justification for applying perfectionism. If you don't blame Kurt Gödel for social nazification it's like not blaming Carl Marx for Stalin;s crimes, even against fellow Russians. Some people play the role of the brain, and some others lead the decapitating axe. The main brain might not give direct orders of manslaughter, because society is like an octapus, even the slaying hand has a self developed brain, this is no reason to disengage Kurt Gödel from that crimes against humanity. The worst crimes are commited by kind-hearted people that teached social bias in the extreme, like support others, eternal love and other pure ideas that to be applied in the real word, they do not say so, but only manslaughter can allow a common bias. Plato Socrates and other nazi theorists were very intelligent. The fact they were intelligent does not mean they didn't cause a craving for biased absolute interpretations. Bernhard Riemann and Aristotle on the opposite hand tried to seperate the bias from the real cosmos. Aristotle was ancient so he made some mistakes, but he was the father of humanistic-practical sciences. Also Gödel's incompleteness theorems are anti-bias theorems, so even Gödel was against bias, but he selected biased opinions for emotional and axiomatic reasons. This is the greatest Gödel's incompatibility and lack of consistency. That self-controversy caused to him trauma and more psychic stress. His deepest fundamental ideas supported his intelectual enemies ideas, but he mis-interpreted them either focused on emotional biased needs. That caused not only more inner trauma to him. but deaths of people that expressed his ideas politically.

[@JORiGamEng]

uploader-X Ha.

[@abhiramababa]

+uploader-X that doesn't make any sense. Marx was a materialist. Socialism and social-nationalist fascism are incredibly atheistic political ideologies and those governments outlawed freedom of religious expression and greatly oppressed people who spoke of love of God. In the USSR, you could be executed for publishing theistic writings. Gödel on the other hand, was directly opposed to materialistic society and the social Darwinism that results from believing that the purpose of life is purely driven by survival of the fittest. Gödel directly opposed all that. So what you're saying literally doesn't make any sense. Materialistic society is driven by the idea that consciousness is a product of matter and that material existence is the only basis of truth and the purpose of life is material success. This materialism, taken to a fascistic extremism, is social Darwinism. That fascist extreme is Hitler. That is the direct result of the belief that the purpose of human life is material and economic success. Whereas God consciousness directly opposes this materialistic ideology by saying that the purpose of life is understanding and loving God and thus cultivating our higher humanity and spiritual development. God consciousness, the spiritual sciences, directly opposes the fascism of materialistic governments.

[@Samzonish]

Oh Cherry Blossom Girl by Air @ 3-4 :D

[@EntangleIT]

Thank you

[@sanjosemike]

It's a pity that nobody asked Godel to prove this statement: "This statement is false: Why would anyone want to poison me? sanjosemike

[@Deguiko]

what do you mean that a question is false?

[@Debunker246]

thanks for this

[@zadeh79]

He exploited both the limitations of math, as well as the limitations of logic. His theory shows that the generation of axioms (via creativity and intuition) are the most abstract of human capacities, and are entirely relevant to human reasoning.

[@goertzpsychiatry9340]

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[@qwerdbeta]

I do that to continue a thread of thought.

[@rapidsallt]

It was John von Neumann who called him "the greatest logician since Aristotle" because Godel beat Neumann on this.

[@ym0101]

I believe in the conspiracy he believed. And I too, want to study Math+Philosophy. He's REALLY interesting!

[@thetherorist9244]

the problem with the world is that if a man could prove it all you would never hear of him.

[@2011sjw]

..................................................................good stuff......................thx kindly........

[@EstrellaPolux]

ahmmm, to be frank, this is not really easy to understand to me....

[@MrPoutsesMple]

Too much advertising of your website.

[@saintcelab3451]

+ΣΚΡΟΥΤΖ ΜΑΚ ΝΤΑΚ Lmao

[@AmyAmy-er8bp]

Aha... Ranguel... say it... NOW how do you feel?

[@AmyAmy-er8bp]

Asum es "Psychological issues"???? INch psychology? Conentration camp@ psychology er?

[@markwrede8878]

He trusted that god would turn fix inconsistency with completeness.

[@AmyAmy-er8bp]

Mnatsats@ mi SVAYO znayem... Zaya.... ???? tents????

[@mage1over137]

I see what you did there, you changed the order in which the video's are made.Lol

[@chris-g.1750]

I think he pronnounce hes Name correctly because thats also my famaly Name but very correcly would be gödl to pronnounce without e and not gödel i think that what my grandmom say and deleted the e out of our Name but People still call it gödel. Lucky the world has many People that can critisize mister Gödel and can do it better then him cool. Please take into account that it was another time then. At least he started a discussion People would maybe not talk about it if he would came up with it.

[@GaryGeckDotCom]

got it

[@dongdestroyer6077]

I hate how the wives were mentioned as footnotes when they probably wrote a good deal of their husbands' material. Fairy tales do NOT show an ideal unless you're a patriarch. So Godel's love of them is pretty transparent.

[@waterkingdavid]

+Dong Destroyer Interesting take. But could you elaborate please. Would you consider Jung to be a patriarch?

[@AmyAmy-er8bp]

IDLE Leat IDLEAT

[@billearp245]

Only place to say that is in a classroom.

[@hawkkim1974]

So simple. Obviously set abstraction is broken. Math is like programming. It just uses symbols and human logic machine as hw. If an abstraction is broken, fuck it instead of sticking to it for your job.

[@TJ-kk5zf]

kind of like peterson!!!!!!!

[@ramkumarr1725]

Godel is in. Not Bertrand Russell. Mathematicians need a real barber. ❤RPA

[@mage1over137]

nevermind my last comment i was impatient

[@Siniverisyys]

The Thunder, Perfect Mind For I am the first and the last. I am the honored one and the scorned one.

[@ANDRESMOTTA-dk3kn]

I love math.