225 RSW Custom Guitar P9 Neck Fitting and Shaping

[@tomallen8527]

Jerry, thanks for showing all the details of cutting the tenon and mortise. This is what I’m doing on my guitar right now. This will really help me.

[@patrickhutton6646]

Regarding a good wood filler. Years ago,when i was a much younger man we mixed Plaster of Paris with the proper Japan color,to darken the pores.Then we sanded all this down to the wood.Works great but it is work,lots of work and hark work too.Just tossing this out there.This was the accepted filler that was used for years upon years.Good luck.

[@nicolen.9642]

Amazing work on the neck. Beautiful headstock veneer. Thanks Jerry 🎶🎶🎶

[@thedoc1210]

brilliant work, can't wait to hear this beauty ring and sing

[@SteveAaron]

Jerry, when you asked the other day I suggested you use pumice and shellac. I doubt you ever used that. When done properly it’s the best wood filler you can find. No need for 21th century technology when the old stuff is the best. 😉

[@dalehargreaves5196]

Used this on my one build. Definitely rt equires technique but seemed too work fine on sepeele. Not a one step process for a novice. Besides, Shellac is a good sealer and base coat for a lot of finishes.

[@bakstabbath]

Coming along nicely! My vote is for a light, natural finish on the neck.

[@barbedstar6480]

Yea!!! A Jerry video on my Birthday evening...what a nice end to the day! Even if he is sounding a bit frustrate with that darned open grain. Still a good time for this evening.

[@manuelsantiago1810]

El Cumbanchero was composed by Rafael Hernandez from Puerto Rico. They gave as his last name his mother's maiden name, Maria Hernandez; his father was Miguel Angel Rosa.

[@jeffgrier8488]

The guitar is looking really good!

[@Yoda8945]

Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with an axe? Actually a fantastic job! Great Work!

[@scottbulmer7160]

I bought a Gibson J-15 last year that has walnut back/sides/fingerboard with a "natural" maple neck. The lighter neck is a nice variation to the a "traditional build". Thanks for the video Jerry and everyone have a great day!

[@dwsnsgp]

Leave the neck light. Yes!

[@mschapman7]

Looking good! I wish I had a seat right next to you in the shop, I can’t get enough of this build.

[@RosaStringWorks]

Not a problem. I'm selling tickets. But they are expensive. LOL

[@n8tuwstevenewland933]

I like the light on the neck. Be just a little different. But looks good with the binding. Rosewood on the fret board.

[@jeyapragashradhaakrishnan3443]

I love the progress on the guitar so far. For the guitar neck, I would suggest keeping it a satin finish

[@keng3744]

Great router works. Thanks for sharing as always, Jerry.

[@stebly7]

Beautiful work as usual, Jerry. I enjoy seeing you shape your wood with skill that makes it look almost effortless. Looking forward with great anticipation to your completion video(s). The new guitar promises to be stunning!!!!!!

[@craigtaylor115]

Yeah I agree the light Nick would look really good with your in lies also as a contrast against the body

[@blkjckgtr3075]

Great build and Engineous woodworking skills Jerry I think the neck staying natural would be killer,what ever the customer wants,Cheers

[@petewalton8085]

Very nice job on the hand routing of that dove tail. I am interested in seeing the final adjustment to get the neck at correct angle and the fret board set at the body with a tight a seam without drop-off.

[@MrPotatochips4]

Love the videos, love you Jerry! Thing about wood I love, is it resists my intentions from start to finish because it's got its own integrity, and to work with it, sharp tools and understanding is required. Filling pores just gonna be a 3 or 4 step process, no matter what you use, but, I'm gonna read all the comments and hope to learn I'm wrong. (happens all the time :D) BTW, watching you and others do things I do, but differently, before I go to work makes me happier to be free to do my own work my own way, without anybody telling me how or what to do or think. Hope I don't come across as other than just telling you how I think. Also, my Gramma used to say "It's six to one, half a dozen to the other" all the time, so do I. Thanks again!

[@garyyeigh6098]

Loved the video Jerry.

[@roywalford1057]

Another interesting and informative video Jerry! The neck left natural, would be a good contrast with the darker body wood. Or as you Americans, would say, it'll really pop! Looking forward to the next installment!

[@jonahguitarguy]

I think this is the first time I've seen anyone freehand a dovetail joint. Jerry you are truly an animal, respect brother. I have ragged aquacoat filler up one side and down the other. I think I even threw it out on camera. It was my own Padauk guitar I was using it on. Hate it! I would have and may have said that Timbermate is the best most sandable product I have used. But it still takes two to three applications. And like you said with all the things we can do now it just seems like someone could develop a filler that works the first time. I've Zpoxy as well with ok results but many applications. I just got some Simtec easy sanding sealer and I'm liking it a lot as a filler-sealer. I will be sharing results in a video soon Please stand by!

[@RosaStringWorks]

Thank you my friend. I will be on the lookout for that video.

[@jonahguitarguy]

Hey Jerry, Robbie OBrien jsu put a up a vid this morning about grain fill with Zpoxy. Here's a link...kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKCXioFurNl2nKc

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

When I do router work ona small end like that, I use a sort of extension table made from some wood scraps well fastened to the long axis of the work piece with clamps. The added “table surface” adds immensely to stability of the router base.

[@RosaStringWorks]

I do that as well whenever I feel I need to. This one was just large enough where I didn't really feel it was necessary.

[@torqueson]

Instant like! Love this series! You do amazing work.

[@cojones8518]

Easy way to set the router depth for the body dovetail is to stand the neck up, put the router on top of the dovetail and drop the bit until it just touches the bottom of the dovetail on the neck.

[@csnelling4]

The guitar is looking good Jerry 👍

[@rickhubbard7342]

Being on disablement money I can't afford to become a patreon but it may be worth having a chat with Ben at Crimson Guitars, I've not seen him have the same problem with filling the grain. Just a crazy old Englishman here but I love watching you and Ben, 2 true masters at work

[@philbrown6787]

Yes, wipe off at 45 degree (diagonal) It’s always worked for me on tile or concrete work

[@RandySchartiger]

we'd make a fortune if we came up with a grain filler that actually worked lol good work here Jerry!

[@pcbullets8726]

Nice! Some great work Jerry!

[@willmorrison1022]

Hey, Jerry, great to see another installment of the guitar. It's going to be a beauty. Hey, I have those same calipers, and if you push the blue button, you go between inches and millimeters. An instant way to know which you're dealing with. I'm really looking forward to hearing this baby!

[@RosaStringWorks]

I was thinking as I watched that video it probably has a button that does that. Thanks for the tip. I don't use those calipers very often, I just used them because of the math issue.

[@pcschneid]

Jerry, I love your channel, I've watched them all and many several times. Something always bothered me like I met you before. I finally figered it out, you remind me of MARTIN CRANE (father of Frasier on the TV show "Frasier") That's a good thing, you both are really cool people. Just thought you should know.

[@RosaStringWorks]

My whole life people always say stuff like that. You remind me of so and so... LOL

[@mmccoy577]

You are an absolute craftsman.

[@jackyboygee777]

I've never found a better grain filler than block of natural bees wax, and it also rubs up to a nice sheen.

[@briansmith9698]

Rosa String Works ever here of a hippie neck reset also called strap button reset? Saw a video on You tube guy had old Harmony needed a neck reset. Luthier in video said do a hippie neck reset keep coast down. Take a razor saw cut neck till you get to where rod is then drill a hole threw heel put a screw through a strap button glue the neck clamp it. Suppose change neck angle.

[@douglasmorrison9098]

I love the way you deal with accuracy when you are building a guitar I know it doesnt have to be that close on the rough in but the finished product when it comes to guitars does have to be accurate if you want the quality so you try to be as accurate as possible with the rough in so it comes out perfect as far as man is concerned when its finished

[@DanDDirges]

Really enjoying this guitar build series! Amazing woodworking skil ! You make carving a neck look easy! Cant wait to see how you get that one degree angle on the neck. I don't know but maybe the wood grain pores shouldn't be covered because that way the wood can breath and dry out over time and then the guitar will sound better with age? Don't know just thinking out load. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I know its not easy shooting these videos and putting them together.

[@prestondaniels8451]

Jerry, maybe you should’ve used one of those ginormous fender triangle bass picks!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@geemac7267]

I'm of the same mind you are with the lack of quality pore fillers, Jerry. I saw a guy on a builder's forum once using egg whites and sanding dust and thought that might be worth trying, but I haven't yet. I've gotten to the point that I'm just satisfied with the pores not being filled. The look has grown on me. But I do understand that doesn't work on every guitar. Anyway, nice job and keep up the good work and good videos.

[@danawheeler6517]

Robert O’Brien (Luthier Tips du Jour Mailbag) has just posted a video of using zpoxy method of pore filling. So you know his is a two coat two day process. It is interesting to watch.

[@one1gretsch]

Another great video, Jerry! It’s getting closer, and more and more exciting. I am curious how you will get that one degree or so, neck angle. The neck is beautiful in its natural color, IMHO.

[@DAVIDBrown-zp8sz]

Time for a new song " The Filler Blues "

[@Mulgy]

Great video as always, really loving how this guitar is taking shape. For me i would go with the light colored neck, really looks good. I must say though it was horrifying to see what you were using to spread the grain filler, those Martin picks are the best picks i have ever used and they are really hard to find in Scotland lol. Keep up the good work, will be looking forward to the next video :)

[@RosaStringWorks]

I've got plenty of them if you want to pay the shipping I'll send you some.

[@Mulgy]

That's a very generous offer, do you have the heavy ones and do you have any idea what would the postage be?

[@curtisvonepp9716]

Try any of the Epoxys out there for grain fill and be done with it!.the peroxide hardner type is quickest.

[@RosaStringWorks]

I bought some z-poxy but people are telling me that it doesn't work very well.

[@EmbelekoBand]

Loved the music in the background. Especially the first one that I can't even pronounce the title. Lol The neck is looking great. If it was for me I would like it the way it is without any tint or paint. I'm also curious on what router bit you're using. Ken asked first. That guitar is gonna be a beauty.

[@RosaStringWorks]

Honestly I don't recall what brand the router bit is. It's just a standard dovetail router bit. It has a half inch shank to fit the collet in the router.

[@danawheeler6517]

I think any filler that cures by evaporation will shrink and require multiple applications. So that leads you to resin products like epoxy that cure by chemical reaction and fill pores easier. Of course that may have longer cure times and cleanup issues. Life is trade offs.

[@bullwhipjohnson8247]

Hello Jerry. I just saw a video this morning from John O'Brien Guitars. Luthier Tips Du Jour Mailbag 84 KZbin channel. He demonstrates a product called ZPoxy on rosewood. I thought it might give you something to try or experiment with for next time. He just uploaded this morning August 20.

[@RosaStringWorks]

I thought I mentioned that I bought z-poxy in the video. Just haven't used it yet. So someone told me that z-poxy doesn't work much better either

[@neilmacke4039]

Hi great show 😎 would thin superglue work as saw someone filling an ebony fretless fingerboard with it for a super shiny finish? Cheers

[@walterrider9600]

thank you . how did you set the angle on the neck ?

[@63vetteman]

Nice job Doc!! Just a thought, have you tried using a damp cloth & hot iron to swell the grain and sand before applying the filler? I know clock makers sometimes use that technique to get a glass like surface. What has the customer decided for fretboard & bridge? Thx for the video updates.

[@RosaStringWorks]

Thanks but I have tried that more than once actually.

[@davidsims1329]

You are braver than me.

[@andrewreynolds2647]

Great job Jerry, what a pain in the a--e on the filler front , i agree with you with todays technology this should be a no brainer, just extra work extra time and more cash, what is the answer ? Great job as per your usual thoroughly enjoyed this video as always. Stay well my friend and thanks for all your hard work. Peace and Love from Bonny Scotland.

[@JD-iu3vi]

I like to use plaster of paris as a wood filler.

[@drumgerry]

I don't think there's a grain filler on the planet that will fill the grain in one coating Jerry to be honest. I commented previously that I use Zpoxy finishing resin and it will fill your grain - it will however take 2 or 3 applications to do so. Robbie O'Brien has just uploaded a video on how he uses Zpoxy so it might be worth checking that out. It is also much harder to sand than the Aquacoat you used here. I'll follow your progress with interest and all the best from Scotland!

[@100amps]

Hand routing a dovetail... Damn! I don't have the stones to try that.

I thought the same thing - heck, I had problems just watching Jerry do it!

[@waynebrown1609]

looking great. i think not staining the neck would be a great idea.

[@jamesrobinson9494]

amazing banjo sound coming from a guitar neck amazing jk as always good work

[@demospam2]

While thinking about those pores and filling them. Wouldn't a slow curing CA glue work? Just pour the deal and spread it with a credit card or pick? I mean, if you want to veneer the headstock, apply to said piece before shaping and gluing, sand it down until its smooth and nice and it would work ( I suppose?).

[@rickatica]

Little question for you, what would be the best way to remove the neck on a classical guitar, in need of a reset bad.

[@mandolinman2006]

I'd be happy with a filler that works and doesn't make the wood look artificial. I'm just curious how it'll route out for the inlay. I've never tried paduak but have some other rosewoods and had issues with it feathering on the edges. I'm curious if paduak does the same and if this would help prevent that.

[@RosaStringWorks]

It routes pretty good but can Splinter if you're not careful.

[@douglasmorrison9098]

You spoke about the Martin Profile on the neck head but I actually like the Gibson profile better

[@3MonkeysGarage]

There are 3 things that have eluded man's technical abilities thus far. 1 a coffee pot that pours without spilling, 2 a smooth transition from road to bridge and 3. a good grain filler that does what it is supposed to.

[@LUCKYB.]

Next time your wife gos to the fabric store have her pick you up a couple 3 silver pencils easy to clean up and shows your lines 10 xs better .. I use them in cutting and working down knife handles Best friend a Luther and a knife maker ever Had a file and a scraper . Lightly burn the neck and sand it to s semi dark .

[@BoudreauGuitars]

Been waiting for this ! What’s that router bit called? Beautiful work, Jerry!

[@willmorrison1022]

He's using a dovetailing bit.

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

www.rockler.com/freud-dovetail-router-bits

[@geemac7267]

Do you remember seeing Scatter Lee's build thread on using egg whites for grain filler at the MLP forum? Ever tried that?

[@willmorrison1022]

I never have, though I've read about it. They used to do that a lot in far earlier times. It sounds disgusting. I think I'll stick with the 3 lb cut of shellac that I have had really good luck with.

[@allanragnarsson5929]

I think it´s worth trying wet sand the wood with this Aqua sealer...... try use 220 sandpaper let it dry and sand it again........

[@RosaStringWorks]

Whenever I've tried anything like that in the past it just builds up to on the Sandpaper so fast that it makes the same paper a moot point in about 2 seconds.

[@allanragnarsson5929]

Yes I know about that problem, usually that happens, I do a bit of Gun stock work, and it´s pain in the x to fill the grain :) ...... problem with epoxy that it runs everywhere but it fills the grain. And if you have to add color to the wood you have to do it before you poxy ! Thank you a lot for you channel love it :)

[@HBSuccess]

Jerry dumb question but is the neck joining the body at the 12th fret or the 14th? Great vid as always! PS YOU ARE BRAVE cutting that dovetail w/o a template and guide bearing/bushing. I bought the LMI mdf template but have not used it yet. I'm a fan of templates and supports - I've ruined a ton of stuff with my router tipping or slipping etc good templares take the fear away LOL

[@RosaStringWorks]

14th fret. I guess I'm just Fearless.

[@colinricgmailcom]

Respectfully, can I suggest locking machine heads... I use them on all of my guitars. It makes changing strings much quicker and better intonation.

[@thebigswede1736]

33:00 They can put a man on the moon. . .

[@RosaStringWorks]

Almost said that

[@thebigswede1736]

Rosa String Works I've only filled 1 guitar. I used z-poxy on Indian rosewood. It'll be interesting to see what you think about it on padauk.

[@thebigswede1736]

FYI here is Robbie O'Brien video using z-poxy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKCXioFurNl2nKc

[@budandbean1]

Jerry. Again, you say it’s sad we can’t come up with a better filler. I wasn’t going to comment on any of this until your very last statement. Until you try the SIMTEC product, you really shouldn’t say that they aren’t worth a darn. It works perfectly and is simple to use. It’s there, if you decide not to use it, that’s your issue. Oh, by the way, Dane Nichols is now using it, look what he says about it...

[@RosaStringWorks]

So you're saying it will fill in one application? I've searched eBay and Amazon and can't find it. I search Google and found a gallon of something called simtec sanding sealer and it's almost $100. Quite a bit to spend on a test when I'm not sure it's going to work any better than the dozens of other products I've tried. Do you have a link to what you're referring to?

[@budandbean1]

You can’t get it from Amazon or EBay that I know of. It’s available only on their site. Http://www.simteccoatings.com . If you are interested in watching someone use it, Texas Toast Guitars has been doing a complete set of finishing videos on their KZbin channel. You can see the 28x50 EZ Sanding Sealer in action there if you like. I’ve only purchased it in gallons and only asked about gallons but It seems to me they had smaller amounts, all you have to do is call them and ask.

[@budandbean1]

By the way, no I didn’t mean to say you would be done in one application, I’ve gotten it to fill in one application but then after sanding to level it, you will need to hit it with another application. Here is the Texas Toast video, it might explain more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIqTh3uYfZl6jK8

[@thomastommy1192]

Why not find some type of stiff shiny plastic for that headstock? Thats the way Martins Custom Shop does it. Jerry, What is the name & model of your new calber? Where can I buy one? Great video thanks for sharing. I hope you have a Blessed Week.

[@thomastommy1192]

Thank you so much for responding to my post. Do you know the brand & model number on the one Jerry has?

[@christerwestlund7571]

👍👌💪

[@michaeladamcaira9174]

Leave the neck light ,natural ,finish it with Tung oil

[@dennisdorey1327]

Jeerry - you should write a song "there aught to be a better filler"

[@narbonneguitars9331]

Thats the stuff i used told to me about by a repairman his wife is a nail artist...its acrylic ....im curios ...have you studied luthiery or was this a hobby before all that you do now?....i aspire to build an acoustic ...built many thinline custom semihollow guitars. its the bending of side panels on acoustics from going all in...i build entirely by hand no power tools ...your custom acoustic is stunning looking so far ...im jealous...lol.....an seen staight up. Hyde glue used to grain fill with ultra fine sawdust...

[@PlayingCatStevens]

ColorTone Clear Grain Filler?

[@michaeladamcaira9174]

Try credit card blanks,I use them

[@omanutwithmisterg4790]

Amateur question, but out of curiosity: Why does a rounded heel on the dovetail make more sense than a square? Like 90’s at the bottom instead of a curve? I would think if it fit well the corners would lock. Again, this may be a dumb question...

[@alexandersagnella3056]

What kind of scraper is that?

[@RosaStringWorks]

I just use a standard cabinet scraper. I sharpen one side and then use a burnishing tool to curl The Edge over and scrape with the curled Edge.

[@1980bwc]

Hang in there Mr. Jerry. You'll find a filler worth a dern one of these days. Lol

[@kft590]

Zpoxy is good but it takes about 3 hours to dry.

[@johnnybx3254]

Zpoxy might work

[@RosaStringWorks]

I bought some just haven't tried it yet. Though someone commented that it doesn't work much better.

[@garym1550]

IF you do enough of this operation, why haven't you made a router template?

[@RosaStringWorks]

I have them but I don't really like them.

[@swabbievet]

Using the word "filler" in such a product is misleading. They should call is a "Virtual Filler". Heck of a job on that dovetail. Wow!!!

[@darrellblanchard2362]

Aqua coat smells like acrylic latex paint

[@RosaStringWorks]

To me it had a stronger smell than that and it actually was kind of a sickening smell to me.

[@marineman2298]

Well, that's a new one. I've heard 'If we can put a man on the moon why can't we have good cell phone coverage?" and "If we can put a man on the moon why can't we make longer lasting batteries?".....can't say that I have ever heard "If we can put a man on the moon why can't we make a good grain filler?"

[@blackbirdpie217]

Your job is to invent a filler formula that fills in one application. Good luck to you.

[@buckhorncortez]

You're over working the filler. I just did a 28 x42 inch walnut table top with ONE coat of wood filler - all of the grain is filled. You need to figure out the best direction for the filler - I use 90 degrees to the grain for most wood. But, for the wood you're using 45 degrees might be better. For a small area like you were doing - put the filler on a bit heavier and just go across the wood one or two times. The more you work the filler, the more you'll pull it back out of the grain. For the walnut table top, I went 90 degrees to the grain and then worked the filler in with burlap in a circular motion. You need to have a visible coating of filler on the wood so that you're sanding throught the filler to the wood's surface. If you're using a water-based wood filler, you need to wet the wood surface first and let it dry - then sand to 240 before filling. If you don't do that, the wood will be opening up and expanding due to the water in the wood filler - making the grain larger. By constantly fiddling with the filler and trying to get it as thin as possible, you're defeating the purpose of the filler by pulling it back out of the wood pores. Honesly, I'd love to visit your shop and show you how to use wood filler. I'm betting you'd say, "Well, that was easy."

[@hulaguitar]

Seems like the pick was a good applicator but not so good as a squeegee. If you used a larger edged tool like a credit card in one pass at 45degrees it might work better.

[@RosaStringWorks]

They recommend using a plastic credit card in the directions

[@maialopes7352]

You must press that stuff into the pores of the wood. Need a better tool than a pick todo this.

[@joemcgraw5529]

must be banjo players with the thumbs down, joke but how can you do that with a guy that can build his own guitar ? jealous obviously

[@rogersadler4989]

you can't beat shellac

[@williamjarman7466]

Keep the neck natural