#23 LEAVING FACEBOOK - KENT BECK | Being Human

[@KrasuskiMaciej]

Thanks a million. One of the best conversation i heard for a long time.

[@tr233]

Kent Beck is lovable guy!

[@CrapE_DM]

He owns more guitars (and guitar-like instruments) than I've ever touched.

[@Achrononmaster]

I wish I could tell Kent that doing more social programming need not be such an emotional drain. The key is to find someone you love to work with, and do not even attempt to socially program with an asshole or someone you just do not like hanging out with, no matter how awesome they are at coding.

[@abj136]

and if you work at a company and this isn’t your choice?

[@tibordigana2551]

I also have a problem with the structure as whole in Scrum, all these managers. I think we all agree that s/w development companies need to have another defined control model with very narrow structure of management. Having businessman, analytic, architect is even better than any ego of manager.

[@DimaDesu]

Fantastic interview. Great ideas!

[@janpellegrims]

1:25 : "The guitars, oh yeah, sure, hard to avoid them." In the end: they were not talked about :-)

[@dafyddrees2287]

20:14 "You're getting me in trouble here Richard" - It's not Kent that's in trouble.

[@arulprakash8806]

28:17 exactly what's on my mind

[@DavidRodenas]

What happened with the Scrum Master in Catalonia, is that the word Master became meaningless. So, it is not problem to someone got certificate on Scrum Master, because, that is meaningless. Specially because here usually Scrum Master (certificate) means Project Manager that imposes and micromanages deadlines and deliveries. To be honest, I knew some exceptions, but they are exceptions.

[@MPXVM]

Is KZbin trying to tell me something recommending me this video? :D

[@abj136]

They are trying to tell you to watch more videos.

[@shantanushekharsjunerft9783]

@9:49 "Is this a cussing podcast or not cussing podcast?"

[@IsmaelPoteau]

Drop the "r" in scrum.

[@kode4food]

There's a banjo in the background. I've completely lost all respect for Kent

[@foad-esad]

ASM --- roflmao.

[@turbdonkey]

Sheep-dunking!

[@pescadorbrent]

@@andymarks5857 I never heard the term. So, the term is meant to indicate that you innoculated yourself against poorer forms of programming that might lead to a diseased project or delivery pipeline.

[@nonsensefactory6170]

I like what this guy has to say and basically agree with his points - but I am the only one getting a real Walter White / Breaking Bad flashback? “Like you’re going to come into my lab and tell me how to run my operation? No. That’s just not going to work.”

[@gygabytes]

yeah.. from someone that coined extreme "social" programming, it seems there is a bit of social skills lacking with that approach... we all need to manage expectations... that's not managing, that's shutting down expectations.. wonder why extreme programming never took off.. now you know...

[@RosanaRuFer]

55:37 haha! I usually have a smaller attention span but this episode was great.

[@carlosgarcialalicata]

Can anyone help me with the english in here, what does it means "I can get stewed?" (22:10)

[@richardcoppin5332]

The reason why we keep on coming back to the same processes our artefacts: design documents, etc is that the purple holding the purse strings want these things. The also like the ceremony, because the work theatre makes it seem that they're spending their money on something tangible.

[@Achrononmaster]

Is this a case of over-hyped buzzwords letting the side down? By any objective reasonable measure what Kent pioneered was not "Extreme programming", it was merely *social programming*. Might not sound as sexy, but imho an accurate description tends to survive better than hype.

[@MarcusWiderberg]

At the time, I would say his choice of label was IMO actually more "punk"/revolt and detrimental to acceptance, than helping it. Less Gartner hype, more grassroots. XP came out during the heyday of RUP. My initial feeling at the time, was that it was some crazy american, that did not want to do things "seriously". There is actually a reasoning behind the label. Not sure whether XP will survive better or not than say SD, JSD, OOD, DSDM, Crystal, RUP / UP or scrum - and what that depends on...

[@abj136]

He also pioneered Test Driven Development, which is not about social.

[@codewkarim]

This is so philosophical that I love it, this talk is in the realm of the intelligible world, I just love it! We need more of that...

[@RichardKingDoesOne]

Brilliant - thank you Abdelkrim.

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[@nigelagilebear]

Job title is ScrumMaster - Not the level of learning in the workshop. I think Kent forgot that. As we've seen since then, the word "Master" was not the key selling point that Kent seems to think it was. Or even the word "Certified" - Surprisingly! The content sold. But alas, Techys think a few sales words somehow cons the universe. Reality isn't like that. XP lost for interesting reasons, that we still don't fully understand but need to discuss more - But the simple hero techy vs villain business people positioning of Kent is naive and wrong.

[@RichardKingDoesOne]

Interesting - personally, I believe yes of course the content sold, but I believe the idea that 'oh this person is certified, therefore I can outsource my thinking and change work to them' is part of the buyer mentality that Scrum plays into..