23 Reasons Horizon Forbidden West Is Better Than Horizon Zero Dawn Already-HORIZON FORBIDDEN WEST 4K

[@purplepothos5794]

One reason why Zero Dawn is better than Forbidden West: We won't be able to experience the world of Horizon for the first time again and witness how awesome a character Aloy grows into.

[@picklebeanjuice5526]

Actually with new environments and such you can pretty much re experience the world in its glory

[@Sparkball]

Well it’s a new zone so…..

[@Gamer4FunYt]

horizon zero dawn is the best game i have ever played after rdr2

[@JXHNDRX]

@@Gamer4FunYt wow

[@Gamer4FunYt]

@@JXHNDRX 😂

[@BigBadMadDog.]

The gameplay and graphics will no doubtedly be better, however it's going to be hard to beat HZD's story. The mystery of unravelling the history of the world and the old ones was done incredibly well.

[@DaghfalTheFool]

In HDZ we only saw hades and haph something in frozen wiled DLC we still have to see more and restore GIGA

[@dragonsofthemind5161]

There's still SO MUCH we don't know so I don't think that'll be a problem. There are still 6 or 7 subordinate AI that could be lurking about (not including Hades) and speaking of them it's possible we could learn more about what caused the Faro Plague and what caused the subordinate AI to become sentient. It's heavily hinted that both were caused by the same thing and those storms look A LOT like what we see in HZD that caused the Faro Plague/sentient subordinate AI. On top of that, I have a feeling we're going to learn more about Sylens which is a big mystery I think HZD kept in the dark purposefully to expand upon in Forbidden West.

[@Digletdiggy]

I hope that crazy bastard in Zero Dawn who drinks machine oil will be in this game. And Nil, him too.

[@BiednyMisiu]

Not sure about Nil, as there was an option to kill him in HZD, so it wouldn't make sense for him to be alive again.

[@ifyouarereadingthisthenyou7666]

@@BiednyMisiu no HFW team said that all the characters will be there and doenot depend on what options you have chosen in ZD

[@wielkigrzesiek2836]

I hope so because Nil was one of the most interesting characters and I fucking loved that guy

[@FrenchYeast]

The machine blood drinker are going to be here, because that is where their tribe resides, as specified in the Forbidden West thing a Carja wrote~

[@Phreemunny]

Brin and Nil were easily the two best characters in the game, aside from Aloy and Sylens

[@coling3957]

apart from obvious upgrades in graphics etc.. really the thing that needs improving a LOT is the potions, health etc .you're in a battle and trying to scroll through loads of traps and potions to get to health, potions for fire or freeze protection etc. too many things you dont need for situation

[@thecocktailian2091]

Sounds like you were trying to have all 31 flavors at Baskin Robins. I never had this trouble as I planned things out ahead of time and knew the absolute necessary shit I needed and that which was just extra extra.

[@coling3957]

@@thecocktailian2091 you can scroll to an item you think you will need .. but it doesnt change fact that you have all items but the layout isn't right and you cant select a mini wheel lets say of a few things you'll need most likely from upcoming encounter. i don't see why they put traps in with potions for example. they could separate those ..

[@Jack_80]

they could add the option for a mini wheel where you hold down to access the wheel and just tap down to quickly use an item. i only ever use mainly high potions and whistling so i never really had a problem with it. i never once used an elemental protection potion.

[@claytoncummings4195]

I always dropped all of my unnecessary items. I never used the traps. I would sell all of them. And threw all my rocks away. Made it easier. But I do agree.

[@ps4games164]

I'm not seeing the obvious upgrade in graphics and I have a sharp eye. I don't know about you.

[@rebeccawade7598]

The cover in Zero Dawn is destructible in a lot of the major battles. *spoilers* when you go to find Olin at the extraction site, there are lots of rock walls that the corruptors will destroy as you hide behind -- same thing in the final fight with the Deathbringer. I'm glad they're extending it and hopefully using that more, but it IS already a feature

[@thelastheraldofmarvelcomic1981]

You can use the Broadhead mount to ram rocks etc. I'm surprised ppl don't realise this.

[@JJsiN84]

I was about to point that out as well, entire trees and boulders will come down with those damn rock breakers and thunderjaws stomping and smashing everything around them.

[@delebrontezebulonjones2196]

...as I discovered while standing on a rock tryin to avoid a...wait for it...rockbreaker

[@Sondergirl1610]

Not just major battles , any wierd boulder or rock in the open world can most likely be crushed by a thunderjaw or rockbreaker

[@envoyofrot7046]

I love the new Spear Combos and improved combat vs. humans. That was my biggest issue with the first game and they really did a good job on that

[@pogtuber5146]

Yeah the developers were really torn as to whether or not they wanted human combat in the first game, and I guess they realized a bit late that they kinda needed it. So the implementation, while it works, does feel a bit rushed and incomplete and simple.

[@jajasking9652]

Yeah, that's a issue of the base Game, and if they imprve the secundarys ( that there are repetitive af ) this Game Will be 10/10

[@AlvaroMadFox]

my biggest was terrible side quests . mele was bad but not critical

[@jajasking9652]

@@AlvaroMadFox yeah, side cuestions are repetitive as fuck, i was done all of them because the Gameplay is super funny, but the structure is literally a copy-paste

[@Phreemunny]

I actually cried a little when I found out Erend has a focus. Such a great character; great to have him back

[@Phreemunny]

@Danny Rand -what’s wrong with Aloys FW iteration?

[@Jack_80]

@@Phreemunny aloy's model as a child in the first game is weird, her head is too big. her head is almost double the size as a normal kid. in her child sections in the beginning of the game all i can think about is how huge that head is.

[@verminscum]

@@Jack_80 and her hair,, was huge and not really a style a child would have at that age lmao. too thick and long

[@stevenpiquette6055]

You cried? It's just a game

[@cjz2883]

@@Jack_80 probably why she got smacked with a rock so easily. Poor girl lmao

[@wipplewopple1876]

Zoe: Underwater is somewhere you'll want to explore Me: You say that, but SnapMaws were the only beasts I ever wanted to avoid, so I dunno know about going into their territory...

[@MrMBinder]

At least they don't have that horrible Longleg scream

[@thecocktailian2091]

I didnt mind the Snapjaws. But I generally went to lengths to avoid almost all machines. That said, If they get suped up underwater, they will be terrifying.

[@AndreaTay89]

I avoided them and any flying machines!

[@cjz2883]

I mostly tried to avoid stalkers as they can be annoying. Snapjaw can be easily killed if you climb up somewhere

[@cjz2883]

@@AndreaTay89 only the stormbird, glinthawks are killed easily with fire arrows

[@zyonhenderson67]

I love the revamped Melee combat. If they give it the same love as the bow then this will change up the playstyles significantly

[@AuroraXA]

Horizon Zero Dawn had plenty of recognizable ruins. The Air Force Academy, the statue in Colorado Springs, Red Rocks Amphitheater, even an I25 highway sign. The landmarks in San Francisco are different but HZD wasn't just generic in the least.

[@Jack_80]

the cauldrons in the first game gave me a serious matrix vibe.

[@AuroraIchimaru]

Possible Spoiler: The DLC is in Yellow Stone National Park

[@AuroraXA]

Yep, it is.

[@stevieblunder2656]

Haven't been very hyped for that many games, recently...but I'll be damned if I'm not hyped for this. HZD surprised me by becoming one of my favorite games of all time last gen, and the sequel looks fire already.

[@Phreemunny]

I knew I was going to like HZD, but I had no idea I would love it so much I ended up playing through on ultra hard 4 times. This game was so amazing to me, despite the uncanny valley cut scenes and lack-luster melee. Hearing any news about HFW literally bring tears to this grown-ass man’s eyes

[@Jack_80]

i don't even have a ps5 yet, this is the first game that really makes me want a ps5. re8 looks just like 7, limited enemy variety and just not that interesting to me. if i had a ps5 i probably would have got it bit but tired with it quickly, horizon looks like a game i wouldn't get tired of any time soon.

[@GeorgHaeder]

11:25. They ruins in HZD were also quite distinctive, the US Air Force Academy, the Pikes Peak Range Riders Memorial both in Colorado Springs, The Redrock Amphitheater, Eagle Canyon, Monument Valley, Bridal Veil Falls, The Colorado Springs Pioneers Museum, Lake Powell, Sunfall is in Bryce Canyon National Park.

[@Noctis425]

Guessing you traveled if you know all those important locations lol

[@issackaiser]

I’m surprised someone could even name all that locations. I could barely even remember all the Nora villages name 🤣

[@GeorgHaeder]

@@Noctis425 True, I travelled a lot during the last 30 years.

[@colinfiggins3372]

Dang, that's a cool list! Plus the expansion had Yellowstone caldera

[@sentientmustache8360]

And Yellowstone park

[@captainbritain7379]

I can tell that Zoe loves making these Horizon videos, and I am so here for it.

[@olegoleg258]

Well, actually, to be honest, armor bits were highlited when you hit them in zero dawn as well. However since some armor parts were small and the glow would not last a very long time it was easy to miss it

[@steveNCB7754]

Still wondering how they’re going to handle player progression. In HZD, you played Aloy from ‘green’ Rookie, to seasoned hunter (accumulating skills, weapons, armour, etc as you went). So how will you start in the HFW? Will we effectively have to go through that all over again, or will we get a sort of minimal set of ‘stuff’ this time. Will feel a bit weird continuing the story, but with less than you had at the end of the previous instalment, but on the other hand, you might be playing this new one, having not played the first one anyway I suppose (so they have to cater for that).

[@SwordTune]

Probably a base set of skills that roughly represents where the player would have been at the end of ZD. On top of that, of Aloy has been traveling, she would haved used up, lost, or left behind some of her old gear. New tools need new training.

[@zacharyblain1492]

maybe in the middle of traveling there will be the start mission where she gets into a mess and losses her stuff and then maybe gets rescued or make it to a village. that's why she has new armor in the gameplay

[@AdamLeuer]

In the opening scene Aloy gets bonked in the head with a giant mallet.

[@PonTran194]

In this gameplay premiere, I guess there will be somekind of upgrade skill from ability attack while gliding, more special melee combat, or maybe they did re-invent based on craft instead of normal upgrade (like in TloUp2, there still upgrade but minor and effectively on base skills).

[@stephaniewilson8706]

Naturally something will happen at the beginning of the game that results in Aloy losing all her equipment

[@shuja.j]

I'm looking forward to what kind of secret armor we can unlock this time, like the shield weaver outfit in Zero Dawn. Also I hope we can also unlock secret weapons this time as well, and have them be really unique and different looking to the other weapons

[@keith1314]

There actually is a 2 in the horizon forbidden west title. Just need to look a little bit harder

[@crispykith]

can't see that

[@clava7851]

Well, it’s technically called horizon 2 forbidden west. Which kinda sounds like “Horizon: to forbidden west”

[@ryanbrandt3374]

Hori2on forbidden west

[@numflo8218]

@@clava7851 Is it? Have the developers confirmed that?

[@clava7851]

@@numflo8218 no, just realized that on my own. And the logo has a 2 in it but I’m II form kinda.

[@sofiakaos5278]

hmmm... in HZD there is a ton of old ruins with many machines from the old ones, also many many carefully written stories that we can read and listen to and some of them are beautifully sad!

[@Isabelle-hv6ny]

I hope we find more datapoints in Forbidden West

[@lefttoDIE567]

Out of everything in the game the lore is where it’s at for me

[@hexshadowman]

Aloy is best girl. We are all in agreement.

[@ps4games164]

no

[@tesstickle6974]

@@ps4games164 yes

[@solabis]

Hopefully will be able to customise quick item bar this time, was ridic in hzd either having to cycle through dozens of similar looking icons to find what you need during a fight or just sell everything but health potions so i never used traps 🤷

[@DJWeapon8]

I don't know why they didn't just make another weapon wheel, but for items instead of bows. It'd have the same properties and mechanics as the weapon wheel. You can manually assign what item goes into what slot. It slows down time when viewing the item wheel. Allows you to craft additional items by holding triangle. To bring the item wheel up, hold L1 and press down d-pad. To use an item, press R3. To return to the weapon wheel, hold L1 and press left on the d-pad. L1+right d-pad can be something else. Traps, maybe?

[@Jack_80]

@@DJWeapon8 or just hold down on the dpad to open the item wheel, just tap it to quickly use an item the old way. holding down would be easier than opening the weapon wheel then pressing down to change to the item wheel.

[@DJWeapon8]

@@Jack_80 Unless you know how to claw. Holding down d-pad requires you to *stop moving.* Theres also going to be a *delay* for the game to recognize if you're holding down d-pad to bring up the item wheel and *slow down time.* In short. Holding down d-pad would make the game harder from an ergonomics standpoint.

[@Jack_80]

@@DJWeapon8 really i think the way in the first game is fine, they just need to let you choose the order of items and let you remove the items you don't use.

[@DJWeapon8]

@@Jack_80 I disagree. The scroll speed is slow. You don't see what the next items are. You can't quick craft items using only the d-pad. And 9/10 people need to take their hand off of movement to scroll through items making them even more vulnerable. The best way I can think of that'll not compromise ergonomics and gameplay is: Hold L1 to access weapons, potions, and traps wheels. Accessing the wheels slows down time. While holding L1: *Left d-pad* is for weapons. *Right d-pad* is for gadgets. *Down d-pad* is for potions. Select the weapon/item with R stick and *press R3* to confirm. The User Interface shows the currently selected weapons, gadgets, and potions on a cross formation (like the first game) on the lower left corner. *Up as Medicine Pouch.* *Left as Weapon.* *Right as Gadget.* *Down as Potion.* Each wheel has multiple slots. Each slot can be manually assigned to hold a specific weapon/gadget/potion in their respective wheel in the *menu.* Each wheel also allows quick crafting of ammo/gadgets/potions by selecting the slot with desired weapon/gadget/ammo and *holding X.* While idle: *Left d-pad* to draw/holster currently selected weapon. (Simply for immersion purposes. Holding L2 immediately draws and aims the weapon.) *Right d-pad* uses the currently selected gadget. *Down d-pad* uses the currently selected potion. *Up d-pad* uses the Medicine Pouch.

[@andrewtheguy6190]

Almost finished playing HZD, with the ps5 60fps HZD is absolutely amazing. Stealth could be better but that’s a nitpick and I love the lore, never was a time I didn’t want to know more.

[@ps4games164]

Did you find the Shield Weaver armour? If you don't, check in youtube how to find it. Its worth the time.

[@andrewtheguy6190]

@@ps4games164 Yea I sure did. Kinda made the game too easy lol but even doing that was fun

[@firefox144]

@@andrewtheguy6190 Lmao on my current play through I glitched the shield weaver stuff early so I'm going through the main campaign with end game armor. it's so overpowered

[@andrewtheguy6190]

@@firefox144 😂Yea I was streaming and had to up the difficultly but even then man it was too overpowered

[@firefox144]

@@andrewtheguy6190 it's so overpowered, honestly I kinda hope they don't have it in forbidden west, armor just makes the game way too easy

[@JJsiN84]

I just hope they change the UI so it’s much easier to access your traps, resistance potions, and healing potions. My God it was such a nightmare to have to press left or right on the D pad many many times before you landed on what you were going for.

[@delebrontezebulonjones2196]

Unload all the resistance potions and traps, they're just clutter

[@EverydayKindaGuy]

Just started playing HZD on PC recently. OMG, not sure why I waited so long. SUCH a good game. I do enjoy a good stealth run, being a fan of the original Thief game, it amuses me greatly going through a bandit camp unnoticed taking out bandits either close range or snipe. Also, late to this video, just like the game.

[@abigailturner1776]

Enjoy HZD! Don't rush though; you can only play HZD for the first time once. It's got a great story.

[@Supersoonic]

Yooo, I totally agree with you it's awesome!

[@Kingtoby1981]

This would be 2021 GOTY if it comes out this year

[@Sparkball]

Yup

[@marksullivan00]

Indeed.

[@Phreemunny]

It will be GOTY whenever it is released

[@marksullivan00]

@@Phreemunny Question, will it also be on the PS4? Or will it just be a PS5 exclusive?

[@Kingtoby1981]

@@Phreemunny God of War or Zelda will win it in 2022

[@malcolmpeake8893]

I can't wait to play it.

[@briankinney3140]

Love this game but I hope the world is more varied and more secrets and outfits and shops and stuff, not the same stuff in every town or city or settlement and just a bunch of filler but more interaction.more robots and enemies. Would be cool to change ur hair some and colors for slots hair to make the character more unique for each player

[@ronaldmorris1462]

The aspect of a possible melee build excites me a little. Personally would keep it balanced myself but I always use my spear when it comes to people

[@tyleroutland435]

I hope the workbenches are similar to how last of us 2 did because I love the work bench mechanics from Last of us 2

[@allisonstone2584]

quick theory i had while playing hzd, so there's one sidequest were you get machine blood for this guy and he tells you stories which actually fit with the lore, how corruptors work and the reason the thunderclaw exists, then he says something about the forbidden west and about the red stuff thats making the living creatures die and then he mentions aloy's death and it scares me.

[@ahadgamera4340]

name of the side quest?

[@Yggdrasil42]

He's quite cryptic but says some interesting things. What's your theory?

[@allisonstone2584]

@@Yggdrasil42 my thoughts currently are that either aloy dies in forbidden west or she gets sick by the red stuff but recovers , since if it can affect animals of course it can affect humans. I really hope she survives the game tho cause she’s a well fleshed out character.

[@thesandboxtramp]

What made Horizon Zero Dawn stand out was the dark and thrilling truth about the fall of mankind you got to uncover as you progressed, and the way this grim past was translated into the world design. I don't think you can repeat something like that in a sequel, so I don't think that sequel should be made. Most sequels to well written story-driven games end up feeling like a massive side mission to the first game. I hope I'm wrong though...

[@AKS-666]

Yes, exactly my thoughts…

[@annasahlstrom6109]

I know it's going to be good! I can't afford the PS5 and have no room for another game system, so I hope the PS4 version is good.

[@nielsjensen4185]

I feel more and more convinced that I'll have to buy a PS5 because this game being in Exclusivity Jail for years might just drive me insane.

[@taylorb9860]

While climbing could’ve been better I think the devs deserve credit for the fact they at least enabled you to jump over/onto ALOT of different rocks by just spamming jump lol

[@yellowedpinkchickenbanana2341]

I just hope the storyline in HFW won’t be too thin, which has been the fate of many sequels in general. One of the key features that made HZD storyline unique and intriguing was about uncovering the past and finding out what exactly happened to humanity and why Earth is how it is now. Since all that (as far as we know) have already been explained in the first game, HFW might have to try quite hard to bring something new to its story.

[@dragonsofthemind5161]

I disagree. We're fighting against another extinction event in the story and if that's not interesting enough, I don't think it's a coincidence that red is being used for the storms and the blight when red was also the color of the lightning that caused the subordinate AI to gain sentience and go rogue (and it's *heavily* hinted that same thing caused the Faro Plague as well). On top of all that, we've got a bunch of subordinate AI unaccounted for and we still don't know a lot about Sylens. I think they're setting us up to learn about ALL that stuff.

[@MassiveHappyClapper]

As a PS5 owner I fully expect big titles to be held back in until they can get more consoles to people. Though the semi conductor shortage will affect this until around 2023. I expect a HFW delay for polish. On PS5 we will also have to get used to cross over games for a while yet because the money is not there in PS5 only games, again due to lack of ownership numbers in the PS5. That explains why exclusives are £70. They need the money. Edit: after the State of Play this confirms my theory to be correct and expect delays to big games now more than ever

[@thebrazenbull8765]

Forbidden West is supposed to be coming this year and GOW next year

[@danielsmid3777]

Horizon Forbiden West is a ps4 game

[@Sparkball]

@@danielsmid3777 PS4 and 5

[@numflo8218]

Ratchet and clank, Returnal, Demon's souls are all PS5 exclusives. I think you're forgetting that games have been around £60 for decades. Even at £70 that's nowhere near what inflation would make them. If it did, games would be around £160 now. I don't think they need the money, they're just testing the waters.

[@MassiveHappyClapper]

@@thebrazenbull8765 It won't, it would be great if it did but no way.

[@redinteractive9732]

Hope this game win game of year..for Aloy

[@adakahless]

I'm more excited to see Erend in the sequel. He was my favorite supporting cast.

[@Aml-dr5oz]

the first one still will have the best reveal story wise. nothing can beat that.

[@shaynesaulnier]

I cant wait to play. I'm getting a ps5 and new tv just for it. I took a week off to play and enjoy it with no distractions. Also cant wait to see how errend and aloy's relationship stands

[@456death654]

Same, will be getting a ps5 just for this

[@Jack_80]

this is the first game that made me want a ps5 too. re8 looks like a huge disappointment from what i've seen.

[@pogtuber5146]

#14 seems... too soon to tell? I highly doubt this game is getting rid of dialogue options and repeated camera shots of talking back and forth with an NPC. HZD had cutscenes with more immersive conversations too so it's silly to assume that HFW is getting rid of NPC dialogue.

[@Luizanimado]

I just hope the game have more fun thing to do on the map, because the first one is basically a Robot kill simulator, there is nothing else to do, every mission is going to some place a kill some robots, and sometimes some humans

[@rbelson356]

That parachute thing is needed SO much in Zero Dawn!

[@thebutcherds4900]

HZD is good , But it could use some quality of life improvements , For example fixing the camera when Fighting a flying machine , Another example some puzzles I spent hours of trying to know where to go next just to find in s youtube video that the wall next to me can actually be climbed (Makers End) , Another thing I would like to see is better melee combat .

[@tyleroutland435]

I love horzion zero dawn and I'm excited for horzion forbidden west I hope it comes out at the end of the year though I hope I have a ps5 by the time the game comes out though

[@thebrazenbull8765]

It's scheduled for the end of the year so hopefully

[@ItsMeAndrewGD]

If the plan goes well then we can expect it by the end of the year if not mid 2022

[@tonipepperoni3424]

I'm excited for this, guardians of the galaxy and halo infinite

[@thecocktailian2091]

Dont expect to get a ps5 until mid to late 22

[@tyleroutland435]

@@thecocktailian2091 ☹

[@swayze_mane]

i havent been this excited for a game in years

[@st4r444]

-We need a weather system that affects aloy. Maybe rain increases thunder power, heat increases fire, etc. -Day and night affects animals you see and your stealth is better.

[@456death654]

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of that will actually happen and more

[@dragonsofthemind5161]

Day and night and weather affected stealth in the first game and this one seems to upgrade on a lot of stuff so I'd assume that would be similar.

[@anamariaapostol]

Aloy and Erend make a pretty good team.

[@xarfram]

I have a feeling that the difference between ZD and FW will be like the difference between Assassin's Creed 1 and 2; the first first game laid the foundation, but the sequel is the one that'll go down in history

[@thehoopinggamer9166]

That’s most sequels

[@thehoopinggamer9166]

Arkham city, uncharted 2, bioshock 2, mass effect 2,

[@Yggdrasil42]

HZD had an option to make the UI HUD vanish when not needed. That worked great and I wish they'd made it the default.

[@OnlyMichaelSparrow]

I never knew that. I love that

[@dragonsofthemind5161]

I'm glad they didn't make it the default. It's less accessible that way cuz a lot of people didn't/don't realize you could make the UI vanish like that in HZD and some people NEED the UI.

[@henryluebberstedt7819]

Hopefully there will be a PC version... HZD has been one of the 10 best games I've ever played in the last 20 years.

[@dogeburger5775]

It will probably come after a year or so on pc after it's ps5 release tho I am hoping they stop with this exclusivity bullshit especially when ps5 is nowhere to be found

[@avery4460]

@@dogeburger5775 theres ps4 versions as well, i think the ps5 just includes the pixels looking a little bit fresher, if thats not a big deal to you then i think the ps4 version will be just the same

[@fyfecraigie80]

@@avery4460 No, the adaptive triggers are also to be used for Bow strings

[@avery4460]

@@fyfecraigie80 yeah but for some people that isn’t really a big selling point, Both versions will be the exact same, one will just be more polished looking than the other

[@fyfecraigie80]

@@avery4460 Yeah pretty much, I think for anyone who can't afford/still can't get a PS5 by then the PS4 version will still be a beautiful game

[@wolfeler166]

One reason Forbidden West will be better is that it’s a newer more polished game with developers who know what they’re doing One reason Zero Dawn is better, it was just the beginning

[@raizelneki6662]

Finally they're putting more emphasis on weapon upgrading and on what parts you can upgrade.

[@The-Vitruvian-Man]

pretty much for every aspect--improved combat, new valor surge system, more traversal options, better enemy and friendly npc ai, more enemy variety, more custom builds, more weapons, improved visuals, underwater exploration

[@DMGamanda]

I used melee in zero dawn all the time and loved it, so it will be interesting to see it made even better

[@artdre1881]

Come on man so many melee games around one of the reason why Zero Dawn is so special because they made so great bow mechanics.

[@DMGamanda]

@@artdre1881 I didnt say I didn’t make use of the other weapons, I did and loved and had great fun using them all (and it’s gal not man btw 😊) I was just commenting on the videos assumption that most people wouldn’t be using the melee option in ZD but new mechanics in FW would poss change that. 😉

[@artdre1881]

@@DMGamanda fear enough

[@DMGamanda]

@@artdre1881 ??

[@tomislavpazitka6104]

My favorite weapon in HZD New Game Plus was perfected adept Stormslinger (with smart modifications) and using a spear whenever I got the chance. So, I hope we get some new version of Stormslinger or at least possibility to import from previous game and upgrade it furthermore! Without it; I could never play ultra hard version in a brave way with so much vulnerability. Enemy have guns and Aloy is much smarter than they are ,so she must have even better one

[@victorgabriel8658]

one thing that would be really cool, combining parts of armors with others, for example, shield weaver chest piece with an stealth suit under the armor or parts of the stealth suit with parts of the shield weaver

[@TheBobist]

Cover is destructible in zero Dawn as well. Trees, Stones... Etc. All the time. And there are 2 enemies in the game that can pick up aloy and throw her down

[@ashleycox8480]

The surge isn't a combo its a charge up move. The quick time event is a move that helps boost the charge of your surge up. The purple bar bottom right is the bar representing how charged it is. The discussed this all in the state of play so its not hard information to get

[@JustMyOpinion-]

Amazing game, probably one of the best open worlds I've ever played, where every enemy is like a boss fight I just hope they keep the music 😅

[@charleschucksantos]

They should put 10 fireclaws and 10 claws beneath at the beginning spawn area to welcome us LOL

[@Annur375]

I don't know if this was done on purpose or for another reason, but the globe presented on the ground did not show Florida, which is where I live. Great, absolutely GREAT graphics. Thanks for sharing, beautiful presentation.

[@pizzadog1690]

It might have been on purpose? It looks like a lot of places are under water

[@silverdragon4018]

Instantly clicked as always with these vids

[@Ploskkky]

I hope we get this one too on PC eventually. The first game was a wonderful experience.

[@dimitrisbam1132]

I still remember playing my Atari as a kid with 2 sprites fighting each other...can't believe where are we now

[@RyanGaming21]

I'm really excited for Horizon Forbidden West. I'm now level 115 and With 250 000 Metal shards on HZD 60$ is a bit too much for me tho

[@imapotato7891]

It’s 70$ on the ps5 which ah…………🥲

[@xenian89]

The first game had a 'I' (or 1) in the middle of the logo, in between the big HORIZON and the smaller Zero Dawn. This one has a 'II' (or 2) in the same spot, in between the big HORIZON and the smaller Forbidden West.

[@Luca_Talis]

Yeah, and I guess the third will have a III

[@BiednyMisiu]

Shit! You are right! Nice catch :) I did not see it

[@Sparkball]

I thought everyone knew this

[@AndreaTay89]

I can't wait for this game to come out! I plan on replaying HZD right before the new one comes.

[@SnoopVee]

Jesus this game is beautiful. I plan on engulfing myself in this game for HOURS!

[@glennmattsonjr.5251]

Cover was destructible in HZD, but I like the new traversal mechanics.

[@acemaxximus7175]

I hope there's other types of underwater machines such as sharks or octopi

[@xHedgehogX007]

Great video as always guys!, I personally loved the first horizon zero dawn however I’m shattered as I played number 1 on pc and Forbidden west is on ps5 only 🥺😖

[@ascend9879]

I used to think this was the case too, but it's actually not! It's for both Ps4 and Ps5!!

[@laniakea_0]

0:04 technically, it does have a 2 after it. look closely at the logo.

[@isaacswarts6826]

I’d like the ending cinematic to close with a shot of a bird of paradise landing next to Aloy.

[@dprice2813]

The curiosity of how robot machines were running around kept me going with HZD. Horizon forbidden west just seems like typical apocalyptic world ending story

[@Hyopomora]

I don’t see anyone talking about the map…. Do you think will have access to the areas we already been to? [nora-lands, banuk lands, carja etc.)addition to the forbidden west??

[@Atlas-pn6jv]

This game is the whole reason we got a PS5. These devs better deliver.

[@robertborosa3734]

I hope it will be playable on my PS4 slim

[@timur5241]

Don't get too excited. This game might turn out to be the biggest disappointment. Remember The Last Of Us 2, Watch Dogs Legion, latest Assassin's Creed games and Battlefield 2042 (different genre but still worth mentioning)? People were excited for those games too, and look how they've ended up. EDIT: Nevermind

[@bamban_garcia5562]

The Last Of Us Part 2 was not a "disappointment" to a lot of people even sold over 4 million copies in the first three days while breaking records Also a lot of people were excited for the likes of Watch Dogs Legion, Asscreed, Battlefield 2042 thanks in part of how publishers were promoting them, most consumers knew to be disappointed thanks to how said franchises have been handled before Many trust Guerrilla Games because they have delivered a great title since release with many looking forward to the sequel as a result of it

[@millietwist8474]

the soundtrack is killer, but imma miss that main theme tune of zero dawn

[@featuresnobodyaskedfor]

As long as it works, it's going to be an absolute banger.

[@Th4tG4m3rJJ]

Collectors edition secured 😎 160 days to go.

[@anamariaapostol]

I'll probably pre-order the game if the don't change the date in the last minute. I loved the first game and I still have a lot of side-quests to complete. I can't wait for the sequel. I loved Aloy so much in the first game. It's a unique game. The first game I played on a PS4 (last year I got myself my first PS4)

[@Zinfidel1]

Horizon ZD has a minimalist UI option. It's the only way to play.

[@donuts7687]

I don't really understand your starting statement cuz it's Horizon II: Forbidden West, of the Horizon franchise, the II is right below the Horizon in the whole title thingy at 1:00

[@dinomp4391]

One thing i think that HFW wont be major in is the storyline. HZD had possibly the best and most interesting story i have experienced. The enjoyment i had when unraveling secret after secret of the world will be near impossible to beat.

[@dragonsofthemind5161]

*Highly* unlikely. I see some of y'all say that and you're *really* missing the hints they're dropping if you think that. 1) Going more in depth about Sylens perhaps? Totally possible he's an antagonist in this one too as I believe they're hinting that Sylens is working with the antagonist tribe. Plus he has Hades and all he cares about is gaining knowledge. 2) Red lightning storms. Now what else was red lightning? 🤔 The thing that caused the Faro Plague and lead to the subordinate AI going rogue. Totally possible we could learn more about that. 3) Hades knew things only Apollo could have pre Ted purging it. Totally possible the data survived somehow. 4) Speaking of those two, we only know what happened to two or three of the subordinate AI post-sentience - we could discover others. HZD's story was interesting for sure, but it was also kinda obvious. There's not mutch that could lead to that level of degeneration in human society besides some apocalyptic or cataclysmic event. Plus advanced tech in a less advanced society is a dead give away. There were some twists and getting to explore futuristic ruins was really cool. But there are SO MANY more mysteries the Horizon world has to offer for story.

[@hierox4120]

The only thing I am quite certain of is that the development team won't be limited by the PS4's aging hardware.

[@thecocktailian2091]

While that is true, there are not going to be any giant leaps forward here. Kind of like going from a ten speed bike to a twelve speed.

[@numflo8218]

@@thecocktailian2091 What would you consider a giant leap?

[@thecocktailian2091]

@@numflo8218 Unfortunately a proper response could only be had over a twenty minute conversation. Simply, technology rocketed forward in the twentieth century, the 21st has seen a dramatic slow down.

[@numflo8218]

@@thecocktailian2091 Man that would be an interesting conversation. I love this kind of thing. I remember doing a paper on the evolution of video games and the technology involved through the generations etc. It would be too long to talk about though I get what you mean :)

[@ahmadsyauqi6485]

The first one was already beautiful😭😭😭😭😭😭,I love them😭😭😭😭😭,the detail,the game was so beautiful😭😭😭

[@aavishkarpayale3712]

Is it just me or somebody noticed that she didn't mention the orange bar above the purple bar which diminish as aloy makes her final blow on the tremer... Ugh robo mammoth

[@imperfectxennial3008]

Zero Dawn only has two things Forbidden West doesn’t: you start with a bigger health bar in Zero Dawn, and you don’t have to scan all the damn time to see resource indicators (that is annoying as hell). Other than that I do think Forbidden West is the superior game.

[@lisamenster3521]

Am I the only one who freaked out bcuz sylens got his lance back as you can see in the trailer and the master override is still connected to it??? And it looked like he's helping to corrupt some machines wtf.

[@SamMottaV]

They had me at the facial expressions being a thing in forbidden west

[@harrylonnen1140]

I focused on melee attacks in the first game, as it did more damage consistently than the bow did.

[@Death_by_Inches]

What? If you like the spear better then okay. But it doing more damage consistently is just not true. You must be playing on story mode where you one shot everything regardless. On the harder difficulty you can take down a thunderjaw in ten seconds.

[@bladerunner3314]

Well, let's see what I think of your listing ... 1. No, she's a brave, not a hunter. But more melee options are always nice. 2. is basically expanding on 1, lazy on your part. 3. Of course new weapons, let's just hope there won't be rather useless duds like the Ropecaster or the Rattler - yeah, yeah, yeah, some people love the Ropecaster, since they only can face an enemy when it's pinned down. Learn to aim, folks! 4. At least you can craft some other items on the fly. 5. Oh no, you had to be strategic in what loadout you had ... I hope you can customize the wheel in terms of what ammo is available. Happened so often I wanted Sharpshot Arrows just to select Harvest. 6. Guess some ammo replaces whole weapons like the Tripcaster is now a trap. 7. I also hope the AI gets smarter. 8. Massive rocks and trees probably still will be good cover. 9. Wonder if you can launch smoke bombs into a group and focus pinpoint them to take them out. 10. Sometimes it was just plain frustrating when she couldn't get up a ledge. 11. Pullcaster, or, let's copy Just Cause ... Unsure if this was really necessary. 12. And another layer of stuff to explore - let's hope you can also attack while diving. 13. Shieldwing, or, let's copy Breath of the wild ... well, at least my most common method of dying will be eliminated. Yes, I dropped more often to death than being killed by enemies. 14. One would hope the cinematics improve. 15. I assume you only see old machines in the first three hours of the game, then it's all new and as it seems, Hephaestus was busy. 16. Wasn't expect that ... maybe she took them out of all mother and equipped a boat load of people. 17. It's to assume the Raiders will remain enemys throughout the game where Aloy probably can get on good terms with other tribes by doing jobs or combat. 18. I liked the old UI. 19. And hopefully more ancient toys to find. 20. One would assume from a sequel. 21. Or maybe an option of needing to recharge the Focus to keep vulnerable spots highlighted and thus draining it. 22. This actually might prove to be interresting, but I hope it also goes the other way around - pester with arrows, surge, close in for the melee kill. 23. As if there were no challenging machines in HZD ...

[@lilyday115]

Well actually horizon zero Dawn was a project but keeping the horizon name just because it's catchy but if you actually look at the title of horizon forbidden West right before it says forbidden West it actually shows two lines signifying number two

[@Frodo9dedos]

The project was called 'Zero Dawn', not Horizon.

[@undeadjustice2904]

Assassin's Creed and Skyrim combined

[@SpaceMarine2004]

Horizon stole some ideas from AC in my opinion. But then with Valhalla, and Odyssey before, they stole from Horizon, so I think no problem.

[@zetaalpha5110]

Interesting fact: Nora actually means Stray in japanese

[@jacobadams9967]

I really do hope you can tame or override all the Machines I’m so excited for this game and I hope they don’t make it to Where are you can only override certain machines that would suck

[@britishhalfwit8804]

Alloy is now a dnd ranger

[@erinh31990]

I wonder if they're going to have a special armor in this one too... I need ittttt

[@stabbie2490]

I'm really hoping that we can take over a flying machine and ride on it I wanted to write a Thunderbird so bad in the zero Dawn

[@hayleebiggin5962]

I'm hoping they also add HFW on PC like they did HZD. I, unfortunately, don't have a PlayStation (so hard to get). But if I need to I will find a PlayStation, buy it and play HFW. I loved HZD so much