24 Cob Cannon Setup | Survival Endless

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No mods or cheats except for max giga density so they would keep spawning after wave 10
This is a very difficult setup that requires an alright understanding of impshot timing and decently fast hand speed. This is not even close to the hardest setup in the game though.
Solution: Ch6, PPSSDD | IPP-PPDD | PPSSDD | IPP-PPDD
Level 6 on the skill standard
Ch6 is a very logical, clean, and easy solution. By far the best
Edit: Ch6 isn't "by far the best". What I meant to say is that it was by far the easiest solution. If you don't have good pvz endless theory, I would recommend just skipping this essay.
Ch6 has 1 main issue;
Early wave spawns or delayed wave spawns are easily possible on the ice waves. On giga-only rounds (no gargantuars), the tempo is unpredictable. Sometimes the wave spawns hella early if no gigas spawn and sometimes the wave doesn't spawn at all if too many gigas spawn.
There are 3 main solutions that are more stable-
S6-c (www.bilibili.c... ). This solution only has one ice wave per cycle instead of 2 so it's just overall more stable. This solution is much harder though because of the quad cannon fodder. If you're good enough, this solution is preferred in real gameplay. (You can store a twin with this solution, the player I linked didn't)
P6-2i ( • "The Perfect Formula" ... ). This solution is the hardest solution for standard 24 cob that has ever been manually played. This solution is extremely stable with script due to the fact that there are no long waves at all. However, with manual play it's practically impossible. This solution is preferred in real gameplay if you have no MJs or no pole vaulters
P6-c (www.bilibili.c... ).
This solution can't be played manually. However, this solution is 100% stable. This is the preferred solution if you want to script 24 cob.
Sun loss isn't a huge issue if you script well enough so you only place cannon fodders when needed.
Other alternate solutions-
S6-N: • "Nuclear" 24 cob | Sur...
This solution is the same as the S6-c solution except it uses doom instead of the quad cannon fodder. This can be used in real gameplay but it's less stable and more difficult than S6-c so it's not really worth it.
P6-3i: • P6-3i solution 24 cob
This solution can't be used in real gameplay because it requires 2 ice storage spaces with no room for twins. It's also a lot harder than ch6. This was the old-school solution before ch6 was discovered.
ch9: www.bilibili.c...
This is a 7 wave sequence that's really unoptimal for this setup. Not only is it extremely difficult, it has all the same problems ch6 has except jacks are even more of an issue because the second ice wave is 13s. This sequence exists because it's what happens if you take the FE24 ch9 solution and try to use it in PE24. However, it is 100% stable besides jacks when played with extreme spawning and it could be used in real gameplay if you wanted to.
Adjacent ch6 (best solution): • 24 cob adjacent ch6
Harder version of normal ch6. This has the same issues and fixes none of them. This rhythm exists because it's used in the no pre-placed ices version of 24 cob.
Solutions that exist but don't really work-
Adjacent ch6 (bad solution): • Pure 24 Cob | Survival...
Same as normal 24 cob except pole vaulters don't work well. I played it with this rhythm here because you don't need pre-placed ices to play it but there are more stable no pre-placed ice solutions so there's not much reason to play this one.
ch5u: www.bilibili.c...
Shit rhythm with wavelengths that are way too long for jacks to not explode. This rhythm is used in multi-cob setups where there's not enough cobs for ch6 to work except ch6 works so why would you ever use this rhythm. There's actually too many cobs so this sequence only uses 22 of them
C8u: • 24 cob PE C8u
This solution works without jacks but idk why you would choose this solution over any of them. It's more complicated than the setup needs to be. Also pretty much the same thing as ch9
Other people who've played this outside of China-
• Plants vs. Zombies - S... Tei from Vietnam but he didn't bring pole vaulters and he had natural zombies so it doesn't count
• Plants Vs Zombies (Poo... Mr MLP from Vietnam
• 24 Cob Plant from the USA
• 24 cob | Survival Endless Greg from the USA
• 24 Cob Setup | Surviva... Vexalion from Poland
• 24🌽🥳🥳🥳 Minh Cao from Vietnam (redo: • Pool Endless: 24 Cob )
• 24 Cob Cannon (P6-3I) ... Advy from Peru (P6-3i solution)
All other 24 cob posts on youtube are reposts from bilibili/tieba
Music: • 【ピアノ】 「only my railgun...
Max cobs in each endless mode-
DE: • 20 Cob | Day Endless
NE: • 20 Cob Setup 😱 | Night...
FE: • 24 Cob | Fog Endless
RE: • 20 Cob | Roof Endless
ME: • 20 Cob Setup | Moon En...

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@petersusilo9588
@petersusilo9588 Ай бұрын
This is probably the first setup with song (besides 20 cob build demonstration, idk if there is missing video or not) in this video is really good even it sounds simple.
@whydoesthethebrainignoreth6273
@whydoesthethebrainignoreth6273 Жыл бұрын
Finally my friend, you did it. Congrats!
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
gg
@whydoesthethebrainignoreth6273
@whydoesthethebrainignoreth6273 Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ So is the end of your survival endless setups? LOL
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
@@whydoesthethebrainignoreth6273 nonononononono this isn't even close to the hardest setup in the game. even if it was i still have so many cobless setups i need to do. Some harder imp intersection setups include 23 cob, new 22 cob (22 cob except imp intersection on both sides), true 2 cob, super front 22 cob, super front 24 cob etc and those are only for pool endless. They get 20x harder when switching to fog or even 5 lane maps
@whydoesthethebrainignoreth6273
@whydoesthethebrainignoreth6273 Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZA lot of Cobless setups are definitely hard af and less cobs makes it harder yeah. Btw, a question. At which flag will zombie density stop increasing at? I have survived over 500 flags with my current survival endless setup
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
@@whydoesthethebrainignoreth6273 around 100 you will stop noticing differences but I think mathematically it fully stops at around 2000
@Tamptoe
@Tamptoe Жыл бұрын
Now this, this is epic. You finally did it, a really hard setup! Do you think you would ever be doing a 23 cob cannon setup?
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
I'm working on it right now, I've gotten to wave 10 3 times so far so I should get it soon
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
I'm also working on an even harder setup called new 22 cob which is 22 cob but with imp intersection on both sides
@Tamptoe
@Tamptoe Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ damnnn that seems hard. But I got a question! What's the perfect time to kill the imps when using cob cannons?
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
@@Tamptoe For unslowed gigas, there aren't any good indications. You just have to do it based off intuition and muscle memory. If they are slowed, then you have to shoot the cob when the first cob is halfway through the air. The timing is really lenient and is 2x less precise than unslowed timing but can still take some practice
@Orufj
@Orufj Жыл бұрын
24 cob - one of the hardest setups 23 cob - one of the hardest setups 22 cob - one of the hardest setups 21 cob - one of the hardest setups 20 cob - one of the hardest setups 19 cob - one of the hardest setups 18 cob - one of the hardest setups 17 cob - one of the hardest setups 16 cob - one of the hardest setups 15 cob - one of the hardest setups 14 cob - one of the hardest setups 13 cob - one of the hardest setups 12 cob - one of the hardest setups 11 cob - one of the hardest setups 10 cob - one of the hardest setups 9 cob - one of the hardest setups 8 cob - one of the hardest setups 7 cob - one of the hardest setups 6 cob - one of the hardest setups 5 cob - one of the hardest setups 4 cob - one of the hardest setups 3 cob - one of the hardest setups 2 cob - one of the hardest setups 1 cob - HARDEST SETUP EVER
@Badbat2120
@Badbat2120 Жыл бұрын
Finally Hope you still active after done that!! Because i found some people did it and don't upload PvZ videos anymore
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
yes i'm still going to be active
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
ahahahah you thought i was gonna quit after getting this
@Da.Liar-Pig
@Da.Liar-Pig Жыл бұрын
Well people had busy life and sometimes they just lose interest
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
@@Da.Liar-Pig not me bro
@TractionDoingHW
@TractionDoingHW 4 ай бұрын
All it takes is one screw up and this thing is done for 🙏😭 but seriously your talented af
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ 4 ай бұрын
thanks bro
@Orufj
@Orufj Жыл бұрын
thats so epic broooo
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@AdvyPvZ
@AdvyPvZ Жыл бұрын
💯 likes! Congratulations
@ufiveh
@ufiveh 5 күн бұрын
IT'S CORN STRATEGY
@pvz_endless
@pvz_endless Жыл бұрын
Nice
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
haven't even watched it yet lmfao
@pvz_endless
@pvz_endless Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ just comment first hhh
@vuphucthanh4709
@vuphucthanh4709 Жыл бұрын
Con canon click so insane
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@Phazer25
@Phazer25 Жыл бұрын
the big one! nice job (also i like the premieres, i think yt will recommend them more too)
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
you're probably right
@-T-NguyenHuuPhuoc
@-T-NguyenHuuPhuoc 11 ай бұрын
Only my Railgun
@fajaranggoro4158
@fajaranggoro4158 6 ай бұрын
Anikura Moment...
@thechadmadlad23
@thechadmadlad23 Жыл бұрын
utsuho reiuji approves this strategy
@dhruvchitroda
@dhruvchitroda 5 ай бұрын
To kill the thrown imps mid air, you wait for some time then perfectly time your cobs on the second or third lane. Why so? Why not kill them while the Gargantuars are removing them from their basket? Also, how did you miss your timing when the imps landed on your behind cobs? And you started the video with 7900 flags and ended with 7400. So is this strategy renewable or just for the sake of popularity?
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ 5 ай бұрын
1. you can’t kill the imps while they’re leaving the basket. this works for normal gargantuars but not for gigas 2. i missed the timing because it’s 0.2 seconds precise and it’s difficult to do consistently 3. this setup is renewable, you gain sun on easier rounds
@chryonic8033
@chryonic8033 4 ай бұрын
🤯
@-kevinxavier-8729
@-kevinxavier-8729 Жыл бұрын
Todos ablando de la increíble cantidad de mazorca cañones, pero nadie abla del truco del final con el zombie bailarín
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
si
@elperroquemuerde8286
@elperroquemuerde8286 Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ no
@gamesontop9341
@gamesontop9341 Жыл бұрын
yo my bro can you please tell me a way to play on those setups i every time fail when i try to play with it because imps just keep eating my cob cannons bro how can i deal with them?
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
well the timing to kill the imps is 1/5th of a second and you do that constantly so the only way to play it is to keep practicing for hours and hours until it's so baked until your muscle memory it's impossible to mess up
@gamesontop9341
@gamesontop9341 Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ I'm trying now to learn the 20 cob cannon first because some times digger zombies can escape the cob shots after this i will just keep my mind with imps and try my best to do it anyways thank you very much you just earned a sub!
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
@@gamesontop9341 thanks. to deal with diggers you have to pre-cob so try shooting the cobs about a second and a half before the wave spawns in
@gamesontop9341
@gamesontop9341 Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ ok thanks!
@Debeebug
@Debeebug 3 ай бұрын
his finger 💀💀
@Ell0_sTadium66
@Ell0_sTadium66 Жыл бұрын
this is greatest challenge ever of pvz. if you dare attempt this and get past 50 flags, youre gonna be a legend.
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
this guy did 100 flags lol www.bilibili.com/video/BV1UT411J7yX/
@Orufj
@Orufj Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ 1000 flags
@azura8587
@azura8587 Жыл бұрын
All the weebs coming across this vid and hearing Railgun song be like: :O "this is familiar"
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
i don’t even watch anime but this song is fire
@Incognito-rb4tz
@Incognito-rb4tz Жыл бұрын
every musician hearing 0:25: _everywhere i go, i hear the lick_
@robarodello
@robarodello Жыл бұрын
cómo se llama la música del vídeo pd me recomiendas está estrategia?
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
Realmente no recomiendo esta estrategia. Esta estrategia es increíblemente difícil y me tomó semanas a pesar de que tengo más de 500 horas de juego. música: only my railgun kzbin.info/www/bejne/qF7PhaZprKebb5I
@jeraldmanlangit2514
@jeraldmanlangit2514 Жыл бұрын
I LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO LAUNCH
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
difficult is an understatement
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
also calm down
@jeraldmanlangit2514
@jeraldmanlangit2514 Жыл бұрын
Can be used the 20 cobs
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
@@jeraldmanlangit2514 yes 20 cob is a really consistent setup but i would not recommend it for beginners
@dieh.dieh_
@dieh.dieh_ Жыл бұрын
Es una locura
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
si
@dieh.dieh_
@dieh.dieh_ Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ si
@emperorcrimson3656
@emperorcrimson3656 Жыл бұрын
pvz is like osu, because of the cobs haha
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
ye it’s really fun unlike osu though
@The_Wise_Wang
@The_Wise_Wang Жыл бұрын
With only one twin sun flower you are gonna run out of sun so it's not a great set up!
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
no this setup lasts forever because you gain 2000+ sun without gigas so unless you get giga+pole vaulter 50 times in a row (which is statistically impossible) you can't lose if you play perfectly
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
i also didn't play very optimally i could've lost only 300 sun if I played better
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl Жыл бұрын
you're just not a wise enough gamer
@hyppoh5294
@hyppoh5294 Жыл бұрын
what's imp intersect?
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
killing an imp with a cob cannon a couple of frames after it leaves the giga's hands it's really precise
@nicathenoob19
@nicathenoob19 Жыл бұрын
@@ScaffoldPvZ that’s impshot
@ScaffoldPvZ
@ScaffoldPvZ Жыл бұрын
@@nicathenoob19 they are the same thing
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