College Football Officiating Was A Disaster Saturday (Josh Pate Cut)

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@charlesisbell6561
@charlesisbell6561 4 күн бұрын
Officiating is legit why South Carolin isn’t a lock in the SEC championship game right now
@Surfbird11
@Surfbird11 4 күн бұрын
Yep. LSU doesn't win without the zebras.
@ReadR00ster1
@ReadR00ster1 4 күн бұрын
I think it would still be Texas and Tennessee unless the vols lose to Vandy, am I wrong? Still SC would control their own destiny with a win this weekend as far as the CFP goes.
@rockytopronnie
@rockytopronnie 4 күн бұрын
@@ReadR00ster1 Georgia is a lock for the SEC championship game. The winner of Texas and Texas A&M gets the other spot. Tennessee is eliminated due to tiebreakers even if they win on Saturday.
@ugadawgs831
@ugadawgs831 4 күн бұрын
@@ReadR00ster1talking about the SECCG? It’s Georgia vs Texas or AM whoever wins that game 100%
@trevorbates4424
@trevorbates4424 4 күн бұрын
Like memmaw always said don leave the game in the hands of the officials
@jacobbroduer6361
@jacobbroduer6361 4 күн бұрын
As a bama fan I understand we didn’t deserve to win that game, just feel bad for Williams cause that 4th down td catch was incredible
@dustinshirey8913
@dustinshirey8913 4 күн бұрын
We could have flipped with that play tho!!! We all know these are kids playing and emotional runs are true and when people get amped and momentum plays a big key in ALL SPORTS!!! And this was a killer along with the way we played bc we didn’t come in there to play a team that is VERY CAPABLE JUST DEALING WITH INJURIES AND WE CAUGHT THEM AT THE END OF THE SEASON WITH THEM GELLYING TOGETHER AND PLAYED ALOT MORE SNAPS WITH ONE ANOTHER!!!! There record and the RAT POISON GOT US ALONG WITH A FEW MORE THINGS!!!! THE LINE AND PEOPLE BETTING WON ALOT OF MONEY OF THIS GAME!!!!
@jamesshepherd343
@jamesshepherd343 4 күн бұрын
Officials took the game from South Carolina against LSU, too.
@ajdance8677
@ajdance8677 4 күн бұрын
It was the same officiating crew for that game and this one. Chronic incompetence or blatant corruption.
@GeococcyxVelox
@GeococcyxVelox 4 күн бұрын
@@ajdance8677Different crew. Jason Autry’s ref crew did USC-LSU They did the Auburn-TXAM game on 11/23/24. It was Wayne Winkler’s crew that did Bama-OK in 11/23. But shows these SEC ref crews suck.
@Pondy33
@Pondy33 4 күн бұрын
Likely changed the outcome of the TN vs GA too
@blakehaymore1445
@blakehaymore1445 3 күн бұрын
100% agree. the block on Nuss was clean, he’s a defender at that point and he pushed him square in the chest, nothing illegal about it.
@EricRomines
@EricRomines 4 күн бұрын
Tennessee fan here… I was rooting for OK to win, I’m by far a Bama fan. With that said, I about launched a beer through my TV over this call. I was pissed for Bama. These officials should have to go to the media center right after the game just like the head coaches do. Start holding them accountable!
@dustinshirey8913
@dustinshirey8913 4 күн бұрын
How many calls weren’t called and then this man WAITED TIL HE CAUGHT THE BALL BEFORE HE THREW THE FLAG AND IF YOUR COVERED UP OR HAVE ILLEGAL MOTION ITS CALLED ASA THE BALL IS SNAPPED!!!!
@DiscoPilgrim4903
@DiscoPilgrim4903 4 күн бұрын
Don't forget the blatant hands to the face on Milroe!
@arubial1229
@arubial1229 4 күн бұрын
@@dustinshirey8913it’s not “illegal touching” until you touch the ball, so of course he had to wait. They blew the call, but not because of the timing of the flag
@dustinshirey8913
@dustinshirey8913 4 күн бұрын
@ yea your right bout that but asa he touched the ball he threw the flag but if he was covered up it would have been illegal procedure bc more than 4people in the backfield well we know! But yea you’re right! It was thrown asa he saw he made the catch and the COACH STAFF SAID SOMETHING ON THEIR SIDELINE!!!!! Same ref crew that was with Texas and Georgia!
@Pondy33
@Pondy33 4 күн бұрын
Never be pissed for Bama
@TKrakowski1
@TKrakowski1 4 күн бұрын
Bama hater here. That call was egregious BS.
@williamkeene9032
@williamkeene9032 4 күн бұрын
It's gotten to a point where you can't in any way justify these calls that go our teams way. I can't watch a k.c. chiefs game because I inevitably end up rooting for the other team because of the calls.
@maliakhart4281
@maliakhart4281 4 күн бұрын
Thank you🙏🏽🙏🏽 like I get it we might not have won but no one can say that DIDNT shift the momentum
@jmmurray1
@jmmurray1 4 күн бұрын
@@maliakhart4281 That call completed deflated Bama
@williamkeene9032
@williamkeene9032 4 күн бұрын
@@jmmurray1 I agree. They were done at that point.
@Fedgolfer
@Fedgolfer 4 күн бұрын
Officiating is getting so bad even Bama is getting hosed by the refs.
@igorbittner8483
@igorbittner8483 4 күн бұрын
Thank God for Josh Pate speaking up. Unfortunately nothing changes.
@chewbaka1496
@chewbaka1496 4 күн бұрын
At least it's being brought up. Thank you, Josh Pate!
@splintercell320
@splintercell320 4 күн бұрын
When Josh Pate becomes the College Football Commissioner, he will fix all these issues.
@mrbreck1
@mrbreck1 4 күн бұрын
Worst part was the ref waited until the td call to even reach for a flag. Soon as he saw that td he threw the flag.
@TheDoWhat
@TheDoWhat 4 күн бұрын
How is there ANYTHING that is non reviewable?! That’s the dumbest thing on earth
@westonhull7595
@westonhull7595 4 күн бұрын
Maybe bc the games would take 9 hours if they had to review every holding call, block in the back, facemask, potential false start/offsides, personal foul, etc. The officiating in this sport is no doubt beyond pathetic, but we don’t need games taking 7 hours to play bc the booth is stopping the action every few snaps to review something else.
@rogerburdette8040
@rogerburdette8040 4 күн бұрын
@@westonhull7595 Weston, was about to say the same thing but with a small caveat. The league has all the technology to look at plays for targeting and call in to stop the game. Why not look at these plays and call it in when it is as obvious as that play was. Not being a homer but Milroe was hit in the face on at least 2 occasions and nothing was called. I am sure there were many more horrible calls/non calls but this crew has shown it isn't college material.
@FeNite8
@FeNite8 4 күн бұрын
​@@westonhull7595 blame ESPN for a 5 minute commercial every time the clock stops
@benslease
@benslease 4 күн бұрын
@@westonhull7595 They literally just added a 2 minute warning errr timeout to sell more ad time. Get rid of that and allow for more reviews. Alternatively, they could also do it on the fly, like the Premier League does. No reason the refs need to come out and explain everything each time. Just say "the booth has checked and confirmed the call" (or whatever).
@MikeinAustin
@MikeinAustin 4 күн бұрын
@@westonhull7595that’s hyperbole and crap argument. No it’s not going to take 9 hours to review the handful of calls. Add 12 minutes. Maybe.
@jakematerne
@jakematerne 4 күн бұрын
SEC officiating has been dog 💩 for over a decade.
@thekernel13a
@thekernel13a 4 күн бұрын
You beat me to it.
@zacmullins7811
@zacmullins7811 4 күн бұрын
all due to Bama grad Steve Shaw
@truthhurts95
@truthhurts95 4 күн бұрын
College football officials have been bad across board for a while it’s not just the sec
@truthhurts95
@truthhurts95 4 күн бұрын
@@zacmullins7811y’all sound dumb when you say bama has paid everybody off
@georgemonnatjr.172
@georgemonnatjr.172 4 күн бұрын
As a Texas fan, I thought B12 was the worst. I was actually excited about the SEC, but it's just as bad.
@BHow803
@BHow803 4 күн бұрын
Don’t forget LSU/SC game earlier this year. Joke officiating.
@cynicalaries6201
@cynicalaries6201 4 күн бұрын
💯
@brianstaley6391
@brianstaley6391 4 күн бұрын
And it turns out, may have cost SC a CFP trip
@StopShopCards
@StopShopCards 4 күн бұрын
As a SC fan I was sick watching it, I’m even more sick now that we have a chance to make it in
@jakematerne
@jakematerne 4 күн бұрын
@@BHow803 I agree the officiating was terrible. However, if South Carolinas DE isn’t a dirty player the pick 6 stands and South Carolina over comes a miserably officiated game.
@BHow803
@BHow803 4 күн бұрын
@@jakematerne qb was not a defenseless player
@mattschrimpf236
@mattschrimpf236 4 күн бұрын
Sc has the biggest complaint of all. Got hosed on a number of bad calls that costs them against lsu. That doesn't happen sc is 10-2 and in the cfp and sec championship discussion.
@r0llntider
@r0llntider 4 күн бұрын
Sc got hosed vs LSU big time. LSU gets all the calls. The 2022 Bama Tennessee game a phantom pi after the play is almost over from an official from the other side of the field. The sec wanted Texas and UGA in the title game and they screwed teams over all season when they could to do it.
@Pondy33
@Pondy33 4 күн бұрын
Nah TN would be in the SEC championship before S Carolina
@Pondy33
@Pondy33 4 күн бұрын
@@r0llntiderdon’t get started on 22 game. I watched that game and the refs gave Bama more calls than TN
@mattschrimpf236
@mattschrimpf236 4 күн бұрын
@Pondy33 sure this year they would unless they lose to vandy. Crazier things have happened this year. But my comment said discussion and with a loss to vandy they would be in line to play for it ahead of tennesee and would basically be 50% chance to make the playoffs. Thats why I said discussion for. Try to keep up
@Pondy33
@Pondy33 4 күн бұрын
@@mattschrimpf236 don’t throw around terms you don’t know, son
@Gearjammer5150
@Gearjammer5150 4 күн бұрын
Refs in the B1G have stopped calling penalties against Ohio State opponents. Our last 3 opponents were flagged for 25 yards total. Combined. Over 3 games.
@snapfinger1
@snapfinger1 4 күн бұрын
Preaching to the choir of ALL CFB fans regardless of affiliation.
@j43k
@j43k 4 күн бұрын
hard facts
@youngmasai1347
@youngmasai1347 4 күн бұрын
Right that colorado game was terribly called by the referees
@mrhillsman
@mrhillsman 4 күн бұрын
​@@youngmasai1347 Texas Tech game official telling Colorado coach basically so what fans throwing bottles/cans/etc now Kansas game late hits, personal fouls, etc not called
@todmarks175
@todmarks175 4 күн бұрын
True. So quit watching. It will get changed when they lose viewers.
@jamesmarshall6619
@jamesmarshall6619 4 күн бұрын
As someone who watched PAC10/12 officiating, it got to the point where hating the refs was one thing that bonded all of us. We got so sick of so many bad calls and it's a shame to see how bad it is everywhere else. Felt as though in the Pac-12 we had our own niche of horrible officiating but seeing it be so bad is disconcerting. I know people say don't leave it up to officials but when players do exactly what they're supposed to do and the call goes against them then that's not leaving it up to officials, that's players and teams getting robbed of an opportunity they earned.
@scottshinbaum1772
@scottshinbaum1772 4 күн бұрын
Another crazy one is the calls in the 2nd OT that nearly cost Auburn (missed blatant defensive holding/pass interference, followed by Offensive Pass Interference on next play). That was the same officiating crew that screwed South Carolina against LSU.
@cadebraaten687
@cadebraaten687 4 күн бұрын
Well they also missed a massive hold on auburn’s first OT drive. A&M hasn’t gotten a holding call since they played bowling green. Wild
@brucenorred4397
@brucenorred4397 4 күн бұрын
@@cadebraaten687 Not seeing something that happened is a much smaller mistake than seeing something that didn't happened.
@Troubleshooter-2.0
@Troubleshooter-2.0 4 күн бұрын
I thought the penalty on that crossing route was fair. Auburn won, if you'll remember. I didn't see the foul on A&M after Hugh Freeze whined mightily to the officials.
@blakeedmondson9573
@blakeedmondson9573 3 күн бұрын
And then called a phantom holding penalty on A&M to even it up. Make the right call the first time and you won't have to make up a call to fix your mistake
@blakeedmondson9573
@blakeedmondson9573 3 күн бұрын
​@@Troubleshooter-2.0I'm a Bama fan and despise Auburn and was vehemently rooting for A&M. But if you thought that Offensive PI penalty was legit, I don't know what to tell you. The guy literally dove out of the way to avoid running into the defender. Didn't even make contact with him
@tylerbryant8012
@tylerbryant8012 4 күн бұрын
Officials have Sports betting accounts in their 3rd cousin's name.
@JPMorganSuckBalls
@JPMorganSuckBalls 4 күн бұрын
THAT'S THE MAIN PROBLEM!
@jeffhandley3070
@jeffhandley3070 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for going in on this topic officiating is a joke in college football and it’s absurd with the money involved.
@ThatneGuy
@ThatneGuy 4 күн бұрын
Opposing offensive lines have not been called for holding against Texas A&M since week 4 lol
@BrandonSmith-be2qu
@BrandonSmith-be2qu 4 күн бұрын
Penalties should be challengeable in my opinion. That way when we have a garbage call like this a coach can decide to use one of his 2 challenges on the call. This could fix some of these situations
@buddy3824
@buddy3824 4 күн бұрын
Auburn fan. While I simply can't feel bad for Alabama, that call was pure trash. The conference should be embarrassed by the officiating this season.
@kanedunnivan8183
@kanedunnivan8183 4 күн бұрын
It looks like the ref seen the pass get completed then threw the flag that’s what I and everybody I was around seen watching it live l. Disgusting call
@jacksongreenwade1590
@jacksongreenwade1590 4 күн бұрын
Texas A&M has played 30 consecutive quarters plus 4 OTs of SEC play without getting a SINGLE holding call in their favor while pass rushing. Not a single call.
@johnmuse6626
@johnmuse6626 3 күн бұрын
Tennessee has faced the same thing this year. Elite pass rushers that often end up in headlocks from behind, no calls. Bama/Georgia hold all day long and never get called for it.
@dustindavis4923
@dustindavis4923 4 күн бұрын
I don’t understand why all penalties aren’t reviewable. Targeting is reviewable.. so why can’t this be? Especially when the game is on the line.
@commonabond
@commonabond 4 күн бұрын
As a PSU fan, Minnesota got called for Pass Interference at the end of the first half on a drive that lead to a TD. The ball was 5' out of bounds and there was barely any contact between the WR and the CB... wtf. I'm not judging the refs on making the right call in real time, I'm upset they don't fix it after the play.
@Troubleshooter-2.0
@Troubleshooter-2.0 4 күн бұрын
I wasn't watching, but that is egregious. You know it messes with the momentum of a game like that. It is unacceptable and Ryan Williams deserved that TD. An official should do a double take if Ryan Williams is covered up, because he is one of the best receivers in the game and it makes no GD sense for him to be covered up, period.
@NFace23
@NFace23 4 күн бұрын
Give head coaches 1 super challenge for any call or no-call. Just 1. People don't want everything to be reviewable because that would slow the game down. ONE super challenge per team will not slow games down any more than the copious ad breaks already do.
@rizon72
@rizon72 4 күн бұрын
That won't solve a thing, in fact it will only make things worse.
@andrewsheek
@andrewsheek 4 күн бұрын
​@@rizon72 How so? How does a coaches challenge make things worse?
@HawgWyldFishing
@HawgWyldFishing 4 күн бұрын
@@andrewsheekthey won’t have an answer for that question.
@rizon72
@rizon72 4 күн бұрын
@@andrewsheek It allows one more area where a ref can make a mistake and think, I'll just allow replay to correct it. Show me where Instant Replay has made any sport's reffing better? The more you add the worse things get.
@hector8491
@hector8491 4 күн бұрын
​@andrewsheek BAma got blown out. That TD wouldn't have made a difference
@smithjimmypantz3228
@smithjimmypantz3228 4 күн бұрын
I don’t think it would have made a difference in the game outcome 😒 - Alabama didn’t present themselves at their best, 🐘 BUT STILL!! CFB officiating is turning into Kansas City games 😮 which is why I don’t watch NFL 🏈 Between this call ⛳️ and the Georgia / Texas call, (which keep in mind was the same officiating crew), you can’t help but wonder and put two and two together with legalized gambling, 😤 which I think officials should be banned from participating in.
@mrsullivan1709
@mrsullivan1709 4 күн бұрын
This crew was going to make sure that Alabama wasn’t going to be in this game. The official was already throwing the flag before the ball even got there. Let’s not forget the first touchdown that Ryan Williams caught in the first half. Never saw 100% evidence that he ever stepped out of bounds on that play to overturn the call on the field.
@DiscoPilgrim4903
@DiscoPilgrim4903 4 күн бұрын
There was blatant hands to face on Milroe also. I think the one that got batted for an INT, he got smacked straight in the face. Zero call 😑
@rogerburdette8040
@rogerburdette8040 4 күн бұрын
Bama fan here and yes Williams did step out of bounds. The officiating crew didn't insure a Bama loss, Bama did that on their own.
@jonboy87
@jonboy87 4 күн бұрын
He definitely stepped out of bounds. This play was definitely a touchdown. Anyone watching the game could tell the refs were one-sided. This same crew has been doing a lot of questionable calls all year and should be investigated.
@steveabbott1202
@steveabbott1202 2 күн бұрын
Alabama got kicked hard in every category. OU was the best team that night.
@0mn0mable
@0mn0mable 4 күн бұрын
hell yeah brother, preach. My Carolina Gamecocks got done dirty too early in the season vs LSU. Go Cocks, beat clemson! 🤙🤙🤙
@yeetclan2668
@yeetclan2668 4 күн бұрын
If school officials at Bama Georgia and SC say something I believe something will be done
@kylesatterfield3043
@kylesatterfield3043 4 күн бұрын
Also keep in mind he threw the flag once the ball was almost in the end zone.
@chewbaka1496
@chewbaka1496 4 күн бұрын
I was rooting for Oklahoma, but those calls were horrible. That was the same crew that gaffed in the Texas game! They need not offiate anything else....ever! EVER!!!!
@johngoodman9380
@johngoodman9380 4 күн бұрын
Refs win and lose bets for people made by large and small calls all the time. When you said billions you said it all. That much money corrupts.
@Thomas45763
@Thomas45763 4 күн бұрын
Oklahoma fan here, and I was at the game. This was the most egregious call of the night by far, but the refereeing for the whole game was simply terrible. Missed calls on both sides. As a fan, we don’t want the best win of the season to be suspect, but now it is. Now Bama has a right to think they got screwed out of a comeback attempt, and they did. Gotta do better. BOOMER
@tylervanmarter7303
@tylervanmarter7303 4 күн бұрын
lol it’s not suspect at all. The Sooners controlled that game all night. It wouldn’t have changed.
@billylove5793
@billylove5793 4 күн бұрын
Its a tenous right. I think we were done, even if we get that call. 2 plays arent an offense, but thats what we have...run the qb or throw deep.
@zenfire3365
@zenfire3365 4 күн бұрын
I wish a documentary was made on the underworld of corruption in college football and gambling industries
@StopShopCards
@StopShopCards 4 күн бұрын
Waiting on you to talk about SC Gamecocks, SEC now is saying (24%). If we beat Clemson, there’s no way we are less than 70%
@lhiannonshee
@lhiannonshee 4 күн бұрын
I have been saying all season that this year has been the most poorly officiated season I have ever watched. Across the board. Let's not forget Minnesota getting hosed earlier this year on a phantom offsides call on an onside kick, a targeting call where a QB was hit in his butttcheek, the officiating crew of the UT/UGA game REVERSING a call when the fans threw trash on the field....I mean, the list is myriad and sundry.
@Btb12345
@Btb12345 4 күн бұрын
Ohio State got hit with 2 “block in the back” calls that weren’t blocks in the back. Joel Klatt was calling it out Live. Officials almost stole the game from Auburn too on some horrible PI call
@josh-ll8ye
@josh-ll8ye 4 күн бұрын
The fact that wasn’t reviewable made no since to me
@TheSoonerfanchuck
@TheSoonerfanchuck 4 күн бұрын
As a big Sooner fan... I was blown away by this kid on Bama... It actually pissed me off when they called that. Oklahoma didn't want or need these ass clowns to help us... And I definitely don't want this karma hovering over OU... There is more than enough drama in Norman, Ok., this year
@gigemaggies50
@gigemaggies50 4 күн бұрын
Yes. I agree!!! It’s been bad all year. The Bama call was horrible, and I hate Bama. Then the holding calls, that are missed.
@jkkhutson
@jkkhutson 4 күн бұрын
One thing that ticks me off when it is called either way is when a call such as holding or offensive lineman up field is called even though the hold or offensive lineman is no where near the ball and had no effect on the play. That drives me crazy
@GuymontagFahr451
@GuymontagFahr451 4 күн бұрын
Its getting to the point where I almost dont care anymore, because some bonehead call might cost my team a big game. Hard to get invested when it feels like the officiating is arbitrary.
@roscoerubee4972
@roscoerubee4972 4 күн бұрын
Makes them look bought off.
@PhiAggie
@PhiAggie 4 күн бұрын
A&M hasn’t had a holding call against their DL in 30 quarters of play. Against arguably the top DL unit in the country. Insane.
@TJordanWDE
@TJordanWDE 4 күн бұрын
and yet that missed / bad call is still not as egregious as the 2 back to back in the AU atm game. the non PI call followed by the OPI call were 2 of the worst ever.
@gaiterat6187
@gaiterat6187 4 күн бұрын
Much worse agreed. Tate is definitely a Bama boy lol
@account2292
@account2292 4 күн бұрын
Sports betting ruined football.
@duskdaddy
@duskdaddy 4 күн бұрын
Coaches get fined for talking about officiating
@price1008
@price1008 3 күн бұрын
As a Sooner fan that was horrible. Ryan Williams made a hell of a catch
@Fedgolfer
@Fedgolfer 4 күн бұрын
What about the Pitt v UVA game where UVA failed to convert the 4th and 1 but then the refs called a do-over because the refs weren’t ready. Then on the re-do, they they converted the 4th and 1… avoiding the loss of downs and not giving Pitt the ball for the comeback W. Total BS.
@thegood9
@thegood9 4 күн бұрын
I wish the coaches would come together, get Nick Saban involved, and INSIST that they get full time, salaried officials that HAVE to be accountable for their jobs and answer to the public in order to keep their jobs, just like ANY OTHER JOB. Yes, some will make mistakes, BUT, if certain people make similar mistakes over and over, and especially in big games, they HAVE to go. This is a PATHETIC situation.
@prestongrissom9287
@prestongrissom9287 3 күн бұрын
THANK YOU for calling this out and placing blame appropriately. It really affects the viewing experience
@tylerbush5939
@tylerbush5939 4 күн бұрын
The one no-call/offensive PI in the Auburn and A&M game was some of the most egregious officiating I have ever seen - yes I am a biased Auburn fan
@BlackSlacksGarage
@BlackSlacksGarage 4 күн бұрын
I cannot beleive that the same crew is still working after that mess at the UGA vs Texas game......THAT white hat is a JOKE! ....and it was not JUST the PI call that was reversed.....I am a GHSA official here in Georgia and you are correct.....it SHOULD NOT be acceptable. SMH
@shadowdawg04
@shadowdawg04 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for getting on this - pissed me off to no end... and people making the excuse that it really wouldn't have made a difference - well now we will never fckn know!!!!
@jamesshepherd343
@jamesshepherd343 4 күн бұрын
It could have lit a spark for a comeback. We see them all the time. Williams collapsed with disappointment after the call. It took their fight away after they were already playing poorly.
@dfscott62
@dfscott62 4 күн бұрын
When I saw that game, I knew you were going to go off on this, and deservedly so.
@kylegross1081
@kylegross1081 4 күн бұрын
It’s still no where near as bad as the NFL
@RPPIII13
@RPPIII13 4 күн бұрын
Targeting is the worst. It literally does nothing besides gives refs more power. Everytime there’s a big hit they just throw the flag like throwing spaghetti on the wall and sees what sticks. Also that ref crew who Officiated the BYU Utah game also officiated the biggest big 12 game this week Kansas - Colorado. So as you see there’s no punishment for poor officiating
@lamardurden8460
@lamardurden8460 4 күн бұрын
Stop watching and they will be forced to answer.
@blakeharrison3972
@blakeharrison3972 4 күн бұрын
I think CFB is a few steps away from being a sub category of NFL. We need to have a commissioner (I have a candidate in mind) we have to implement a limit on NIL; we have to implement a number of times a player can transfer. I still think Josh is on the money about the G5 having their own play off, the 12 team is insane but here we are. Officiating being a full time employment with the money involved is without question. I can’t think of another billion dollar industry where there isn’t any structure to the degree CFB is currently. Does the NFL get it right every time? Of course not, but if every player just left every team every off season, and keep in mind these are still developmental years, if a 21 year old played high school football we’d say it’s not balanced; yet we have a guy playing his 9th season at Miami.
@madbrowniac7871
@madbrowniac7871 4 күн бұрын
@blakeharrison3972: The difference between College and Pro though is that Players don't transfer the Team Owner and GM TRADES them! Imagine the mess if that ever transpires.😂😮👨‍🎓💸💰🏈B.W.
@albertdale5101
@albertdale5101 4 күн бұрын
A 'bad call' against Bama gets everybody upset...
@1dwkjr
@1dwkjr 4 күн бұрын
NFL still has these issues from time to time too. Minnesota vs Lions, Sam Darnold had his face ripped off by the DE, and not only did they not call the facemask, they upheld the safety. Did it decide the game? Probably not, but it definitely ended the Vikings chances.
@Byrd21590
@Byrd21590 4 күн бұрын
The holds on Alabama during the game too were bad.
@ChrisAZ1776
@ChrisAZ1776 4 күн бұрын
Pass Interference? Have the rules changed? What about linemen holding? I see defensive backs maul receivers, hands all over the receiver, not even looking back at the ball and no flags. O linemen literally have both hands full of jersey, the jersey is clearly being stretched out, and no flags for holding. WTF? I don't get it. I played outside linebacker and cornerback. I was never coached to play like they do these days. I see pro DBs making plays that I wouldn't get caught doing or Id get benched. Seriously, are they taught these days to not bother trying to look for the freakin' ball? I've seen so many times the DB has his back to the QB, and if they had had just played the ball, they could have had an interception instead of getting burned for a 40 yard gain. Blows my mind. Just cause a guy is 6'2" and runs a 4.4 40, that doesn't mean he's a legit DB. I seen play by pro DBs that they wouldn't start on a high school team. I just can't believe they have these hacks on the field. And don't get me started on the unnecessary roughness calls? We playing powder puff ball now? It's almost illegal to tackle a player now.
@Southern1861Gentleman
@Southern1861Gentleman 3 күн бұрын
Well said and thank you Josh Pate. The officiating stinks ! Follow the money from pocket to pocket !
@jimmclaughlin6629
@jimmclaughlin6629 4 күн бұрын
Well Josh, how can you not at least be suspicious of the ref that says a receiver was covered when he clearly was not? It’s either pathetic incompetence or, worse, a lack of integrity.
@Sega_1848
@Sega_1848 4 күн бұрын
The over reliance on replay has ruined the quality of games. They aren’t officiating to get it right but for replay to save them.
@davearnold6284
@davearnold6284 4 күн бұрын
It's time for the SEC to start a Professional Officiating Acadamy. 12 month per year jobs, film training for up coming opponents, physical training, PAY them, ex-college athletes or physically capable individuals, Post Game grading......SET the officiating standard.....sports betting has become too big to ignore....Atlanta would be a good location....Billion dollar business with $100 officials has to go!!!!!
@madbrowniac7871
@madbrowniac7871 4 күн бұрын
@davearnold6824: Physical Training would also be pursuant to a Physical and Medical Competency Exam.👨‍⚕️👩‍⚕️🏈B.W.
@vinceredeor439
@vinceredeor439 4 күн бұрын
Alabama OU and Ohio State Indiana were two of the worst officiated games I’ve ever seeen
@fudgenuggets405
@fudgenuggets405 3 күн бұрын
About an hour later in the Auburn / TAMU game there was a stretch of blown calls just as bad. Missed call where the Aggie DB yanked the back of the Auburn WR's jersey in the end zone followed by an OPI on a "pick" that wasn't even close to being a pick play.
@michaelgammage4524
@michaelgammage4524 4 күн бұрын
They have continued to punish UT since then, several ridiculous calls/nocalls a game.
@jarrettgriffin8190
@jarrettgriffin8190 4 күн бұрын
“That official has no recourse.” Well… they could have picked the flag up, non-review-ability of a call hasn’t stopped that crew from doing that before in a situation where it was obvious their on-field call was trash.
@BrianSimon-by6go
@BrianSimon-by6go 4 күн бұрын
It’s nice to see someone bringing up the horrendous officiating. It’s one thing to maybe miss a call or make a bad call at full speed, but to watch it in slow motion and STILL make the wrong call? And yes, some of these calls affect the outcome. Worse if all, you can see the bias in some of these calls.
@GarrettSmith-d6l
@GarrettSmith-d6l 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for using your voice who knows what would’ve happened maybe it sparks a comeback maybe there’s no difference in the game but can’t let an official have that power without review
@kevinhorn7257
@kevinhorn7257 4 күн бұрын
ACC officiating has been shit for forever, but as soon as officiating affects the $ec it becomes a big deal. Sounds about right for how the landscape of college football is now.
@campbellcampbell9059
@campbellcampbell9059 4 күн бұрын
Wait, you’re ruling out that gambling on the SEC (Billion$), which is a bigger business than the SEC itself has nothing to do with these calls? Josh, feel like mema would have a colloquialism like ‘that dog don’t hunt’ for your take. Feels like Utah’s AD knows it’s starting to stink and I suspect other AD’s do as well. Refs can change games with the most incidental calls. Pretty sure the bots can provide a playbook on when to make those calls. Nothing changes games like 3rd and long.
@terrycarr4933
@terrycarr4933 4 күн бұрын
I was under the impression you could review all touchdowns .
@Nathan-ct9eh
@Nathan-ct9eh 4 күн бұрын
commenting for the algorithm, this is a huge problem! But I think it generates social media attention and sorta like influencer drama "any press is better than no press" perhaps
@nicholaspowell7931
@nicholaspowell7931 4 күн бұрын
Officiating has been bad all season
@DoubleA012
@DoubleA012 4 күн бұрын
Terrible refs let Shedeur get leveled with a nasty low, late & cheap hit and called nothing. In fact, they actually called a penalty on Colorado 😂
@hector8491
@hector8491 4 күн бұрын
Keep crying.
@rogerburdette8040
@rogerburdette8040 4 күн бұрын
@@hector8491 I don't think he is crying. Not a Buffs fan or Sanders fan but that was a hit that was meant to take someone out of the game and possible end a career!
@stevekostoff5587
@stevekostoff5587 4 күн бұрын
@@hector8491 I'm not a fan of either team but that was the cheapest shot ever, that player should have been seen off over that attempt to assassinate Shedeur.
@ianc1203
@ianc1203 4 күн бұрын
Surprised at no mention of SC v LSU earlier this year too.
@TylerMaxwell-g1t
@TylerMaxwell-g1t 4 күн бұрын
The Georgia Tennessee Game was very much the same way that it made me so sick
@karrdashen9190
@karrdashen9190 4 күн бұрын
no it wasn't. college football analysts and fans from teams that aren't even involved are calling out the officials in the OK/Bama game. Tenn fans are the only ones complaining about the loss to UGA. they are NOT the same.
@johnmuse6626
@johnmuse6626 3 күн бұрын
You are correct. The 12 men on the field was particularly terrible. Especially after they reviewed it and still got it wrong. There is no 3 second rule about the actual substitution. You get 3 seconds to decide to sub, then if it takes until the clock runs out, that's on the offense for subbing late in the clock. Tennessee actually got penalized vs Missouri for delay of game last year when Missouri used the final 14 seconds on the play clock to sub. In the Georgia game the sub started and the official backed off the ball way to early, while the substitution was still ongoing. Georgia would have been facing 4th and long and needing to punt after that play. Instead it's 3rd and short, they get the first and score the go-ahead td.
@MS79Canesfan
@MS79Canesfan 4 күн бұрын
THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR VOICE ❤ ALL CONFERENCE REFS ARE @$$. BUT ITS FUNNY THEY CAN BET ON THE GAME.!
@Justin_Kipper
@Justin_Kipper 4 күн бұрын
In 2009, after a series of bogus calls against Arkansas in a game against Florida, the SEC suspended the officiating crew. I had to wonder what would inspire officials to make obviously bad calls. I really don't think it was a matter of incompetence, especially since it was biased in one direction. So, what could it be?
@davidbrock2397
@davidbrock2397 4 күн бұрын
Wow! Thank you. You said it all
@jmmurray1
@jmmurray1 4 күн бұрын
So what do we do to fix it?
@WhitneyGadison1
@WhitneyGadison1 4 күн бұрын
The conferences need to pay to get the refs some training. That can be a start
@JD_JD
@JD_JD 4 күн бұрын
Throwing the flag for a “penalty” that happens at the very beginning of the play, after the touchdown is caught absolutely throws red flags in the air for the refs having action on the game.
@stanleyday7293
@stanleyday7293 4 күн бұрын
In this case, the official should have thrown his hat to show that he believed the WR was covered up. The penalty flag would be thrown when the ball was touched.
@andrewemory6022
@andrewemory6022 4 күн бұрын
Nothing will happen without legal action.
@davidcole2337
@davidcole2337 4 күн бұрын
There is enough money to add Full Time Refs so the quality of Officiating would improved.
@zacmullins7811
@zacmullins7811 4 күн бұрын
Auburn & Tx AM game had some horrible calls/no calls A&M runs pick play no call, Auburn runs very similar play OPI A&M holds KLS back of jersey in end zone right in front of ref no call
@Cahigginbotham
@Cahigginbotham 4 күн бұрын
Get 'em' Josh
@chrissimmons6358
@chrissimmons6358 4 күн бұрын
Same crap happened in Auburn this weekend. Hugh Freeze had a major call reversed and ended up changing the whole game. All the horrible officiating and call should have prevented the game between Auburn and A&M from going into overtime. If the game had been called correctly from start the Aggies wouldve won without having to loss in overtime.
@stephenreaves3205
@stephenreaves3205 4 күн бұрын
As a Gamecock, I would LOVE a post-game interview with the refs
@Hazamandeous
@Hazamandeous 21 сағат бұрын
Bigten fan here. The SEC in particular has suffered from TERRIBLE officials. Its all over college football but the SEC is a poster child for how bad it is.
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 4 күн бұрын
Imagine being someone that watches both American college football and Premier league Football (soccer) and seeing both leagues’ referees get caught up in some of the most ridiculous situations in the same year.
@shaneoliver5574
@shaneoliver5574 4 күн бұрын
I’d like to see a legit investigation into this crew, seems like they’ve been selling games for a while now.
@CrazyMF3R
@CrazyMF3R 4 күн бұрын
2 TD's called back on Bama. Would've been a different game. They were still losing, but still...
@owenpetersen6289
@owenpetersen6289 4 күн бұрын
Other egregious reffing I've seen South Carolina getting absolutely screwed the entire game, especially on their game sealing 100 yard pick 6 called back for a completly legal block on the QB Tulane getting robbed of a win for an "offenseive pass interference" where the defender pressed him on the line and he kept going straight through him for his route- which was in the way of another receiver who caught the game tying TD with a minute left in the game. (Tulane would almost certainly be the G5 team right now if they only had 1 loss) Auburn getting blind refs on an intentional hold in OT where a DB purposefully grabbed the WR to prevent the game winning TD, but a hold or PI was still somehow never called. Then the very next play the refs called offensive PI on a play where the offensive players route didn't even make contact with the DB Then obviously what happened in the Bama game too
@4IdiotsGaming
@4IdiotsGaming 4 күн бұрын
I understand that the penalty was wrongly called, but the narrative that this was rigged since the flag wasn't called until the ball was caught in the end zone is objectively incorrect. Hearing Kirk talk about this for a few minutes straight was frustrating and I don't even have skin in this game. Illegal touching isn't a penalty until the moment an allegedly ineligible receiver touches the ball. I'm waiting for someone to explain to me how a flag for illegal touching can be thrown before a player touches the ball.
@BB-ce5ev
@BB-ce5ev 4 күн бұрын
The flag is thrown a second before the pass is caught anyway a pulled back replay shows this. Still sus though.
@4IdiotsGaming
@4IdiotsGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@BB-ce5ev yeah, it was an incorrect call, but the flag was thrown at the correct time. You can't throw a flag for illegal touching until an allegedly ineligible player touches or is about to touch the ball
@larryspradling9243
@larryspradling9243 4 күн бұрын
It is possible that the ref could throw the flag because the pass was thrown AT the ineligible receiver, idk?
@johnmuse6626
@johnmuse6626 3 күн бұрын
You can throw the flag early because it's a penalty whether he touches it or not. If he doesn't touch it on the play, it's ineligible man downfield. 5 yards but you keep the down. If he touches it, 5 yards, loss of down.
@marvelousrex2866
@marvelousrex2866 4 күн бұрын
Am I missing something here? I didn't see the game and don't know what the call was, but of the 3 wrs on the right side, the middle one, i think he said that was Williams, is covering the tight end on that side of the line. So its seems like he was actually the one who covered up someone and they just announced it wrong. Also, is that a tackle on the left side? If so, did he report as eligible? If not, then he can't possibly be covered up because there are already 11 guys in the frame. So that would also be an illegal formation. All I can see is a still, so I don't actually know how the play went down. Just trying to figure out what he's talking about.
@BamaBryan24
@BamaBryan24 4 күн бұрын
In College, ineligible numbers don't have to report. The TE did not go out for a pass. Totally blown call.
@johnmuse6626
@johnmuse6626 3 күн бұрын
A couple of seasons ago against Ole Miss, Tennessee had the game winning touchdown called off because officials made one of the worst calls in the history of the sport. Ole Miss snaps the ball to the QB, their OL doesn't move. Looks to be a trick play attempt as a back sneaks out of the backfield. Tennessee doesn't bite. They rush the QB, strip sack, scoop the ball and score. The officials follow the play, signal touchdown etc. No flags are thrown. No whistle is blown. The officials huddle and talk about it. They rule the play dead, remove the touchdown and give Ole Miss the ball back. They explain that one of them meant to blow the whistle and did not. Even though there was no reason to blow the whistle at all, as the ball was live snapped and there was no penalty. I'd never heard of intent to do something and not doing it from an official as a reason to remove a touchdown. That was why trash ultimately rained down on the field there. It was one of about 10 horrible calls in the game that all favored Ole Miss.
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