247zeroBETA2 : Motion and Extrusion - The Fastest Printer? (No, but it's cool anyways!)

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Let's see how I made the world's fastest Voron or maybe even the fastest FDM 3D printer!
Based on a Voron Zero ( Voron 0.2 ), I made a modded printer which printed the former world's fastest 3DBenchy in 02min25sec. It's called 247zero!
In part one of the mini series we check out what was necessary for the motion and extrusion system to do this! My 2min25sec 3DBenchy (247zeroB2) • "3DBenchy" printed in ...
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@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
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@megamasterbloc
@megamasterbloc Жыл бұрын
acceleration should be mesured in G at this point
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the re-upload - Adobe Premiere TRICKED ME :-)
@Nydid
@Nydid Жыл бұрын
And here I thought having only sound was an interesting choice
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like something Adobe software would do 😠
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Happens a LOT unfortunately. They can always relate on the hardware, drivers and whatever used, but my system is really quite common..
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
LOL. 247radio !
@russellalldredge9758
@russellalldredge9758 Жыл бұрын
That is okay, you got a new subscription out of it.
@GoughCustom
@GoughCustom Жыл бұрын
I love the absolutely insane printer movements showcased in the real-time demos! Thank-you for sharing all the work you've put into this!
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am glad you liked it!
@Nitram_3d
@Nitram_3d Жыл бұрын
This printer is mad... hop the next videos are at the same level as this master piece...
@Exstaz
@Exstaz Жыл бұрын
Even faster then your delta. But your delta look more sick when it prints!
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Nitram - did you just write "MASTER PIECE" ?!
@Repkord
@Repkord Жыл бұрын
This is all absolute madness and I am here for every bit of it! Thanks for sharing as always!
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
🥰
@Vez3D
@Vez3D Жыл бұрын
nice one Albert !! that printer is a beast !!
@eddietheengineer
@eddietheengineer Жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to seeing how much torque and speed output we can get from NEMA14 motors! I have a hunch the rated current is heat limited and not due to saturation, so we may have a lot to play with yet 😄 🔥
@kazolar
@kazolar Жыл бұрын
Nema 14s tend to have higher inductance, especially for the torque you get out of them, so the limiting factor will be back EMF. The ones I've seen are rated at 3.8Mh for 40Nm, that's gonna kill your max speed, even at 48v, that might hit 1000mm/sec, not much more, even running them under max current. Compare that to LDO nema 17s - much lower inductance at 1.5, and you can under current them and still get more torque and at 48v you can push over 2400 mm/sec.
@wsy2304
@wsy2304 Жыл бұрын
Could you in the future also explore the longevity of the motion system (belts, pulleys, bearings, etc) running at such speeds please?
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
On the list!
@IvanMatasic
@IvanMatasic Жыл бұрын
cant wait for the details! :)
@stimpyfeelinit
@stimpyfeelinit Жыл бұрын
thats so awesome next you should make the printbed move to increase the relative speed between it and the nozzle
@dtdionne
@dtdionne 10 ай бұрын
Love ur videos man, such great work…keep it up, it’s greatly appreciated.
@ianwie3455
@ianwie3455 Жыл бұрын
Like always crazy. Geil die outtakes.
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Ich mag jeden, der die Outtakes mag - der Abgrund rein in meine schwarze Seele!
@Roetz40
@Roetz40 Жыл бұрын
Awesome build! See you in part 2 ;))
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jan - see ya!
@TheZombieSaints
@TheZombieSaints Жыл бұрын
How does the hotend move that fast without flying off?! Next Level stuff mate! Just f'ing amazing!
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Thanks, man - low weight helps a lot here!
@lausi772
@lausi772 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@ThantiK
@ThantiK Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to try out C02 cooling. Feed liquid CO2 directly to the head, allowing sublimation of the CO2 to cool the part super rapidly. What are your thoughts?
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
I think this would have to be tried out! No clue (yet) how to, but sounds really interesting!
@SWAGMAGICIAN98
@SWAGMAGICIAN98 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work loving the videos
@Celciusify
@Celciusify Жыл бұрын
@3:04 Planning on tuning that 500 as well? Just ordered a Goliath as well, with the WC Hextrudort. Mine will never be a proper speedprinter, but this hotend/extruder combo seems amazing for speedprinting technical materials in enclosed printers.
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
I have a kit here, yes! I want to do some modest speeding up while staying at quality - need the size for a project!
@RichardBetel
@RichardBetel Жыл бұрын
I’m really curious if an airjet solid state fan moves enough air, decreases enough mass, and/or decreases enough vibrations to make any sort of useful difference.
@wrxsubaru02
@wrxsubaru02 Жыл бұрын
13:48 The fly did his inspection and he approves.
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Haha, you are a great observer! Just realized it when re-watching after uploading :-D
@andreasmohr7835
@andreasmohr7835 Жыл бұрын
Are the cooling shrouds for the NEMA 14s available somewhere? I think they where already part of the V0.0 version but I cannot find it anywhere...
@michaelrobinson9643
@michaelrobinson9643 11 ай бұрын
An extremely informative video. What do you work on aside from this type of Content? I'm new to 3D printers in a sense - but I've spent a lot of time on design of military aircraft - they go fast in a different way. I really appreciated the blend of discussion of the electrical and mechanical elements - having a bit of a unique education across electrical, mech, and material science I find this fascinating.
@daniladergachev
@daniladergachev 11 ай бұрын
can't wait for part2
@M4dM1ke
@M4dM1ke Жыл бұрын
This... Is... Awesome! 😁
@faxxzc
@faxxzc Жыл бұрын
Might be time to break the rules and step up to servos! You could make the gantry stiffer again for less overshoot, more quality
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Aren't those >=Nema23? Absolute overkill for that tiny printer :-D I don't like the idea really...
@faxxzc
@faxxzc Жыл бұрын
@@247printing Hi Albert, My reply must have gotten lost somewhere, there are DC servos in nema 17 size available! Check the JMC iHSV42 servos, they cost ~90€ and are available as 58 and 72 watt versions, and are fully rated with full torque up to 4000 rpm. I used the nema23 version in a high temperature printer i built for the Solvay AM cup. It moves my 10kg heavy Y axis easily at >5g‘s with no lost steps in sight, it really is fabulous, no regrets, all while being completely dead silent. Don’t hesitate to ask me questions about them if you want. Grüße Max
@kazolar
@kazolar Жыл бұрын
Increasing voltage makes sense, if you've decreased the mass you're moving, then the goal would be to run at the lowest current setting you can use to generate the torque needed. Coming from cnc world, the reason for using 60v PSUs is to get decent speeds at high torque as the goal is to overcome emf. Using low inductance steppers will get the best results. You can increase current while not hitting max rpm due to emf, there are emf calculators that can help you find the max theoratical speed you can achieve. Try to lower your current while running at 50v, and you should be able to hit higher speeds. With a light gantry and extruder, you're not torque limited.
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for that very precious comment - didn't know that 60V is common in the CNC world! As a FDM printer is also a CNC - why not go at high voltage...?
@kazolar
@kazolar Жыл бұрын
@@247printing I run my 5'x3' CNC with hybrid servos on 60V DC because if you do the math EMF on 48V would limit my travels. CNC world, no one is even trying to go over 200mm/sec, it's not practical to move 30-50kgb gantry+spindle faster. Keep accels to 200-300mm/sec -- yea, very different than a 3D printer. Main thing to keep in mind is current is torque, voltage is speed. CNCs need a LOT of torque, there is the moving weight, and there is the resistance of what you're cutting, wood, metal etc. So my Y axis needs a nema 34 at 6A of current(max). When you calculate the back EMF at that current, you need more voltage. I even tried running it at 90v DC, but in US with 120 AC mains, a 90V DC PSU is really sketchy. If 60V DC setup wasn't going to work, I was going to move to 240 AC, since my spindle runs on 240 already. For 3D printers you can absolutely go up in voltage, but you need external drivers that can support it. Step sticks and other small trinamics, 55v as you're doing is really pushing it. There are plenty of really good external drivers that can run on 60-90V DC. In Europe with 240 from mains, you can get a 90V DC PSU to run very nicely. Look up EMF max RPM calculators, plug in your current, inductance and voltage -- boom you get theoretical max motor RPM, with corexy it will take a bit of math to calculate RPM relation to actual speed. I have a big printer with 2 heavy gantries that I've lightened as much as I can so far, and I run them on 2 nema 23s on each side and I lower the current to under 50% of max rating because the nema 23s provide much more torque than I need, but I can push speeds higher, for a big printer I can hit 500m/sec at 10k acceleration and only at 24v. If I max out the current 300 mm/sec is max. Printers use belts, usually, so 1 RPM = even with a 16t pulley is 32mm of movement, on a CNC, like mine with direct driven ball screws, 1 RPM is 5mm of movement, you need a lot more RPMs to hit target speeds, thats why on bigger CNCs, you either go with higher pitched ballscrews (I wanted precision, so I didn't) or you go with servos and more voltage so you can spin them faster.
@xankersmith9194
@xankersmith9194 Жыл бұрын
Once the core of the motors saturate, the have the same magnetic permeability as air. That's why your acceleration still increases after you saturate them, but at a lower rate. This is because the magnetic permeability is much higher in unsaturated ferrite core. Also, torque is proportional to magnetic field, which is somewhat proportional to magnetic permeability of the core.
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I'll check the theory on those key words!
@1afchannel
@1afchannel Жыл бұрын
Will geared steppers work? Or bigger pulleys. Might lose some resolution though.
@_Xantras_
@_Xantras_ Жыл бұрын
If it's fun, then it's not useless. Love your stuff ! Also I remembered when you said you used this big Z motor for fast layer change : why not using a belted Z instead ? Could've made the BOM lower and the back of the printer less crowded ?
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! That's also one of my philosophies!
@scyonyc
@scyonyc Жыл бұрын
Really game changer beast bro
@user-gk9ut9qc1o
@user-gk9ut9qc1o 9 ай бұрын
Damn, amazing!
@kilianlindlbauer8277
@kilianlindlbauer8277 Жыл бұрын
What i have found out: using stiffer filament for the xy joints really helps with acceleration. On my v0.2 with a fat boi lgx lite, microprobe, canbus board and bigger 4010 fans on the toolhead i got additional 2,5k acceleration by just switching from regular abs to glass fiber reinforced abs. Recommended acceleration went up to 16,8k from just above 15k, even though the glass fibers increased the moving mass ever so slightly. So you may want to try a stiffer filament for some quality improvements. Here i could recommend pc gf or pa cf from cr3d or the super strong filament from igus
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Light weight and strong/stiff does the trick yeah! Though your rather "slight" improvement (+12%) could also be due to belt re-tensioning in between the change? Just guessing!
@kilianlindlbauer8277
@kilianlindlbauer8277 Жыл бұрын
@@247printing could be, although klipper never has recommended in that region before the switch. Did several tension settings, all about the same. Oh, forgot to mention i also printed the x carriage out of the abs gf20, i can imagine that this part has an even bigger influence than the xy joints
@ventusprime
@ventusprime Жыл бұрын
8:51 i don't have a tick tock
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
You don't really need - KZbin is sufficient :-)
@jzagaja
@jzagaja Жыл бұрын
do you know MFI value of that filaments? I'd like to see comparison standard MFI 8 and high flow 30-60g/10min.
@kamilhorvat8290
@kamilhorvat8290 Жыл бұрын
Any tips for high temp PLA, which could be used as a substitute of Uber-PLA?
@tech_world_modz
@tech_world_modz 5 ай бұрын
I want the files for them feet on the voron, they look good on there and now im going on a mission to find them or make them
@berfava
@berfava Жыл бұрын
Beware of an "invisible" problem there. The umbilical breakout board. AFter lots of troubleshooting I found out my umbilical cable connectors were not as solid as I thought, especially the backside one which connects to the fixed oblong board. The issue is the continuous back-and-forth movement of the head, aggravated by the relatively short umbilical cable lenght, causing the conector(s) to undergo rather extreme tilting angles. That may cause brief interruptions in some of the cables. This problem is equivalent to introducing a randomized PWM in some of the cables connected to the print-head, generating all kinds of nasty consequences like faulty heaters, false temperature runway fails, lagging thermistor data and extruder stepper with unstable voltage/current supply. It is challenging to diagnose this problem in real-time with standard metrology equipment like cheap multimeters but you may be able to see it with the printer turned off, measuring the resistance of each connection while gently applying back and forth pressure to the each end of the umbilical cable. I just got rid of mine after all.
@WickityWack
@WickityWack Жыл бұрын
Are those XL grippers compatible with the normal 0.2?
@npetalas
@npetalas 6 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff, just learning about it all now. I'm guessing you've thought of all this before but just asking for learning purposes: Would a stiffer frame not help at all? HBR25 rails or whatever CNC machines use? What about a more sophisticated base / platform to minimize vibrations? Maybe even some kind of active vibration compensation system?
@OneHappyCrazyPerson
@OneHappyCrazyPerson 8 ай бұрын
What filament is that in the box being used ?
@ASCENDANTGAMERSAGE
@ASCENDANTGAMERSAGE Жыл бұрын
Have you considered using carbon fiber for all of the moving parts? You can get crazy stiffness and lightness. It's also a material that benefits greatly from being able to know the direction of force before manufacturing which is exactly what's needed here. Easy Composites has a bunch of tutorials on KZbin explaining different process to make carbon fiber. They also sell carbon fiber rods and are UK-based.
@nomnam7352
@nomnam7352 Жыл бұрын
More phases for higher torque in the stepper motors might help right?
@Ataraxia_Atom
@Ataraxia_Atom Жыл бұрын
Do you model those cross beams? I have a license solidworks simulation if you ever wanted to FEA them before manufacturing
@TheMidnight366366
@TheMidnight366366 6 ай бұрын
I wonder how complicated it'd be to belt a stepper to the top of the toolhead to get all the benefits from a direct drive extruder without the weight of the motor. You'd probably have to make a spring tension system because it moves around, but it'd help quality. Might even speed it up because better control over pressure.
@maxallen9768
@maxallen9768 5 ай бұрын
Insane printer! I’m wondering if you have a name/any resources for the cooling solution you use with the fan ducts attached to the frame. I’d like to use something similar, but cannot find any information whatsoever about this style of design. Thanks
@247printing
@247printing 5 ай бұрын
Thx.! These are my designs and not released yet. Coming soon as soon as I am happy with the quality.
@exp3rt468
@exp3rt468 Жыл бұрын
Moin! One question regarding going even faster in the future. Do you think systems, like the Annex-Engineering K3 with using only the linear rails for X and Y and 4 motor drive, will be the future? I think it would probably be a bit less stiffer than the V0 but if you someone would build one with a smaller print volume, for more stiffness, and a bowden extruder, it would be a propper challenger for the V0 design.
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
That mechanical system is pretty much the Ultimaker style of cartesian with motors on frame, but with extra motors and linear rails instead of the circular bars. One advantage is a symmetrical weight distribution on X and Y.
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Servus! Yes I am very tempted by that motion system (CroXY) and I have a feeling about it being the next big thing in the near future. (What CoreXY just became in the mainstream market)
@deltacx1059
@deltacx1059 Жыл бұрын
13:13 if there is a difference between theory and what is measured then the theory might be missing something. Unless the rotor was taken out and modeled I'd say it probably wasn't fully saturated if you got more torque from it.
@gavnivag7436
@gavnivag7436 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about a odrive to run the core xy with Servo motors?
@ouqdo2358
@ouqdo2358 Жыл бұрын
In your opinion what’s the most important thing to keep in mind for a fast corexy (motors, speed, weight…)
@3Dgifts
@3Dgifts 10 ай бұрын
Is it possible to scale the printer and have the same type of speed? Build volume of 1000mm x 1000mm x 1???mm ? Also, what is the quality of parts printed at these high speeds and the durability? Love your videos by the way, subscribed to you channel and newsletter.
@ventusprime
@ventusprime Жыл бұрын
13:26 YES i have 1 why you have to use the cooling block on the hot end you could use a airgap - because this printer is fast and gets extra air from the fans. 2 It would be interesting to use a lineal motor on the Y axis , like the motors in pick and place machines.
@ventusprime
@ventusprime Жыл бұрын
ok you could say ok OP why dont you build that , the same reason I have no time , and place mostly space.
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually working on a printer with a linear magnetic motor motion system but it's slow going, magnets are expensive and doing all the FEA simulations for the magnetic fields and forces has been a whole lot more work than I anticipated.
@ventusprime
@ventusprime Жыл бұрын
@@oliverer3 Yes that is the name of the game, after a point the work or money is exponentional
@benkutzbach3500
@benkutzbach3500 Жыл бұрын
@247printing maybe you could use LWPLA for the structure parts. Use normal pla for the shell and stiffness but use the LWPLA for the infill and you could shave some weight
@benkutzbach3500
@benkutzbach3500 Жыл бұрын
@Broskisnowski The thing is that the normal PLA has more strenght than the not foamed LWPLA at my institute we did test for this and the normla pla was stronger than the LWPLA (not foamed)
@coltenmeredith8899
@coltenmeredith8899 Жыл бұрын
Albert, I got a question for you. I also got to tell you I stopped working my extruder I told you about. I was trying to solve a problem that didnt exist...Anyway: Could you link me to the printed X gantry you used on the old 247 zero? You said you printed it out of PET-CF. I want to print that as a start for my 247 zero build, just because I dont want the price to shoot up immediately.
@hirt.3dprint
@hirt.3dprint 10 ай бұрын
I would love to test the circle speed file 😅
@CaseyKoehn-vi5em
@CaseyKoehn-vi5em 4 ай бұрын
What kind of filament is that
@Zer0s123
@Zer0s123 Жыл бұрын
Some violent vibrations! Concrete frame might help?
@daniilknigin8713
@daniilknigin8713 8 ай бұрын
Great wedeo
@tomasis7
@tomasis7 Жыл бұрын
very cool!
@user-zc8wy2cn5d
@user-zc8wy2cn5d 7 ай бұрын
mi piacerebbe avere i piedi della stampante com ei tuoi, cosa devo fare per averli? grazie
@stefanmerk5750
@stefanmerk5750 Жыл бұрын
Schönen Abend. Frage: Wann wird Version A2/B2 als Model bereit sein?
@jyching1914
@jyching1914 Жыл бұрын
The poop should be a benchmark for how much a printer can extrude within a specific period for a given z distance.
@Exstaz
@Exstaz Жыл бұрын
Clever segway :)
@theviperman3
@theviperman3 Жыл бұрын
13:48 HouseFLY!!!!! Lol
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
😁
@hondoonaka1823
@hondoonaka1823 Жыл бұрын
Watching the extruder extrude those massive piles of filament….. I could smell it through the screen, the smell of my printer has been ingrained into my brain
@mouserr
@mouserr Жыл бұрын
considering the benchy was recognizable as one ... huge success with much room for improvement
@lolloTTraveller
@lolloTTraveller Жыл бұрын
where can you find the stl files for the widened feet?
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Not published yet
@simontanguay3619
@simontanguay3619 Жыл бұрын
For motor cooling at high current, have you considered something beefier than those 4010 noctuas? They produce neither high airflow nor high static pressure, so they are not ideal for this kind of application. Larger fans (4020, 4028, 6025) or liquid cooling (like Vez is doing on his steppers) could let you achieve lower operational temperature.
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Very good point! I had a line in the script like "For those currents I'd need to step up the fans for the stepper cooling", but I deleted it, because I don't want to encourage the public to try those high temps, before I did more testing.
@AssidiousBlue
@AssidiousBlue Жыл бұрын
@@247printing a simple water cooling setup would work nicely and overcome the surface area/local space limitations. There are even pre-made water blocks for stepper motors, although I’m sure the quality varies quite a lot and a trio of completely closed-loop CPU coolers May actually be easier.
@antronk
@antronk Жыл бұрын
Do you see AWD feasible? There seems to be room at the front idlers :)
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker Жыл бұрын
I half expect to see some kind of liquid cooling for the steppers to show up at some point. Just to see if one can squeak just that much more from them, I admit I have no clue how one would do it as I personally have doubts on those water blocks I have seen that just screw onto the back plate. Seems like one would need to get the sides of the motor as well. The benchy is ugly but this is NHRA Top Fuel Printing, The whole idea is brute speed. after all you do not play at 11 for audio fidelity you do it because its one louder.
@L0615T1C
@L0615T1C Жыл бұрын
can someone link me the macro to test acceleration shown on the video?
@maxyt569
@maxyt569 Жыл бұрын
He wrote it, it's just a string of g1 commands
@Da-Real-Gigachad
@Da-Real-Gigachad Жыл бұрын
Sorry that i even have to ask, but wHAt filLamEnT Did yoU USe?
@Nairod785
@Nairod785 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried sorbothane to greatly reduce vibrations ? This is magic material to dampen
@senegalus
@senegalus Жыл бұрын
nice, i see your next project should be watercooling your motors :D
@WertzuHans
@WertzuHans 6 ай бұрын
Still not STl files. I want to print the foots.
Жыл бұрын
Be nice to see the quality of your prints at a reasonable speed like 200/mms
@grathado28
@grathado28 Жыл бұрын
I love this dudes wideos 😅
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
I love making Phüdijos
@BrunoTorrente
@BrunoTorrente 11 ай бұрын
Accelerometers and an algorithm compensating for movements could greatly improve print quality.
@TheJunnariii
@TheJunnariii Жыл бұрын
When you're talking about the rated current of the motor, 1.68A in your example. It only means that it is the continuos current where the motor can operate without getting too hot. This has been set by the manuafacter and it does not count active cooling. So you can exceed the rated current if you are able to keep the motors temperature low enough for it to not break. So in that sense exceeding the rated current is not a limit of your motors theoretical capabilities. The higher current you give to your motor the more torque it has. But when you increase the frequency of your pulses there comes in another factor that is inductance. Inductance (milliHenries, mH) tells how fast your coil is able to reach its maxium current. Let's say your motors coil achieves its fully energized state in 5ms. If your steps take 9ms each, the coil has time to be fully "energized" for 4ms. It is already less than half of the step at the maxium torque. When you increase the stepping frequency even higher for example 3ms, your motors coil has no longer time to be fully "energized". In the following example the slow rising of the current caused by the inductance is linear. We can only reach 3/5 (calculated 3ms/5ms) of the maxium current each step. In this situation increasing the current helps because 3/5 of 3 amps is a lot more than of a 2 amps. In summary choose a low inductance motor, use as high voltage as possible and make sure the current is as close to maximium as possible without destroying the motor. There's a good and short post about this if you google search "LinuxCNC Stepper motor inductance".
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH!
@martinmarkmarkovics7754
@martinmarkmarkovics7754 Жыл бұрын
Bolt it to the wall. When you come down to THAT speed, the whole body, and the table it self, just shakes.. Even better if u get a corner, and anchor 2 sides.
@GrahamFox
@GrahamFox Жыл бұрын
Bro is over here printing in the year 3000
@TheMrPopper69
@TheMrPopper69 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if you could bowden high speed cold air into the print
@unharmonix
@unharmonix 7 ай бұрын
berd
Жыл бұрын
Smooth sponsor transition there lol
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
😇
@thedanishmaker9490
@thedanishmaker9490 6 ай бұрын
Any news on this? :D
@hd-be7di
@hd-be7di 11 ай бұрын
Omg I wanna build this little monster so bad... mount a Goliath / HextrudORT on it
@ZURAD
@ZURAD Жыл бұрын
I think it's time to start breaking the speedboat rules. We can go even faster!
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
For sure, but for comparability it's nice to stick to it. Prusa showed with the MK4 gcode how much faster it can be with lowering walls etc.
@ZURAD
@ZURAD Жыл бұрын
@@247printing Sure, walls are one thing. I'm thinking less in the way of changing the slice, but more like moving to BLDCs for faster motion. A second look at the constraints would be neat.
@JoeTaber
@JoeTaber Жыл бұрын
Wow! Next, bolt it to a concrete floor and use input shaping.
@skelten454
@skelten454 Жыл бұрын
This might be something extremely dumb, but have you considered stepping down the grade of belt for the x/y. I am not sure what belt size is on there currently but it would be like going from HTD5mm to GT3mm(those are some belt sizes I have used). It could save a few grams of the moving mass and potently reduce the size of the bearings. The big down side to this is it would increase the amount of stretch in the belts.
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
Very nice idea - didn't even know there are small ones. Maybe those are sufficient!
@jamesash7368
@jamesash7368 Жыл бұрын
" i might be a German engineer, but considering I'm really behind on my schedule" sounds like you might be an English engineer
@IBUILTTHAT
@IBUILTTHAT Жыл бұрын
But what about print quality?
@bartekburmistrz8679
@bartekburmistrz8679 Жыл бұрын
Do you plan on switching to BLDC motors ? They are faster and have higher efficiency.
@MrBlackmidi1234567890987654321
@MrBlackmidi1234567890987654321 Жыл бұрын
would not comply with the speed benchy rules
@paperfoldschannel607
@paperfoldschannel607 Жыл бұрын
what is the secret PLA
@jonathanritter5505
@jonathanritter5505 Жыл бұрын
I want to know the filament it looks delicious
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
The hair of Antonio Banderas
@s0d4c4n
@s0d4c4n 6 ай бұрын
Why don't people like racing clean benchies? Seems like just as interesting of a challenge and much more useful?
@hunszaszist
@hunszaszist 9 ай бұрын
This might be an ignorant question, but... why don't you just use the pathing of a 3D Benchy for testing? Scale it up if you want the printhead to move a lot more than a 100% benchy, but otherwise it has all the properties of what the printer does during a print.
@TheMuaddibdune
@TheMuaddibdune Жыл бұрын
Not checkin any of your future video unless you say "hurakan" at least one time within that... Keep up a slendid work ;)
@turtel5649
@turtel5649 Жыл бұрын
I like it, picasso! 😅
@jdaggs
@jdaggs Жыл бұрын
Have you considered some vibration dampening? For example if you extended your vertical frame into a block of gravel/epoxy that might dampen the vibration a little bit and give you better quality.
@Drumaier
@Drumaier Жыл бұрын
Bowden extrusion like "direct who?"
@damen1575
@damen1575 Жыл бұрын
use ac servos
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