25 Challenging Shifts Coming For Christianity | Matt Dabbs

[@revolutionofordinaries]

What change do you see coming that will be a healthy shift for Christianity?

[@delinquentinparadise]

Maybe they will stop telling lies about the Hasmonean King known as Jesus. But I doubt it.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

@@delinquentinparadise Huh?

[@jawjuh1005]

I’m looking forward to the changes you speak of. I can’t wait. I have an issue now where there are no home churches where I am and I’m know I’m not qualified to start one. All the churches around me are larger seeker churches. I feel like I’m in a desert.

[@DanKnight]

@@jawjuh1005 I feel your heart for it's been my feeling as well for the past 10 years. But let's remind each other of this: Jesus said: "I will build my church". It's not you or me, it's the Holy Spirit. What we - especially we who have the yearning for these changes, but not feeling qualified to start one - is first, ask God to send our area a planter for the church, and be willing to have Him empower and inspire us to be that planter. Keeping in mind it's His Church.

[@jawjuh1005]

@@DanKnight absolutely!

[@donaldnord2895]

Thankyou Brother Matt.....Your evaluations and observations are bang on. We have divorced ourselves from what Jesus had intended....big corporate constructs with myriads of divisive understanding that divides and scatters the...ONE.. true faith into many clusters of churches....one competing over the other etc etc. And your absolutely correct about your critique of Constantine. The way the churches have set up there corporate icons has created vast volumes of people with little knowledge of scripture but saturated with dogmas, traditions.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

That's rock solid Donald...thank you so much for that feedback. We have a long way to go but God will get us there!

[@bethlemmon]

I hope and pray you are correct, I so want to be part of a house church, however I can't find them in my area. Also, the vocations like pastor and colleges like seminary will not like this, it's a business and career for so many Christians. they will fight this in my opinion.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Some will fight it but the younger generation will grow up in a different situation. The old guard needs to bless new things.

[@Inspiron6000LSB]

Maybe the Lord is inviting you to open a house church yourself. Maybe you can just start by a brief praying gathering with one, two o three brethren. Let the Spirit to guide you. Blessings !

[@peterlyne6961]

Thanks Matt, You have described what we are also seeing in Australia. Covid tossed us out of buildings and into small gatherings for several months. The return to the 'old normal' was such a backward step, we hungered for the intimacy and connection we experienced in House Fellowship. We have returned to home fellowships, being underground took so much burden of meaningless paper shuffling away. We are now being Church. Street Corner Christianity is disappearing fast down under, but the underground Church is growing for all the reasons you mentioned.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Love this Peter...God had his hand in that shakeup!

[@robertkersten3971]

Wow! Matt, you’ve nailed it with this segment. Every thing you’ve mentioned is a return to the Biblical model that we find described within the pages of the New Testament when the Church was functioning under the leadership of the Holy Spirit. What you’ve contrasted is the difference between an institutionalized religious organization and organic ecclesia. I’m hoping to play a part in this upcoming transformation back to the forgotten ways. By the way, that’s the title of a book authored by Alan Hirsch, that deals with this very subject. 👍

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Yes! It is a great book...don't *forget* the handbook!

[@joelfields9807]

I hope this is true!. We have now had our first 2 house church meetings and the first thing I noticed was more prayer and opportunity for others to add to the meeting I really love but my kids mostly are struggling with the adjustment

[@cherubimX]

Greetings from Germany. Your videos are a breath of fresh air to me. For too long I was under the impression, that there was no biblical alternative, to the Western church model. I‘ve been a Christian now for 23 years, and I‘m sick and tired of Churchianity .

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Thank you for your comment...I have been away a few weeks but am back at the videos!

[@markpatterson4794]

I agree with all 25 points that you have shared. We put our hand to the plow and stay focused on Jesus, He will build His church. Help us O God to live " Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on the earth as it is in heaven". Keep up the great work you are doing and I'll see you on the other side at the banqueting table!

[@revolutionofordinaries]

See you there Mark! In the meantime we press on!

[@PMM4JC]

Excellent! Hallelujah ❤🙏

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@diannaroeder9661]

Prayer should definitely be a part of the cornerstone to a closer relationship with God. Yes, we are the church, the walking/talking hands and feet of God. So glad you shared this important message.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Thank you Dianna! Thanks for watching.

[@maxfaubus3116HiddenChurch]

Speaking my heart!

[@revolutionofordinaries]

So so glad Max! Thanks for watching.

[@Tilly-767]

Wow! Very good points. Keep sharing Holy Spirit filled wisdom. That is what will bring fruitfulness in the body of Christ. God bless you. Keep walking in the narrow path. Any and all things done according to the will of God are the good and right and best way.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

God bless you Tilly! I appreciate you leaving a comment and your encouraging words!

[@Tilly-767]

@@revolutionofordinaries That's what brothers and sisters in Christ are to do....where it is due. It's refreshing to have someone on youtube regularly speak out what the Bible says and teaches. Have a blessed week.....and into the weekend.

[@cathcolwell2197]

This is what I want- communal and real prayer. Yes, churches are shrinking, but the big non-denominational churches are big because some people like to get their’faith’ bit done and be on their way. Also, folks like to have a sense of belonging to, being associated with, something big, bright and sexy ; maybe that’s not the faith, but…

[@RogerFranklin-lf8ib]

Amen! Thank you Brother. Reassuring to hear other's perspectives, with the same principles. All the times and ways God said " return to me". His designs and patterns. Also identify the Kings and Priests Christ ordained in His Disciples, the Government. Spiritual and Civil responsibilities. Blessings

[@revolutionofordinaries]

God bless you Roger and thanks for the comment!

[@MisterBill593]

Agree 100%.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Thank you Bill! Appreciate you watching.

[@newlifecentere]

Back in the early eighties we had a house church. We called it a cell group. Made popular by Dr Cho. You are spot on in this video.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Dr Cho...haven't heard his name in a while.

[@newlifecentere]

@@revolutionofordinaries the principles set forth in his books are worth reading. Some other books I was reading at that time were Watchman Nee, George Müller, The Steps of Humility and Pride Book by Bernard of Clairvaux, plus many others. Prayer is what kept us flying the Word kept us grounded and love made us grow. I do see a resurgence in home churches. Actually we at the beginning stages of building a prayer and healing center and we so happen are beginning in our home. Faith, food and fellowship anybody.

[@bongodrums1000]

I agree with this list. Church for many people has become a passive entertainment experience but Jesus called us into an active lifestyle of following him. I've talked to a number of people in the last few years who have stopped attending a church, not because they quit believing but because they craved something deeper than most churches offer. I think there are many others who feel that but don't know what to do. What they want is discipleship. Unfortunately, that has so rarely been taught in the past several decades that they don't understand what that means. I think these shifts you listed will come in the next few years, possibly because persecution will force us to make them.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

That’s a good summary of what we are seeing as well. Thank you for watching and for your comment.

[@robertkersten3971]

I too, believe that persecution will precede the next Great Awakening, and will facilitate many of the changes here described.

[@mdhorton9]

A really great list, including some quite controversial points! My son’s family left their imploding CoC congregation during Covid and joined a Syrian orthodox congregation nearby (which completely ignored the state Covid restrictions that destroyed the CoC group.) I have been intensely studying Orthodox thought.. there are many more differences from Catholicism than we have thought. It is amazing how many of your projections are just taken for granted in the Syrian orthodox community (though certainly not all.) 2/3 of the congregations are converts from Protestant and catholic churches. My teen granddaughter just placed second in an intense 2.5 hour oral competition on Paul’s Roman letter. When the CoC grandparents visit, we are embraced and treated like visiting royalty. They recognize CoC immersion as valid.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

God is opening up doors, hearts and minds to see things we just couldn't see before. He is also closing a lot of doors that needed to be closed.

[@cathcolwell2197]

Meeting during Covid is/was just trying to make a statement, maybe a political statement. Nothing to do w the faith.

[@chidiugwunna1467]

EXACTLY

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Thank you and God bless you...appreciate your comment.

[@lindamolitor9884]

You are already seeing some of this in rural areas with the shrinking church. However, they often have the advantage of already being deeply connected to one another.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Rural areas end up with fewer options faster than urban areas...so that's a great observation!

[@freeandfabulous4310]

This is so interesting. We are members of a beautiful mega church and I’ve become concerned that the business end to grow the numbers to support all the things is the priority and not sustainable nor religious.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Lots of prayer on that one...that can be the drift. It has to be fought come what may.

[@dgh5223]

The small church we were in constantly needed money for something which most of the money went back into the church building.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

That is a necessity of that model that comes with the territory if that is the model you accept/embrace and it isn't all bad if it is producing kingdom fruit.

[@paulwiederhold7629]

The awesome motivational value of many churches has worn thin. Great coffee, great music, great motivational speeches have all been replaced by 1 to 2 minute Tik Tok videos. The trend started when young people would buy a pair of socks as long as the company gave a pair to homeless; buy shoes as long as a free pair went to children. They want more than good music and a good message - they want to impact the community (the world). My thought on the decline is : 1/3 struggle to find the "being the church" instead of "going to church". 1/3 have put their faith in technology to save this world. And only 1/3 have found that "sacrificial no name disciple making church"

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Great assessment Paul. At some point it becomes easy to see the emperor has no clothes...it just takes a few people to say it out loud from public enough places to get more people to see it.

[@ElizabethWilliams-d8l]

Here's a thought : Of all the reasons that churches are losing members, no one has suggested the disrespect that churches have shown to women - for centuries. Treating women as tho they are not as intelligent as men, marginalizing their contributions to the church, and the abuse of women and children by clergy. Women are fed up with the attitude of male dominance in the church. Plenty of men can't be trusted to be leaders of their households, much less leaders of the faith.

[@daleparker741]

One reason for registering with the state is for the purpose of weddings. Depending on the laws of the state and the regulations for a wedding officiant. That is why I registered.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

That's for individuals, not for churches and it varies by denomination because it usually has some kind of ordination requirement and ordination varies from group to group. At least, that's my experience.

[@mdhorton9]

The state has no standing before JHWH to be involved in marriage… the antichrist are using this intrusion to mock Christ’s eternal purpose to be one with his bride… state “licenses” need to go the way of 501c3 corporation “churches.”

[@trevino37]

Hope you are right on all of this but have seen more on home churching...just hope that the home church does not become a home church system, and becoming only a mini church with no real difference...

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Oh man, that's spot on...we don't need another system but we gravitate toward systems!

[@leehagewood9300]

I'd be curious to hear your thoughts sometime on the shift a significant number of (often Evangelical) Protestants are making to Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

I see it too....I think people are seeking something deep, old, and meaningful. Something that has a transcendant feel about it and not just the ordinary feeling of seeker senstive where we tried to make the assembly so much like the world that you often couldn't tell the difference.

[@kellywhalen5021]

Can you please explain further 'a shift from donations to marketplace' I'm not understanding what you mean by marketplace where donations (giving) are concerned

[@revolutionofordinaries]

Ministers who now rely on donations will have to get other jobs once the donations are no longer enough to support all the staff. And that will put the ministers in the marketplace and give them new connections and skills that they didn't have before. That will further the spread of the gospel rather than keep them insulated in the church walls.

[@cathcolwell2197]

Where can I find a home church?

[@revolutionofordinaries]

There are some sites online that track some of them.

[@PMM4JC]

I have to be careful NOT to become an accuser of the brethren! Churches struggle but they have always had struggles.

[@revolutionofordinaries]

I don't know if you caught it but the video is actually hopeful more than it is negative. I think this shifts are coming and it is going to be hard but great for the kingdom!

[@trevino37]

All these changes mentioned are all incidental to circumstance and not due to biblical reasons. There are many whom have left the church system because what they see and experience is not aligned to scripture, then there are those you mention that leave the church system for the many reasons you stated. Two separate groups. If this bn is the case, then home churches will just become another church system. I’ve already seen people promoting classes and training in how to develop a home church. If this is the case, each denomination will provide their individual system based on their denomination. I would feel much better if the church system was decreasing because people realized it’s not aligned to scriptures. Under the circumstances you stated, it gives me no real hope for Chang. It’s just evolving into another type of system

[@revolutionofordinaries]

There will be a million people doing it a million ways - it isn't really a question of whether or not things systematize a bit...the bigger question is, are we surrendering to King Jesus in how we are going about it or are we just trying to brand it again?