250 Goliaths vs 100 Void Rays, who wins?

[@Tya.]

It's time for the goliath saga's final boss. Round 1 ▶ 250 Goliaths vs 100 Void Rays Round 2 ▶ 125 Infested Terrans vs 25 Battlecruisers Round 3 ▶ 900 Zealots (0/0) vs 10 Ultralisks (3/3) Round 4 ▶ 80 Ghosts vs 200 Reapers

[@joshstraub6972]

pog

[@metalheart158]

You should do the battles from the Hots and Lotv trailers. Meaning 1) viking vs Leviathan 2) Marines vs lings and hydras 3) tanks and vikings vs ultralisks 4) Marines and tanks vs lings banes and ultras 5) mutas vs BCs 6) zealots and Hts vs lings, banes an dhydras 7) zealots vs banes 8) hts vs lings 9) ultras vs archons.

[@JosueC730]

Now could you please redo this but give all upgrades to all units? Goliath without Charoon Boosters is almost as good as useless, also zealots without upgrades...

[@aname.whatdidyouexpect1877]

please give them the range upgrades, also can we see the ascendant in battle?

[@КарлКарыч]

Zealots: we strike as one Ultras: It feels exactly like only one of you is fighting

[@jerubaal101]

Tbf, the Zealots were 0/0.

[@eadbert1935]

@@jerubaal101 the 0/0 actually convinced me they'd lose i mean, the ultras had an average of about 85 kills, i wasn't that far off xD

[@idodeclare6804]

they won though, ultra sucks

[@КарлКарыч]

@@idodeclare6804 85400 minerals vs 3000 minerals and 2000 gas is not really a win tbh

[@idodeclare6804]

@@КарлКарыч it's 3/3 against 0/0, that resource difference is to be expected.

[@JustInCaseD]

Honestly if I’ve learned anything from this channel: it’s that the Goliaths pretty much always lose. They’re a freebie vote that this point lol

[@FFF813]

They beat the grounded Vikings

[@squidmanfedsfeds5301]

And banelings always win

[@WonderlandGhost]

Yea, as a unit they honestly kinda suck

[@HungryWildboar]

@@WonderlandGhost love ‘em in the campaign, even if they do suck

[@WonderlandGhost]

@@HungryWildboar I enjoy em but honestly i just rather use a marine or 3 for the same cost, plus the gas can be used for tanks instead which are just a better use of the gas in campaign, you never need heavy anti air really until the final mission and even then you have vikings that do the job better then they ever could, hell 3 to 6 are all ya need most missions if you even need to

[@beefchalupa]

4/4, did not think the battle cruiser one would be that tight though. Got me puckering hard at the end.

[@jasonvrba4644]

Good example of why we don’t have infested terrans anymore

[@davidjeanmichel8358]

@@jasonvrba4644 in pvp in past they were not that strong and they were doing the same damages than marins.

[@jasonvrba4644]

@@davidjeanmichel8358 in pvt they were amazing lmao. Their dps is abt the same as marines except they’re free and you could spawn a shit ton under/around your opponents whole army

[@Xpwnxage]

@@jasonvrba4644 Aren't they a Zerg unit tho?

[@jasonvrba4644]

@@Xpwnxage a free one

[@kirimaru73]

Zealot: We strike as ONE damage

[@Nqk2010]

1/4: My bet on Goliaths - Oops, Void rays so strong 2/4: No chance for the infester - Wow, so close 3/4: Easy win for Zealots - Not so easy 4/4: Ghost must win with sniping - Just too many reaper

[@Chara-yp6zj]

Ai grenades are a force to be reckoned with just like blink stalkers.

[@TheIhtiander]

2/4 Thought Goliath could do but there were not enough space for them to attack while Voids could stack to focus shot. I expected Zealots to win but I saw they had 0 upgrade and thought maybe Ultralisks can make it, but they still lost.

[@dutubsucks]

I was thinking that the Goliaths would win because of their range. But I forgot that they don't have the BW range upgrade in SC2...

[@Devestator2150]

They DO, it’s just that Tya never gives it to them…. They get +3 air range and +1 ground range, AND there is an upgrade that lets them shoot air and ground at the same time.

[@eadbert1935]

goliaths lose because overkill just imagine all the lost damage actually being applied, would've been surely another 5-10 voids down (and these voids would've dealt less dmg, so it's more like 8-15 more voids down) but yeah, zealots impressed me as well :D

[@dimitarlinov2393]

To be fair, zealots have a lot of hp + 2 attacks.

[@WaterCrane]

I knew the Wings of Liberty mission that recommended the Goliath against Void Rays was a load of rubbish!

[@Late0NightPC]

Keep in mind this matchup didn't at all play to their strengths, mainly their really large AA range(9 range after the upgrade), meaning stutter stepping forward is critical, or otherwise having units in front to tank while they pelt at a distance. Calling them bad because of this scenario is like saying Siege tanks are shit after placing them in an open field and they get overrun by zerglings.

[@WaterCrane]

@@Late0NightPC In the mission, you don't have access to the upgrades just yet, and it's better to just do the same thing with marines. Granted, once you do get the Goliath's upgrades, they really do hold their own quite nicely, especially if they have a buffer in front of them.

[@SphincterOfDoom]

It probably doesn't recommend you just a+move them

[@Cylindryk]

Wow, that BC, being one hit away from destruction...

[@quickdraw6893]

Infested Terrans are insane so I was honestly betting on that win, but I think at that level of difference it really was a coinflip gamble

[@Purylock]

Aren't goliaths famous for their great anti-air atack range? Yet they struggle to atack from the 2nd row... Hmmm, maybe Tya just hates them and weakens them on purpose?..

[@gemsofsteel3648]

With that simple AI it doesn't really matter, they are just blocked by the front row anyway. You would need to either walk in or kite back to utilize that range properly.

[@espurr3496]

That would be dumb like who cares

[@amirh6712]

​@@gemsofsteel3648 What do you mean it doesn't matter? With their upgrade, they have almost the same range as Thors, so the ones in the back rows can attack instead of just derping around

[@horizonbravov2188]

She never gives units their perspective upgrades like the golaith the other upgrade was to increase their range by alot

[@Win32error854]

They don’t have the upgrade listed. Probably too boring of a fight with it.

[@ultimatepotato1155]

Poor goliaths, always getting bullied

[@alejandronieto4212]

Seripusly, they gotta win SOME TIME!

[@ElkaPME]

2/2 I accidentally saw the 1st 2 rounds' results while I jumped in late, but I'll analyze those 2 anyway Goliaths still receiving no love, I see. Their lack of Ares range upgrade really do hurt them so much, especially when Void Rays pick them off left and right. While Infested Terrans deal against Battlecruisers better than your standard Marine, however they still fall off significantly in dps once their numbers dwindle quickly, just like your standard Marine. Zealots are just so tanky for a basic infantry, this allowed them to withstand Ultralisks better than the other 2 of their respective races who are squishy enough for them to be easily picked off. Reapers my beloved ❤️ Just like my previous analyses, their massed grenades create so much disruption against most opposition and have proven that Ghosts are no exception.

[@phattank5403]

See i think the grenades basically give the ghosts blink, putting the wounded ones in bacl

[@momom6197]

@@phattank5403 The big difference with blink is that because of the grenades, the ghosts lose time flying in the air during which they can still be attacked. This makes a huge difference when they're repeatedly bounced back.

[@vladimiralexanderlagos1477]

I always expect reapers to be easily wiped out in these matchups and they somehow keep managing to get on top. It is crazy how reaper dps can stack when mass produced considering how low their single attack is.

[@IntegralKing]

that and the grenades stop half the opposition from fighting. that's what perfect micro looks like lol

[@legionofpie]

Someone should have given those poor zealots some better weapons!

[@joshstraub6972]

true, poor z boys

[@crescentmoon2806]

Or running boots

[@Naofumi-Iwatani]

Least there's more dragoons about now

[@bobbyferg9173]

@@Naofumi-Iwatani Or even better Immortals so that the Ultralisks would be the ones getting slaughtered in mass

[@csmlegend3704]

seeing zealots like zerglings makes me feel bad for the ultralisks

[@user-ow2ln3pw7d]

Idea for future video having 1 round featuring Goliaths : fully upgraded Goliaths (with multitarget and range) vs air/ground groups, like roach+muta or stalker+Fenix ...Also curious about Liberators( like 50 of them) vs Goliaths (125) both full upgraded

[@thecommentguy9380]

another day of goliaths biting the dust

[@chrishubbard64]

Void rays are one of my favorite campaign units. I love the bouncy ray with a large fleet as suddenly everything is getting ray gunned down

[@Trades46]

Remember when Brood War Goaliths were good?

[@100nitrog2]

I downloaded the remastered Starcraft+Brood War after I finally finished Starcraft II. Having Goliaths actually be worth building was a crazy blast from the past.

[@elonwhatever]

Will Goliath win vs [Anything]? Nope, nope it won't

[@dakotaherweg3495]

This is how it felt when playing into the jungle

[@poodlescone9700]

The infested terrans were free units. Even if they all died against the battle cruisers, they still won.

[@brianlammers9283]

Me: "My Money's on the Void Rays...." *Void Rays Win.* Void Ray: "ALWAYS bet on The Void!"

[@mulchas.7874]

For the first time, i guessed right all 4 times.

[@asterpw]

Pre Guess: Void Rays, BCs, Ultras, Reapers EDIT: 3/4 Damn zealots

[@khangvouc3024]

Same yo

[@shawnruby7011]

1/4 Really thought numbers were with goliaths. Battlecruisers was a hunch but I didn't think it'd be that close more like 3 bc's left. I chose ultras but that was a ridiculous matchup. I really thought the mines would work against the reapers and it did for a bit so I wonder if the amount of them just prevented their shooting enough to make the bounceback and range of ghosts to be net zero.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

The ghosts were shooting a lot, but it still takes 3 ghost attacks to kill a reaper, and the reaper regen could make it worse. While the ghosts took massive damage from the grenades, as each reaper attack does 2x4 damage while grenade does 5.

[@aliasn4088]

Seen goliaths. Voted against goliaths.

[@jarrakul]

I really do wish ground units would move under the air units in these matchups. Obviously that'd make it less of a 1A, but so does using spells, and it feels like ground units fighting air are getting a huge disadvantage they almost never do in actual play.

[@MrSang-py3dd]

Reapers vs Ghosts -the battle of Schizos.

[@tunch90]

Bel’shir vietnam flashbacks intensify

[@OMIMreacts]

2/4 1 - goliaths, idk but they are introduced in the campaign as a voidray counter so they surely must win, right? 2 - BC, one bc should surely take out 5 infested terrans I think 3 - Zealots, but I don't know maybe they'll get slaughtered by spash damage 4 - Does reaper ability cancel snipe? if so, then reapers. if it doesn't, then ghosts What are the Infested Terrans attacks? are they knew? i knew them as marines?

[@Weigazod]

The Goliath fight is the sole reason why Goliath needs the range upgrade. These Goliaths only have the Multi-Lock Weapons System (only Goliath to attack air and ground at the same time). They needs Ares-Class Targeting System (+3 range air attack) to deal with lots of air.

[@Xenobears]

Woo! Finally went 4/4! Though the first two were way closer than I thought they’d be!

[@GradeAMolvanian]

Formation means a ton. If the goliaths had been spread in a longer line at the start they'd have done better. If the Infested Terrains had been arranged into a narrower frontage at the start they'd have done worse.

[@dragonblue2989]

1/4 I did very bad lol. I thought goliath's movespeed would carry the fight... For ultralisk I thought 2 damage zealot would be useless. And finnaly for ghost was pure counter. Still reapers showed me what's "pain" means lel...

[@Vakaria-plays]

The first one it was kind of ironic how the goliaths number became a disadvantage, too many had to spend time moving around its fellows to be able to shoot, something i have noticed in several of these videos with all kind of units sometimes gives an unfair advantage, if the void rays had been standing right on top of the Goliaths before both teams would be allowed to open fire, the goliaths would have won big time lol.

[@SerLagsalot]

4/5. I bwt on the Ultras under the assumption a match so massively uneaven would be more memey than anything

[@GoGoGoTV1]

What is the blue and red number below the costs for the units?

[@dimitarlinov2393]

Their resource cost in the Direct strike arcade mode. These videos being a sandbox version of that.

[@RainAngel111]

Goddamn. Even though the ultralisks lost, that was really impressive. I wonder how many kills their MVP got. I always felt in gameplay like the ultralisks were a little underpowered considering their cost.

[@mojorochi]

2:10 Aru nal'adan BRRRRR!

[@nonidtuhnow4924]

Goliath should have stepped in to attack all at once and not walk around

[@Xenotric]

Would love to see the Goliath Vs voids again with the range upgrade, it turns it into quite the stomp for the Goliath's against the voids

[@davidalaniz5637]

I really think they should have left goliaths in and had the cyclone lock on ability be for the goliath's rockets to lock onto a ground/air target at that range for more dmg.

[@codonbyte]

When fighting ground units vs air units, you absolutely MUST stutter-step the ground units directly under the air units! Otherwise, only the front row of ground units will be firing. That's why the goliaths always lose. Also, did you forget goliath range? Goliaths without range are useless..

[@deathknightrevan]

I knew the zealots would be the ultralisks, I thought the ultras might have a chance since the zealots had no upgrades but I also felt there were just too many of them and was right

[@woadblue]

It'd be cool to see a comparison between someone microing the armies vs this a-movement. For example if all those goliaths moved into range from the beginning it may have ended differently. Just saying. These are rather entertaining.

[@Duran762]

Sc broodwar goliaths are built different

[@blueplayer6197]

3/4, void rays always win, free guess. BCs can only beat marine and marine-like things - so that was easy Ultras is where I got it wrong, figured 3/3 vs 0 would be enough, but honestly taking down as many as they did was impressive enough. Ghosts vs Reapers - splash almost always wins and the resources were close so I chose the splash side.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

Void rays may have lost if goliaths had the range upgrade. Agreed on the others, though the BC do win vs other things too.

[@zvirbulis29hf]

Please make video battle sc1 vs sc2 units

[@edgarskarklins5722]

You should've moved Goliaths further under the Void Rays, so more of them could've attacked simultaneously, then they would've won I believe.

[@thorveim1174]

4/4 -goliaths are good at anti armor air, but so are the void rays.. and rays have the advantage of stacking on top of eatother (else I feel the goliaths would win) -infested terrans don't deal too well with armor (though DAMN that was close) -thats way too many zealots for even fully upgraded ulltras to handle -ghosts don't ahve any special bonus against reapers, numbers got them

[@Weigazod]

Who would win? 25 space capital ships or 125 unpaid volunteers?

[@perrycarters3113]

4/4 For half a second, I almost believed the Goliath was gonna pull off an upset but the Void Ray's just too strong. Why don''t you give Goliaths the ARES range upgrade? Holy shit that was close. I always forget the Infested Terran does mad damage to air. Jesus those Ultras actually came close to winning. I forgot how strong Chitinous Plating is against multi-attack units. Yeah. Ghosts are good, but that's just too many Reapers.

[@riolufistofmight]

3/4 The zealots baaarely managed to squeeze it out, same with the BCs but I voted the other way

[@АлександрИванов-п5к1я]

How come infested marines are that strong?

[@cliffwood7386]

1. I learned last time to never bet on Goliaths, Void Rays all the way. Result: Didn't even consider the voids would stack up and all shoot at once, even bigger advantage than I thought. 2. Don't really know much about how IT perform, but I think that since Yamato isn't really going to help much that they'll get it. IT Result: Dang, super close but not quite. 3. This is basically what Ultras were designed for, hopefully the numbers advantage won't be too much. Results: Too many zealots. Should've known that the surround was too much. 4. Reapers have the DPS I think. Result: Indeed they did! 2/4, not great, not terrible

[@shawnruby7011]

The surround meant little there or it was a given. It was their life that was the deciding point. The ultras could never dig a hole through them.

[@JoseFrituz]

that was a bit too many zealots

[@joshoconnor9666]

NoOoOo.... My goliaths.... Also a little pissed off about the ghosts vs reaper match. Reapers can get bent.

[@Moze9116899]

4/4, the BC vs marine fight was close, too close.

[@f.b.l.9813]

Goliaths used to be amazing AA units in SC1, what the heck did they do to it in SC2?

[@leredrasscul]

Please show one probe vs one Odin, please

[@travisdunlap4526]

Yeah the Zealots "won", but losing 85k against 5k....that's about as pyrrhic a victory as it gets!

[@Ulti_H]

brood war players be like "goliath for anti air"

[@polarised2720]

2/4 It seems that air units scale much better than non-splash ground units in a massive fight

[@dimitarlinov2393]

These were only half upgraded goliaths, but yeah, this game has very little ground anti-air splash in Versus.

[@DrownedInExile]

Crappy positioning by the Goliaths. They might have done better if they kept advancing, so more of them would be in a position to fire.

[@taelim6599]

Damn. Only 1/4. The only one I got right was the reapers.

[@OrihalconDE]

Air units always have advantages since they can stack onto each other without collision.

[@caelestigladii]

Until an aoe salvo destroys them in 1 hit.

[@OrihalconDE]

@@caelestigladii maybe And what was this fight of reaper against ghosts? Reapers used their ability with throwing their bombs but ghost didn't activate their sniper skill? Cheating.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

@@OrihalconDE you do realize that snipe breaks on damage/knockback, right?

[@100nitrog2]

@@OrihalconDE Ghosts wouldn't have had the opportunity to use Snipe, and even if they got one off, it wouldn't be a OHK or any faster than the 3 hits it takes to kill a Reaper.

[@caelestigladii]

@@OrihalconDE Look for mass liberator vs mass void rays as an example.

[@ObliviousNaga]

It always surprises me when reapers win. It's a good surprise

[@alexandreblanc9294]

2/4... but just one more infested terran and it would be different...

[@GamerMcBaggin]

I thought goliaths would have longer range

[@aarondrivesabus]

3/4. Bullshit, didn't know the BC's wouldn't yamato, I'm pleb

[@Xenotric]

Yamato Vs infested probably less damage than just shooting due to the massive overkill

[@aarondrivesabus]

@@Xenotric it is, that's why i thought infested would win cos bc would overkill on them with yamato and waste dps

[@Xenotric]

@@aarondrivesabus ah fair

[@dimitarlinov2393]

They only yamato vs higher hp targets. Not sure what the number is, maybe 100 or 150 hp.

[@Erpan_1140_Bola_Amigo]

how much damage did that ghost do?

[@efrainef1823]

wow good video (damn zealots)

[@light1914]

infested terrans were definitely broken

[@kerviuskuroshiba5120]

Goliaths walking in formation? Inaccurate! Totally Biased Void Ray video! XDDD Have fun :D

[@grenzviel4480]

shoulda disabled snipes on the ghosts. They end up not attacking because of sniping

[@celrak7667]

immortels never dies

[@1dustbranch111]

hmm. I think the u.i. bugged, I didn't see infested terrans costs. 🌝

[@gaborsimon3299]

Who is going to win, Void ray or.. Void ray.. that it.

[@daipivka5]

please show the HP of the last unit )

[@davidjeanmichel8358]

infested terran are way stronger than what i was thinking

[@King_Nipper]

3/4 Why do I always think Goliaths stand a chance...

[@dimitarlinov2393]

They would have with the range upgrade, +3 range is a lot.

[@NameName2.0]

Good to know void rays are just bettet than goliath

[@trassage]

3\4 Goliaths vss Voids. Goliaths always lose and Voids always win so I voted for the Voids. Infested vs BCs. Cattlebruisers never lose, so I chose BCs but god that was close. Zealots vs Ultras. I always want the Zerg to win and I REALLY wanted to see 200 kills on an ultra but alas. Reapers vs Ghosts. No one can beat the jumping dance of death.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

If they had the range upgrades, goliaths would have had a chance.

[@Ikkon77]

Goliaths are made of paper

[@spawnmedia2461]

Smaller more realistic army sizes pls. Huge clumps of units skew the results

[@dimitarlinov2393]

That's the whole point XD, massive battles. If you mean abou the zealots, it was meant to be a slaughter while they slowly reduced the ultra hp.

[@quantgeekery6358]

Infested Terrans can punch

[@JitojiOMG]

3/4 overestimated ghost

[@iKonks]

No “genelupens” = no win

[@zmangkrd5312]

Those infested Terrans were broken af. Glad they're out of multiplayer.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

Actually where do they come from? They aren't in the coop missions. Are they a spawn from the stukov hero unit?

[@SaithMasu12]

@@dimitarlinov2393 they used to be a unit infestors could spawn.

[@zidaryn]

Not exactly a fair fight for the ghosts. They would never be used straight up like that. Gotta at least cloak or snipe with them.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

In what world do ghosts have enough time to channel a snipe? It breaks on damage, let alone knockback from the grenades. Also cloak is meaningless, it either guarantees one side loses with 0 losses, or is negated by detection. Both sides are terran, you can assume they have energy for multiple scans.

[@scp-scp--ev8eh]

1/4, im really bad at this

[@tonyfry2693]

Can you add more stats. Health, armor, attack, and attack rate. Would be neat to see the difference.

[@guibuni6926]

Day 6 asking for WoL Immortals vs LotV immortals

[@dimitarlinov2393]

WoL immortals when in equal numbers. (Assuming no targeting weirdness) At 0/0 WoL immortals die in 10 attacks. LotV die in 9. At 1/1 and 2/2, WoL die in 9, LotV in 8. At 3/3, Wol die in 9, LotV in 7. Still have to be careful with barrier timing out and WoL shields regen. On second though, when the WoL immortal has 20 shield, does it still block all the damage?

[@platypusguineapig]

Void ray is super op

[@barondiamondo6676]

4/4, kinda easy. Goliaths vs void rays? Void rays, one of the powerful anti armor unit in game, really. Battlecrusier just "go yamato or not", when there not fire it, i know the are win, barely, but win. Zealot = charge = bullshit crazy, not sc1 zealot, but still powerful. Reaper just not specialist, not suffer from snite and emp = only low soeed rifle shooting, not work.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

Goliath is also a powerful anti-arnored-air unit, they just lacked the range upgrade, else they "might" have won.

[@maxpresto]

4 for 4 lets gooooo

[@MrHappyface198]

im still upset at how shit goliaths are in sc2

[@juancar3551]

sinceramente en brood war los goliats los misiles sonaban mejor tenían más alcance mas vida y los misiles aéreos el diseño era mejor y hacían daño de área ahora estos goliats de starcraft 2 son una basura

[@jorvananggara9191]

1/4 this time XD